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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: virtuali on October 26, 2011, 11:33:16 am
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CLICK HERE (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=49.195516067214655~-123.18461241128458&lvl=14&dir=0&sty=h&where1=Vancouver%2C%20BC&form=LMLTCC)
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Vancouver, fantastic :D
Good to go with you LAX scenery ;)
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It Would Be A Nice Flight From FlyTampa's Montreal When It Comes Out To Vancouver! Although, I Would Personally Prefer An Airport Such As Denver(DEN) Or Sarasota-Bradenton(SRQ). But, Vancouver Is Still Amazing!
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Oh YES!
Umberto, I have bought all your scenery's but if you make this one, I will haunt you till the day it's released ;D
I want it, I want it, I want it!!!
If you make it, can you please ensure compatibility with the OrbX Pacific Northwest and Pacific Fjords products?
Thanks
Best regards,
Frank
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If you make it, can you please ensure compatibility with the OrbX Pacific Northwest and Pacific Fjords products?
Absolutely. In fact, the availability of such products is what has made us decide on Vancouver, hopefully the combination of a good scenery with a good airport will lead more users to fly there, even if they might not consider that area otherwise.
It would also make it for a nice west coast line: FSDT KLAX-> Flightbeam KSFO->FSDT CYVR->Aerosoft PANC
Main reason we decided against KMIA in the end, was its too close proximity with KFLL. And Vancouver is WAY better, from a scenic point of view.
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If you make it, can you please ensure compatibility with the OrbX Pacific Northwest and Pacific Fjords products?
Absolutely. In fact, the availability of such products is what has made us decide on Vancouver, hopefully the combination of a good scenery with a good airport will lead more users to fly there, even if they might not consider that area otherwise.
It would also make it for a nice west coast line: FSDT KLAX-> Flightbeam KSFO->FSDT CYVR->Aerosoft PANC
Main reason we decided against KMIA in the end, was its too close proximity with KFLL. And Vancouver is WAY better, from a scenic point of view.
All solid reasons - I like how you are thinking in terms of connectivity to products from other developers. You are not letting others dictate your actions but you are recognizing when other developers create opportunities. CYVR really opens up the US from the north without having to deal with the performance issues in Seattle. I bet it will sell well. I bet a lot of Canadians will jump on it due to the fact that Canadian airports have been largely ignored until recently.
I also have PNW but have avoided purchasing other ORBX regions due to the lack of large airports. I am sure I am not alone. Hopefully we will see more airports in the ORBX regions - they have created an opportunity for many smaller developers that has not caught on for some reason. Out of curiosity, does the existence of ORBX scenery make it more difficult or less difficult to develop an airport? I would think less difficult because you would only have to focus on the airport and not the surrounding area. Of course, I am not a developer so I could be way off here and there is always the need to accomodate those that don't have ORBX products.
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If you make it, can you please ensure compatibility with the OrbX Pacific Northwest and Pacific Fjords products?
Absolutely. In fact, the availability of such products is what has made us decide on Vancouver, hopefully the combination of a good scenery with a good airport will lead more users to fly there, even if they might not consider that area otherwise.
It would also make it for a nice west coast line: FSDT KLAX-> Flightbeam KSFO->FSDT CYVR->Aerosoft PANC
Main reason we decided against KMIA in the end, was its too close proximity with KFLL. And Vancouver is WAY better, from a scenic point of view.
Virtuali,
I wanted to express my thank you for considering a Canadian airport! Thank you so much.
This airport would fit in perfectly with PNW and other addon’s such as Vancouver+ Scenery. I really look forward to seeing the screen shots! I fly into CYVR every 2 weeks. It's a fantastic airport!
Thanks again for everything you do.
Cheers,
Tino
CYYC
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Thank you FSDT!!
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Great news, Canada is in desperate need of sceneries for the FS world, finally they are getting the attention they deserve. This will be a great scenery, can't wait to see the previews.
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YES YES TO FSX/FS9 CYVR. I usually read posts rather than write but I won't pass up on this one. Being from Vancouver and living abroad for the past few years, this is incredible news (yes I miss home but you're already making it better). Plus we don't get too many top-rated scenery developers venturing into the North so this is huge. First FT announced Montreal, now this. Luvin it!! Oh I can't wait to virtually fly home. FSDT you rock. Can't thank you enough. Cheers from HK. ;D ;D
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Damn I hope KLAX for sells like WILDFIRE! I have been needing CYVR for YEARS!!!! GREAT CHOICE!!! And for us FS9ners, we also have the legendary FZ Portland too! Now all we need is a good KSAN and KGEG and the West Coast will be complete... (for the most part)
For us FS9ners, will it be compatable with Vancouver+?
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CLICK HERE (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=49.195516067214655~-123.18461241128458&lvl=14&dir=0&sty=h&where1=Vancouver%2C%20BC&form=LMLTCC)
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Very Interesting choice Umberto hope it works out well will be fun to fly into cyvr Canada has been lacking good quality airports for a long time now.
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If you make it, can you please ensure compatibility with the OrbX Pacific Northwest and Pacific Fjords products?
Absolutely. In fact, the availability of such products is what has made us decide on Vancouver, hopefully the combination of a good scenery with a good airport will lead more users to fly there, even if they might not consider that area otherwise.
It would also make it for a nice west coast line: FSDT KLAX-> Flightbeam KSFO->FSDT CYVR->Aerosoft PANC
Main reason we decided against KMIA in the end, was its too close proximity with KFLL. And Vancouver is WAY better, from a scenic point of view.
Great! Thank you!
