FSX crash near CYVR

[tiger7881]

First of all, I would like to thank this team for making fsx more enjoyable and more realistic, and aldo for your great efforts and great products. I bought a few products from here and they all do great! I am really enjoing, especially the GSX. My problems begins here : i had cyvr for a long time, it workes great! But recently when i would make a flight i.e cyyz to cyvr ( happened twice yesterday) as soon as i am approaching cyvr, passing the "BASRA" arrivle waypoint, and getting close the airport, the game crashes out of the sudden. It happened few times like that already. When i depart from cyvr, everything seems to be fine.

Can anyone help me out here? Please.

Thanks in advance !

[virtuali]

My problems begins here : i had cyvr for a long time, it workes great! But recently when i would make a flight i.e cyyz to cyvr ( happened twice yesterday) as soon as i am approaching cyvr, passing the "BASRA" arrivle waypoint, and getting close the airport, the game crashes out of the sudden.

Since the scenery used to work on your system and it hasn't changed, what's causing the crash is not the scenery but, most likely, some AI you have which started to appear only now (for example, because of different seasonal schedules).

If you enter the Window Event Viewer, you should be able to find in the Application log the details for the FSX crash, that would give more information about *what* really crashes.

[tiger7881]

Sure, but how can I open the window event viewer? where can i find it?

[virtuali]

In the Tools section of the Window Control Panel.

[tiger7881]

i doesnt really say anyting

Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
  <Provider Name="Desktop Window Manager" />
  <EventID Qualifiers="16384">9010</EventID>
  <Level>4</Level>
  <Task>0</Task>
  <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
  <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-12-08T00:23:42.000000000Z" />
  <EventRecordID>52696</EventRecordID>
  <Channel>Application</Channel>
  <Computer>Vlad-PC</Computer>
  <Security />
  </System>
- <EventData>
  <Data>Flight Simulator X v10.0.61472.0</Data>
  </EventData>
  </Event>

[Hnla]

i doesnt really say anyting

Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
  <Provider Name="Desktop Window Manager" />
  <EventID Qualifiers="16384">9010</EventID>
  <Level>4</Level>
  <Task>0</Task>
  <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
  <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-12-08T00:23:42.000000000Z" />
  <EventRecordID>52696</EventRecordID>
  <Channel>Application</Channel>
  <Computer>Vlad-PC</Computer>
  <Security />
  </System>
- <EventData>
  <Data>Flight Simulator X v10.0.61472.0</Data>
  </EventData>
  </Event>

Uh, no, that's not it, just download app crash view here:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/app_crash_view.html

[tiger7881]

Thank you,

I will try to do another flight from cyyz to cyvr and see if it crashes and i will report you back.

[tiger7881]

The game crashed again once I was near BASRA waypoint at 10000 ft approaching cyvr. The appcrash viewer doesnt show anything. The aivlasoftsoft EFB dataprovider showed corrupted memory. What is the reason for that? it never happened before.

[virtuali]

The game crashed again once I was near BASRA waypoint at 10000 ft approaching cyvr. The appcrash viewer doesnt show anything. The aivlasoftsoft EFB dataprovider showed corrupted memory. What is the reason for that? it never happened before.

The likely explanation is that you simply have run out of memory. As the previous poster suggested, there are so many forum posts about preventing OOMs, there's really no reason to repeat them again.

For example, here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,8472.msg69143.html#msg69143

[tiger7881]

Hm, Ok I will try ofcourse to lower settings. However, my rig is: i7 2400k 3.4 ghz, GeForce 680, 8 GIGs ram, some suff overclocked I am running liquid cooling on cpu. I have tons of addons, but for some reason the crash is near CYVR Only. EGLL by aerosoft is a heavy add-on as well, and I have low fps as soon as I approach it on the PMDG 737 or aerosoft airbus x but doesnt crash. The reason here, is I am flying with around 40 fps just above the mountains in vancuver, Passing MILLS wp, and as son as I am near BASRA around 10000ft near the vancuver downtown ( CYVR on the left) The game crashes out of the sudden. No indication in low FPS, everything goes smooth. But, the most important thing is, is I depart from CYVR to anywhere than everything is fine, game doesnt crash. So this happens only on approaches. Any other solutions?

I am running a high end rig here, around 40 fps in most of the places in the world.

