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GSX+P3DV4+QW787 Refueling Issue
Fragtality:
@mseder and other 787 users:
I'm currently working on a GSX/SimBrief Integration for the 787 - maybe you want to give that a try (Registered FSUIPC required though)?
Like Umberto described, the Plane will not be fueled and boarded by GSX directly - the Tool just slowly increases the Offsets for the Tanks / Payload Stations. But the animations will be in sync and the Fuel loaded and Passengers boarded are taken from the current dispatched SimBrief OFP. Basically: call Refuel / Board, no Inputs needed, sit back and watch your Fuel / Gross Weight grow to the dispatched Value on the EICAS ;)
mseder:
Umberto
"you don't fully understand how the GSX refueling works on 3rd party airplanes"
"by UN-checking the "Use default fuel/cargo page" in the Airplane customization window."
There is no such choice!!
"GSX IS NOT REFUELING THE PLANE!!! "
GSX IS REFUELING THE PLANE, but the second truck don't finish the job.
But this is random, sometimes it does, sometimes not. Sometimes when it says refueling completed and it's not, I THEN ask for a new refueling and THEN it does complete the job that the second truck in the first round didn't complete.
OK, do you really follow me here? If not please let me know.
And tell me, where in the manual are these circumstances described? Where, on what page?
"So, whatever issue you have with the refueling quantity with any other airplane flagged as using a custom refueling system, it's not caused GSX, because the airplane in that situation is not being refueled by GSX."
Alright, so after I select the amount of fuel in the GSX-dialog, yes GSX, GSX then message the portions of amount of fuel "[GSX] Loading fuel:...", then the fuel amount is increasing in the tanks which I can watch on the 787 instruments. All this while I'm not interfering. But according to you Umberto, it has nothing to do with GSX. Come on!!
I don't say I completely understand all this and sorry, I doubt you do as well!!
Let me conclude this:
- 787 has a custom fuel system (according to you)
- I assume that 787 also has a "Progressive refuel" as I can see how the fuel amount progressively is increasing.
- GSX is also supposed to detect this as that option is checked in the settings "Detect custom aircraft system refueling"
(If unchecked nothing happens and I have to use the 787 functionality to refuel the plane)
So I assume then that we, manual-wise are in the situation labeled "A 3rd party airplane with a Progressive Refueling simulation, the PMDG 777:" on page 19 but as that explains how it works with a PMDG 777 there are, honestly, not many trails left here in order to understand this.
mseder:
Hi Fragtality
"the Plane will not be fueled and boarded by GSX directly "
The boarding and fueling and the animations is working, almost correct with GSX 2
What would a Simbrief tool add?
Currently I have a good package of ATC, flightplan creation and other add-ons for my FSX world.
I'm though waiting for FSDT and other add-On producers to get their products ready for MSFS which I prefer not to use that much until it has all the components in place. BTW I use simbrief for my MSFS flightplans.
Mats
Fragtality:
Depends on the "toolchain" and the personal preferences, I guess ;)
I'm very used to the Flow I know from the FSLabs A320: The Plane retrieves the OFP from SimBrief and integrates nicely with GSX then: it loads (progressively) the correct Fuel (as per OFP) when refueled, and it boards the correct number of Passengers (as per OFB +/- small Variation) - progressively as they are walking down the Jetway.
Or in short: I'm just not used (and willing^^) to program the Plane or GSX with the Weights and it totally annihilates the Value of GSX (imho!) to have a Ground Service Simulation when you're already sitting there with refueled & boarded Plane! ;D
So that's the Value that a SimBrief Integration has to me.
But the Tool (currently) only really uses the Number of Passengers and the Block-Fuel from the SimBrief OFP ... would the Tool be of interest to you if these two Values could be provided by other means (Lvar/Offset/File)?
virtuali:
--- Quote from: mseder on January 31, 2022, 03:30:19 pm ---"by UN-checking the "Use default fuel/cargo page" in the Airplane customization window." There is no such choice!!
--- End quote ---
Of course there is. It's in the Airplane customization page, the exact wording is "Show the FSX Fuel and Cargo page"
--- Quote ---GSX IS REFUELING THE PLANE
--- End quote ---
As I've said, it DEPENDS on that option, which can be user-customized, which we set to Disabled for the QW787 so, by default, that airplane is not refueled by GSX.
--- Quote ---Alright, so after I select the amount of fuel in the GSX-dialog, yes GSX
--- End quote ---
Because the above option has been ENABLED!!!
But I assure you the QW787, in the GSX internal configuration IS set with the option DISABLED ( meaning GSX IS NOT REFUELING THE AIRPLANE ). You must understand the priority system:
- A developer-made GSX.CFG in the airplane folder will take precedence over the GSX internal configuration. Maybe QW is supplying with a GSX.CFG with the option enabled ?
- Your own change to that option has the highest priority so, it will take precedence over our own internal configuration and any developer-made config as well.
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