Issues with Leonardo Maddog Exterior Model After Adding GSX Seated Passengers

[Sparky233]

Hello,
I have had issues with the Leonardo Maddog in FS2024 in reference to GSX. The aircraft exterior model worked fine before adding seated passengers to the aircraft via the FSDT Installer with no bugs or issues. After adding the seated passengers via the FSDT Installer, the aircraft has had extensive exterior model issues with the MD-88 and MD-83 models. This includes there being no exterior skin, as well as the exterior model being frozen in the state pictured below. I have looked for all remedies to this however, none work. Here is also the livery used in this particular case, but as noted, it happens with all models and textures, even the base ones for the MD-88 and MD-83.

https://flightsim.to/file/32223/delta-air-lines-n917dl-2020-md-88-8k is the livery

https://i.gyazo.com/221238c37ea37e2eb5b4be6712b2736f.png

https://i.gyazo.com/8ef4b304f186066d6069a498f22551e7.png

https://i.gyazo.com/57882b20705d4d47a97139753d41ebd3.png

[Sparky233]

I will say I believe this problem stems from somewhere within the model file that the FSDT Installer places into the aircraft folder when adding seated passengers

[Sparky233]

Hello, I know there is a backlog right now but I wanted to see if this was seen at all yet?

[davidcherrie]

This has been an issue with Seated Passengers and the Maddog almost for a year and Umberto refuses to acknowledge it. "Doesn't happen here" as he always.

https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,31967.0.html

Better to just not use Seated Passengers for the Maddog.

[virtuali]

This has been an issue with Seated Passengers and the Maddog almost for a year and Umberto refuses to acknowledge it. "Doesn't happen here" as he always.

I don't JUST say "he doesn't happen here", I asked specific question to understand why it might happen to some users, you said it happens with "the MD80" and all liveries, that is assuming with "MD80" you mant all 3 variants (MD82-83-88), which clearly can't be, otherwise I should be able to replicate it easily.

So, again, please provide precise reproduction steps, clearly specifying which variant you tested, and exactly which livery. Do not reply "all of them", that's not what I'm asking, I'm asking for just a simple example I can reproduce.

[davidcherrie]

In that case try my livery I have made:

https://flightsim.to/file/31823/md-82-qantaslink-vh-yqy

Install into the MD-88. Turn on GSX, load the simulator and the external model is missing.

Works without enabling Seated Passengers, as soon as you enable it, it breaks the aircraft. As soon as you disable it, it is fixed. Correlation = causation?

[virtuali]

In that case try my livery I have made:

Does this mean:

- It's just an example of something that doesn't work, but it doesn't work on default liveries as well

OR

- It happens only with that livery, but not with official ones or not with all of them, or you haven't tried ?

Of course I'll try your livery. And please clarify which simulator you are using it, if you use both 2024 and 2020, clarify if the problem happens in one of them (which one) or both.

[davidcherrie]

It happens with all liveries I have come across. I have given you the steps to replicate as requested, now replicate and find out what you are doing to break the aircraft.

[virtuali]

Works without enabling Seated Passengers, as soon as you enable it, it breaks the aircraft. As soon as you disable it, it is fixed. Correlation = causation?

Nice livery you made. Now, I think SOMETHING strange is happening because:

- When I first loaded the airplane directly to the airport, the cabin didn't appeared.

- When I went to the Hangar screen and selected the Livery, it worked and from then on, it started working in the sim as well.

I looked at the changes made by GSX, and the all looks correct to me, except for a very minor thing, which shouldn't be an issue on Windows, and it's the upper/lower case, here's how the model.cfg for the MD-88 looks like:

[models]
exterior=..\..\MaddogX\Model\MaddogX_exterior.xml
interior=..\..\MaddogX\Model\MaddogX_interior.xml

However, the airplane model is installed into "model" folder all lower case, it shouldn't make any difference on a case-insensitive filesystem like Windows but maybe this is causing it: maybe some parts in the sim do case-sensitive comparisons during the initial loading, but the Hangar doesn't so, as long you enter the hangar, the full airplane loads.

[davidcherrie]

Thank you for the compliment.

That isn't what I get, the plane doesn't load in the hangar view nor does it load when spawning in. Are you configuring the livery to the MD-88 and not using the base MD-82?

[virtuali]

the plane doesn't load in the hangar view

Have you tried to click on the bottom images that scroll between various liveries, and maybe load the base one before ?

Are you configuring the livery to the MD-88 and not using the base MD-82?

I'm not configuring anything, I just copied the package in the Community, selected an MD-88 and found your livery in addition to the stock ones.

[davidcherrie]

I’ll try this next time, but in all the previous attempts selecting liveries and see which ones work and which ones don’t is that they are all broken including the base one (in 2020).

Have spent very little time in 2024 trying to figure it out because 10 months ago couldn’t get it to work at all in 2020.

[virtuali]

Have spent very little time in 2024 trying to figure it out because 10 months ago couldn’t get it to work at all in 2020.

I tried only MSFS 2020.

[davidcherrie]

As I said in the other post and responding to the users questions in here who is referencing 2024 and along with the instructions and screenshot taken from 2024, I’ve only ever been talking about 2024. I haven’t opened 2020 for 3 months.

[virtuali]

As I said in the other post and responding to the users questions in here who is referencing 2024 and along with the instructions and screenshot taken from 2024, I’ve only ever been talking about 2024. I haven’t opened 2020 for 3 months.

For real ? I tried it 2020 precisely because what you just wrote!

in all the previous attempts selecting liveries and see which ones work and which ones don’t is that they are all broken including the base one (in 2020). Have spent very little time in  2024 trying to figure it out because 10 months ago couldn’t get it to work at all in 2020.

That's why I tried 2020, because you said it never worked there. You said it has been more than a year and I "refuse to acknowledge it", that could only have been 2020, since a year ago 2024 wasn't even out!