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Title: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 12, 2011, 09:37:10 pm
Hi !

Again harddisk crash -i am now reinstalling the FS Dreams products - and again problems - i am downloading them - installing - first of all - they dont show up in the scenere library and are not located that automatically - why ?? Than i go to the addon manager - register them again - nothing - Zürich - runways no buildings once - than deleted everything again - reinstalled it - old weird buidlings.

I am sitting 6 hours now and ite not working.

Please help

Marek EHRLICH
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 12, 2011, 10:02:05 pm
If the installers can't automatically add the sceneries to the Scenery Library is not normal, doesn't happen, and it indicates a problem with either your scenery.cfg or your registry keys. It's surely not a problem of our product, because if it was, it would happen to everyone.

You are not saying which version of Flight simulator you are using so it's difficult to help you if you aren't more precise.

In any case, regardless of the version, fact the installers can't add the scenery to the Scenery Library means there's something wrong with your system, and it doesn't normally happen.

Some things that might be wrong in your system and can cause this are:

- Another addon has corrupted your scenery.cfg. In this case you should have seen a warning by our installers, with a message listing the problem line and a warning the installation hasn't completed. If the installation hasn't completed, the scenery will not obviously show

- Your Flight sim registry keys are either missing, corrupted or pointing to the wrong folder. In this case, depending if you have or not another valid Flight sim installation in the folder pointed by your registry, the scenery will install correctly, but not in the flight sim installation you normally use. This can also be caused by other products that corrupt the Flight registry keys, or by a registry cleaner.

- Your user account has limited permission settings and it doesn't allow to access and rewrite the scenery.cfg. In this case, try to run the installer using an user account with Admin rights.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 12, 2011, 11:18:10 pm
tks for the help.

i am running FS 9 - where can i find the flight sim reg key ?

Best regards marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 12, 2011, 11:36:46 pm
add-on manager 1.8 is okay ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 13, 2011, 11:05:43 am
i am running FS 9 - where can i find the flight sim reg key ?

You don't say which OS you are using, because that's changes too:

Under Windows XP or Vista/Windows7 32 bit, is under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0\EXE Path

Under Vista/Windows 7 64 bit is under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\microsoft games\flight simulator\9.0\EXE Path

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add-on manager 1.8 is okay ?

It's the current version, since all the installer automatically gets it online when running. However, the problem of sceneries not being added automatically to the Scenery Library doesn't have anything to do with the Addon Manager, it's something wrong in your system that is affecting the installer, and the Addon Manager hasn't run yet at that point.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 13, 2011, 04:35:42 pm
i am running OS - Windows 7

Okay - i have a problem that the sceneries are not  being added automatically to the Scenery Library - but where is the problem ?????? everything else is running fine - only the FS Dreams products not.

Please adivse
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 13, 2011, 04:49:23 pm
i am running OS - Windows 7

You haven't said if you use 32 or 64 bit, and there's a difference regarding to registry keys, as I've indicated in my previous message.

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Okay - i have a problem that the sceneries are not  being added automatically to the Scenery Library - but where is the problem ?????? everything else is running fine - only the FS Dreams products not.

"running fine" doesn't mean much, depending on what your other addon installers are trying to do.

Do you mean you have other addon sceneries that are supposed to automatically add their area to the Scenery Library using their installer which installs and successfully add their area to the Scenery Library automatically, and only the FSDT scenery installers fail to add the scenery to the Scenery Libraray automatically ?

Or, do you mean they just runs fine, but they don't need to interact with the scenery.cfg, so it's not really relevant to this issue anyway ?

It's possible you configured FS9 to run into any of the XP Compatibility modes ? This is wrong and shouldn't be used, and it also affect the location of the scenery.cfg in use. The scenery.cfg is located in different places, depending on the OS, it can be both in the FS9 root folder (as in XP) OR in the %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FS9 folder (as in Vista\Win7 )

Our installer automatically updates BOTH locations of the scenery.cfg, the XP location and the Vista/Win7 location so, this shouldn't be an issue.

However, if on top of running FS9 in XP mode, you also installed it into the default C:\Program Files (or in the C:\Program Files (x86 ) under a 64 bit OS), under Vista/Win7 there's no write permission on this folder. Which is why the scenery.cfg in Vista/Win7 resides in %appdata% but if the XP mode moves the location of the scenery.cfg to the FS9 root folder, the installer can't modify it.

