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Title: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: laxclipper on July 21, 2010, 09:41:26 am
Hello,

I would like to suggest that maybe KBUR, KSNA, KOAK, KRNO could make excellent aiport companions to fly to and from KLAS. I think most of us don't have enough time to complete a 2-3 hour flight. so a samller closer aiport makes for a very pleasant flight time. Plus they are not that big specially KBUR it would look great and it would be a must have for any pilots out there.

What do you guys think?

Regards

Edgar
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: virtuali on July 21, 2010, 10:36:48 am
We'll first need to evaluate sales of the upcoming Hawaii airports, to decide if making smaller aiports is economically feasible or not.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: scarebus on July 21, 2010, 12:05:31 pm
This is a great idea!!!! I would also love to have some smaller airports closer to fly to. Anything over 2 hours is boring, i prefer shorter hops. I think the Hawaiian airports are gonne do really well... they look great!!!!
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: cmpbllsjc on July 21, 2010, 01:00:45 pm
I agree. Now that we know another studio is doing San Francisco Intl, it would be great to see FSDT do something in SoCal like KONT or KSAN, both of which are relatively small airports.

In fact as quoted from Wikipedia "San Diego International is the busiest single-runway commercial service airport in the United States, and second in the world after London Gatwick, with approximately 600 departures and arrivals carrying 50,000 passengers each day, and a total of 18.3 million passengers in 2007. San Diego is the largest metropolitan area of the United States which does not serve as a hub nor secondary hub (or focus city) for any airline."

Frankly with the tons of photo scenery available for SoCal and the lack of airports that have been developed for the area, I am surprised that no developer has jumped in and started doing airports in that area. Hopefully FSDT or FT will be the first.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: Frank Lindberg on July 21, 2010, 03:46:01 pm
+1

Yes, small airports please.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: perryfincher on July 21, 2010, 04:44:06 pm
+2

Small airports would be cool.

Thanks
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on July 21, 2010, 04:51:12 pm
With FS9 slowing dying off, whoever does airports in SoCal or NoCal needs to make them compatible with the sceneries being developed by ORBX.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: newmanix on July 21, 2010, 06:52:00 pm
+3 for the small airports.

I assume if the imaginesim San Jose scenery sold well then John Wane or Bob Hope with the far more superior FSDT quality should do well too....


FS9/FSX of cource...
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: bradl on July 21, 2010, 08:28:22 pm

While I haven't seen anything commercial outside of mesh (read: MegaScenery), Shez Ansari and Gottfreid Riezak (Blue Sky Sceneries) have created at least 3 airports in the SoCal basin: KPSP (okay, Coachella!), KONT, and KSNA. All 3 are fairly recent and highly detailed. The airports, on top of the BSS scenery, give a great experience for there. I think Shez even did KBUR. All of them are available at AVSIM.

KSAN, however, I haven't seen anything for the San Diego area, so that would be a good one to do, if it should be done.

BL.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: PUP4ORD on July 21, 2010, 10:23:22 pm
How about Reno/Tahoe International Airport KRNO :)
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: SirIsaac726 on July 21, 2010, 10:34:41 pm

While I haven't seen anything commercial outside of mesh (read: MegaScenery), Shez Ansari and Gottfreid Riezak (Blue Sky Sceneries) have created at least 3 airports in the SoCal basin: KPSP (okay, Coachella!), KONT, and KSNA. All 3 are fairly recent and highly detailed. The airports, on top of the BSS scenery, give a great experience for there. I think Shez even did KBUR. All of them are available at AVSIM.

KSAN, however, I haven't seen anything for the San Diego area, so that would be a good one to do, if it should be done.

BL.


