CTD after 3.7.4 update related to AI (MSFS2020)

[DownedAviator]

I will get back to you on this later.

Right now I have to take my wife to hospital for her cancer and post-operative knee replacement surgery treatment. So, priorities...

[capt_pero]

I will try the new Version later on.

You are using MSFS2024 right? This problem might be related to 2020 only - I suppose.

[virtuali]

You are using MSFS2024 right? This problem might be related to 2020 only - I suppose.

Yes, of course I'm trying with MSFS 2024 first, because switching sim it's another variable I need to introduce progressively. I'll test with 2020, of course.

[Mark823]

After installing the beta updater, MSFS 2020 no longer CTDs. I tried twice to reproduce the issue, but everything continues to work.

Only tried with FSHud

[virtuali]

After installing the beta updater, MSFS 2020 no longer CTDs. I tried twice to reproduce the issue, but everything continues to work.

That's encouraging, we updated to the latest QLM libraries and fixed a couple of .NET issue that in theory should only have affected the couatl engine itself (possible crashing in flight or when closing the sim, but not causing the sim to crash), at least that was what was reported by users in the other thread about the clr.dll crashes.

And yes, I tested MSFS 2020 now under a similar situation ( Fenix at default EDDF with FSLTL injection ), no issues as well:

https://youtu.be/c3-KqUVEOgQ

[capt_pero]

I tested the updated version (from BOX) and CTD again after starting AIG Traffic injection.

1) Start MSFS 2020
2) Load at Gate 15 in EPWA
3) Not requesting GSX services
4) Start AIG Traffic Injection > CTD

Event log:

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Application: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException
   at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExceptionForHRInternal(Int32, IntPtr)
   at Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect.SimConnect.AICreateParkedATCAircraft(System.String, System.String, System.String, System.Enum)
   at AIGTech.Connector.Interface.MSFS.SimConnect_MSFS+<>c__DisplayClass55_0.<AICreateParkedATCAircraft>b__0()

Exception Info: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethod(System.Object, System.Object[], System.Signature, Boolean)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.UnsafeInvokeInternal(System.Object, System.Object[], System.Object[])
   at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(System.Object[])
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl()
   at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.CallbackWrapper(System.Object)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
   at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.Run(MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
   at AIGTech.TrafficController.App.Main()

And second:

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Fehlerhafter Anwendungsname: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe, Version: 0.9.4.3, Zeitstempel: 0xf7b36fbc
Fehlerhafter Modulname: KERNELBASE.dll, Version: 10.0.26100.7462, Zeitstempel: 0xe9f9d656
Ausnahmecode: 0xe0434352
Fehleroffset: 0x00000000000c782a
Fehlerhafte Prozess-ID: 0x2F24
Fehlerhafte Anwendungsstartzeit: 0x1DC80999A3F1C03
Fehlerhafter Anwendungspfad: M:\Tools\AIG_TrafficController\AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
Fehlerhafter Modulpfad: C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Berichts-ID: f3c7a2af-adc6-4d08-8f38-d5d1463d0cc1
Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:
Fehlerhafte paketbezogene Anwendungs-ID:


[virtuali]

I tested the updated version (from BOX) and CTD again after starting AIG Traffic injection.

Considering the last post from Mark823 (using FSHud) reporting no CTDs with the Beta update, in addition to my further testing with MSFS 2020 (using FSLTL), that would suggest that not all AI injections are the same. Or maybe not all AI models sets are the same.

The issue seems very complex because we are getting conflicting reports:

- The main thing that changed from 3.7.3 to 3.7.4 was the increase in LOD quality, to reduce visual pop-ups. This clearly must have some cost, even if I wouldn't expect a crash, unless you are really short on memory, which wasn't the case according to other user that seems to have plenty of RAM/VRAM available.

- But if it was a problem of changed objects LODs, it couldn't possibly be fixed with an updated couatl engine, as Mark823 reported, and 3.7.3 also had the same couatl engine as 3.7.4, yet users are saying the issue started with 3.7.4.

That is without saying I'm still unable to replicate ANY CTD, with any simulator, so I can only rely on users reports.