You should check if your are running FS9 into XP compatibility mode (or any of the compatibility modes) and turn it off, the run all our installers again.

As a general suggestion, it's best NOT to install FS9 or FSX into the C:\Program Files default folder under Vista/Win7 but, instead, use a folder you specify, like C:\FS9. This way, you don't have any permission problems from any addon installer that need to modify any of the configuration files.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 13, 2011, 05:14:04 pm
Umberto,

thanks for the answers - look - i am a medical doctor and a normal FS user - not a computer guy. iSo all that means nothing to me. i think i am running 64 - definitly Windows 7. The Fs was installed under Program files/microsoft games/fs9. Interestingly, FS Zürich after going 5 times by deleting and reinstlaling it - just showed up in the scenery library and it looks fine. The others, Dallas, ORD, JFK still dont work. Shall i just go deleting and reinstalling them all the time ?? How do i check if i run FS9 into XP compatibility mode (or any of the compatibility modes) ??????????????
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 13, 2011, 06:25:29 pm
FS Zürich after going 5 times by deleting and reinstlaling it - just showed up in the scenery library and it looks fine. The others, Dallas, ORD, JFK still dont work

The installation program is exactly the same and does exactly the same things with regard adding to the Scenery Library, there's no reasons whatsoever why Zurich would work and the others not, unless you changed a setting in the meantime.

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Shall i just go deleting and reinstalling them all the time ??

The installer is able to add the sceneries automatically to the Scenery Library on the first try, it was already wrong that you had to try "5 times" to have Zurich showing up so no, you don't have to reinstall all the time if, with "all the time", you mean each time you use them.

UNLESS, your system has configuration problems, your scenery.cfg was corrupted for some reason. All things I've already discussed.

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How do i check if i run FS9 into XP compatibility mode (or any of the compatibility modes) ?????????????

Right-click on the FS9.EXE, select "Properties", then select the "Compatibility" tab.

In any case, even if you are unable to find what's wrong on your system, nothing prevents you to add the sceneries manually to the Scenery Library, it will still work.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 13, 2011, 07:36:39 pm
Umberto,

even if i install the scenery manualy into the scenery library - the airport shows up on the first step of the list - i close the FS - start it again - he shows me that some changes are made into the sceneries - i open the library and the airport is NOT there anymore.

So give me please now exact instruction how i can get these 4 sceneries finally to work. i mean i have spend over 150 Euro and nothing works easy with only these FS Dreams sceneries.

TKS Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 13, 2011, 08:00:28 pm
or shall in deinstall the whole FS 9 - and put the FS dreams sceneries as the first step before putting on airplanes, AES, other airports ?

I mean that will cost me 10 hours.

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 13, 2011, 09:34:50 pm
even if i install the scenery manualy into the scenery library - the airport shows up on the first step of the list - i close the FS - start it again - he shows me that some changes are made into the sceneries - i open the library and the airport is NOT there anymore.

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So give me please now exact instruction how i can get these 4 sceneries finally to work. i mean i have spend over 150 Euro and nothing works easy with only these FS Dreams sceneries.

According to your report, even if you add the area manually, FS9 can't keep the setting after a restart.

If this is really what's happening, then sorry no, this doesn't have anything to do with our sceneries: I might even consider a problem or better a unknown weakness in our *installers*, but if you can't even keep the area after adding it yourself inside FS9, then it's SURE it's not a problem of our sceneries, for some reason FS9 can't update modifications to the the scenery.cfg properly, and this is not related at all to *which* scenery you are trying to add.

Note that (ONLY under Vista/Win 7) the procedure to add a scenery manually on the Scenery Library  might be confusing: you might have to select a blank area in the file browse dialog, instead of clicking on the scenery's folder name, as it might be logic (and how it used to be under XP) otherwise the correct path will not be set, so FS9 might refuse the area after a restart.

Also, you can try running FS9 as Administrator, at least when you add the area.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 03:18:28 pm
Umberto,

i deinstalled the whole FS 9 with all the add on sceneries - i installed the FS 9 again in the folder c:/FS 9 - not in program files - than i installed FS Dreams JFK - opened the FS and again - the scenery is not automatically placed in the scenery library - so now it has to be some mistake with your sceneries.