Those sceneries are great (and yes, Shez did a superb KBUR a while ago) and I take advantage of them quite a bit but for the FSX users out there, they are left with nothing.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: laxclipper on July 21, 2010, 11:04:58 pm
I personally would buy the Smaller airports with out a doubt, They are very realistic and give you better frame rates. I have a nice computer and I can run FSX with megascenery earth the whole California state plus Arizona and Nevada with the REX textures in my Ariane 737-700 and get 25 fps landing at LAX,  35-40 fps in mid flight and about 28-30 if I take off from KLAS FSDT. with 35 % Traffic X with all eye candy in very high settings. except for the traffic which I have low due to the stupid planes wanting to land right behind you. I rencently did a flight from KORD - KJFK and it was amazing to land and take off on 2 nice airports. I would love to be able to do that in California.
I love to have my FSX as real as possible and there are lots of photo sceneries out there for california and the west coast but there are no airports. I think KBUR would be perfect because of the nice approach and take offs there.

I hope to see these airports made by FSDT.

Edgar
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: bradl on July 22, 2010, 01:51:38 am
Another thing to think about..

Most Central or NorCal airports don't have much detail, or are lacking in it too much for any group to do.

Shez already did a great SBA. Someone else also did all of the central California airports (L52, KSMX, and KSBP). BSS did Half Moon Bay, and the scenery surrounding the Bay (KSJC, KNUQ, KPAO, KHWD); and two other groups are doing KOAK and KSFO (that I am aware of). The only other airports missing would be anything between the Bay and Reno (KLVK, KAPC, KCCR, KEDU, KSAC, KMHR, KTVL, etc.). Dave Biggar did made a very EXCELLENT KSMF scenery that I'd highly recommend. It should be available at POSKY, if not AVSIM.

BL.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: Joshua Dean on July 22, 2010, 10:15:42 am
I agree. Now that we know another studio is doing San Francisco Intl, it would be great to see FSDT do something in SoCal like KONT or KSAN, both of which are relatively small airports.

In fact as quoted from Wikipedia "San Diego International is the busiest single-runway commercial service airport in the United States, and second in the world after London Gatwick, with approximately 600 departures and arrivals carrying 50,000 passengers each day, and a total of 18.3 million passengers in 2007. San Diego is the largest metropolitan area of the United States which does not serve as a hub nor secondary hub (or focus city) for any airline."

Frankly with the tons of photo scenery available for SoCal and the lack of airports that have been developed for the area, I am surprised that no developer has jumped in and started doing airports in that area. Hopefully FSDT or FT will be the first.


FlyTampa have already done KSAN...
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: cmpbllsjc on July 22, 2010, 10:51:20 am
FlyTampa have already done KSAN...

Not for FSX they haven't. Any sceneries I ever mention that I would like to be done are always refering to FSX. I'm done with FS9 even though there are lots of airports for it and even if I wanted to stay with FS9 I wouldn't be able to because of the upcomming NGX from PMDG.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: laxclipper on July 22, 2010, 11:39:22 am
I guess I should have added that to the title, We need more small airports for FSX!!!

Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: skimmer on July 22, 2010, 10:11:25 pm
Seems like a lot of us agree on small airport additions and I bet thats only a fraction. I know I would like to see something in Mn.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: SirIsaac726 on July 22, 2010, 10:26:06 pm
Shez already did a great SBA.

Shez did Santa Barbara?
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: bradl on July 23, 2010, 01:15:11 am
Shez already did a great SBA.

Shez did Santa Barbara?

Pretty sure it was Shez.. it may have been Al Wheeler. When I get to my MSFS box, I'll verify.

BL.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: SirIsaac726 on July 23, 2010, 02:32:17 am
Shez already did a great SBA.

Shez did Santa Barbara?

Pretty sure it was Shez.. it may have been Al Wheeler. When I get to my MSFS box, I'll verify.

BL.


Searching through FlightSim.com, I was able to find scenery for SBA in FSX which means it surely wasn't by Shez and and one for FS2004 which also wasn't done by Shez.  You mentioned Al Wheeler though...I found a scenery for FS2002 by Al Wheeler.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: yankeesji on July 23, 2010, 04:50:03 am
Great idea....Also looking forward to the smaller Hawaii airports also.  I think those will do great also.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: bradl on July 24, 2010, 01:19:30 am
Shez already did a great SBA.