The suspense for release is already getting to me ;D
Regards,
Frank
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For us FS9ners, will it be compatable with Vancouver+?
Didn't he previously state that LAX would most likely be the final FS9 version? Probably even more so, with Lockheed Martin releasing Prepar3D...
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Didn't he previously state that LAX would most likely be the final FS9 version? Probably even more so, with Lockheed Martin releasing Prepar3D...
And so it begins...
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Whow ... good news ... since I am flightsimming I wait for Vancouver. Although I run FSX I hope for a FS9 - version also to complete my FS9 - world!
Very good decision !!
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Wow, what a surprise.
This will be good news for all those folks that have been begging for Canadian airports and for all those people who love flying in the PNW. Although I will probably skip this one since I am not enamoured with that area and it a little on the Hawaiin side for me as far as being out of the way, it will probably be a good seller none the less. Kind of surprised that KPDX was choosen for an airport in that area since so many people who love the PNW have been wanting an FSX version since ORBX decided to drop it and the Flightzone FS9 version doesn't port over completely
I am interested to see what the next airport will be after Vancouver. Still hoping we get to see a better KDEN that what Imaginesim did, or a Houston, Minneapolis, Detroit, or something for the Baltimore/Washington, D.C area like KDCA since the C9 version wont work in FSX or maybe even a KBWI.
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Wow, what a surprise.
This will be good news for all those folks that have been begging for Canadian airports and for all those people who love flying in the PNW. Although I will probably skip this one since I am not enamoured with that area and it a little on the Hawaiin side for me as far as being out of the way, it will probably be a good seller none the less. Kind of surprised that KPDX was choosen for an airport in that area since so many people who love the PNW have been wanting an FSX version since ORBX decided to drop it and the Flightzone FS9 version doesn't port over completely
I am interested to see what the next airport will be after Vancouver. Still hoping we get to see a better KDEN that what Imaginesim did, or a Houston, Minneapolis, Detriot, or something for the Baltimore/Washington, D.C area like KDCA since the C9 version wont work in FSX or maybe even a KBWI.
Right there with you on DCA. BWI would also be nice but SAN and DCA are the two airports I want the most these days. I just love flying in to densely populated areas.
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Right there with you on DCA. BWI would also be nice but SAN and DCA are the two airports I want the most these days. I just love flying in to densely populated areas.
Yep, I would love to have an FSDT ro FT re-boot of KSAN. I wish the C9 DCA would get an FSX conversion even if it lacked custom runway and taxiway textures like KMCO, I would still buy it. There is that other guy, not Cielosim, who is doing an FSX version of KSAN. It looks ok, but not on the same level of FSDT, FT, or FB.
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Hey, Umberto!
A magnificent choice to select Vancouver for your next masterpiece. (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/VORJAB/applause2.gif)
Even though I will not enjoy it (FS9 only here), I am very happy about all FSXers to have Vancouver Intl finally.
And once again thank you for Los Angeles.
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Hey, Umberto!
A magnificent choice to select Vancouver for your next masterpiece. (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/VORJAB/applause2.gif)
Even though I will not enjoy it (FS9 only here), I am very happy about all FSXers to have Vancouver Intl finally.
And once again thank you for Los Angeles.
Even though I switched to FSX last year, I still hope for a fs9 version. Even if they dont, I hope you can enjoy it on FSX somtime in the future :)
Cheers,
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Excellent news!
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Holy moly! I never expected that decision! Fantastic news! Great choice! Finally, Canada gets the treatment it deserves. Whooohooo! :)
(...and, now that KLAX made it to FS9, I silently hope CYVR will make it as well. Hopefully sales of KLAX for FS9 will support that step)
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Wow!!! This will be amazing!!! All I can say is this... Thanks a whole world for FS9 KLAX... I would like an FS9 version of YVR but if you see it in your hearts you want to move on to FSX/P3D only... Its fine by me ;)
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Although I would have preferred an airport like KATL, Vancouver did win the secondary poll and is one beautiful airport (also surrounded by beautiful scenery). I look forward to seeing it develop and making a choice whether or not to purchase it. Right now I am not sure if I will buy it because it seems a bit out of the way for me... but I'm sure fsdt will pull me over ;).
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Great news, i love to fly in this area ever since FTX covered it. And until now I'm really missing a detailed airport able to handle my NGX. I'm sure many FTX users will keep a close look on this development.
However, there is one big concern: FPS. The area around Vancouver is already with the default/FTX settings quite heavy on FPS. I know you have a lot of experience with high demanding environments like KDFW, KORD and KLAX and always found a nice compromise between FPS and details, so I'm sure that you will keep this in mind and find a solution.
I posted this great news over at the FTX Forums and ORBX CEO John wrote that he very much welcomes FSDT for making a detailed airport within FTX and he would fully support it. Maybe you can get in touch and work together, so that many simmers can fly the cute little WestJet736 in and out of this great airport without it being a slide-show!
Here's the link for the FTX Forum (only for registered memebers): http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/38430-cyvr-is-coming/
Thanks,
Chris
PS: Will the small Vancouver International Water Airport (CAM9) just south of CYVR be included as well? This would be awesome for many Bush pilots....
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Awesome news! Finally a megahub for Orbx PNW, my home region! Looking forward to the first backdoor shots :D
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Most excellent.
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Please put some great looking docks and buildings at the water terminals. For float planes. Maybe some birds?
