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Crash Crash and more Crashes.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: crash77 on October 09, 2015, 02:31:58 pm ---All I can tell you is that ever since this "live" update I have had problems, and yes I have the latest manager version downloaded.
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Fact you downloaded the latest version, doesn't mean you have the latest version of the files, because the installer *downloads* them so, it doesn't matter when you download, it matters when you install it.
--- Quote ---That's why I don't understand what it needed to "update."
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The Live Update has a feature to display the release notes. They tell you what has been "updated".
--- Quote ---My FSUIPC (latest version) keeps crashing FSX with an error message at start stating that their is a problem with the FSUIPC add-on. If I chose to run it with any FSDT product that install the COUATL manager it automatically crashes FSX to desktop.
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Does this sentence means (it seem so) that: FSUIPC is displaying an error when "FSDT product that install the COUATL manager" (again, there's no such thing as a "Couatl manager" ) ? This CLEARLY indicates you have a problem, regardless if our modules are installed or not.
--- Quote ---If I chose to run it with any FSDT product that install the COUATL manager it automatically crashes FSX to desktop.
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If with "automatically crashes FSX to desktop" you mean a silent crash with no error message, this usually mean your firewall/antivirus is BLOCKING the correct update of our files, letting pass some of them, and blocking others. This is GUARANTEED to cause such crash.
The solution (assuming THIS is the "crash" you see now), as already indicated, is to run the Stand-Alone Addon Manager with the firewall and antivirus turned off.
--- Quote ---If I chose to run without COUATL manager installed the message still comes up on start, but allows me to run FSX. If I chose not to run the the FSUIPC add-on it will not load the module.
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Again, there's no such thing as the "Couatl manager". The message you see it's either about the "Addon Manager", which is a module OR the "Couatl scripting engine", which is an entirely different module.
What do you mean with " chose to run without COUATL manager installed ?
Do you mean:
- You have the <ManualLoad> setting in the EXE.XML, so you usually always see a *request* to start the Couatl SCRIPTING ENGINE at start, so you turn it down ?
OR
- You Unistalled GSX, so you are not running any of our modules
OR
- You see BOTH a request to run the "Couatl SCRIPTING ENGINE" AND another request to run the "Addon MANAGER" and you are replying NO to BOTH, so you are starting FSX without them ?
--- Quote --- All I did in the beginning was run the "live" update (when I already had the latest COUATL manager installed), and then this FSUIPC issue started.
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Again, we don't have any interaction with FSUIPC. Not only that. If with "Live Update" you mean the one the program says it can be applied without restarting FSX, it doesn't even *install* a new Couatl or a new Addon Manager! It JUST updates the GSX code, which run entirely separate from FSX, under you EXISTING Couatl.exe interpreter so "JUST" running the Live Update, by itself, CANNOT cause any problems with FSX or any of the 3rd party modules you might have installed.
If you seen this after the "Live Update", and only did THAT (running it), your FSUIPC issue doesn't have anything to do with it, and it happened at that time only by coincidence.
--- Quote --- But it all started when I started a flight in FSX and the COUATL "live" popped up and said to download the latest version....even though I already had v.3.0.0.9. installed. I even removed the FSX.cfg file and let it rebuild but no luck.
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We haven't done a MAJOR update. The MAJOR update is the one that tells you to EXIT from FSX and download and install the latest Stand-Alone Addon Manager. We ONLY made a minor update recently, the one that says you can apply it without restarting FSX.
So, either you weren't updating since several weeks, or you shouldn't have seen the MAJOR update prompt.
Not that this would cause in problems if you do. But if you do it, be sure you turn off all firewall and antivirus, otherwise it might not be downloaded correctly.
crash77:
Uhg man I don't know. This is very frustrating. I have no FSDT products installed and FSUIPC v 4.947 won't install without this error popping up now. I need to figure this out first, then deal with the FSDT install. The strange thing is I never had this error until I installed the COUATL stand alone manager 3.0.0.9. I didn't realize the "live" update was separate. Even so, I need to get FSUIPC working first. I do have firewall/defender turned off. Again can someone confirm using the latest FSUIPC without any issues in FSX (not FSX:SE)? It's version 4.947. Thanks.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: crash77 on October 09, 2015, 04:26:40 pm ---I have no FSDT products installed and FSUIPC v 4.947 won't install without this error popping up now. I need to figure this out first, then deal with the FSDT install.
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Just to be sure about this, do as follows:
- Install any FSDT product, not necessarily a product, just the Stand-Alone Addon Manager
- As soon as you installed it, go into the Windows Control Panel and remove it, and be sure you reply YES to these questions:
"Do you want to remove the Addon Manager ?"
"Do you want to remove the Couatl scripting engine ?"
THIS is a real removal, because it will also remove the modules so, if you are still are having issues with FSUIPC after this step, you can be sure the problem is happening entirely within FSUIPC and it's not, for example, an issue like a *conflict* with it and our modules, which I never heard of, but is not something that can be excluded.
crash77:
OK well this is exactly how I have removed the stand alone manager so strangely this has now somehow become A FSUIPC issue. I have sent Peter a message hopefully he will respond soon.
virtuali:
--- Quote from: crash77 on October 09, 2015, 08:00:39 pm ---OK well this is exactly how I have removed the stand alone manager so strangely this has now somehow become A FSUIPC issue.
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I asked because I wanted to be sure of it.
If this is the case, then Yes, I guarantee that, if you replied YES to both the above questions about removing the Addon Manager and the Couatl scripting engine, both modules are disabled from loading in the EXE/DLL.XML files and are also physically removed from the hard drive so there's no chance for them to still have any effect on FSX.
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