Shez did Santa Barbara?

Pretty sure it was Shez.. it may have been Al Wheeler. When I get to my MSFS box, I'll verify.

BL.


Searching through FlightSim.com, I was able to find scenery for SBA in FSX which means it surely wasn't by Shez and and one for FS2004 which also wasn't done by Shez.  You mentioned Al Wheeler though...I found a scenery for FS2002 by Al Wheeler.

It wasn't Shez. It was Al Wheeler's CCOAST scenery that I was thinking of, crossed with the HR and LR Santa Barbara scenery from BSS.

BL.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: SirIsaac726 on July 24, 2010, 01:27:13 am
Oh okay.  I might have to look into that as I fly some flights into SBA every now and then.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: duckbilled on July 24, 2010, 05:46:13 am
Or you could do a big one like PHX. Perfect companion for LAS.

Not knocking the smaller ones but the last version of PHX was done by Simflyers and it really wasn't that good for FS9 (It was designed for FS2002 I believe). It is a hub for two major US airlines. And no, I am not from Phoenix.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: anappy on July 24, 2010, 06:24:23 am
+1 for san diego
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: PUP4ORD on July 24, 2010, 02:56:28 pm
Or you could do a big one like PHX. Perfect companion for LAS.

Not knocking the smaller ones but the last version of PHX was done by Simflyers and it really wasn't that good for FS9 (It was designed for FS2002 I believe). It is a hub for two major US airlines. And no, I am not from Phoenix.
Their's even a more recent version for PHX done by Mach 1 for FS9 and one maybe out for FSX. :)
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: WillClark on July 24, 2010, 08:49:55 pm
Hello everyone,

I would love the small airports in CA idea....! Actually anything FSDT you can pretty much sign me up... Thanks again FSDT..!

CMBPLLSJC I guess we are neighbors....!

Have a great weekend...!

Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: cmpbllsjc on July 24, 2010, 09:05:11 pm
CMBPLLSJC I guess we are neighbors....!

We are? I don't remember stating in this thread where I live, however I have mentioned in the KDFW threads that I live in Dallas, Plano to be exact. Were do you live?
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: WillClark on July 24, 2010, 09:39:57 pm
Hey,

Well then honest mistake I was going off your screen name.... cmpbllsjc, campbell california and SJC being San Jose... LOL
Better looking women in Texas anyway ;) How did you come up with your screen name if you don't mind me asking? Hope you
are having a great weekend...
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: cmpbllsjc on July 26, 2010, 12:23:52 am
Better looking women in Texas anyway ;)

I wouldn't go as far as to say that. I think there is far more over weight nasty looking ones than there are good looking ones.

Unfortunately they dont all look like Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, lol.

I think South Florida in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area has a lot more good looking women.


How did you come up with your screen name if you don't mind me asking? Hope you
are having a great weekend...

Just initials of last name combined with first, middle, and last name.

Used to live in California once upon a time, a little south of Edwards AFB, in a town called Victorville. Have relatives in San Francisco however. My grandparents live in a tower across from the Embarcadareo Square on Davis and Jackson and I have a half sister in Pacifica. My Dad is from Palo Alto so he would almost be your neighbor.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: Aeroman on July 26, 2010, 06:15:05 am
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however I have mentioned in the KDFW threads that I live in Dallas, Plano to be exact.

Heyy, I'm in Arlington btw..


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I wouldn't go as far as to say that. I think there is far more over weight nasty looking ones than there are good looking ones.

Unfortunately they dont all look like Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, lol.

I think South Florida in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area has a lot more good looking women.

I'd agree..although we have our share of hotties, unfortunately the overweight crowd reigns supreme here.. 