I am still waiting for a help here is i am going mad.

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 03:33:52 pm
i installed the FS 9 again in the folder c:/FS 9 - not in program files - than i installed FS Dreams JFK - opened the FS and again - the scenery is not automatically placed in the scenery library - so now it has to be some mistake with your sceneries.

The fact that changing the FS9 folder hasn't change the issue, simply means the problem in your system that is preventing the scenery to be automatically added to the Scenery Library, wasn't caused by the FS9 folder permission but it's something else, and doesn't obviously means there's a "mistake" in our sceneries.

Besides, any "mistake" would be in the INSTALLER, not the scenery itself. Since it's even possible to create a new area in the Scenery Library without ANY files, an empty area, it means the scenery itself can't be a problem if your system can't add a new area, the only one that could do a "mistake" not adding an area, would be the scenery installer.

However, as I've said already, according to your report, you are even't able to add a scenery area MANUALLY inside FS9. Obviously, the scenery installer is not involved anymore at this time, so this clearly proves it's a problem of your configuration, since it can't be the scenery files (I repeat it again: you can add an area even without any files in it, FS9 doesn't care what's inside the folder, as long there's a "scenery" folder, it will always add the area, without checking what's inside) and it's not the installer, then it's nothing related to our sceneries.

More precisely, the SAME configuration problem that affects our installer, is also preventing you to add an area to the Scenery Library manually. Or, if I have to follow your own description of the problem, it's not the FS9 can't add the area, it's just that can't save the setting for the next session.

Changing the FS9 installation folder has only prevented you from being affected by permission problems but, apparently, this wasn't the problem, so it must be something else.

Are you able, for example, to manually add something ELSE (not FSDT) to your Scenery Library AND having FS9 keep the setting between sessions ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 03:38:58 pm
Umberto,

i can ad FS manually now - it is shown that the scenery is activated in the Addon manager but look at the picture attached - no building nothing. I can add all other sceneries (Imagine, Blue print, Aerosoft etc) without any problems at all. Only the FS sceneries are giving me hard times.

marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 03:49:41 pm
Deleted JFK - tried to install ORD now - look what weird messages i am getting now ???
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 03:51:06 pm
OR this ???
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 03:54:37 pm
Umberto,

Now deleted FS JFK and uploaded FS Ohare - look what kind of messages i get now ?? i am so so frustrated
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 04:04:31 pm
Those messages are NOT "weird" or unexpected, you are really confusing normal things, which your problem of not being able to add to the Scenery Library automatically, which is an entirely different thing.

The Esellerate Error -25001 SIMPLY means there IS a Serial Number for that scenery in the registry, but you typed it wrong. This is obviously fixed by selecting "Register Serial" from the Addon Manager and type the CORRECT Serial Number.

The Serial Number is NOT removed when Uninstalling, and it's NOT removed even when Uninstalling FS9, which obviously make sense (you wouldn't want to reinsert it every time you reinstall the scenery) so, none of this has anything to do with the installation, it's just you typed a wrong serial, the program is trying to activate it, and found it being wrong. The fix is very simple, see above.

The other message, which is requesting activation, is also normal, is not "weird", and it's simply indicates there IS a Serial Number for that product in the registry, but it hasn't been activated yet, probably because an hardware change. If you reply YES, it will obviously go online to check your Serial Number, and eventually report one of the two results: either the Serial was correct and you still had activations left, OR the Serial wasn't correct because you typed it wrong, in that case an error 25001 will appear, and you'll have to fix it, obviously by inserting the CORRECT Serial.

Again, nothing of this is strange, weird or unexpected, it's exactly what is supposed to happen but of course, if you insert wrong Serials, how ANY software could react to fix this ?

And, none of this is related to the fact your system has something wrong which apparently prevents you to add a scenery to the Scenery Library.


Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 04:21:00 pm
So i shall always press yes - but why are the building not there ?
Sorry for bothering u so much
marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 04:25:10 pm
So i shall always press yes

Yes, of course.

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but why are the building not there ?

Fact you don't see buildings, doesn't have anything to do with the activation. If the Addon Manager says the scenery is "Active", then it's active.

