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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: feer on August 24, 2011, 12:27:19 am
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after Hawaiian Airports Volume 2 for FSX is done share any info with us for kmia regards feer...
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after Hawaiian Airports Volume 2 for FSX is done share any info with us for kmia regards feer...
KMIA will not be developed by FSDreamTeam its is the works by Intersim Studios
http://www.intersimstudios.com/
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KMIA will not be developed by FSDreamTeam its is the works by Intersim Studios
by intersim yeaaa lol in this century regards feer...
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by intersim yeaaa lol in this century regards feer...
The time it's taken Intersim to complete KMIA, FSDT could have probably done KMIA, KIAH and KATL.
Perhaps one day Intersim's KMIA will see the light of day, but frankly I am not holding my breath and will just continue to use the FlyTampa FS9 version ported to FSX while I wait.
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The time it's taken Intersim to complete KMIA, FSDT could have probably done KMIA, KIAH and KATL.
Perhaps one day Intersim's KMIA will see the light of day, but frankly I am not holding my breath and will just continue to use the FlyTampa FS9 version ported to FSX while I wait.
so we will lose this great airport from fsdt i hope fsdt keep this project in mind or fly tampa who knows regards feer
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after Hawaiian Airports Volume 2 for FSX is done share any info with us for kmia regards feer...
KMIA will not be developed by FSDreamTeam its is the works by Intersim Studios
http://www.intersimstudios.com/
Wouldn't bee surprised if you're from Intersim. ::)
Intersim is frankly. A joke. They have shown the same shots for the past 5 months now, and what those who are saying OMG INTERSIM LOOKS AMAZING, is that renders always look 10x better than in the sim (if you don't know what you are doing). Personally I think that FSDT should really do MIA, as it was in fact 2nd in the poll, and right now makes the most sense as it is really a forgotten hub.
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Wouldn't bee surprised if you're from Intersim.
Intersim is frankly. A joke. They have shown the same shots for the past 5 months now, and what those who are saying OMG INTERSIM LOOKS AMAZING, is that renders always look 10x better than in the sim (if you don't know what you are doing). Personally I think that FSDT should really do MIA, as it was in fact 2nd in the poll, and right now makes the most sense as it is really a forgotten hub.
i agree 100% with 777 captain i hope fsdt reconsider miami win in 2 place affter klax in last poll don't make ant sense to me too regards feer... ;)
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I don't know why FSDT gave up on doing KMIA.
Intersim is kidding us with their endless project.I don't even know anything about the quality of their products.
If FSDT did KMIA no doubt i would buy it.
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I'd love to see the looks on the faces of Intersim's developers if FSDT announced they decided to develop KMIA. All that time spent playing it up, and in only nine months time, there will be a product 10x better on the market taking all their customers away...
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I don't know why FSDT gave up on doing KMIA.
We haven't "gave up" on anything. Intersim are not a factor, we would stop doing a scenery only if it was announced by a *proper* developer and, as I've said in my former post about scenery quality, there aren't many around (maybe 2) we consider to be *proper*
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I really would appreciate a decent scenery of MIA done by you. Your scenerys of all the other airports are just great and it sure would be a good thing when you would do MIA.
Intersim probably will never finish this scenery. Anytime when forum members ask for new screenshots the only answer is: "We are on the way to upload a few new screenshots in a few days, so just stay tuned", but there aren't any new ones.
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Intersim is frankly. A joke. They have shown the same shots for the past 5 months now...
Have any of you noticed that Intersim has recently made their forum off limits to guests? Now you have to register and log in to view those old screen shots. Guess Junior doesn't like lookey loos. ;D
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Intersim probably will never finish this scenery. Anytime when forum members ask for new screenshots the only answer is: "We are on the way to upload a few new screenshots in a few days, so just stay tuned", but there aren't any new ones.
Yep, I quit checking their forum after seeing all those posts you mention. It's the same story over and over with the updates.
I've basically put them out of my mind. If it comes out at some point then I will take a look and see what other people, aside from their staff, say about the looks and performance and make a decision from there.
I would prefer an FSDT version since I know that it could be detailed and get good FPS.
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Intersim probably will never finish this scenery. Anytime when forum members ask for new screenshots the only answer is: "We are on the way to upload a few new screenshots in a few days, so just stay tuned", but there aren't any new ones.
Yep, I quit checking their forum after seeing all those posts you mention. It's the same story over and over with the updates.
I've basically put them out of my mind. If it comes out at some point then I will take a look and see what other people, aside from their staff, say about the looks and performance and make a decision from there.
I would prefer an FSDT version since I know that it could be detailed and get good FPS.