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Its good news but I think you should have gone for LIRF as you would noy have had to compete with another developer. http://jgabbert.wordpress.com/
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Its good news but I think you should have gone for LIRF as you would noy have had to compete with another developer. http://jgabbert.wordpress.com/
As mentioned they dont do Italian airports because they like to make money. Surely they aren't concerened about competing with the guy in the link you gave. I never knew about that project, but the last update was in June and nothing has surfaced since then.
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Its good news but I think you should have gone for LIRF as you would noy have had to compete with another developer. http://jgabbert.wordpress.com/
As mentioned they dont do Italian airports because they like to make money. Surely they aren't concerened about competing with the guy in the link you gave. I never knew about that project, but the last update was in June and nothing has surfaced since then.
Funny thing is I was watching reruns of the Ray Romano show last night and the episode was about them going to Italy then before that day I went to this good Italian restaurant and they had a nice photo of Rome I was like damn would be awesome to have fsdt LIRF but it has been talked about allot of times over the years and understand that its not financially possible right now and I know that they would love too do it one day.
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As mentioned they dont do Italian airports because they like to make money
Is there any contradition here (Italy vs money)?
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Our last two large sceneries, KDFW and KLAX, were both recently released by another developer, but we could't really tell, from sales. Not even Zurich sales were down after the Aerosoft release, they rather increased, since we update it and lowered its price...so I guess we should know by now how to compete both against large or small developers.
No, the only competion CYVR will have, is with ourselves because, we pushed the limit so high with KLAX, that it would be difficult to do better, but we already have some ideas...
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I'm not happy with this CYVR news. :'(
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Our last two large sceneries, KDFW and KLAX, were both recently released by another developer, but we could't really tell, from sales. Not even Zurich sales were down after the Aerosoft release, they rather increased, since we update it and lowered its price...so I guess we should know by now how to compete both against large or small developers.
No, the only competion CYVR will have, is with ourselves because, we pushed the limit so high with KLAX, that it would be difficult to do better, but we already have some ideas...
;D. Also, Umberto, how will the development of CYVR affect GSX and the airport updates (Zurich, O'hare, Kennedy, etc.)?
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GSX won't be affected, because it's being made by different people, and the updates for KORD and Zurich will be released before we start working on CYVR. As I've said earlier, there will not be a new FSDT scenery for a while, we just decide to say which one will be...
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Sweet! This is going to be awesome, especially if you have Orbx PNW! :D
Thankyou FSDT!
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This is great news. 2 Canadian Airports now r going to be done by 2 great developers. 2012 will be a great year for Canadian scenery.
Thanks FSDT I am really looking forward to this release.
William Coade
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Thanks for the reply Umberto; I am very much looking forward to that.
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Wow! This is fantastic news!! With Orbx PNW, Jon Patches Vancouver + city/area scenery (http://jonpatch.wordpress.com/) and FSDT CYVR on top - the area will be one of the most enhanced in the FS world... Looking forward to it!
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PS: Will the small Vancouver International Water Airport (CAM9) just south of CYVR be included as well? This would be awesome for many Bush pilots....
Would be great to see the South Terminal included!!!! And if GSX could do this =>>> ......
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Just wondering about the @release date. :)
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Just wondering about the @release date. :)
When they finish it. :)
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Wow! This is fantastic news!! With Orbx PNW, Jon Patches Vancouver + city/area scenery (http://jonpatch.wordpress.com/) and FSDT CYVR on top - the area will be one of the most enhanced in the FS world... Looking forward to it!
The FPS should be about 5 with all of these addons at CYVR.
Michael Cubine
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This is great news. 2 Canadian Airports now r going to be done by 2 great developers. 2012 will be a great year for Canadian scenery.
Thanks FSDT I am really looking forward to this release.
William Coade
I totally agree with you! Cant wait! Us Canadian's have been waiting for a LONG time!
Cheers,
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Wow! This is fantastic news!! With Orbx PNW, Jon Patches Vancouver + city/area scenery (http://jonpatch.wordpress.com/) and FSDT CYVR on top - the area will be one of the most enhanced in the FS world... Looking forward to it!
The FPS should be about 5 with all of these addons at CYVR.
Michael Cubine
Unfortunately I do agree. Although I own Vancouver +, I had slideshow level performance with it 2 machines back. With my current i7 950, I have just gone with Orbx PNW, and have not installed Van +. I am hoping that Orbx and FSDT CYVR will still be doable - I think it would take a very high end and very optimized system to run all 3 - but if it was possible - I am sure it would look great!
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NICE!!!!
One of the best airports I have ever flown to, in one of the best cities in the world! Thank you, Umberto!
Now if someone could only do a good set of KBLI, then my Western Canadian hops would never enter US airspace! :D
BL.
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Although Vancouver wasn't my first choice, I think it is a very good choice. After it's released, I hope you might consider Portland for FSX. I still think of it as the best airport scenery ever produced in FS9 and have seen a lot of interest expressed for an FSX Portland on various forums. Portland would fit perfectly between Vancouver and San Francisco for short to medium range flights, adding even more interest to LAX to almost complete covering the entire West Coast.
Just thought I'd plant a few very early seeds for thought.
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GSX won't be affected, because it's being made by different people, and the updates for KORD and Zurich will be released before we start working on CYVR. As I've said earlier, there will not be a new FSDT scenery for a while, we just decide to say which one will be...
Somewhat glad to hear that! KORD is a beautiful scenery, but having it upgraded to your more current standard would be awesome. Here's hoping performance at KORD will be a bit more like at KLAX...
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I'm not interested in Vancouver at all. So I guess I am going to skip this one.
I would have loved to see KMIA. I guess no developer is up to the challenge to make a good KMIA.