If the scenery is not listed in the Scenery Library, of course it will not show, this is no different than any FS9 scenery.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 04:26:31 pm
Umberto,

now i have building but it desnt look like the FS dreams scenery - Where can the problem be now ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 04:32:01 pm
installed - Ohare - Addon manager says - registered - Runways - NO Buildings.

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 06:18:04 pm
installed - Ohare - Addon manager says - registered - Runways - NO Buildings.

The buildings shows in your screenshot are not from our scenery. This means, the scenery hasn't been added to the Scenery Library again.

This has been your problem all along: it doesn't have anything to do with activation: if the scenery is not activated, it will NOT disappear! It will run in Trial mode for 5 minutes at time.

If you don't see any scenery, and you have the Addon Manager menu, it means everything is running correctly but, if the scenery is not added to the Scenery Library, it will not show, as with any other FS scenery.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 06:41:33 pm
Umberto,

u telling me all the time what is right or wrong - thanks for that but sofar NO solution what i shall do that this FS sceneries are finally running. I am nom almost 15 hours involved in this problem. Any other scenery - u install very easily- upload the scenery - put in the Reg key and its running fine.

So can u give me some advise what i can do ?

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 06:42:51 pm
Once again - i have now only the FS 9 installed with the update to FS 9.1 - NO other sceneries. Originaly disks from Microsoft - what shall i do next - install the addon manager - install the first scenerey - i mean give me some advise finally

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 08:31:00 pm
Once again - i have now only the FS 9 installed with the update to FS 9.1 - NO other sceneries. Originaly disks from Microsoft - what shall i do next - install the addon manager - install the first scenerey - i mean give me some advise finally

You don't seem to understand: your mistake is to keep assuming there's something "wrong" either in our installer, or in the way you install our sceneries. This is NOT your issue. Nothing related to our installers matter to this.

Your issue is that you can't add a scenery area, even MANUALLY, to FS9. This is wrong, doesn't depend in any way from our installers and it's something that has gone wrong in your installation. If you are unable to add a new scenery to the Scenery Library manually, this doesn't have anything to do with us, and it must be fixed first.

And besides, the latest version of the Addon Manager is automatically downloaded by the scenery installer from the internet so, you just install the scenery and don't worry about the Addon Manager being the correct version or not. Only if you have a Cloud9 product that doesn't have an updated FSDT installer, then you have to Update using the Stand-Alone Addon Manager AFTER installing the Cloud9 product.

Try this: create a NEW User login using the Windows Control Panel Account page, and create an user with Admin rights. Now, disconnect from your regular user, and login again using the newly created user, then try to install the scenery there, and see if it adds the area automatically.

Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 08:54:55 pm
Umberto  :) :),

created a new account with a name and administrator and it works - great - so what shall i do now that it also work with my account where i am also adminstrator.

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 09:05:16 pm
created a new account with a name and administrator and it works - great

That's FINALLY proves the problem was your configuration, and nothing related to our sceneries.

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so what shall i do now that it also work with my account where i am also adminstrator.

Of course, if I knew *what* was wrong, I could simply told you how to fix it, instead of having you create another account. That's was just a way to prove you it was something local to your system config.

Now, you can try removing this folder, from your regular user account:

%APPDATA%\Microsoft\FS9

this stores the local FS9 config, if you remove it, a new one will be created automatically, maybe it will fix the problem.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 09:08:46 pm
Umberto,

please tell me how to remove this folder ? i have no clue - please tell me step by step

tks for your patience
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 09:15:41 pm
Umberto,

found in the explorer the folder - user - than i go to Marek - but ther is no APPDATA ??
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2011, 09:23:32 pm
Type this:

%APPDATA%\Microsoft

in the blank area of the Windows Start menu (the one that opens when you click on the big Windows logo on the bottom-left of the screen), then press Enter

An explorer window with many folders should open. Select the one named "FS9" with a single click, and press the DEL key on the keyboard to remove it.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 09:45:56 pm
I deleted this folder - now i cant open the FS simulator as he gives me an error message - in the application ....
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 09:56:18 pm
Sorry - was my mistake - so i completle deleted in my folder (marek) - appdata - roaming - MIcrosoft - FS -

but it still doesnt work - its strange as it has to do something with the Admin - funtion.