There are no units of measurement to display how much I agree with you here. If FSDT did KMIA, they could retire based on how much $ they would make :D
Virtuali, is KMIA still even a consideration by you or not anymore?
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There are no units of measurement to display how much I agree with you here. If FSDT did KMIA, they could retire based on how much $ they would make
Virtuali, is KMIA still even a consideration by you or not anymore?
+1 for fsdt kmia all the way hope the keep in mind to build miami intl regards feer..
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Virtuali, is KMIA still even a consideration by you or not anymore?
Yes, it's still under consideration.
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Virtuali, is KMIA still even a consideration by you or not anymore?
Yes, it's still under consideration.
That's good too hear Umberto kmia would look amazing.
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Intersim probably will never finish this scenery. Anytime when forum members ask for new screenshots the only answer is: "We are on the way to upload a few new screenshots in a few days, so just stay tuned", but there aren't any new ones.
Yep, I quit checking their forum after seeing all those posts you mention. It's the same story over and over with the updates.
I've basically put them out of my mind. If it comes out at some point then I will take a look and see what other people, aside from their staff, say about the looks and performance and make a decision from there.
I would prefer an FSDT version since I know that it could be detailed and get good FPS.
I even removed them from my favorites list. Now I saw here you have to log into his site now to see nothing?? I had a enough of the bullshit from JR. This guy just can't finish a project. What a joke... ::)
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after Hawaiian Airports Volume 2 for FSX is done share any info with us for kmia regards feer...
KMIA will not be developed by FSDreamTeam its is the works by Intersim Studios
http://www.intersimstudios.com/
HAHAHA!
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i thought fsdreamteam planned already for KMIA or Vancouver coz is the winner of the poll 2?
Virtuali, is KMIA still even a consideration by you or not anymore?
Yes, it's still under consideration.
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Yes, it's still under consideration.
exellent news umberto you made the right choice to keep miami intl as you do a top quality te best on the market this a graet new really many thanks.. regards feer... ;D
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HAHAHA!
lol regards feer.. ;D
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Intersim just announced they are closing its operations.
I think it's one more reason for FSDT to consider KMIA.
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Intersim just announced they are closing its operations.
I think it's one more reason for FSDT to consider KMIA.
You've got to be kidding, lol. Actually i'm not surprised given the history of that company.
Now I just wonder if we will see a post in 5 months were they come back and say "Intersim is not dead" like they did last time they closed up.
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Intersim just announced they are closing its operations.
I think it's one more reason for FSDT to consider KMIA.
You've got to be kidding, lol. Actually i'm not surprised given the history of that company.
Now I just wonder if we will see a post in 5 months were they come back and say "Intersim is not dead" like they did last time they closed up.
No kidding.There is a statement in their website confirming what I said.
Junior also said he is passing KMIA project to Taxi2Gate,but when the hell the scenery will come out nobody knows.
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Intersim just announced they are closing its operations.
I think it's one more reason for FSDT to consider KMIA.
You've got to be kidding, lol. Actually i'm not surprised given the history of that company.
Now I just wonder if we will see a post in 5 months were they come back and say "Intersim is not dead" like they did last time they closed up.
No kidding.There is a statement in their website confirming what I said.
Junior also said he is passing KMIA project to Taxi2Gate,but when the hell the scenery will come out nobody knows.
At least Taxi-toGate knows how to finish his work. So lets see what TTG will offer.
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At least Taxi-toGate knows how to finish his work. So lets see what TTG will offer.
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I wonder how long they will be around. Their forums are dead. You can't register, there are very few posts and nothing in the last few months. Even if T2G does MIA, it will be no where near the quality of an FSDT airport. There is just something fishy about T2G and Intersim. I also get the same feeling about Aviation Multimedia Studios - their forum has gone dead and I can't log in to it anymore. I hope I am wrong about them because I was looking forward to their FSX version of MMUN.
I would just make sure LatinVFR doesn't pick it up. I would think FSDT has a little leverage with them and even if LatinVFR wanted to do it, FSDT could get them to drop the idea. I know LatinVRF has stirred some controversy but they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
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...they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
They also managed to p### off Oliver Pabst when they stole textures from FlyTampa for their Key West scenery, so any new scenery they produce will NOT get AES. As for T2G, most of their sceneries look like they came from an episode of Speed Racer.
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...they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
They also managed to p### off Oliver Pabst when they stole textures from FlyTampa for their Key West scenery, so any new scenery they produce will NOT get AES. As for T2G, most of their sceneries look like they came from an episode of Speed Racer.
