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Pushback Sequence - change request
Captain Kevin:
--- Quote from: Alpolex on January 23, 2023, 07:40:14 pm ---Yeah, a workaround. However, asking for the pushback to connect and standby until further notice to be ready for a pushback after receiving the ATC clearance, like in real-life, and then selecting the pushback which will be initiated directly, would be the better sequence.
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So just to confirm, you are wanting a button to ask the pushback to connect and standby, and then another button for selecting a direction? I'm not sure I understand the logic since you can't hear the pilot voices anyway. Once you initiate the pushback sequence, they'll already be connecting, and if you don't select a direction right away, they would be completing the connection sequence and then standing by anyway until you do.
By the way, I just ran a quick test and selected a direction immediately after it popped up, and the ground crew told me to release the parking brakes right away. So I'm not sure I understand the issue regarding a delay.
Alpolex:
Hello Captain Kevin,
just to make sure we're talking about the same factors: I am using the FSL A320FAM which obviously have different timings.
Starting the process with "Hello Captain we are ready for pushback" initiates the Ramp Agent going to the NLG to insert the bypass pins. However, after he confirms "bypass bin inserted" the p/b truck starts to arrive (1:11 min) to attach the aircraft to it's tug.
The announcement "locking the gear" (however, unnecessary call-out you wouldn't hear in real-ife) comes around 1:30 min with a pop-up message to state the direciton of pushback.
Selecting the direction it takes another 37 seconds for any movement before the "Release parking brake" announcement comes up.
To be straigh forward, because it seems you are not really understanding what I am asking for: I am not asking for a work-around after several years of intensive usage of GSX especially on VATSIM and online events.
I would like to enhance the sequence.
Improvement: Sequence should be initated with push-back completly ready and asking for direction during a second menu which means there are two stages in the menu:
a) Prepare for Pushback -> all preparations will be made and the tug is connected plus everything is ready upon selecting the next menu
b) Start Pushback -> request for direction and immediate start of pushback
Captain Kevin:
--- Quote from: Alpolex on January 24, 2023, 10:18:01 am ---Selecting the direction it takes another 37 seconds for any movement before the "Release parking brake" announcement comes up.
To be straigh forward, because it seems you are not really understanding what I am asking for: I am not asking for a work-around after several years of intensive usage of GSX especially on VATSIM and online events.
I would like to enhance the sequence.
Improvement: Sequence should be initated with push-back completly ready and asking for direction during a second menu which means there are two stages in the menu:
a) Prepare for Pushback -> all preparations will be made and the tug is connected plus everything is ready upon selecting the next menu
b) Start Pushback -> request for direction and immediate start of pushback
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The real question here is why is it taking 37 seconds from the time you select a direction to the time you're told to release the parking brakes because it shouldn't be doing that. As you saw in my video, I call for pushback, and everything's ready to go by the time the request for direction takes place, so as far as I'm concerned, from my video, it's doing exactly what you're wanting it to do. The only thing I can think of is if by some chance, there was an update that happened a while ago where the bypass pin location was added that the GSX aircraft configuration hadn't been updated for some reason. So here's a quick test. Start a pushback, but stay in external view and watch what the ground crew is doing. If you see the ground crew walk up to the center of the airplane and then back to the nose, this would confirm what I suspect.
Alpolex:
It's not a question, it's fact similar to other users. As I said, performed with the FSL A320FAM not PMDG.
See quote:
--- Quote ---I am using the FSL A320FAM which obviously have different timings.
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gregoryv:
I fully agree with Alpolex.
Logical sequence is looks wrong to me too.
For offline flights it probably not an issue but for flying in Vatsim in busy event it takes too much time.
The proposal to enable to finish all pushback preparations before looks very logical to me.
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