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GSX Pro - Top or Flop?
Luxuryceo:
--- Quote from: Aviator74 on August 20, 2022, 06:12:29 am ---In all due respect NGX driver was given a free copy, way he moaned and picked about little things like baggage animations, came across like an entitled little brat..I understand there is issues upon release.I had them myself..I must admit once I updated to latest 2022 in the live update..It has been ok..yes there is some bugs, sure FSDT will iron them out..
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i have to agree with this post i didnt like the way the youtuber moaned and picked things out like the entitled little brat as said here i even disliked that video Virtuali works his backside off trying to give us addons for msfs or any other sim but then people bitch and moan and bang their head of the floor and throw a tantum after buying it on launch when it doesnt work let the dev iron the damn bugs and issues out for god sake.
if you buy it use it and find an error or a bug/issue post it on the forums and let the devs help you with it or sort it out...
Julean:
The ABSOLUTE TOP!
I have CTDs today as well, which didn't appear before GSX pro.
Well all these problems have to be sorted out....
FSDT claimed that GSX was not responsible for the CTDs - well that was to bold a move... This really got people upset...
When that fire has fused off, back to work, for all ... and get this wonderful addon working..
There are many issues, and it seems many have identified problems, but some of the problems seem to be how MSFS influence scenery through marketplace... so a lot of things seem to be involved.. There are maybe the usual combability issues. The simulator is loaded with a lot of programs and this one is complex, a lot of things are happening - and the sim has to handle this also. This addon is a very ambitious addon, and for me it brings soo much life and realism and play into the sim experience.. I so much hope it will thrive ...
And by the way, an addon without beginner issues? Does that exist? I have been flightsimming since 2000, and CTDs - Oh my God.. I have been ready for therapy many times.. :o
All the best to all developers and pilots.
Julean
Love to watch the airport life.. even other AI planes get handling... wonderful.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: mopperle on August 20, 2022, 08:17:54 pm ---I guess this is the Navdata API that could be used in this case. But this API was present from day 1 of the SU10 Beta, so I'm wondering why Umberto didnt make use of it or waited till it is finally available? Or is he not participating inthe MSFS Beta program?
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We surely have the Beta and the API documentation. But it's not as if we could use it right now, for many reasons:
- It still has bugs, some developers reported not all data is correct, sometimes returning garbage. Before we can use something like this, which is integral to how GSX work, because it's the very data GSX lives with, we need to be 100% sure it's rock solid, it performs well, and it report 100% accurate data about the airport.
- Even if, hypothetically, the new API was 100% perfect since "day1" of the beta, doesn't mean we can use it because, if we released a version of the software linked with the SU10 Beta Simconnect, it won't work with SU9, likely crashing with unresolved dependencies, because the SU9 version of the sim doesn't know what to do with the new calls. I don't even think it's possible to connect to an previous version of the sim using a newer version of the Simconnect client.
So, before we can begin working on this APIs all the conditions must apply: it must be released officially first, so we can be sure of what can do and what can't, what is working and what needs another workaround and then, after having assessed its feasibility, we'll start working on adding it to Couatl, possibly replacing the whole "airport cache" concept, the need to read .BGL files and the inability to use Marketplace airports without other workarounds.
So yes, if the API is feasible and reliable (and we can only be sure of this *after* it come out officially ), we surely plan to use it. We started asking for it 2 year ago. In fact, more than 2 years ago, because way BEFORE MSFS was even in Alpha (January 2020), a few days after it was announced at the 2019 E3, Microsoft sent an email to all known developers, asking which features we wanted to have, from an SDK point of view. My list was of course very long, including many things that probably will never happen, but accessing to the airport data without having to read .BGLs was one I labeled as crucial so, it would silly not using it now it finally arrived.
Wimma:
--- Quote from: virtuali on August 20, 2022, 11:42:54 pm ---
So, before we can begin working on this APIs all the conditions must apply: it must be released officially first, so we can be sure of what can do and what can't,
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So why didn't you just wait with releasing it until after SU10?
The thing is, I have been using GSX since 2016 and I really LOVE the other renditions of it! I was also eager to get my hands on to the MSFS version but I would rather have a working product I can use once I buy it than to buy it and uninstall it hours later because it causes problems; not only for me but for a rather massive amount of people. I am impatient myself, but when it comes to stuff like that I would wait a month, heck, even 2 months longer and then have fun with it.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: wingview on August 20, 2022, 06:28:39 pm ---Emanuel is not only talking about the CTD's but also that this addon was released way too early and he is right about that.
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I think he said 3 TYPES of things:
CTDs
Evidence that is coming out right now seems to indicate we were right in the middle of a generic "CTD season", possibly related to MS Servers adapting to the upcoming SU10.
Bugs new of this version
Sure there are some, we are obviously going through them, one by one, until everything is sorted. Do I really NEED to say something like that ? After 10 years of GSX history of continuing updates ?
Things he didn't like since "forever"
This one should have been covered in a completely different review. Precisely because GSX has been out since 10+ years, we can only assume users generally LIKE what it does. Of course everything can be made more realistic, more fun ( sometimes these are in conflict with each other ), but the very idea of "realistic" or "fun" is very different for each user. We can only go so far imagining what MOST users want, and the only instrument we have is...actual sales. Which is something users don't have, especially when they don't understand why we did this before that.
Sure, from an aviation point of view, having push-pull pushback is probably more important but, what made the sales spike were the GRAPHIC upgrades, like when we worked for almost 9 months to support PBR when P3D4.4 came out, user were angry because we went silent about new features because we were at work remodeling and retexturing but, when it came out, sales spiked up immediately, like a clockwork. This is only human: eyesight is our most important sense, and we are affected more from what we *see* compared to anything else. If we weren't, everybody would still use P3D 4.5, which was the most powerful (SDK) and at the same time the most stable version of every sim I know, and MSFS would be considered just a glorified Xbox game. However, that's not the world we live in, and somebody that works with "moving images" like a YouTuber, should fully understand that.
The issue is, studies have proven many times that, videos with catching titles and possibly controversial issues are far more engaging that glowing reviews, which most users would assume to be sponsored anyway. And to do that, you had to put all 3 things together, to make a stronger point. Doesn't mind if the most serious one wasn't an issue to begin with.
However, I don't think he was dishonest. I think he HONESTLY believed his CTD were caused by GSX, because there were some coincidences which *seemed* to indicate that, but they seem to have been disproven, since there's just too much evidence the CTD happened these days with an unusually high frequency even to users that never had GSX.
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