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Crash Crash and more Crashes.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: crash77 on October 08, 2015, 10:44:45 pm ---Ever since you implemented the Couatl "live" I have had nothing but problems.
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There are no problems with it.
--- Quote ---First, it pops up and says it needs to download via in game....ALL the time.
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No, it doesn't. It does that, only if you don't install the suggested update
--- Quote ---I checked and already had the latest Couatl manager downloaded...so what does it keep trying to update???
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That's you mistake. You assume that "because" you downloaded the "latest Couatl manager" ( there's no such thing, maybe you mean "The Stand-Alone Addon Manager" installer ), there will be no further updates. If you see an update message, it means there has been another update that has been released AFTER the day you last installed the Stand-Alone Addon Manager.
--- Quote ---Second, when it does update it often makes FSX crash saying that their is a conflict with the Couatl module.
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No, it doesn't do that.
When a minor update is released, it will restart Couatl.exe. So, it's possible your problem is the Restart function is not working for some reason, but this is of course entirely unrelated to the Live Update, you woould probably see the same message even if you tried "restart Couatl" yourself.
But since you haven't indicate the PRECISE, exact text of the message ( there's no such message like "there is a conflict with the Couatl module" ), it's difficult to understand what's causing this. Please indicate the precise, exact, text of an error message, so we can understand if it's coming from our software or from FSX, or from Windows itself, and they are all entirely different issues that must be handled entirely different.
--- Quote ---I have had to delete ALL FSDT products and reinstall them for it to stop crashing.
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This was obviously entirely redundant and not needed. If you have issues with the Live Update, just download and install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, and install it when FSX is not running. This will update EVERYHING related to the Addon Manager and Couatl.exe.
--- Quote ---The CYVR scenery which I have NEVER had issues with then crashes until after all scenery's are loaded and the latest Couatl manager is reinstalled after everything.
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Please indicate the precise, exact, text of any errors you see.
--- Quote ---I cannot load PHNL straight from FSX without going to another FSDT scenery and letting it load the cache.
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If with "loading the cache" you mean REGENERATING the cache, this might be your problem. You are not even supposed to "wait" to load for the cache. The cache will be recreated ONLY if you add a new scenery OR if it wasn't completed successfully the last session. This might happen if FSX crashed in the previous session.
Normally, you should see just the "Airport cache loaded successfully" message at startup, without any wait.
If you see the cache regeneration message, with the progress percentage, try not doing anything, and let it end. Check if it says the cache has been recreated successfully or not,. If it hasn't, maybe there's a problem with one of your sceneries (a corrupted .BGL, for example), so it cannot complete the regeneration, and it will start again on the next start.
If the cache regeneration has completed successfully, try to EXIT from FSX, wait a few seconds so you are sure it has closed correctly, then restart it. You should see the "Airport cache loaded successfully" message at startup now.
--- Quote ---Only then can I load PHNL without it crashing. Now tonight...yet ANOTHER Couatl update (really?? another??) and now FSX keeps crashing on exit. This time I got a message saying their was a problem with my FSUIPC module..REALLY??
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This clearly proves the problem doesn't have anything to do with us, since none of our modules use or interacts with FSUIPC.
--- Quote ---So I reinstalled the version of FSUIPC (same version already installed before) and no more message.
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This further clearly proves the problem didn't had anything to do with us, since it was fixed by reinstalling FSUIPC.
--- Quote ---Yet FSX still crashes on exit every time.
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Please indicate the precise, exact, text of the error message. And please indicate even if you don't see ANY error message. A silent crash with no messages is caused by having old and new files mixed together, and this might be caused by the antivirus or the firewall, which is blocking SOME of the files that are supposed to be updated, and let it pass some others, causing a total mess that will surely crash FSX with no error messages.
In this case, be sure you turn off the firewall, and reinstall the Stand-Alone Addon Manager for FSX only.
--- Quote ---I have never had any issues with Flightbeam, Fly-Tampa or any other add-ons except Couatl and FSDT.
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You said it...Flightbeam uses EXACTLY THE SAME FILES AS WE DO!! They use the precise, identical, exact, same version of Couatl we use with GSX, and their installers downloads the same files from the same location (OUR server), because WE MADE THE installers for Flightbeam!
Johan:
I am sorry to disagree. I desinstalled GSX and I don't have that problem anymore...
virtuali:
You are free to disagree as much as you want, but the fact stands, that FSUIPC is TOTALLY unrelated to us. In fact, what an FSUIPC crash might prove, is that you had ANOTHER problem that is *affecting* BOTH FSUIPC, and GSX.
Yes, I know it sound "logical" saying "I desinstalled GSX and I don't have that problem anymore", but that doesn't mean the problem IS *caused* by GSX, it only means that, if there's no GSX to call into sim features that normally should work, but don't (because of the problem that was ALSO affecting FSUIPC), you have no way to see the problem triggered, not that GSX is the *cause* for it.
Note that, some of the problems like libraries conflicts, due to different addons trying to use different version of the libraries at the same time, are sometimes only temporary, affecting a single FSX session so, it's possible that the problem that affected FSUIPC and GSX, could have been cured by simply restarting Windows.
Try to:
- Restart Windows
- Reinstall GSX now, to be absolutely sure you get all the current versions of the files, and be sure you TURN OFF FIREWALLS AND ANTIVIRUS, otherwise you might not get them (because they are mistakenly blocking the downloads).
You said you "updated 2 weeks ago" so, you are surely outdated by now, because we had updates in the last days.
crash77:
All I can tell you is that ever since this "live" update I have had problems, and yes I have the latest manager version downloaded. That's why I don't understand what it needed to "update." Now their is something very wrong here. My FSUIPC (latest version) keeps crashing FSX with an error message at start stating that their is a problem with the FSUIPC add-on. If I chose to run it with any FSDT product that install the COUATL manager it automatically crashes FSX to desktop. If I chose to run without COUATL manager installed the message still comes up on start, but allows me to run FSX. If I chose not to run the the FSUIPC add-on it will not load the module. All I did in the beginning was run the "live" update (when I already had the latest COUATL manager installed), and then this FSUIPC issue started. I'm not sure what the problem is or how to fix it, all I know is everything was working fine before I installed the "live" update. The only thing I can think of is the much dreaded fresh reinstall of FSX and all my add-ons. I'm not saying for fact it is any of your products causing this. But it all started when I started a flight in FSX and the COUATL "live" popped up and said to download the latest version....even though I already had v.3.0.0.9. installed. I even removed the FSX.cfg file and let it rebuild but no luck.
crash77:
I have contacted Pete of FSUIPC to see if he has any suggestions. I noticed from the FSUIPC download page it says that the current version is 4.946. Yet if you download the file it's version 4.947. Can someone confirm using both FSUIPC v4.947 and COUATL manager v.3.0.0.9. with FSX without any issues? Thanks.
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