What shall i do now ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 16, 2011, 10:32:10 pm
I erased - all the Microsoft/fs.cfg files - it is still not working
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 09:02:38 am
I erased - all the Microsoft/fs.cfg files - it is still not working

This only means the problem wasn't there. Try the registry. Open the REGEDIT program (as before, type REGEDIT in the white area of the Start button and press Enter)

Look for this entry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT/MICROSOFT GAMES/Flight Simulator/9.0

And check if the "EXE Path" parameter points to the correct folder were you actually have installed FS9. If not, correct it manually by double clicking on the "EXE Path" name and change it.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 05:11:07 pm
Hi Umberto - got there and i have only first run and standard - no exe path - see pic attached
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 05:59:52 pm
Try this one instead:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT/MICROSOFT GAMES/Flight Simulator/9.0
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 06:04:22 pm
Exe File path  is correct though

what now ??
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 06:22:20 pm
I'm sorry, but I have no idea, other then we finally proved it was something related to your user account. Maybe a problem with permissions ?

Try to edit your account to be a standard user with limited permissions, log out, then log in again, and change it back to admin permission, perhaps this will reset your settings.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 06:40:02 pm
Tried - no success - i give up - it's too complicated and a pity
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 06:48:23 pm
And  umberto - it's really strange as I would use the other account - the software gets
Installed with no problems - do there must be a small difference in these 2
Accounts and I don't know where it is
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 07:12:34 pm
I mean where can the problem be ? A brand new
Computer and a new harddisk !!! I am so so frustrated
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 08:40:49 pm
Umberto please help
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 08:42:56 pm
I mean where can the problem be ? A brand new
Computer and a new harddisk !!! I am so so frustrated

If I knew, I would have told you already. We finally found is related to the account so, something must gone wrong with your account settings, doesn't seem to be related to FS9 files, since they are recreated from scratch when removing the FS9 local folder in %APPDATA% so, if it's not that, it might be related to account permissions.

You can also try to play with the UAC (User Account Control) settings, and see if it makes any difference. Some explanation how they work here:

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-7-whats-up-with-the-uac
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 08:51:42 pm
Umberto - I changed the level to low and it seems
To work - Jesus - finally - thanks
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 09:28:15 pm
Umberto - crazy - JFK and Ohare - r running fine -
Now problems with phnl Zurich and Dallas !!?
Don't get it
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 10:03:44 pm
Umberto - Why were These 2 sceneries added to the scenery
Library properly and automatically and work fine and the others
Don't ???!!
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 10:18:32 pm
There's no difference whatsoever (provided, of course, you are using the current version of all installers), between the installers, they do exactly the same thing.

And besides, I've already explained, many times already, that if you are unable to add the scenery even manually, the problem doesn't have anything to do with the scenery itself, or the installer, since the installer is no longer in use at that point, and the scenery doesn't matter at all on the ability to add an area to the Scenery Library, since you can even add an area with an *empty* scenery folder, if you want.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 10:22:43 pm
Umberto - I CAN add the scenery folder manually -
I quit the FS - go to the scenery but there r no buildings
- so there is even something wrong when I add them manualy
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 10:27:28 pm
Umberto - I CAN add the scenery folder manually - I quit the FS - go to the scenery but there r no buildings- so there is even something wrong when I add them manualy

You said something different: that you were able to add the area, but if you exit FS9 and launch it again, the area is not there anymore so, obviously, you'll not see any scenery.

If this is the case, I can only repeat and confirm it's a problem of your setting.

What's happening if you use the OTHER user account you created for testing ? You already said it worked...
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: viennaman on March 17, 2011, 10:33:44 pm
No area is still there in the folder - but if u go to the airport -
No buildings - why is JFK and ORD working and these not -
That's strange
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries **SOLVED**
Post by: virtuali on March 17, 2011, 10:40:15 pm
No area is still there in the folder - but if u go to the airport - No buildings - why is JFK and ORD working and these not -That's strange

Ok, now you are saying a different thing. As I've said, provided you are using all current version of the installers, there's no reason why a scenery would work and the other not. In any case, is the Area being automatically added by the installers, now that you have changed the UAC ? And, you haven't replied to my previous question, if the scenery works in the other user account you created for testing.

However, now the whole issue is entirely different which means, everything we found so far is probably useless, apart for the fact that lowering the UAC seems to have improved (but still, please check in the other user account first).