I'd have to say, though, that SOCAL has the hottest girls =]  I think the women there are absolutely gorgeous!  Have you noticed there that soooo many people are outdoors always doing something like jogging, bike riding, or swimming?  Compare that to here where the biggest outdoor activity you'll see anyone do is walk from their car their house and vise-versa....  :-\
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: laxclipper on July 26, 2010, 08:33:17 am
I think that it would be a great thing for FSDT to always release aiports as a pair if they could, for example KFDW and maybe KAUS or El paso or even something in MEx. I know there are many other products out there but they do not perform as good as the FSDT. Because they were FS9 versions just modified to work under FSX. I personally only flight my 737 or A320 and a short 1:30 - 2:30 flight works great for me and probably for many more out there. I look at it this way: One is for Taking off and the other one for Landing or the other way around. Just like they are doing now with Hawaii, that is perfect because in my opion you get the complete new toy that way. ;D

BEst regards

Edgar
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: cmpbllsjc on July 26, 2010, 09:07:47 am
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however I have mentioned in the KDFW threads that I live in Dallas, Plano to be exact.

Heyy, I'm in Arlington btw..


Quote
I wouldn't go as far as to say that. I think there is far more over weight nasty looking ones than there are good looking ones.

Unfortunately they dont all look like Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, lol.

I think South Florida in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area has a lot more good looking women.

I'd agree..although we have our share of hotties, unfortunately the overweight crowd reigns supreme here.. 

I'd have to say, though, that SOCAL has the hottest girls =]  I think the women there are absolutely gorgeous!  Have you noticed there that soooo many people are outdoors always doing something like jogging, bike riding, or swimming?  Compare that to here where the biggest outdoor activity you'll see anyone do is walk from their car their house and vise-versa....  :-\

Hey another metroplexian, lol.

Yeah there are a lot of overweight people, guys and gals in Texas. It's like the Jerry Springer show in some of the smaller towns.

I agree that SoCal has a lot of good looking girls. Your right that in some town people are always active and in good shape. When I go to South Florida in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area, you see a lot of people running on the beach and riding bikes. I spent a few weeks in Rio de Janeiro this last winter and I have never seen more people running, jogging, walking, and roller blading anywhere else in the world. There was also almost a gym on every corner. People really take good care of themselves there and there weren't a lot of fat people. Overall the US has really gotten in a slump as far as people getting overweight. Even kids these days are getting fat since they dont go out and play anymore, they just sit around and play video games and watch t.v.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: simon747 on August 02, 2010, 01:33:22 pm
KLAX!!!
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: laxclipper on August 13, 2010, 03:20:57 am
I think since LAX is Upgrading the international terminal the best next thing would be to make KBUR and KSNA as pair. Then when all the changes at lax have been completed it can be done.

Burbank would be so cool and so would Orange county.

 :o
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: bradl on August 13, 2010, 08:12:38 pm
I think since LAX is Upgrading the international terminal the best next thing would be to make KBUR and KSNA as pair. Then when all the changes at lax have been completed it can be done.

Burbank would be so cool and so would Orange county.

 :o


I think we briefly mentioned this one before. I want to say that Shez Ansari made a very detailed version of both; both of which, as well as his KPSP scenery, are available at AVSIM.

In fact, the only large SOCAL-based airport not done is KSAN. To be honest, if any scenery would be made to pair up with a short (read: less than 2 hour) run from KLAS, the only airports FSDT could use (that no-one else is making) are KSAN, KRNO (perhaps a foursome; KRNO/KCXP/KMEV/KTVL), and KABQ.

BL.
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: global express on August 13, 2010, 08:58:35 pm
KSAN? Flytampa have done a San Diego scenery, although it's probably very out of date now.

KVNY gets my vote! 2nd busiest GA airport in the US!
Title: Re: We need some small airports in California to pair up with KLAS
Post by: simon747 on August 13, 2010, 10:46:51 pm
Never heard of it.  Hopefully they stick with LAX, SAN, PHX, SEA; things that will equate more sales for them as they have a more international appeal and long-hauls can be done.  Lived in Texas and Cali most of my life and want to fly to California more!!