Author Topic: Couatl not running **FIXED**  (Read 18883 times)

zoran

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Couatl not running **FIXED**
« on: May 05, 2014, 06:36:16 pm »
Hi

Couatl will not run when I select an FSDT airport and the airports wont load, there is also no couatl in the add on mgr and the pan and zoom functions are buggy

However when I select a default airport then Couatl will run and also appear in the add on menu and zoom and pan work fine

Stand alone mgr and couatl are updated with AV TURNED OFF

very confused here.


« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 10:54:23 am by virtuali »

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 06:54:41 pm »
 Try to enable logging in the "Troubleshooting" section of the "GSX - Settings" menu, and see if there's a Couatl.err file in the %APPDATA%\Virtuali folder after you go to an FSDT airport. Post that file, and the Couatl.LOG too.

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 10:38:22 pm »
How can I upload? it wont recognize the file in attachments and there are more than 2000 words to paste here so it wont let me

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 12:31:47 am »
it wont recognize the file in attachments

Just paste the last 5-6 lines.

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 12:55:40 am »
okay I loaded klax but of course Couatl vanished from the addon menu within a few seconds so I then had restart the sim and go to a default airport to get Couatl to show.

I then ran trouble shooter

there is no error file in the folder



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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 01:49:51 am »
okay I loaded klax but of course Couatl vanished from the addon menu within a few seconds so I then had restart the sim and go to a default airport to get Couatl to show.

Try to trash your preferences, by removing the following file:

%APPDATA%\Virtuali\Couatladdons.ini

Then reinstall GSX

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 02:14:50 am »
I did that but the problem is the same , no couatl

couatl shows up for a few seconds in the add on menu before vanishing.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 02:21:02 am by zoran »

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2014, 10:35:51 am »
It took many lost hours trouble shooting to fix the problem although I cant say what caused it. 100% was not my AV as that was off the whole time. I ended up closing all of the background programs running in the task bar and re launched and got Couatl back again.

I read a LOT of simmers are having this problem of couatl being hijacked by something other than the AV. Its a shame we have to lose days of simming because couatl is so vulnerable.

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Re: Couatl not running
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2014, 01:16:38 pm »
I ended up closing all of the background programs running in the task bar and re launched and got Couatl back again.

So, it was caused by one of them. There are some that we know of ( some Lenovo software, the Trillian messenger, the API monitoring option of the ATI Tray tools, some audio drivers from Razer ), but I cannot exclude there might be others we don't know of.

You could find which one was, if you closed your running programs one by one, until you find the offending one. Most of the time, you might not have to disable the whole program, but just some options, usually related to system monitoring.

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I read a LOT of simmers are having this problem of couatl being hijacked by something other than the AV. Its a shame we have to lose days of simming because couatl is so vulnerable.

It's not couatl that is vulnerable, it's the other products you have that are too aggressive, and are a potential threat to your system security. And a lot of simmers, know very well that sim runs way better if you turn off all the process that are not needed.

There are even utilities, like this one:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/alacritypc/

That stops all the resident programs before running a game, for the precise reason that most complex games (and FSX surely is) WILL require to do this, and you shouldn't expect you can stuff your system with unnecessary stuff and still get the same performances and compatibility.

The very existence of such utilities, is proof enough the problem is real, and it's not restricted to our software.

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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2014, 06:13:39 pm »
Back again unfortunatley

5 flights went okay but still not perfect for example those flights would load the jetways and then the buildings would appear a few seconds later, thats not normal for sure.

 I have not made any changes to my sim. Again I disabled all background task bar programs but coutal will only load for 2 seconds before vanishing from the add on menu

so Im back to $120 worth of pretty jetways again. ::)

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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2014, 06:15:44 pm »
5 flights went okay but still not perfect for example those flights would load the jetways and then the buildings would appear a few seconds later, thats not normal for sure.

Yes, it's normal, and it always has been like that.

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I have not made any changes to my sim. Again I disabled all background task bar programs but coutal will only load for 2 seconds before vanishing from the add on menu

I'm sorry, but you said yourself it DID work, after you quit some background program. So, it's obvious the offending program is still running.

Are you able to see the Couatl menu if you start a flight on a default airport ?

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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2014, 06:20:13 pm »


yes I can see it in default

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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2014, 06:22:08 pm »
Ok, not while you are at the default airport, enable logging in the "Troubleshooting" section of the "GSX settings", under the Couatl menu, then exit from FSX, start at an FSDT airport and verify the menu disappears, then exit from FSX and post your Couatl.LOG found under %APPDATA%\Virtuali

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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2014, 06:50:02 pm »
Its getting late so I will leave it here and come back tomorrow, cheers
 
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Re: Couatl not running **SOLVED**
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2014, 11:21:41 pm »
Is there something else in the LOG file ?