Lets not bash TTG. At the moment they are our only hope for some of these sceneries. I am glad JR PM is gone.
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...they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
They also managed to p### off Oliver Pabst when they stole textures from FlyTampa for their Key West scenery, so any new scenery they produce will NOT get AES. As for T2G, most of their sceneries look like they came from an episode of Speed Racer.
Oliver later insinuated that he may consider working with them again and that the decision was not permanent. I hope he does lift his boycott because it really doesn't accomplish anything. It actually punishes AES and LatinVFR customers more than anything.
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...they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
They also managed to p### off Oliver Pabst when they stole textures from FlyTampa for their Key West scenery, so any new scenery they produce will NOT get AES. As for T2G, most of their sceneries look like they came from an episode of Speed Racer.
Lets bot bash TTG. At the moment they are our only hope for some of the sceneries. I am glad JR PM is gone.
Until their support forum comes back on line, I'm not touching T2G with a 10ft pole. As a wise man once said, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
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...they provide attentive customer service, work fast and improve with every release.
They also managed to p### off Oliver Pabst when they stole textures from FlyTampa for their Key West scenery, so any new scenery they produce will NOT get AES. As for T2G, most of their sceneries look like they came from an episode of Speed Racer.
Lets bot bash TTG. At the moment they are our only hope for some of the sceneries. I am glad JR PM is gone.
Until their support forum comes back on line, I'm not touching T2G with a 10ft pole. As a wise man once said, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
I think you got that quote a little screwed up but you are right. They really need to have a support forum in place before I purchase anything from them.
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Lets not bash TTG. At the moment they are our only hope for some of these sceneries.
Not bashing them at all, I just think their sceneries look cartoonish.
I hope he does lift his boycott because it really doesn't accomplish anything. It actually punishes AES and LatinVFR customers more than anything.
Don't forget, this was the second time Ricardo was caught doing it.
As a wise man once said, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
I think what he said was "Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice, shame on me!"
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About the quote - you may not recognize it if you are not an American
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Until their support forum comes back on line, I'm not touching T2G with a 10ft pole. As a wise man once said, "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
After reading your post on Avsim regarding T2G, I would be hesitant to purchase their products as well, especially if they dont at least have a trial version. I'll be honest, if or when T2G releases KMIA and if FSDT doesn't end up doing KMIA, then I will be waiting for a lot of feedback from regular users on how well it performs.
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T2G looks pretty nice but I wish they had a trial version for their sceneries because I will not go near their KMIA unless it passes on looks, and is notable for good performance.
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by intersim yeaaa lol in this century regards feer...
hey guys intersim or t2g wf the closed my account in their forum for my reply here lol what attitude guys this us country freedom of speech!!!! i know the person who do this but i dont login in that site any more good luck intersim ot t2g wherever. very profesional company loooooool ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D regards feer..
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I recenty sent an email to Junior about not being able to login into the forum considering all the information was correct. I see the big picture, Intersim just plainly could'nt cut it. :P
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I recenty sent an email to Junior about not being able to login into the forum considering all the information was correct. I see the big picture, Intersim just plainly could'nt cut it. :P
I think they just bit off more than they could chew so to speak. They promised this and that, even an a/c or two at one point and couldn't complete any of it, despite all the talk of just a few more weeks and we'll be posting some updates in the next few days and so fourth.
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Funny, I tried to log in at intersim but I couldn't. Glad to know I am not alone. I suspected that they shut the forum down but I figured that there may be another duckbilled in the FS community (although I have that name at every FS forum) and I may have registered using a different user name (except I never do). I get the same thing at the AMS forums and I have never been able to register at T2G (I think).
If people wonder why I am so annoyed with these developers, please understand that Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean are my favorite places to fly. For a while, it seemed like we had a plethora of developers for the region and now they all seem to be going belly up. In addition, they are not doing it in a very classy way. How can T2G support Intersim products when their own forums are closed? Furthermore, despite controversy, I am a fan of LatinVFR. Because they have proven that they have a strong commitment to customer service and they deliver on their promises, I give them the benefit of the doubt when people bad mouth them - remember, one of their issues was a squabble with Intersim over Key West. They were also looking at MIA but held back because of Intersim's interest in the project.
In the past, I have argued for developers to coordinate their efforts so they don't duplicate projects but when you have people like Intersim claiming their space and not delivering, it throws a wrench in the system and everyone loses.
BTW, Tropicalsim gets an honorable mention. Their scenery is not as advanced as LatinVFR's but they provide fantastic service and the push out the products like LatinVFR. Really, Tropicalsim has been around for a while and while there scenery is not on par with FSDT (or LatinVFR), they are a class act.