[capt_pero]

I did FPS monitoring tests. Please find the results

[virtuali]

This log is quite telling:

Application: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException
   at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExceptionForHRInternal(Int32, IntPtr)
   at Microsoft.FlightSimulator.SimConnect.SimConnect.AICreateParkedATCAircraft(System.String, System.String, System.String, System.Enum)
   at AIGTech.Connector.Interface.MSFS.SimConnect_MSFS+<>c__DisplayClass55_0.<AICreateParkedATCAircraft>b__0()

The AIG traffic controller app crashed when it tried to create an AI airplane. Maybe it hit the in-famous max Simobjects limit, which is known to not only break Simconnect, but CAN cause the sim to crash.

However, the NUMBER of Simobjects created by GSX is absolutely unchanged in version 3.7.4 compared to 3.7.3 and nothing changed in the way they are created or when.

The only change in 3.7.4 was the LOD levels but again, it this was the real cause, it couldn't possibly be fixed with an updated GSX, as reported by Mark823, who said his crashes stopped with the Beta update and of course both my latest tests for which I posted videos were made with it as well.

In addition to that, if the LOD levels were a problem, it should be visible as a significant increase in RAM/VRAM allocation when GSX is started (because we are creating objects that are likely taking more memory than before, since their better LOD levels enter in view a bit earlier now), which according to your report, doesn't seem to happen.

[virtuali]

I did FPS monitoring tests. Please find the results

Please explain where and when the CTD happened: after some time ? Doing something ?

[capt_pero]

I did FPS monitoring tests. Please find the results

Please explain where and when the CTD happened: after some time ? Doing something ?

Immediatly after AIG is injecting aircrafts.

[capt_pero]

I tested in FAOR and moved to EPWA with Teleport. After pressing "Select airport" in Teleport GSX crashed with report:

