The Cool Video Thread

[PhantomTweak]

Rick, thanks! great post. Appreciate it.
I am not the kind to say "I told you so, but...". In this case, I may make an exception, though...

Mr. Sinbad, Sir,
If I'm going to land an F-35 on a carrier, I am going to use the VTOL feature. Seems a ton easier and safer, especially given the dearth of data (my big word for today ) on it's landing speeds, AOA setting for a carrier approach and so on.
Me, I'm sticking to the FSDT F/A-18C, almost entirely Peter's NH model. LOVE that bird.
I'm also looking forward to Jimi and Orion's next updated plane. SHould be totally awesome (To me, anyway )
Pat☺

[Azframer]

VTOL feature is only on the B model, the other two are conventional landing aircraft. To me that makes the other  two models over priced and I would rather have more F-22's for the Air Force the Navy would need something low observable to fill their needs.

Rick

[SpazSinbad]

I'm not sure why 'AzFramer' needs to bad mouth the F-35s - this thread is about videos with a side portion of landing info. But anyway....

'PhantomTweak' you have misunderstood I think. My lack of knowledge about how the F-35A lands / pilot technique was only for that variant. Knowledge of how the F-35C lands is well enough known these days. Probably back in an old thread that knowledge is replicated. I can make a PDF that has most of the F-35C 'how to deck land' material if anyone is interested. All this stuff is online but no one seems to download / read this material so I take there is a complete lack of interest.

In a nutshell for the F-35C USN LSOs have given some approximate figures (precise numbers would be in NATOPS but who has that?).

on-speed AOA of 12.3° at 135-140 KCAS at max. landing weight of 46,000 lbs plus the aircraft has the equivalent of "Magic Carpet (for the Super Hornet)" in the form of IDLC/'delta flight path' (Itegrated Direct Lift Control). The ease of deck landing the F-35C accurately was demonstrated aboard NIMITZ late last year.

[PhantomTweak]

I'm not sure why 'AzFramer' needs to bad mouth the F-35s - this thread is about videos with a side portion of landing info. But anyway....

I apologize, I think I started that. I will keep my opinions on this to myself 

I can make a PDF that has most of the F-35C 'how to deck land' material if anyone is interested.

That would be appreciated, on the chance I want to step up the the F-35 for carrier work. Whatever I may think of Lockheed, Dino makes some really great birds, no doubt.

plus the aircraft has the equivalent of "Magic Carpet (for the Super Hornet)" in the form of IDLC/'delta flight path' (Itegrated Direct Lift Control).

Did Dino model in those things? IDLS, and Magic Carpet? I know Iris did a form of DLC on their F-14A for FS9, but it's not very "detailed". It's essentially spoilers up or spoilers down. I am nowhere near a pilot but the NATOPS seems to indicate that the pilot can raise/lower the spoilers in small increments, or maybe it's controlled by the ADC once the pilot selects DLC ON on the stick grip, I'm not certain now that I think of it...

I still appreciate all the great info you have been stuffing into my skull lately about "How-To" as far as carrier landings go...
Pat☺

[SpazSinbad]

'PhantomTweak' the 'how to deck land' PDFs have been made and have been available for a long time. Like everything though probably they need updating however the bulk of the information is there and relevant from the beginning to now. Microsoft OneDrive in particular has gone through many changes over the last couple of years and frankly I'm baffled. However I'm not a downloader - just an uploader and having control of the web page means I do not see it in the same way another user might. At the beginning one has to 'register' with Microsoft to view/download material and I believe the process is easy enough. If you are a Windows user then probably you have Microsoft logins anyway but I cannot replicate all situations. Today I went to this URL - not logged on as owner of my page - and found nothing. This is new. However when I log in and go to the same URL I see all my files/directories. This is baffling. Before today I could go there without logging on to see the files. So YMMV. It was blank when I went there now but when signed it all the files etc appear so SIGN UP etc.