Thanks again,

Tiger7881

[virtuali]

Hm, Ok I will try ofcourse to lower settings. However, my rig is: i7 2400k 3.4 ghz, GeForce 680, 8 GIGs ram, some suff overclocked I am running liquid cooling on cpu.

Your PC specs can't do anything to improve the absolute limit of 4GB of maximum available memory for a 32 bit app, like FSX.

Only. EGLL by aerosoft is a heavy add-on as well, and I have low fps as soon as I approach it on the PMDG 737 or aerosoft airbus x but doesnt crash. The reason here, is I am flying with around 40 fps just above the mountains in vancuver

Fps doesn't have anything to do with this. In fact, some ways to improve fps, will result in an higher memory usage so, a slow scenery with lots of legacy FS8 code like the one you mentioned, is to be expected to consume less memory than CYVR. But, of course, you CAN configure CYVR, using the texture size options during the installation page, which will give you an estimate each kind of texture is going to take.

I have tons of addons, but for some reason the crash is near CYVR Only

Again, this has been discussed and answered a lot in the past. Please read this:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,7842.msg64881.html#msg64881

and this:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,7881.msg65023.html#msg65023

The game crashes out of the sudden. No indication in low FPS, everything goes smooth. But, the most important thing is, is I depart from CYVR to anywhere than everything is fine, game doesn't crash.

That's an even more clear indication the airport doesn't have anything to do with it. If you are going there after a flight, FSX has accumulated memory exhaustion and possibly memory leaks along the time so, it has less memory available compared to when departing.

So this happens only on approaches. Any other solutions?

I've indicated several different solutions in my previous post:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,8472.msg69143.html#msg69143

[72westy]

Just a correction:

FSX itself does not have a 4GB limit of memory...the 32 bit OS has the limit of 4GB, actually more like 3.25-3.5 when one takes into consideration resources used (hardware). FSX is a 32bit program and will only use a max of 2GB (out of the remaining RAM). Windows 7 itself will eat up more than 1 GB easily. So if you start with 3.25 ~ 3.5GB you can see how easily an OOM will occur with FSX. One other thing, you don't even have to see he actual OOM window before you run out of memory in FSX (just as in your case). Switching to a 64 bit OS will help lower the likely hood of the OOM but you can still get one.

[virtuali]

FSX itself does not have a 4GB limit of memory...

Yes, it does, on a 64 bit version of Windows, of course.

the 32 bit OS has the limit of 4GB, actually more like 3.25-3.5 when one takes into consideration resources used (hardware).

We are assuming at this point that one will use FSX on a 64 bit Windows nowadays. Using FSX on a 32 bit Windows with modern video cards with 2GB or more, it's basically impossible. The OP didn't said anything about his Windows version but, since he said he has 8GB or RAM, I took for granted he's using a 64 bit version of Windows.

FSX is a 32bit program and will only use a max of 2GB (out of the remaining RAM).

Not exactly. FSX is a 32 bit program compiled with the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag, which means it CAN use more than 2GB. However, not much more of this can be available on 32 bit Windows.

[72westy]

FSX is a 32 bit native application, that means that it has a set max RAM limit or around 2 to 3Gb
If you are running a 64-bit version of WinXP, Vista (virus) or Win7, you can fit more applications into your 3Gb+ RAM, but if they are 32 bit applications, each separate app will have a max memory limit of around 2 to 3Gb.

[virtuali]

FSX is a 32 bit native application, that means that it has a set max RAM limit or around 2 to 3Gb.

No, FSX can address UP TO 4GB, on a 64 bit OS, but it will display its own "OOM" message before that, at around 3.7 GB.

If you use DX9, part of this memory will be taken by the VRAM allocation, because in DX9 the VRAM allocated is copied into the system RAM, but under DX10, it doesn't happen, so FSX itself can use up to 4GB, but you will see an "OOM" message before it will get a chance to crash, and will likely crash when 4GB are reached.

If you are running a 64-bit version of WinXP, Vista (virus) or Win7, you can fit more applications into your 3Gb+ RAM, but if they are 32 bit applications, each separate app will have a max memory limit of around 2 to 3Gb.

No. Under a 64 bit OS, applications that are compiled without the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag, can use exactly 2GB max. But applications (like FSX), that are compiled WITH the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag, can use up to 4GB, minus the memory used by the video card, but ONLY IN DX9.