Author Topic: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?  (Read 341 times)

wakevortex

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Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« on: April 25, 2024, 07:25:09 pm »
Love the program , and use it exclusively in VR mainly with Fenix A320...
is there any way we can make the window NOT  disappear, so we can move it somewhere in the VR cockpit and just look at it  as we need it?
As it stands, for example we have no idea when the crew are actually ready to push ( so we can say what direction of push) and have to open GSX either from Toolbar or the Flow wheel and guess when that stage is ready to go.. ..
mapping gsx to a key command is fine, but keys are a non starter in VR... . ive assigned that key command  to a joystick button, but GSX only appears intermittently when hitting those key commands for some reason when in VR ..
Having a fixed GSX window, would be great for VR in my view... any thoughts appreciated - hope it makes sense
« Last Edit: April 26, 2024, 10:23:00 am by wakevortex »

birkenmoped

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2024, 09:56:03 pm »
But please not as a standard setting, but only as an option. I only need the GSX window for a very small part of the entire flight and am glad that this window disappears automatically.
I would also like to see this for some of the other FS2020 windows!

Thanks!

wakevortex

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2024, 10:22:30 am »
Absolutely as an option... would be great to have it !

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2024, 10:16:42 am »
+1: I agree: the GSX window doesn't have to disappear without user intervention.

virtuali

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2024, 11:24:35 am »
This has been discussed and answered so many times:

The GSX menu disappears automatically after a *variable* time, which has been selected depending on the operation, and also the *effect* of what will happen after a timeout changes depending on the operation, in some cases it won't do anything, in other cases it will choose a default and proceed.

This because the way GSX works, you open the menu, select a command, and then you might not need the menu for some time, and nothing useful appears on the menu that would need justify keeping it open ( like a moving map, for example.

So, the menu stays on screen only when is really required, so it won't cover instruments and, most importantly, won't "steal" all the numeric keys from the simulator, which might be used for other functions/instruments/efbs, etc. and with the different timeouts times and effects, will allow to operate GSX without having to press extra keys if you are ok for the default choice, like when selecting some operator, which has a short timeout time and a default choice.

In addition to that, other than stealing keys from the sim, keeping the menu open has also an impact on performances, because the menu items would need to be kept refreshed continuously  (for example when the status of an in-progress operation changes), opposite to how it is now, when the menu entries are only refreshed when the menu opens.

wakevortex

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2024, 04:41:34 pm »
Ok thanks for the explanation , given its not going to be possible to keep it open, can you look into the fact that in VR , the window doesnt always open when called by the keyboard shortcut (in my case mapped to a joystick button , as in VR we cant see the keys ! ) - it does the same in 2d unless you have just opened GSX some other way, then it works reliably for a few minutes.... very odd..
...it would be really useful for that to work reliably so we can call it up with one press rather than via the toolbar or Flow..
thanks
« Last Edit: April 29, 2024, 06:20:31 pm by wakevortex »

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Re: Can we make the GSX window NOT dissapear ?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2024, 02:17:52 pm »
can you look into the fact that in VR , the window doesnt always open

The MSFS menu system itself has issues in VR we can't really fix. Not without modifying stock menu files, which we'd rather not.