If your Scenery Areas now work as expected, and you see the Addon Manager, but not the scenery and you ARE using the current scenery installers and you haven't seen any error during installation, and some FSDT sceneries work and some not, then sorry, but the only possible explanation left, is that there's another scenery in conflict, which seems strange, since you say you reinstalled FS9 from scratch.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 06:40:35 am
Umberto,

Didn't check all FS dreams sceneries in the other account
Conflict with another scenery ? There is no other scenery
Only fly Tampa st marteen and SFO - but I don't think they make
A conflict - from what I see is - if the FS dreams scenery gets
Added automatically to the scenery folder like JFK and ORD
Than it works - doing it manually - forget it
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 11:26:14 am
from what I see is - if the FS dreams scenery gets Added automatically to the scenery folder like JFK and ORD Than it works - doing it manually - forget it

I'm not sure to undertand you here. First, as I've said, the installers are exactly the same so, either all of them are able to add the scenery to the Scenery Library, or none of them should.

However, although not being able to add the scenery to the Scenery Library automatically is an indication of a problem in your configuration, the scenery should work if you add its area manually, unless there was a problem during the installation with your scenery.cfg, so the installation didn't copy the scenery files. But in this case you should have seen a warning by the installer, because it checks the scenery.cfg being correct *before* trying to modify it.

Now, please, try to be precise and do the following:

- Use your other user account
- Be sure you are using the CURRENT version of ALL the sceneries. If unsure, download them again
- Install them ALL
- Pay attention if you get any warning messages from the installer
- Note which ones are automatically added to the Scenery Library and which ones not
- Note which ones works
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 11:53:06 am
Umberto - even with a new account - only 2 sceneries are
Automatically installed in the scenery library - ORD and JFK
Like under my account - I can add them manually but still
The sceneries won't work as there are no buildings only runways
And taxiways - have the add-on manager 1.8 and the latest
Downloads - so what next ??
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 12:05:38 pm
As i've said, the installers are exactly the same so, either all of them are able to add the scenery to the Scenery Library, or none of them should. There's no reason why only JFK and KORD work, and the others not.

And besides, you haven't said if you are seeing buildings on JFK and KORD, or they just able to add the scenery to the Scenery Library automatically, but they also don't work.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 12:08:17 pm
ORD and JFK are working perfectly - the scenery is fine with
Buildings etc
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 12:40:06 pm
Umberto - thats a pic eg. from FSD Zürich - manually added to the Scenery library - checked the scnerey.cfg file- the scenery is there added and see how the airport looks like - blury taxi and runways and no buidlings - same is true form DTW, PHNL
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 01:28:17 pm
As I've said, it's just not possible that one installer would add the scenery automatically to the library, and another not. They are all the same, doing exactly the same things.

Are you really *sure* you used the Zurich installer and not, for example, the Zurich *update* installer ? The update is smaller, and it doesn't add the scenery to the library (since it's supposed to be there already) and it doesn't contain all the scenery, which seems to be consistent with what you are seeing in the screenshot. Are you

Besides, it's not that just the taxiways are blurred, the whole image quality is very bad in your screenshot: the hills in the background are not part of our scenery, and are very blurred too. To fix blurriness, set the MipMap quality to 5 or more and set the Global Max texture size to Massive in FS9, and use an Anisotropic filter to 8x or more in your Video card Control Panel.

However, you should still see buildings, even if blurred so, this doesn't have anything to do with the missing buildings.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 02:56:01 pm
Got Zurich and Honolulu to work - don't ask
Me how - installing - deleting - installing - now
KDFW is the only one that I am struggling
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 03:43:07 pm
Got Zurich and Honolulu to work - don't ask
Me how - installing - deleting - installing - now

Well, I would like to know what was it...

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KDFW is the only one that I am struggling

Again, no difference whatsoever compared to the other installers.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 04:02:25 pm
Umberto - major drawback - KDTW didnt work at all ???
Went to FS commander - opened it and he was opening
Active sky evolution telling me that some data is missing
At the Application folder - so I deleted everything again as I
assumed some files were missing when I deleted them from
The regdata - now installing FS again - I am so so upset
Mark
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 04:09:05 pm
Umberto - major drawback - KDTW didnt work at all ???

You mean KDFW ?