Umberto, please call LatinVFR and ask them to lay off MIA and produce yourself. Don't even worry about T2G. Your scenery is the gold standard and if we know you are working on it, no one will buy another version. We do need a nice MIA and a FSDT version would be awesome. Of course, if FT wanted to do it, that would be another issue but I have not read that they were interested.
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hey guys intersim or t2g wf the closed my account in their forum for my reply here
Not uncommon for developers to read other developer's forums, I've seen Virtuali in the members online list at a couple of them. If you trash them somewhere else and they read it, some of them will ban you from their forum.
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Not uncommon for developers to read other developer's forums, I've seen Virtuali in the members online list at a couple of them. If you trash them somewhere else and they read it, some of them will ban you from their forum.
for me i dont care what they doing so good luck for all of them lol regards feer ;)
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hey guys intersim or t2g wf the closed my account in their forum for my reply here
Not uncommon for developers to read other developer's forums, I've seen Virtuali in the members online list at a couple of them. If you trash them somewhere else and they read it, some of them will ban you from their forum.
Are you sure it was because of a post in this forum? I think T2G's forum is shut down and I can't log in at Intersim. Since you can't see the forums at Intersim without logging in, I can't tell if there are any recent posts.
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Furthermore, despite controversy, I am a fan of LatinVFR. Because they have proven that they have a strong commitment to customer service and they deliver on their promises, I give them the benefit of the doubt when people bad mouth them - remember, one of their issues was a squabble with Intersim over Key West. They were also looking at MIA but held back because of Intersim's interest in the project.
I entirely agree with you.I own several Latinvfr sceneries.They are pretty good,easy on frames and Ricardo has been providing an excelent costumer support.
I was so sad when i knew they were going to drop KMIA and now it seems nobody wants to take on the project.
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..I give them the benefit of the doubt when people bad mouth them - remember, one of their issues was a squabble with Intersim over Key West.
What about the other issue, as in stealing textures from FlyTampa on two occasions? Ricardo apologized after the first incident and said it wouldn't happen again, but it did.
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..I give them the benefit of the doubt when people bad mouth them - remember, one of their issues was a squabble with Intersim over Key West.
What about the other issue, as in stealing textures from FlyTampa on two occasions? Ricardo apologized after the first incident and said it wouldn't happen again, but it did.
Obviously that sucks but do we really know that it was intentional? That's where I give them the benefit of the doubt. Just like FSDT and FT, LatinVFR runs their forums in a open and professional manner. Because of that, Ricardo doesn't seem like they type of guy that would be running around stealing textures. To me, he is trying to do things the right way and may need to make some adjustments in his staff or procedures. Maybe he has a bad apple on his team? There are a ton of reasons why this could have happened - intentionally releasing a product with FT's textures is only one of the possibilities. It is a classic error of assuming that organizations always act rationally, and therefore, I find that labeling LatinVFR as unethical on a organizational level is unfair and probably inaccurate.
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Maybe it was purely accidental both times, but as the company owner, Ricardo has to take responsibility.
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Maybe it was purely accidental both times, but as the company owner, Ricardo has to take responsibility.
I agree and I think he did by apologizing. Still, I can understand people needing a little time before they regain trust. I just hope Oliver will change his mind soon. That's my main concern. I want to buy more LatinVFR scenery and I want to buy more AES credits.
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Hey Guys,
I was just reading this thread and decided to check out Intersim Studio's Website, just to see if by chance they had a few more screenshots. I was surprised to read on the front page the INTERSIM IS CLOSING (AGAIN) http://www.intersimstudios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=314 ! . I just really can't believe it! It closes every year, reopens, gets our hopes up, and then closes again. What a joke.
Anyway, I'm from the Miami Area, and I hope the FSDT creates KMIA.
Andrew
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Hey Guys,
I was just reading this thread and decided to check out Intersim Studio's Website, just to see if by chance they had a few more screenshots. I was surprised to read on the front page the INTERSIM IS CLOSING (AGAIN) http://www.intersimstudios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=314 ! . I just really can't believe it! It closes every year, reopens, gets our hopes up, and then closes again. What a joke.
Anyway, I'm from the Miami Area, and I hope the FSDT creates KMIA.
Andrew
Most of us know :P
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Here is another vote for KMIA from FSDT. First time I heard of Intersim but there is no way I would trust this company since it is closing.
Airports I think would be best to develop.
1. KATL
2. KMIA
3. KMSP
4. KDEN
5. CYYZ
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Denver is under consideration by Flightbeam after Phoenix is finished, and Atlanta was just updated by Imaginesim.