Jon
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As far as I know, LatinVFR is making a quite good KMIA?
http://www.flycay.com/forums/showthread.php?4138-LatinVFR-presents...-its-next-scenery!-(video)
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Well, the quality doesn't blow me away. But I guess the fact that it's going to be AES-compatible does make it interesting for me. Thanks for pointing it out.
Let's just say it's better than the default scenery and probably the only reasonable one we're ever going to see for KMIA for FSX.
Jon
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How could I possibly be so late on this????? Oh wow, this is the best news I've heard every since LAX!!!!!!!! At last a decent airport for our beautiful Canada!!!! which by the way is in need of an airport BAD, big time. I can't wait!!!
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Nice i've had voted for Vancouver ;D
I have purchased almost all FSDT except Hawaiian island
But i think i'll not get this one if there's no AES support like LAX
I'm very disapointed for this !! i think the scene is dead, there is no life on "tarmac" and it's a shame cuz IT IS THE BEST FSDT ACHIEVMENT ;)
Regards
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I'm very disapointed for this !! i think the scene is dead, there is no life on "tarmac" and it's a shame cuz IT IS THE BEST FSDT ACHIEVMENT ;)
Regards
Guess you haven't heard about GSX which will be free for all the FSDT airports, FSX only though.
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Much closer down the line, I'm looking forward to the looooooooooooooog awaited update for O'Hare :) Vancouver is an Excellent choice for its location( Still in North America and the western coast of Canada) and being a hub for Canada Airlines. 8)
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Although Vancouver wasn't my first choice, I think it is a very good choice. After it's released, I hope you might consider Portland for FSX. I still think of it as the best airport scenery ever produced in FS9 and have seen a lot of interest expressed for an FSX Portland on various forums. Portland would fit perfectly between Vancouver and San Francisco for short to medium range flights, adding even more interest to LAX to almost complete covering the entire West Coast.
Just thought I'd plant a few very early seeds for thought.
Great observation! The PDX addon for FS9 was outstanding, and I counted it as a real loss when I transitioned from FS9 to FSX. PDX would be at the top of my list for near-future development for FSX, especially by a top-drawer developer such as FSDT -- and it would be a great link for other quality West Coast addons such as LAX, SFO, CYVR and LAS. Hope you'll consider it!
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Great observation! The PDX addon for FS9 was outstanding, and I counted it as a real loss when I transitioned from FS9 to FSX. PDX would be at the top of my list for near-future development for FSX, especially by a top-drawer developer such as FSDT -- and it would be a great link for other quality West Coast addons such as LAX, SFO, CYVR and LAS. Hope you'll consider it!
Flightzone KPDX and FlyTampa St. Maarten were my two favorite sceneries for FS9. I was really impressed with both but the Flightzone KPDX really blew me away at the time it was released.
Frankly, thru the years as many people I have seen talk about or request KPDX, both in the ORBX forum and in other FS forums, I am surprised that FSDT did choose to do it for thier first PNW airport, especially since ORBX killed that project. Personally, I would buy KPDX the day it came out even though I dont fly that area often, its a pretty FPS friendly area and would be nice to have a Flightzone replacement.
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YVR, it's no YYZ... WHO CARES! hey, I got to support the home team airport lol. But hands down YVR is probably the most beautiful airport in Canada, quite Canuckish....... and the CANUC1 arrival is probably the most scenic and beautiful arrivals in North America DUUUUH, I'd love to be proven wrong on that one Grin
Thank you Thank you Thank you. I can feel a snow fall coming on...
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I'm also disgusted with all the users on this forum showing detest of this scenery choice. Over the years, FSDT has been pushing out top quality sceneries for airports all over the world. I have quite the collection myself. I do tend to stick to North America with my FSing, but FSDT has also shown me a world outside of NA, airports like Zurich, Geneva, even the HI islands. I have adapted to making the 5hr+ flight out to the pacific just so I can witness the beautiful sceneries FSDT has put forth. Yes we know the US has probably 3 major airports in every state (sooo many great ones to choose from;)) while Canada only has 3 Major Airports Nationwide. And meanwhile, the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print Sceneries, that look like the airports have been made with a bunch of card board boxes.
Thanks for throwing us back our hockey puck FSDT. Keep em' coming.
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the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print Sceneries, that look like the airports have been made with a bunch of card board boxes.
AAhhhh hah!!! hahah!!!! Stupid Blueprint!! So true!! :D
Cardboard boxes and Hotwheels... LOL!!!
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I'd Say team 1 CYVR and CYYZ team 1 , 2 amazing airports , WestJet destinations plus PMDG NGX = beaucoup, en grande quantité $$$$
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beaucoup, en grande quantité $$$$
I hope they will accept Canadian Tire Money! :D
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..the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print
And why does everything have to be payware? Plenty of free Canadian scenery available.
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..the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print
And why does everything have to be payware? Plenty of free Canadian scenery available.
I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
I'm sure it has something to do with Accuracy, Quality and Recentcy right???
And how do you justify the fact that in the past decade there has been only TWO payware sceneries available for Canada?
Have you alerted FSDT that there a bunch of free alternatives to their sceneries? That might be bad for competition... ;D
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..the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print
And why does everything have to be payware? Plenty of free Canadian scenery available.
I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
I'm sure it has something to do with Accuracy, Quality and Recentcy right???
And how do you justify the fact that in the past decade there has been only TWO payware sceneries available for Canada?
Have you alerted FSDT that there a bunch of free alternatives to their sceneries? That might be bad for competition... ;D
Well said!
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..the only payware that has been made available to us are the projects submitted by Blue Print
And why does everything have to be payware? Plenty of free Canadian scenery available.