This is a small PDF to start with: LSO DeckLand AUTO SuperHornet F-35C & X47B pp274 01jun2015.pdf

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=CBCD63D6340707E6%212248&cid=CBCD63D6340707E6&group=0 (24Mb)

There is a ton of basic/detailed info in the much larger PDFs here: https://onedrive.live.com/?id=CBCD63D6340707E6%212119&cid=CBCD63D6340707E6&group=0

These URLs are for subdirectories. I do not provide direct links to files because that starts the bullshit Microsoft PDF viewer which will not work. Please follow the advice given - in brief: right click on a PDF to download it first and then view it with the latest Adobe Reader suitable for your Operating System. Nothing else will do.

[Victory103]

PhantomTweak,
A quick note on the DLC, the Aerosoft model has it in a basic form, but it works allowing one to dump lift without changing AoA. In their version, it is either on or off, unlike the real Turkey that allows various pilot select-able angles for the spoilers.

100% with your statement about Dino's models, but he can only model what limited unclass'd info is out on the big ole inter-webs, even then he has to deal with FS limitations, so no fancy landing on the boat aids in the FS F-35.

[PhantomTweak]

right click on a PDF to download it first and then view it with the latest Adobe Reader suitable for your Operating System. Nothing else will do.

I agree, and is my normal procedure. Thanks very much for hte links, I will have the PDFs on my HD very shortly!

Mr Victory,
Thanks very much for the info! I appreciate any info I can cram into my little pea-brain...

Pat☺

[SpazSinbad]

FROM: http://lelandshanle.com/day-night-aircraft-carrier-landings-split-screen/

[GOONIE]

Nice HUD video of the carrier approach from 0.7NM to trap. Check out around 4:59.

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[SpazSinbad]

  Agree, was just watching that Part 1 (from 'FighterSweep' info) and was intending to make a small clip of the action.....  

[GOONIE]

Cool cut of the HUD video Spaz.

What I like about the super hornet HUD videos is that you can see the energy carrot to the right of the Velocity Vector, which essentially shows you what the pilot is doing with the throttle during the pass. You can see lots of small adjustments and dealing with the burble. I noticed IC to At the Ramp, while appearing slightly high on the ball, he adds power, but it all works out well. Not sure if that is the parallax from the HUD camera, or accounts for the settle.

[GOONIE]

Tailhook 2015 videos http://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2015/videos

[SpazSinbad]

Some of those TAILHOOK videos are a bit long with questions at the end not audible so I have taken the liberty of editing two videos - one about MAGIC CARPET for the Super Hornet +1 extra and as we are told it is taken from the F-35C IDLC/Delta Flight Path concept - explained for the Lightning II in the F-35C test pilot brief video.

[AvgeekJoe]

Some of those TAILHOOK videos are a bit long with questions at the end not audible so I have taken the liberty of editing two videos - one about MAGIC CARPET for the Super Hornet +1 extra and as we are told it is taken from the F-35C IDLC/Delta Flight Path concept - explained for the Lightning II in the F-35C test pilot brief video.

Speaking of Magic Carpet, here's my story: http://whidbeydailynews.com/2015/09/magic-carpet-software-may-mean-fewer-touch-and-gos-on-whidbey-island/

Hope you were able to save more of the Tailhook videos.

[SpazSinbad]

Thanks for the link 'AvgeekJoe' I'll check it out. As for the videos - all of them are available on one web page and I have only 'excerpted' those bits that interest me - usually deck landing and the new stuff - MC & F-35C. Missing from the 'Magic Carpet excerpt video' is the beginning part about the history of deck landing and how to do it. So go here for all the videos - complete:

ALL 2015 VIDEOS: http://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2015  | VX-23 2015 Strike Test News: http://issuu.com/nawcad_pao/docs/striketest2015_single

I have a lot of saved information about the F-35C IDLC/Delta Flight Path which was the forerunner to 'MAGIC Carpet' for the Super Hornet and that info as well. Attached is the latest VX-23 at PaxRiver PDF excerpt report about 'Magic Carpet' and JPALS etc. A lot of information about both aircraft and how they use these new deck landing techniques is on F-16.net - otherwise I could provide URLs for PDFs with this information collected - to date. Anyway go here:

This thread turns into everything about Magic Carpet and Super Hornet so title is misleading - search thread for 'Magic' (no quotes):

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15767

This thread is more about the F-35C etc: http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=26634