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Denver is under consideration by Flightbeam after Phoenix is finished, and Atlanta was just updated by Imaginesim.
But, with all due respect to Imaginesim, I would rather an fsdt quality scenery for KATL that gets better frames and in the end looks better.
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...I would rather an fsdt quality scenery for KATL...
I would rather ssee FSDT do an airport that hasn't been covered. :)
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Perhaps St Louis or Pittsburgh..... ;)
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Pittsburg is too close to PHL, which is being done by sun Sky Jet. St. Louis would be good.
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I believe the next airport needs to have the following qualities:
1. International traffic
2. Hub for a major airline
3. Has not been done by another quality developer. If it has, the scenery cannot be available for FSX and FS9
4. Probably located in North America
5. Cannot be in geographic areas that are problematic for FSX like SEA and VAN
This is just what I have gleaned from comments in several threads. I think KMIA, KMCO, KMSP and KIAH are the only ones that truly fit the bill. A nice CYYZ would be good but a decent freeware one exists for FSX that even has AES support. STL and PIT don't get a lot of international traffic traffic (only Air Canada AFAIK). While a FSDT ATL would be nice, some people will stick with their IS scenery and skip a FSDT ATL.
And as I mentioned before, I don't consider Blueprint a quality developer. To me, their airports are good for those that want enhanced default scenery at a low price. I have never been able to get over their refusal to provide AES support and I think that is what puts them in a lower tier than Imaginesim. I also think the overall quality of Imaginesim's airports is slightly higher than Blueprints. I am truly not bashing BP becasue I believe that is where they want to be and the market they want to serve. I believe they have no desire to compete with FSDT, FT or even Imaginesim.
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Quick question,what's the CYYZ scenery for FSX you mentioned? Thanks!
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Quick question,what's the CYYZ scenery for FSX you mentioned? Thanks!
Ooops. I was wrong. For some reason, I thought that the one for FS9 (defranco) was available for FSX and supported in AES. It is not. What is more troubling with my assertion is that I thought I had it installed :-[
So, I think CYYZ should be added to that short list of large international North American hubs that need scenery.
The updated is
KMIA
KMCO
KMSP
KIAH
CYYZ
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So, I think CYYZ should be added to that short list of large international North American hubs that need scenery.
Except for Miami, every hub you listed has scenery. You just need to get over your Blueprint bias. ;)
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Or someone needs to infuse some life for BP, Like a new owner for the company...... :D
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So basically FSDreamteam could do any Aerosoft airport since they suck in doing a realistic airport. But my opinion is: How about you guys jumb over to Australia! Sydney, Mellbourne all these airports need a real good scenery for all respect to ORBX their mesh is pwning all but their airports scenerys are not that high quality like their terrain
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Or someone needs to infuse some life for BP, Like a new owner for the company...... :D
I don't think BP would be that bad if they would just hire a texture artist and start making custom ground polys for the runways, taxiways, and aprons. Aside from those two facts, I don't mind their stuff to much since its often a bit better looking than default and the buildings models aren't bad. If they too the same models and textured them a little better to give some depth and realism, their airports would look a lot better and not so sterile.
I dont care about the jetways not moving, or the fact that AES doesn't cover BP airports since GSX will be able to do the same thing for all airports, minus moving the jetways.
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I do have a few of BP's Airports, Indianapolis International simply because of the mid-field terminal being completed(Dreamscenery's KIND has not been updated :P), Cleveland Hopkins International Airport since its the major airport for NorthEast Ohio and the only payware version thats available. I also have two of their freeware airports as well.
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...and the only payware version thats available.
For a while, that was their niche in the hobby, they were doing airports like CLE and MSP that nobody else had done. Now, they're just being copy cats with sceneries like LAX and DFW.
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Yep thats been there standard eversince.........No way to tell at the moment which direction they will be heading for their next airport. :-\
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I agree that it is great that BP does try to fill the gap of airports that haven't been (commercially) made, especially since they can pump out sceneries pretty frequently.
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You know a way to make BP scenery look even better....? REX..... It changes all the default ground textures so there shouldn't really be an issue... I do hope their next release is something we REALLY need.. ALA KSLC, KABQ, KSTL....
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Intersim's page said they are closing ops on Oct 9.
Please take my home airport and run with it! I own every FSDT product and love them all!
Luis Linares
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Hi !
I must say that i bought Blueprint KLAX in march 2011 and don"t regret it, since FSDT KLAX has been eventually released months later.
But.. yes, they really need to improve the overall esthetic. I dont thin it requires great adjustements.
Dom