I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
I'm sure it has something to do with Accuracy, Quality and Recentcy right???
And how do you justify the fact that in the past decade there has been only TWO payware sceneries available for Canada?
Have you alerted FSDT that there a bunch of free alternatives to their sceneries? That might be bad for competition... ;D
Well said!
Ditto. But he is a fan of Blueprint so I would take him too seriously... ;)
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I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
My logic is you canucks are whining like your country has no scenery, and I'm pointing out that there is plenty of scenery for you to use besides Blueprint, which I am NOT a fan of, despite what newmanix may lead you to believe. If you choose to not use what is available, then don't whine about having nothing.
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I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
My logic is you canucks are whining like your country has no scenery, and I'm pointing out that there is plenty of scenery for you to use besides Blueprint, which I am NOT a fan of, despite what newmanix may lead you to believe. If you choose to not use what is available, then don't whine about having nothing.
Bruce,
The only scenery that was available was Simflyers CYYZ for the FS2002 platform. (dont get me wrong, there are lots of freeware scenery, but nothing for major airports) I would reframe form bashing Canadians as I take it personally. The US has tons of wonderful scenery. It’s about time that a "high quality" developer completes something for us. Open your eyes. It's not just about the USA or Europe. Canada is a country too. It's quite amusing to hear that we "whine". I can pull numerous posts of yours that clearly show that you like to whine yourself, even over US airports. (Which has many to choose from). So please stop the criticism towards a nation and play fare, mmk?
Thanks for your understanding,
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I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
My logic is you canucks are whining like your country has no scenery, and I'm pointing out that there is plenty of scenery for you to use besides Blueprint, which I am NOT a fan of, despite what newmanix may lead you to believe. If you choose to not use what is available, then don't whine about having nothing.
That's a bit over the top there Bruce. I don't particularly think that those of us expressing appreciation to FSDT on the YVR announcement, coupled with mentioning that there is not a lot of quality Canadian scenery constitutes 'whining'. Probably best to refrain from such negative comments unless you are simply bored and trolling for a reaction.
On the CDN scenery topic - for payware, other than blueprint (which I have stayed away from as well), simaddons has a series that is very nice - Halifax, St Johns, Ottawa, Kelowna. I have Halifax and Ottawa, considering Kelowna to round out some WestJet routes with the NGX. There is an abundance of FS9 scenery, but quite limited on the FSX front. I have not come across anything for major airports in AB/Sask/Man - Calgary, Regina, Saskatoon, Winnipeg. Orbx has spruced up BC & into southern Alberta with PNW/PFJ/NR regions. Vancouver + is nice, but too heavy on the frames for my liking. Have not tried the freeware Victoria + yet as PNW itself works for me (but with Don Grovestine, Jon Patch and Holger Sandmann behind it, it must look nice). Avsim file lib. has a lot of smaller airports. I think we are pretty fortunate to be getting attention from the likes of FSDT, FT with Montreal, and Orbx with regions and a few smaller airports. An update to FSX for an AES supported CYYZ (Toronto) would be icing on the cake!
- Jim
(Vancouver, BC)
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I'm very disapointed for this !! i think the scene is dead, there is no life on "tarmac" and it's a shame cuz IT IS THE BEST FSDT ACHIEVMENT ;)
Regards
Guess you haven't heard about GSX which will be free for all the FSDT airports, FSX only though.
Yes i have but currently, GSX isn't available, meanwhile i would appreciate to be able to use AES
Regards
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I just love to watch in this forum certain members who's only joy in life is to figure out the next move to make them look more 'tuff', "smart', and more arrogant. This philosophies and theories about Canada having lots of available scenarios are simply bogus. And FSDT's choice could not have been better, thanks for listening to your fans!!!
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finally some love comes our way. very much looking forward to this. CYYZ next ;)
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This philosophies and theories about Canada having lots of available scenarios are simply bogus.
Bogus, huh? :o
http://www.freewarescenery.com/fsx/canada.html
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This philosophies and theories about Canada having lots of available scenarios are simply bogus.
Bogus, huh? :o
http://www.freewarescenery.com/fsx/canada.html
Bruce,
Once again. This is not the point! We know there are many freeware sceneries out there. How about good quality payware scenery? EH? Seems like you are unable to grasp the point.
Thanks again for your Freeware list. I know you may be a little upset that Canada gets some attention. Time to keep the chin up and accept it. mmmkkk?
I bet you will change your mind once you see FSDT CYVR with Orbx PNW and Vancouver +. It will be amazing.
Cheers,
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I know you may be a little upset that Canada gets some attention. Time to keep the chin up and accept it.
I could not care less if Canada gets attention, just gives me another country to fly into. Since I already own PNW, I have every intention of adding YVR when it gets released. When FlyTampa finishes Montreal, I'll probably buy that as well.
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I do not understand your logic? Thats like saying why make any airport, if there's plenty of freeware available???
My logic is you canucks are whining like your country has no scenery, and I'm pointing out that there is plenty of scenery for you to use besides Blueprint, which I am NOT a fan of, despite what newmanix may lead you to believe. If you choose to not use what is available, then don't whine about having nothing.
The fact that you believe Blueprint is a scenery developer means you ARE a fan of them... ::) I however think they are a poop developer that develops realistic poop for Microsoft FS2004 and FSX. :D See I didn't use a bad word there which I prefer to have used. :-*
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I know you may be a little upset that Canada gets some attention. Time to keep the chin up and accept it.