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[00:00:00.031] Running in mode: Microsoft Flight Simulator
[00:00:00.047] Python 3.7.9 Stackless 3.7 (tags/v3.7.9-slp-dirty:8ad319a856, May 22 2021, 22:48:12) [MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)]
[00:00:00.047] wxPython 4.2.0
[00:00:00.063] Couatl v5.0 (build 6226)
[00:00:00.063] log started on Thu Jan  8 13:51:35 2026
[00:00:00.063]
[00:00:00.063] connecting to SimConnect...
[00:01:01.391] connected to SimConnect after 13 attempts
[00:01:01.516] connected to bglmanx
[00:01:01.516] RunningMode::pathToInstalledPackages M:\XboxGames\Microsoft Flight Simulator
[00:01:01.516] Loading addons
[00:01:01.516] Loading addon common
[00:01:01.656] Addon common loaded
[00:01:01.656] Loading addon LiveUpdate
[00:01:01.656] Addon LiveUpdate loaded
[00:01:01.656] requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
[00:01:10.406] Simulator version: 11.0.282174.999
[00:01:12.188] bglmanx list contains 33 AddOn(s)
[00:01:12.188] Loading addon LFSB
[00:01:12.360] Addon LFSB loaded
[00:01:12.360] Loading addon GSX
[00:01:12.422] Current sim directory is M:/Tools/Addon Manager/couatl64
[00:01:13.156] Addon GSX loaded
[00:01:13.156] Loading addon GSX.airports.kiah_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.172] Addon GSX.airports.kiah_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.172] Loading addon KIAH2
[00:01:13.172] Addon KIAH2 loaded
[00:01:13.172] Loading addon GSX.airports.kord_v2_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.188] Addon GSX.airports.kord_v2_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.188] Loading addon GSX.airports.ksdf_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.188] Addon GSX.airports.ksdf_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.188] Loading addon GSX.airports.lszh_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.188] Addon GSX.airports.lszh_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.188] Loading addon GSX.airports.cyvr_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.203] Addon GSX.airports.cyvr_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.203] Loading addon GSX.airports.keyw_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.203] Addon GSX.airports.keyw_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.203] Loading addon GSX.airports.kclt_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.203] Addon GSX.airports.kclt_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.203] Loading addon GSX.airports.lfeq_fsdt_MSFS
[00:01:13.219] Addon GSX.airports.lfeq_fsdt_MSFS loaded
[00:01:13.219] Starting system monitors
[00:01:13.219] [KIAH2] is active
[00:01:51.438] Main Menu loaded
[00:01:51.985] Slew mode False
[00:01:55.828] Common onAppStart
[00:01:55.828] createDefaultContainer
[00:01:55.828] Current locale is German_Germany.1252
[00:01:55.828] Initializing audio...
[00:01:55.828] Available devices:
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on Lautsprecher (Realtek USB Audio)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on Cabin Speaker (2- USB Audio Device)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on GSX Speaker (3- USB Audio Device)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on ATC Ausgang (VB-Audio Cable B)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on MIP Speaker (Sound Blaster Play! 2)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on CP Headset (3- Sound Blaster Play! 2)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on Realtek Digital Output (Realtek USB Audio)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on ATC Eingang (VB-Audio Cable A)
[00:01:55.828]   OpenAL Soft on FO Headset (2- Sound Blaster Play! 2)
[00:01:55.844] Created OpenAL device: OpenAL Soft on ATC Ausgang (VB-Audio Cable B)
[00:01:55.844]
[00:01:55.860] Device info:
[00:01:55.860] Major version: 1
[00:01:55.860] Minor version: 1
[00:01:55.860] Frequency: 48000
[00:01:55.860] Refresh: 50
[00:01:55.860] Sync: 0
[00:01:55.860] Mono sources: 255
[00:01:55.860] Stereo sources: 1