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Went to FS commander - opened it and he was opening

No idea what is is, and how might be related to KDFW

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Active sky evolution telling me that some data is missing

At least you know that's something wrong in your FS9 installation doesn't affect *only* FSDT products.

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At the Application folder - so I deleted everything again as I assumed some files were missing when I deleted them from The regdata

You mean appdata ? The only files that really could affect this are the scenery.cfg and the fs9.cfg. If you remove them both, nothing will happen, except your FS9 settings will go back to default if you remove the fs9.cfg, and your Scenery Library will go back to all default sceneries, if you remove the scenery.cfg

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now installing FS again - I am so so upset

I would still like to know how you fixed Zurich and PHNL. I'm sorry, but this also clearly proves you must doing something wrong along the way. The Zurich and PHNL installer are always the same...
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 07:52:13 pm
Umberto,

Got back to the stage where i was 5 hours ago - JFK and PHNL are working fine - the rest now shit - what is interesting - when i add manually the scenery to the folder - it shows up - i quit FS - go to the scenery.cfg file - open it with word and the added new scenery is not showing ???

Any clues if this is the problem ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 08:20:00 pm
what is interesting - when i add manually the scenery to the folder - it shows up - i quit FS - go to the scenery.cfg file - open it with word and the added new scenery is not showing ???

This is what you said yesterday: the scenery is added, but FS9 is not saving the setting. Also, I really hope you don't *save* it back with Word! That would CORRUPT the scenery.cfg!! You should never, ever, use Word to edit a text file. Use a proper text file editor, or at least Notepad.

Also, keep in mind there are TWO scenery.cfg files, one under the main FS9 folder, another one in the %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FS9. Depending on the OS and the permission settings, one or the other is used so, you might be fooled into thinking the scenery is not there, because you are looking the wrong file.

Try to remove BOTH scenery.cfg files, and reinstall one of our sceneries and NEVER open them with Word again!
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 08:27:12 pm
Okay,

i was opening them with OWrd and saving them- So now i will delete them and keep u posted
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 08:31:21 pm
Umberto,

at the appliacation data - there is no scenery.cfg file - in non of the 3 applications - local - locallow - roaming - so i deleted the one at the FS folder.

marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 08:33:16 pm
Umberto,

great - now i cant open the FS - he tells me - scenery.cfg is not working - install FS 9 again - so do i have to reinstall FS 9 again - can you send me the scenery.cfg file:

marek.ehrlich@meduniwien.ac.at my email
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 08:54:15 pm
You can get the original scenery.cfg from the "Complete" archive (you need something that can open .CAB files) in the FS9 CD 4
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 08:57:15 pm
what do you mean somtething that can open CAB files - i am a moron umberto - dont forget this
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 08:58:08 pm
what do you mean somtething that can open CAB files - i am a moron umberto - dont forget this

An utility that can open compressed files, like Winrar, Winzip, 7-Zip, etc. I'll send you via email anyway...
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 09:03:15 pm
Wait, I've just checked, the scenery.cfg is not even compressed, it's in the COMPLETE folder of the FS9 CD number 4
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 09:11:10 pm
Umberto - copied it from the CD 4  back to the FS folder - now i can open FS again - so what shall i do next ?

Marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 09:17:30 pm
I can tell u one thing now - I installed Zurich - opened FS - put it manually in the scenery folder - closed fs - opened it again - it stays on top of the scenery folder - closed FS - went to the fs9 folder in the explorer - opened scenery.cfg with the editor - FS Zurich is addded at the end. Go back to FS - opened Zürich airport - same situation like yesterday - blury and no buidings
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 10:09:56 pm
Sorry, but we are back at the start. If the installer can't add the scenery automatically on the Scenery Library, then something is wrong already.

I really don't know what to do next, except you are the only one having this problem, in the 3+ years Zurich has been out.

And, as I've said, all the scenery installers are doing exactly the same thing so, there's no reason why they would behave differently from each other.

I suggest you start from scratch, maybe by reinstalling Windows because, obviously something wrong is going on with your system.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 10:12:14 pm
U mean - i shall format my whole computer ? and install windows again ?

marek
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 10:15:09 pm
When you started this thread, 5 days ago, you said you just did that, because you had an hard disk crash.