I could not care less if Canada gets attention, just gives me another country to fly into. Since I already own PNW, I have every intention of adding YVR when it gets released. When FlyTampa finishes Montreal, I'll probably buy that as well.
Then SHUT that hole in your face! ;D
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Let's keep our sticks on the ice lads.
We all have opinions - Bruce - if yours is summed up by "I could not care less if Canada gets attention", then why even participate in the dialogue? (and really, you don't NEED to answer that).
The fact remains that FSDT will deliver YVR, and Fly Tampa is working on Montreal - great news to many of us. It does seem unusual to have two of the most respected development shops working on Canadian Airports at the same time. For those that are not pleased, trying to influence what comes after that would be more constructive than arguing over decisions already made - but that's just my opinion, and does not account for those that are just out for a troll....
- Jim
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Let's keep our sticks on the ice lads.
We all have opinions - Bruce - if yours is summed up by "I could not care less if Canada gets attention", then why even participate in the dialogue? (and really, you don't NEED to answer that).
The fact remains that FSDT will deliver YVR, and Fly Tampa is working on Montreal - great news to many of us. It does seem unusual to have two of the most respected development shops working on Canadian Airports at the same time. For those that are not pleased, trying to influence what comes after that would be more constructive than arguing over decisions already made - but that's just my opinion, and does not account for those that are just out for a troll....
- Jim
I agree. Canada is finally getting the respect it deserves in scenery development. And the sales of these 2 airports will dictate if we get more canadian airports from QUALITY developers. Because honestly, I would love to see Toronto up next and this one: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2871/cywgmar2409.jpg
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Would love to see Winnipeg as well! Calgary and Regina (or Saskatoon) would round it out nicely. I think it would be more likely that someone like simaddons would take up the mid-tiers though. I do like his work - not as polished as FSDT or FlyTampa, but full of features and well supported.
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Wow what a surPrise!
This was not exPected! Great choice :)
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I have never been this excited for an FSX scenery before. From Vancouver, I love the airport and absolutely can't wait. For FS9 users, jgabbert is coming out with a scenery as well, but this is going to be amazing. There is so many possible flights from CYVR, I have been waiting for two years for an awesome FSX Vancouver scenery. If there were any scenery makers to make the scenery, I would definitely pick you guys! Thank you so much!
;D ;D :D :)
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I'm sure it has something to do with Accuracy, Quality and Recentcy right???
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The fact that you believe Blueprint is a scenery developer means you ARE a fan of them...
The now defunct Simflyers were developers, doesn't mean I'm a fan. The term "fan" is short for fanatic, if I were a Blueprint fanatic, I would own everything they produce.
Then SHUT that hole in your face!
Maybe you should practice what you preach, newmanix. If you'd stop attacking everything I post, like you do with James Chams, I wouldn't have to defend myself.
Bruce - if yours is summed up by "I could not care less if Canada gets attention", then why even participate in the dialogue? (and really, you don't NEED to answer that).
Ah... yes I do. The above comment I made to newmanix applies to you as well. If you don't want the response, then stay off your keyboard.
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I just wanna say that CYVR is a scenery that is needed yes there may be a few scenery's for Canada free and payware but not high quality the top guys for scenery that are the best in the business to me are fsdt flytampa flightbeam simwings orbx and a very few others I haven't mentioned and its good that we have at least 2 scenery's for Canada coming up one now from fsdt and the other from flytampa which we all know will be very high quality. :)
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The fact that you believe Blueprint is a scenery developer means you ARE a fan of them...
The now defunct Simflyers were developers, doesn't mean I'm a fan. The term "fan" is short for fanatic, if I were a Blueprint fanatic, I would own everything they produce.
Then SHUT that hole in your face!
Maybe you should practice what you preach, newmanix. If you'd stop attacking everything I post, like you do with James Chams, I wouldn't have to defend myself.
Bruce - if yours is summed up by "I could not care less if Canada gets attention", then why even participate in the dialogue? (and really, you don't NEED to answer that).
Ah... yes I do. The above comment I made to newmanix applies to you as well. If you don't want the response, then stay off your keyboard.
Chill Bruce. Leave the flame wars to the kids and enjoy the simulation.
- J
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The fact that you believe Blueprint is a scenery developer means you ARE a fan of them...
The now defunct Simflyers were developers, doesn't mean I'm a fan. The term "fan" is short for fanatic, if I were a Blueprint fanatic, I would own everything they produce.
Then SHUT that hole in your face!
Maybe you should practice what you preach, newmanix. If you'd stop attacking everything I post, like you do with James Chams, I wouldn't have to defend myself.
Bruce - if yours is summed up by "I could not care less if Canada gets attention", then why even participate in the dialogue? (and really, you don't NEED to answer that).
Ah... yes I do. The above comment I made to newmanix applies to you as well. If you don't want the response, then stay off your keyboard.
There is a reason you feel you need to defend your posts. Now I wonder why that is Bruce?? Because I am not the only person you are defending your posts against. You are blaming the Canadians of whinning all the while YOU are the one whinning and contridicting yourself.
Actually, yes, you are starting to sound like James indeed... And the last time I checked, the entire FSDT and FT forum population attacked James on those recockulous posts of his... He got himself baned. That was not my doing. Try to be a little smarter here Bruce. Please. From your avatar picture, you should have enough years of exprence in this world to know when YOU are the one that should be checking himself. And not just the diaper. ;D
So if you don't like MY posts then stay off YOUR keyboard ::)
You see Bruce, even others are telling you to chill. So please do so.
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Bruce, thanks for those links; I did not know about so many amateur poorly designed add ons! Wow. I would not waste my time and disk space in such files. I am so happy FSDT is making this airport!!!