[00:01:55.860] Extensions: ALC_ENUMERATE_ALL_EXT ALC_ENUMERATION_EXT ALC_EXT_CAPTURE ALC_EXT_DEDICATED ALC_EXT_disconnect ALC_EXT_EFX ALC_EXT_thread_local_context ALC_SOFT_device_clock ALC_SOFT_HRTF ALC_SOFT_loopback ALC_SOFT_loopback_bformat ALC_SOFT_output_limiter ALC_SOFT_output_mode ALC_SOFT_pause_device ALC_SOFT_reopen_device
[00:01:55.860]
[00:01:55.860] Context info:
[00:01:55.860] Vendor: OpenAL Community
[00:01:55.860] Version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.23.1
[00:01:55.860] Renderer: OpenAL Soft
[00:01:55.860] Extensions: EAX EAX2.0 EAX3.0 EAX4.0 EAX5.0 EAX-RAM AL_EXT_ALAW AL_EXT_BFORMAT AL_EXT_DOUBLE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE AL_EXT_FLOAT32 AL_EXT_IMA4 AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_MULAW AL_EXT_MULAW_BFORMAT AL_EXT_MULAW_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_source_distance_model AL_EXT_SOURCE_RADIUS AL_EXT_STATIC_BUFFER AL_EXT_STEREO_ANGLES AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_SOFT_bformat_ex AL_SOFTX_bformat_hoa AL_SOFT_block_alignment AL_SOFT_buffer_length_query AL_SOFT_callback_buffer AL_SOFTX_convolution_reverb AL_SOFT_deferred_updates AL_SOFT_direct_channels AL_SOFT_direct_channels_remix AL_SOFT_effect_target AL_SOFT_events AL_SOFT_gain_clamp_ex AL_SOFTX_hold_on_disconnect AL_SOFT_loop_points AL_SOFTX_map_buffer AL_SOFT_MSADPCM AL_SOFT_source_latency AL_SOFT_source_length AL_SOFT_source_resampler AL_SOFT_source_spatialize AL_SOFT_source_start_delay AL_SOFT_UHJ AL_SOFT_UHJ_ex
[00:01:55.860]
[00:01:55.860] Using EFX 1.0 extension, with 4 auxiliary send(s)
[00:01:55.860] Using EAX reverb
[00:01:55.860] Created OpenAL device: OpenAL Soft on Cabin Speaker (2- USB Audio Device)
[00:01:55.860]
[00:01:55.875] Device info:
[00:01:55.875] Major version: 1
[00:01:55.875] Minor version: 1
[00:01:55.875] Frequency: 48000
[00:01:55.875] Refresh: 50
[00:01:55.875] Sync: 0
[00:01:55.875] Mono sources: 255
[00:01:55.875] Stereo sources: 1
[00:01:55.875] Extensions: ALC_ENUMERATE_ALL_EXT ALC_ENUMERATION_EXT ALC_EXT_CAPTURE ALC_EXT_DEDICATED ALC_EXT_disconnect ALC_EXT_EFX ALC_EXT_thread_local_context ALC_SOFT_device_clock ALC_SOFT_HRTF ALC_SOFT_loopback ALC_SOFT_loopback_bformat ALC_SOFT_output_limiter ALC_SOFT_output_mode ALC_SOFT_pause_device ALC_SOFT_reopen_device
[00:01:55.875]
[00:01:55.875] Context info:
[00:01:55.875] Vendor: OpenAL Community
[00:01:55.875] Version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.23.1
[00:01:55.875] Renderer: OpenAL Soft
[00:01:55.875] Extensions: EAX EAX2.0 EAX3.0 EAX4.0 EAX5.0 EAX-RAM AL_EXT_ALAW AL_EXT_BFORMAT AL_EXT_DOUBLE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE AL_EXT_FLOAT32 AL_EXT_IMA4 AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_MULAW AL_EXT_MULAW_BFORMAT AL_EXT_MULAW_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_source_distance_model AL_EXT_SOURCE_RADIUS AL_EXT_STATIC_BUFFER AL_EXT_STEREO_ANGLES AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_SOFT_bformat_ex AL_SOFTX_bformat_hoa AL_SOFT_block_alignment AL_SOFT_buffer_length_query AL_SOFT_callback_buffer AL_SOFTX_convolution_reverb AL_SOFT_deferred_updates AL_SOFT_direct_channels AL_SOFT_direct_channels_remix AL_SOFT_effect_target AL_SOFT_events AL_SOFT_gain_clamp_ex AL_SOFTX_hold_on_disconnect AL_SOFT_loop_points AL_SOFTX_map_buffer AL_SOFT_MSADPCM AL_SOFT_source_latency AL_SOFT_source_length AL_SOFT_source_resampler AL_SOFT_source_spatialize AL_SOFT_source_start_delay AL_SOFT_UHJ AL_SOFT_UHJ_ex
[00:01:55.875]
[00:01:55.875] Using EFX 1.0 extension, with 4 auxiliary send(s)
[00:01:55.875] Using EAX reverb
[00:01:55.875] Created OpenAL device: OpenAL Soft on Lautsprecher (Realtek USB Audio)
[00:01:55.875]
[00:01:55.906] Device info:
[00:01:55.906] Major version: 1
[00:01:55.906] Minor version: 1
[00:01:55.906] Frequency: 48000
[00:01:55.906] Refresh: 50
[00:01:55.906] Sync: 0
[00:01:55.906] Mono sources: 255
[00:01:55.906] Stereo sources: 1
[00:01:55.906] Extensions: ALC_ENUMERATE_ALL_EXT ALC_ENUMERATION_EXT ALC_EXT_CAPTURE ALC_EXT_DEDICATED ALC_EXT_disconnect ALC_EXT_EFX ALC_EXT_thread_local_context ALC_SOFT_device_clock ALC_SOFT_HRTF ALC_SOFT_loopback ALC_SOFT_loopback_bformat ALC_SOFT_output_limiter ALC_SOFT_output_mode ALC_SOFT_pause_device ALC_SOFT_reopen_device
