CTD after 3.7.4 update related to AI (MSFS2020)

[mico]

MSFS will crash every time after update GSX 3.7.4. It almost crashed after landing,sometimes crash when entering departure airport. MSFS is normal after uninstall GSX.
My ram is 16G. I don't know if it's because of it. I've seen other message about memory overflow .

[renkouchuan]

Hello folks. Just wondering if any AIG traffic users got CTD after the latest update? I have no issues when 3.7.3 but get crashes every time now when I load in an airport and AI starts to inject. Uninstall no matter AIG or GSX can solve the problem, as a result it looks GSX conflicts with AI. Any idea how this happened or which function can be turned off to have both working together? So frustrated because I’m not an online flyer so AI is the key point for my enhancement.

[vandalay]

I have to do more testing but if I remember correctly it could have been that the CTDs only started with 3.7.4 when I started injecting traffic. But I dont use AIG, I use FSLT.
The only thing I know for sure is that after uninstalling GSX 3.7.4 I never had any CTDs anymore. And when using 3.7.3 and all my other addons I never had any CTDs at all.

[jaawis]

Same here and confirmed for lots of other people as well. After upgrading 3.7.4 we're getting major CTD issues. Never had a CTD with MSFS before. Deactivation of GSX and it runs normal again.

[vandalay]

Yeah there are reports on that all over the place.
Does anybody know why there is no feedback at all from the GSX developer? Maybe he is on a long new years holiday and of course, may he  enjoy it.

[DownedAviator]

I am having the same problem in MSFS 2020. Please FSDT can we have a way to revert to the previous version?

This is a general problem not restricted to a specific external AI injector.


INFO:

Final line in SimConnect log:

355.08698 [364, 4792]RequestDataOnSimObject:RequestID=684, DefineID=-1386682032, ObjectID=11218, Period=1, Flags=0, origin=0, interval=0, limit=0

[vandalay]

I am having the same problem in MSFS 2020. Please FSDT can we have a way to revert to the previous version?

This is a general problem not restricted to a specific external AI injector.


INFO:

Final line in SimConnect log:

355.08698 [364, 4792]RequestDataOnSimObject:RequestID=684, DefineID=-1386682032, ObjectID=11218, Period=1, Flags=0, origin=0, interval=0, limit=0

Absolutely. Its definitely 3.7.4 and at least a roll back to 3.7.3 should be made possible by FSDT as soon as possible.

[capt_pero]

I have CTD as well standing at the Gate and waiting for PB.
As I am writing Logbook with all my changes I am doing I can say, that MSFS 1.39.9.0 was installed on my maschine at 31th of december as well.
No clue what causes the issue but before it was very stable.

I will test without GSX today and see what happens...

[crx0203]

Same issue for when starting AIGTech or BATC, always CTD before AI Aircraft injection. After unsintalling GS, everything worked perfectly.

[capt_pero]

Same issue for when starting AIGTech or BATC, always CTD before AI Aircraft injection. After unsintalling GS, everything worked perfectly.

I cannot confirm this. Did a test on EDDS Gate 15 with AIG. After starting PB with GSX the Sim did NOT CTD.

Confirmed.

I have now also carried out several tests:

1) If I deactivate ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ in exe.xml, load the simulator, manually start ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ after standing at the gate, request the jetways in GSX and then start AIG, there appears to be NO CTD.

2) If I reactivate ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ in exe.xml and follow the same steps as in 1, the simulator crashes as soon as AIG tries to load aircraft into the simulator.

It would still need to be checked whether there is also a CTD in scenario 2 if I do not request any GSX services (jetways, etc.).

[DownedAviator]

Same issue for when starting AIGTech or BATC, always CTD before AI Aircraft injection. After unsintalling GS, everything worked perfectly.

I cannot confirm this. Did a test on EDDS Gate 15 with AIG. After starting PB with GSX the Sim did NOT CTD.

Confirmed.

I have now also carried out several tests:

1) If I deactivate ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ in exe.xml, load the simulator, manually start ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ after standing at the gate, request the jetways in GSX and then start AIG, there appears to be NO CTD.

2) If I reactivate ‘couatl64_boot.exe’ in exe.xml and follow the same steps as in 1, the simulator crashes as soon as AIG tries to load aircraft into the simulator.

It would still need to be checked whether there is also a CTD in scenario 2 if I do not request any GSX services (jetways, etc.).

This workaround seems to be effective until or if FSDT address the issue in 3.7.4.  I had CTD's with GSX pre-loaded by exe.xml even if I did not request any GSX services before starting AIGTC. Now I have disabled GSX auto startup in exe.xml. I started the sim, loaded into my departure airport EGLL and started AIGTC. After traffic had been injected I manually started GSX.  So far no CTD's.

[DownedAviator]

I also found that rather than manually starting GSX after loading into the departure airport I could instead start GSX as soon as the World Map loaded and the sim did not CTD when AI traffic was injected.

I have tried a reinstall of GSX but that did not fix the problem. v3.7.4 is definitely broken and needs to be fixed or reverting to 3.7.3 made possible.

[DownedAviator]

Yes that's also the way I've already tested by swiching GSX off then turning it on. However, my situation is even worse. When I'm all set at the gate with AI even all injected, I will still get CDT right away after I trun GSX on. The only solution for me is turning off GSX during the whole flight until approach to my destination then activate GSX. What's more funny is even by doing that, after I landed some major airports with huge amount of AI, CTD still comes before I taxi to the gate. Anyway, at least now everybody can confirm that's 3.7.4 gets our sims ruined and we just don't know when we can get our stable edition back. For those who ask for rolling back to 3.7.3? Forget it, I've been using GSX for over 10 years and never seen those arrogant developers give you that chance.

Hi,

I don't know how you are manually starting GSX but if it is by executing "C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\couatl64\Couatl64_MSFS.exe" directly it will cause a CTD with AI traffic injection.
If that is the case then execute "C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\couatl64\Couatl64_boot.exe" instead.

Hope that helps.
 

[renkouchuan]

Yes that's also the way I've already tested by swiching GSX off then turning it on. However, my situation is even worse. When I'm all set at the gate with AI even all injected, I will still get CDT right away after I trun GSX on. The only solution for me is turning off GSX during the whole flight until approach to my destination then activate GSX. What's more funny is even by doing that, after I landed some major airports with huge amount of AI, CTD still comes before I taxi to the gate. Anyway, at least now everybody can confirm that's 3.7.4 gets our sims ruined and we just don't know when we can get our stable edition back. For those who ask for rolling back to 3.7.3? Forget it, I've been using GSX for over 10 years and never seen those arrogant developers give you that chance.

Hi,

I don't know how you are manually starting GSX but if it is by executing "C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\couatl64\Couatl64_MSFS.exe" directly it will cause a CTD with AI traffic injection.
If that is the case then execute "C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\couatl64\Couatl64_boot.exe" instead.

Hope that helps.

Thank you for your direction. Today I also pointed my clues to that folder. I’ve noticed in coutal64 folder there’s one couatl64_boot.exe plus three different couatl64_xxx.exe to match three different P3D/MSFS versions of course. However, sim only uses coualt64_boot when we load in an airport. I’m now curious what will happen if I delete all three couatl64, or just keep one of them in case of GSX cannot identify the right version after update. I’ll test tomorrow.

[DownedAviator]

I have found the most reliable option is to start Couatl64_boot.exe AFTER the initial injection of AI traffic has completed.

I do not think deleting those other exe's will help and could make things worse.

Good luck.