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I do not get why there is so much controversy over this announcement. FSDT does international hubs - usually in North America. Canada has very few high quality airport scenery add ons. CYVR seems like a logical choice. Maybe CYYZ, KIAH or KMIA would have been a better choice but its not like they picked UG29 or something.
And yes, Canada has gotten the shaft on scenery. I'd love to see scenery for Edmonton, Calgary or even some places way up north like Whitehorse, Yellowknife or Iqaluit. Sure, they may not be FSDT's cup of tea but they would make for some interesting flights - especially in the winter. Nonetheless, the US, Mexico and the Caribbean have a lot of scenery for FSX and it is about time that Canada gets some love.
Although I know FSDT would do a better job at MIA, LatinVFR's will be released sooner. I would buy theirs first and there is a good chance that I would skip FSDT's MIA after purchasing the LatinVFR version. I'll replace a Blueprint or a freeware airport but LatinVFR's stuff is usually in the ballpark. In fact, I can't think of one LatinVFR airport that I currently own that I would replace unless a lot of work went in to the surrounding area.
Lastly, FSDT has been pretty successful in this business and it would be nice if some individuals would give them the benefit of the doubt. They know what is best for their company. I want them to succeed and I believe they know how to do it.
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I really think that fsdt and flytampa are going to be surprised by there venture into Canadian territory, just like in hockey when there is only one Canadian team left in the playoffs the whole country rally's behind it so to will every Canadian fs enthusiast rally behind there scenery, but time will tell I suppose, My only concern/question to fsdt is what song are you going to pick for Vancouver? I really love how you guys do that.
Ian
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I really think that fsdt and flytampa are going to be surprised by there venture into Canadian territory, just like in hockey when there is only one Canadian team left in the playoffs the whole country rally's behind it so to will every Canadian fs enthusiast rally behind there scenery, but time will tell I suppose, My only concern/question to fsdt is what song are you going to pick for Vancouver? I really love how you guys do that.
Ian
And then when their hockey team loses to the Bruins they torch their city. ;)
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I really think that fsdt and flytampa are going to be surprised by there venture into Canadian territory, just like in hockey when there is only one Canadian team left in the playoffs the whole country rally's behind it so to will every Canadian fs enthusiast rally behind there scenery, but time will tell I suppose, My only concern/question to fsdt is what song are you going to pick for Vancouver? I really love how you guys do that.
Ian
And then when their hockey team loses to the Bruins they torch their city. ;)
That was strickly due to the idiots who planned the riots at the time. It made our whole country look bad. Regardless, YVR will be my #1 Airport to fly in FSX :)
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Virtuali , I am with hope that you will venture out of the , ( airport only scenery policy ), and we will see some of the great city and water ways that surround the airport.
Thank you :)
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Virtuali , I am with hope that you will venture out of the , ( airport only scenery policy ), and we will see some of the great city and water ways that surround the airport.
This would be the last place we would even think about modeling anything outside the airport, given the availability of several addons enhancing the area, which are only missing the airport.
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Great that all i have to say GREAT!!!!!!!!( no fs9 whatever I'll on FSX as soon as I strat back working again)
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This would be the last place we would even think about modeling anything outside the airport, given the availability of several addons enhancing the area, which are only missing the airport.
You make a great point. I was really hoping that CYYZ was going to be the Canadian airport of choice for FSDT. Making that statment really put its into prospective. That area only needs CYVR airport done and the whole area will be top of the scenery, from the city to the landscape to the airport. You guys could not have picked a better airport to do.
All the best and keep up the great work!!!
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Thank You!! My home airport will given the makeover it needs! Look forward to it.
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Yes I guess Orbx will have the addon scenery needed around the airport. Thanks
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again wonderful choice you made for your next project!
As you are beginning to tackle these ORBX areas head on, is there any chance that you might have a go at Sydney.
I know it's well of your normal region, but FTX officially abandoned these major airports, a while back.
Adelaide, Perth and Darwin have equally been canceled.
Soon to be released is their major project for the north and south islands of New Zealand, so here we at least would be missing Auckland and Christchurch!
All the best! And thank you for all that you are doing for the simming community!
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Fantastic a Canadian airport, good choice CYVR. Maybe CYYZ after
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Hey guys. First of all I'd like to say how thrilled I am with your choice to do Vancouver Intl as your next scenery, as it is my home base. :)
I do have a quick question... over the next few years, YVR will go through many changes including, a proposed new runway, a new terminal, and improved taxiways. The main improvement will be the construction of the "north-south taxiway" that will go over the road leading to YVR's main terminal. I'm guessing this won't be in the initial release, but I am wondering if there could be future updates when it all happens.
All this info can be found in this handy little pdf...
http://204.239.248.25/yourairport2027/pdf/yvr_masterplan.pdf
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Thank you !!
Nice to have my home airport on the FS map. And with ORBX PNW we will finally have somethign that can match FS9's Flight Zone 02.
Great, great news !!
-Sorry for being almost 2 months late in congratulating you on such a decision ;)
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Wait...so will Vancouver be developed just for FSX or for FS9 as well? Umberto, do you have the data on how the sales of the FS9 LAX are doing? I read somewhere that you said that the initial spike in sales for the FS9 LAX was much larger than that of the FSX sales. How have the sales for the FS9 done? If they're good enough, it might be worth it to do Vancouver for both FSX/FS9 also?
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Wait...so will Vancouver be developed just for FSX or for FS9 as well?