[00:01:55.906]
[00:01:55.906] Context info:
[00:01:55.906] Vendor: OpenAL Community
[00:01:55.906] Version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.23.1
[00:01:55.906] Renderer: OpenAL Soft
[00:01:55.906] Extensions: EAX EAX2.0 EAX3.0 EAX4.0 EAX5.0 EAX-RAM AL_EXT_ALAW AL_EXT_BFORMAT AL_EXT_DOUBLE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE AL_EXT_FLOAT32 AL_EXT_IMA4 AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_MULAW AL_EXT_MULAW_BFORMAT AL_EXT_MULAW_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_source_distance_model AL_EXT_SOURCE_RADIUS AL_EXT_STATIC_BUFFER AL_EXT_STEREO_ANGLES AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_SOFT_bformat_ex AL_SOFTX_bformat_hoa AL_SOFT_block_alignment AL_SOFT_buffer_length_query AL_SOFT_callback_buffer AL_SOFTX_convolution_reverb AL_SOFT_deferred_updates AL_SOFT_direct_channels AL_SOFT_direct_channels_remix AL_SOFT_effect_target AL_SOFT_events AL_SOFT_gain_clamp_ex AL_SOFTX_hold_on_disconnect AL_SOFT_loop_points AL_SOFTX_map_buffer AL_SOFT_MSADPCM AL_SOFT_source_latency AL_SOFT_source_length AL_SOFT_source_resampler AL_SOFT_source_spatialize AL_SOFT_source_start_delay AL_SOFT_UHJ AL_SOFT_UHJ_ex
[00:01:55.906]
[00:01:55.906] Using EFX 1.0 extension, with 4 auxiliary send(s)
[00:01:55.906] Using EAX reverb
[00:01:55.906] resetVars() with Simconnect
[00:01:55.906] GSX is starting
[00:01:55.906] [GSX] Simulator version is 11.0.282174.999
[00:01:55.906] isPBRAvailable returned  False
[00:01:55.906] isRTTAvailable returned  False
[00:01:55.906] GetSimObjectsFolder() returned  M:\Tools\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-pro/SimObjects
[00:01:55.906] GetAdditionalSimObjectsFolder() returned  M:\Tools\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-world-of-jetways/SimObjects
[00:01:55.906] GetAdditionalSimObjectsFolderV5() returned 
[00:01:55.906] gateDistanceThreshold = 25 m
[00:01:55.906] [KIAH2] started
[00:01:56.172] Initial camera state: 15.0
[00:01:56.672] GSX started
[00:01:56.922] Start searching for add-on Packages
[00:01:57.094] Packages that contain manifest.json with gsx-pro in dependencies:
[00:01:57.094] Creating model cache...
[00:01:59.563] GSX SimStart
[00:01:59.563] GSX SimStop
[00:01:59.563] GSX SimStart
[00:01:59.688] FacilitiesCache.refreshSubscribe()
[00:02:06.688] File 'M:\Tools\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-pro/SimObjects\GroundVehicles\FSDT_Passengers_Seated\sim.cfg' ignored, can't read max_speed_mph
[00:02:11.375] File 'M:\Tools\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-pro/SimObjects\Landmarks\FSDT_WorldOfJetways\sim.cfg' ignored, can't read max_speed_mph
[00:02:16.141] File 'M:\Tools\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-world-of-jetways/SimObjects\Landmarks\FSDT_WorldOfJetways\sim.cfg' ignored, can't read max_speed_mph
[00:02:16.922] Model cache created
[00:02:17.563] Preload operators thumbnails...
[00:02:18.719] Preload operators thumbnails DONE
[00:02:43.078] GSX SimStop
[00:02:44.063] GSX SimStart
[00:02:45.016] GSX SimStop
[00:02:45.110] resetVars() with Simconnect
[00:02:47.110] USER airplane title reported by Simconnect is FMGS A320 Condor D-AICP
[00:02:47.110] Loading aircraft.cfg from m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.110] Loading engines.cfg from m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.110] Loading flight_model.cfg from m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.110] Loading gameplay.cfg from m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.110] Loading systems.cfg from m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.235] this airplane has 10 exits
[00:02:47.235] Model: "A20N" (length: 4)
[00:02:47.235] Title: "FMGS A320 Condor D-AICP" (length: 23)
[00:02:47.235] Airplane major/minor version 320/0
[00:02:47.235] GSX SimStart
[00:02:47.235] ATC_ID_SIM read from Simconnect is D-AICP
[00:02:47.235] Searching airplane
[00:02:47.235] Searching airplane FMGS_A320_NEO
[00:02:47.235] Searching airplane FMGS_A320_NEO/320
[00:02:47.235] Searching airplane FMGS_A320_NEO/320/0