Can you try doing it again, install just your video drivers and FS9 with the 9.1 update and any one of our sceneries, without adding or doing anything else ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 10:22:45 pm
Umberto,

I deinstalled all sceneries and the Flight Simulator now
3 times - Left only active Sky evolution and fscommamder -

Than reinstalled fs 9 - upgraded to fs 9.1 and Started only with the
FS dreams sceneries

Interestingly, although I deleted last time everything FSdreams
JFK and phnl were already installed and worked fine -
So many strange things happen
Video driver I never erased and Installed again
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 10:25:55 pm
I deinstalled all sceneries and the Flight Simulator now 3 times - Left only active Sky evolution and fscommamder -

That's not how you uninstall FS9 properly. You should never leave other FS9 addons installed if you want to uninstall FS9 correctly.

The correct way is:

- Uninstall ALL the Addons using their Uninstallers

- Uninstall FS9

- Go into the FS9 folder and REMOVE it, because something might be still there

- Remove %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FS9

- Reinstall FS9

- Update to 9.1

- Then you can reinstall the addons.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 18, 2011, 10:42:13 pm
Umberto - that's how I did it - just didn't delete the applic folder
Will do it tomorrow morning again and send u message at around
3 pm - do I have to take care of something special when I install again
Your sceneries ?
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 18, 2011, 11:07:30 pm
Umberto - that's how I did it - just didn't delete the applic folder

You said you left 2 addons installed. That's not how it's done. I've said to uninstall ALL addons, using their Uninstallers, BEFORE uninstalling FS9

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do I have to take care of something special when I install again Your sceneries ?

No, just follow *exactly* what I've said, which is:

Install Windows, install your video drivers and any additional driver that Windows might automatically suggest to install, install FS9, then the 9.1 update, then any of our sceneries. Don't do anything more, don't touch any file, don't change any settings. It should work straight away.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 19, 2011, 08:07:47 pm
Umberto - Started from beginning - installed windows new -
Than FS - than Upgrade to 9.1 - than your scenery dwf first -
Went fine - than JFK - not Installed automatically - same
PrOblems like yesterday - this issue cost me today 150 euro
As I took a professional guy to install everything - great
Spending hours and money and no improvement - it cant be
My computer software now !!!!!!
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: virtuali on March 20, 2011, 08:27:41 am
Umberto - Started from beginning - installed windows new - Than FS - than Upgrade to 9.1 - than your scenery dwf first - Went fine - than JFK - not Installed automatically - same PrOblems like yesterday - this issue cost me today 150 euro
As I took a professional guy to install everything - great Spending hours and money and no improvement - it cant be My computer software now !!!!!!

Sorry, but that's just not possible. You are the ONE AND ONLY ONE reporting this. If it was a problem of the sceneries, EVERYONE would have it. We are using Win7 x64 ourselves, to test FS9 and of course:

- ALL installers automatically add the sceneries to the Scenery Library

- ALL installers do the same thing, there's NO DIFFERENCE between them. Provided, of course, you are using all the current version that are on the site. Which means, it's just not possible that one would automatically install, and the other not.

- Everyone using them isn't having this issue.

A clear proof it's nothing related to our installer is:

YESTERDAY, you said KDFW didn't worked and didn't installed automatically in the Library. TODAY, you are saying "our scenery dwf first - Went fine"

The KDFW installer is obviously the same than yesterday so, fact it it now works, clearly indicates the installer was always fine to begin with, and it obviously works because you reinstalled everything.

The only possible explanation is that you did something between KDFW and JFK installation, which has resulted in a problem somewhere.

I'm out of office now, so I can't do much until tomorrow. Do you know the program Team Viewer ?

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx

With this, I can see your system remotely, and have a look what's wrong with it. Download and install the Free version, I'll contact you with PM or Email late this evening or tomorrow to start a session.
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 20, 2011, 10:54:19 pm
Umberto

I am the whole week in the us and returning on the 27 - will
Get in touch with in the 28 by mail so u can look at my
System

Tks marek

Btw - the professional guy that set up my computer put FS and
FS dreams scenery on his computer and he has the same pr
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 20, 2011, 10:55:25 pm
Problem as I have

Will be in touch take care hope y can help
Title: Re: again problem reinstalling all sceneries
Post by: viennaman on March 27, 2011, 02:33:59 pm
Umberto - today at seven pm - can u check on my computer ?

Marek