We'll take the same approach as with KLAX. We'll do the FSX version as best as we could, without taking any restrain in order to ease a conversion to FS9. AFTER the FSX version will be finished, just as with KLAX, we'll evaluate the situation (and the market at that time), and decide IF we'll do an FS9 version or not.
Umberto, do you have the data on how the sales of the FS9 LAX are doing? I read somewhere that you said that the initial spike in sales for the FS9 LAX was much larger than that of the FSX sales.
You might have misunderstood what I've meant with "spike", it was mentioned just to point out that we *have* seen it, meaning we *could* measure the FS9 release impact on the sales because of it, but it was by no mean comparable to the FSX release days.
How have the sales for the FS9 done? If they're good enough, it might be worth it to do Vancouver for both FSX/FS9 also ?
They are roughly 1/5th of the FSX sales, which means they are just on the borderline of being profitable, considering the time it took to do the FS9 version, but this is KLAX, which is a very popular airport. But we are reasonably happy with it, since KLAX will likely sell well enough for the next 3-4 years so, doing the FS9 version will pay off in the end.
We don't expect CYVR to sell like KLAX (it would be a nice surprise if it will, of course), which means the FS9 version is probably less likely to ever becoming profitable, more so considering we are discussing 8-9 months in the future, and FS9 market is not going to increase by then. It has never increased, it always went down but *very* slowly in the past year, but the slow down has accelerated dramatically this year, like losing 2-3% of users ever year for the past 5 years, then losing about half of the remaining ones this year only. There's likely a "PMDG+Sandy Bridge effect" in effect, but this is what it looks like from what the data we have, which is not just sales, but it's downloads too, activations from the FSX or FS9 version of the Addon Manager, etc.
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I think CYVR will do pretty good! I know of a lot of people excited for this one, myself included!! ;)
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CLICK HERE (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=49.195516067214655~-123.18461241128458&lvl=14&dir=0&sty=h&where1=Vancouver%2C%20BC&form=LMLTCC)
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Good choice altough I would have preferred CYYZ. I'm in anyway....your scenery is just awesome!!!
I know Flytampa is doing Montreal..., so that's gonna make for some interesting flights back and forth!
One question: wasen't Fiumicino Intl. also in your plans, didn't we once vote it? Not that I am unhappy with Vancouver, not at all, but I just tought Fiumicino was next...
Cheers,
David DD
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Great news, Canada is in desperate need of sceneries for the FS world, finally they are getting the attention they deserve. This will be a great scenery, can't wait to see the previews.
I totally agree!
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Am I the only person whom is not happy with Vancouver? :D ... Down with Vancouver up with KMCO or KIAH!
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Am I the only person whom is not happy with Vancouver? :D ... Down with Vancouver up with KMCO or KIAH!
lol I'm happy for are Canadian friends will finally have a good airport to fly into as for kmco I have been wanting that one for a long time now a redo of the cloud9 version I guess you can call it a v2 of kmco with all the details like lax v2 would be amazing but I don't think will see one for a long time now since fsdt did not make kmia due to the fact that it was to close to kfll Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport kiah would be cool too, however you never know what future holds lol.
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Am I the only person whom is not happy with Vancouver? :D ... Down with Vancouver up with KMCO or KIAH!
lol I'm happy for are Canadian friends will finally have a good airport to fly into as for kmco I have been wanting that one for a long time now a redo of the cloud9 version I guess you can call it a v2 of kmco with all the details like lax v2 would be amazing but I don't think will see one for a long time now since fsdt did not make kmia due to the fact that it was to close to kfll Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport kiah would be cool too, however you never know what future holds lol.
MCO v2 would be amazing, whats better than flying all around Florida especially if Orbx did Florida. Let me re phrase it "Am I the only Canadian whom is not happy?" :D
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Am I the only person whom is not happy with Vancouver? :D ... Down with Vancouver up with KMCO or KIAH!
lol I'm happy for are Canadian friends will finally have a good airport to fly into as for kmco I have been wanting that one for a long time now a redo of the cloud9 version I guess you can call it a v2 of kmco with all the details like lax v2 would be amazing but I don't think will see one for a long time now since fsdt did not make kmia due to the fact that it was to close to kfll Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport kiah would be cool too, however you never know what future holds lol.
MCO v2 would be amazing, whats better than flying all around Florida especially if Orbx did Florida. Let me re phrase it "Am I the only Canadian whom is not happy?" :D
True lol :D
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Can't wait!!
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Harbour-Air/De-Havilland-Canada/2032812/L/&sid=9c5664b288ab81b07fcfab970580e25e
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Let me re phrase it "Am I the only Canadian whom is not happy?" :D
Probably. ;D
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No, the only competion CYVR will have, is with ourselves because, we pushed the limit so high with KLAX, that it would be difficult to do better, but we already have some ideas...
What kinds of ideas? If this scenery could top KLAX it would have to be pretty much the best scenery on the planet. I don't have any idea in my mind of topping that. Animated Passengers? Moving insects? :) Wow, now I really can't wait. Any ideas you would like to share, or are those going to be kept secret? Thanks for any reply, and can't wait for release!
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No, the only competion CYVR will have, is with ourselves because, we pushed the limit so high with KLAX, that it would be difficult to do better, but we already have some ideas...
What kinds of ideas? If this scenery could top KLAX it would have to be pretty much the best scenery on the planet. I don't have any idea in my mind of topping that. Animated Passengers? Moving insects? :) Wow, now I really can't wait. Any ideas you would like to share, or are those going to be kept secret? Thanks for any reply, and can't wait for release!
Animated 3d Passengers would be cool but would only make sense at certain areas ;D