[00:02:47.235] Using aircraft data from SimConnect
[00:02:47.235] Auto Modular Merge is False
[00:02:47.235] fmgs a320
[00:02:47.235] Airplane Title = fmgs a320 condor d-aicp
[00:02:47.235] icao_airline not found in aircraft.cfg, we'll use the airline code from Simbrief, if available.
[00:02:47.235] Airframe-specific GSX-D-AICP.CFG not found in m:\xboxgames\microsoft flight simulator\community\fmgs-a320-neo\simobjects\airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.235] Airframe-specific GSX-D-AICP.CFG not found in C:\Users\peter\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali/Airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo
[00:02:47.235] Found gsx.cfg file at C:\Users\peter\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali/Airplanes\fmgs_a320_neo\gsx.cfg
[00:02:47.235] icaoType A20N overriding icao_type_designator A20N from aircraft.cfg
[00:02:47.235] Aircraft group is ARC-C
[00:02:47.313] Aircraft Ceiling is 2.2 m
[00:02:47.328] AIManager: Starting AI tracking...
[00:02:47.328] AIManager: Subscribed to ObjectAdded
[00:02:47.328] AIManager: Subscribed to ObjectRemoved
[00:02:47.328] AIManager: Subscribed to 6Hz frame event
[00:02:47.328] GSX Pro version 3.7.4 is installed, checking remote version on update
[00:02:47.516] GSX Pro latest version is 3.7.4
[00:02:47.844] AIManager: Querying AI aircraft within 6000m...
[00:02:47.860] AIManager: No AI aircraft found in range
[00:02:50.531] [GSX] Waiting for airport data... (1s)
[00:02:50.531] FacilitiesCache.unsubscribe()
[00:02:50.531] FacilitiesCache.refreshSubscribe()
[00:02:52.719] [GSX] Waiting for airport data... (20s)
[00:02:52.781] FacilitiesCache.unsubscribe()
[00:02:52.781] FacilitiesCache.refreshSubscribe()
[00:02:53.547] [GSX] Waiting for airport data... (40s)
[00:02:53.610] FacilitiesCache.unsubscribe()
[00:02:53.610] FacilitiesCache.refreshSubscribe()
[00:02:59.000] [GSX] Waiting for airport data... (60s)
[00:03:00.000] FacilitiesCache.unsubscribe()
[00:03:00.000] FacilitiesCache.refreshSubscribe()
[00:03:05.188] requestFacilityData FAOR
[00:03:05.235] requestFacilityData DONE FAOR
[00:03:05.235] Loading airport FAOR
[00:03:05.250] Using airport customization from user Python faor-inibuilds
[00:03:05.578] Loading user customizations from C:\Users\peter\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali/GSX/MSFS\faor-iniBuilds.ini
[00:03:05.578] jetwayHeightsDict =  {'faor_jetway_type1': '4.0', 'faor_jetway_type2': '5.05', 'faor_jetway_type3': '5.05', 'faor_jetway_type4': '4.20', 'faor_jetway_type3b': '4.5', 'faor_jetway_type3c': '4.5'}
[00:03:05.766] [GSX] onEnteredAirport FAOR
[00:03:05.860] FacilitiesCache.unsubscribe()
[00:03:05.906] This plane is missing the attachModelSeats definition=None
[00:03:05.906] No valid FSDT_Passengers_Seats.xml for airline None
[00:03:05.953] Jetway status REST, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[00:03:05.953] Requested parking services to Apron A|Stand A7
[00:03:05.953] Marshaller distance readout disabled by user preferences
[00:03:05.953] aircraftEngaged
[00:03:05.953] creating SimBrief object
[00:03:05.969] Trying SimBrief with username: https://www.simbrief.com/api/xml.fetcher.php?username=captpero
[00:03:06.844] SimBrief data fetched successfully with username
[00:03:06.844] Icao airline was None
[00:03:06.844] Icao airline set by Simbrief to CFG Condor Flugdienst GmbH None language ('en-de', 'euro')
[00:03:06.875] Parsed 12 waypoints from SimBrief navlog
[00:03:06.875] The loaded flight plan from FAOR doesn't match the one on SimBrief, from FMMI to FMCZ
[00:03:06.875] emulateMenu_MSFS
[00:03:08.063] Detected entry from main menu (camera state: 16.0 -> 2.0)
[00:03:08.063] Auto-repositioning scheduled from main menu
[00:03:11.141] Auto-repositioning to parking 12
[00:03:19.188] Parked: distance error = 0.00 ft, offtrack error = -0.00 ft, heading error = 0.00 deg
[00:03:32.500] emulateMenu_MSFS CHOICE 5
[00:03:32.500] channel.balance =  -1
[00:03:32.547] Requested assistance services at Apron A|Stand A7
[00:03:32.547] FSDT_GSX_SetGate 12 7 0
[00:03:32.563] Jetway status REST, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[00:03:32.656] emulateMenu_MSFS
[00:03:35.469] emulateMenu_MSFS CHOICE 1
[00:03:35.469] channel.balance =  -1
[00:03:35.485] FSDT_GSX_NUMPASSENGERS is 0
[00:03:35.500] EMPTY WEIGHT = 93697, FUEL TOTAL QUANTITY WEIGHT = 7262, TOTAL WEIGHT = 136692.328125, MAX GROSS WEIGHT = 174165.0
[00:03:35.500] Payload:35733/73205 lbs.
[00:03:35.500] Set passengers to 162 (payload of 35732 / 220).
[00:03:35.516] FSDT_GSX_NUMPASSENGERS is 0
[00:03:35.516] Estimated number of passengers is 162
[00:03:35.641] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Handling by Nas Colossal WHITE
[00:03:35.641] AssistanceServices.showMessage() This gate has a standard jetway. WHITE
[00:03:35.641] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Jetway operating WHITE
[00:03:35.641] setNumVagons()
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_NUMPASSENGERS = 0.0
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_MAX_NUMPASSENGERS = 0.0
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_SIMBRIEF_CARGO = 0.0
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_SIMBRIEF_UNITS = 0
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_SIMBRIEF_FUEL = 0.0
[00:03:35.641] FSDT_GSX_SIMBRIEF_MAX_TOW = 0.0
[00:03:35.672] EMPTY WEIGHT = 93697, FUEL TOTAL QUANTITY WEIGHT = 7262, TOTAL WEIGHT = 136692.328125, MAX GROSS WEIGHT = 174165.0
[00:03:35.672] Payload:35733/73205 lbs.
[00:03:35.672] Set Wagons according to Payload
[00:03:35.672] Set 2/3 wagons, according to loading ratio of 48.81%
[00:04:04.266] Jetway status FULLY_ATTACHED, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[00:04:04.266] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Jetways operation completed GREEN
[00:05:03.766] Stopped infinite generation of Passengers
[00:05:31.125] emulateMenu_MSFS
[00:05:33.063] emulateMenu_MSFS CHOICE 5
[00:05:33.063] channel.balance =  -1
[00:05:33.125] AssistanceServices.showMessage() This gate has a standard jetway. WHITE
[00:05:33.125] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Jetway operating WHITE
[00:05:56.500] Jetway status REST, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[00:05:56.500] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Jetways operation completed GREEN
[00:05:57.438] emulateMenu_MSFS
[00:05:59.797] emulateMenu_MSFS CHOICE 5
[00:05:59.797] channel.balance =  -1
[00:05:59.860] AssistanceServices.showMessage() This gate has a standard jetway. WHITE
[00:05:59.860] AssistanceServices.showMessage() Jetway operating WHITE
[00:06:17.938] Slew mode True
[00:06:18.156] Traceback (most recent call last):
[00:06:18.156]   File ".\GSX\assistanceServices\jetwayOperations.py", line 453, in _trigger
[00:06:18.156] Exception: requestJetwayData Internal error (dwIndex == 99)
{'User Pos': (-26.132875851432278, 28.232988658623466, 1690.49 m, 2.71875 m, 276.35498779296876, 0.006118051953273931, 0.003490658476948738, -0.00031063284561868085, 2.7096721046447754, 1.0), 'Airport': 'FAOR', 'Requested parking services to': 'Apron A|Stand A7', 'Requested assistance services at': 'Apron A|Stand A7'}



[capt_pero]

Can someone confirm that the crash is reproduceable at different airports?
For me it looks like some are working without CTD and others (EPWA) causing a CTD when using GSX and AIG is injecting traffic.

[Mark823]

I tested it at KMSP, the same airport where MSFS crashed to desktop several times before.
Just to mention, I don’t think it’s a model issue. I’m using FSHud together with the AIG flight plans and models.

I did notice that FSHud injects around 20 aircraft less.
Maybe you can test what happens if you reduce AIGTC injection.

[capt_pero]

I tested it at KMSP, the same airport where MSFS crashed to desktop several times before.
Just to mention, I don’t think it’s a model issue. I’m using FSHud together with the AIG flight plans and models.

I did notice that FSHud injects around 20 aircraft less.
Maybe you can test what happens if you reduce AIGTC injection.

FYI: KMSP is running on my system (default airport) without CTD. Strange... Maybe related to some models that are getting in conflict with the new LOD change of GSX?