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Title: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on January 22, 2023, 06:12:02 pm
Having GSX and P3D v5.3 installed after approx. 1 year with a new and clean setup I was annoyed that basic functions in relation to FSL (A320FAM) did not work:

1. Air Ground Start

FSL Forum Thread: https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/topic/32550-apu-inop-and-ground-start-via-gsx-asu-not-possible/ (https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/topic/32550-apu-inop-and-ground-start-via-gsx-asu-not-possible/)

[...]  during our last event we've started to implement technical deaviations to our aircraft to enhance the immersion for our flight crews. One of the items was selected because it was directly available throughout the FSL on-board failure system. ATA 49 APU (inoperative) was selected for one of our pilots for his entire rotation to simulate the requirement of an ground start for ENG1 and a subsequent pushback and cross-bleed start via of ENG2.

However, FSL failure system works fine, GSX does not allow this procedure. Starting ENG1 on the gate deactivates all ground services and terminates the Ground Power during ENG start which leads to an electrical shutdown of the entire system.

2. Aircraft Pushback

All of our P3D users acknowledged that after recent updates the tug "bumps" the aircraft into the air while initiating the pushback, which means a noticeable rumble can be heard and the aircraft nose will lift. The same thing, the other way around, happes while stoping the aircraft and disconnecting. This leads to the following strange behaviour with vPilot and VATSIM. (see picture)

https://i.imgur.com/z7xBhgN.png (https://i.imgur.com/z7xBhgN.png)

3. Auto-State triggered Functions

Departure: While parking at the gate and having the aircraft in cold&dark mode, the MECH button will not trigger any ground power arrival.
Arrival: Arriving at the gate, switching the aircraft off (ENG cutoff, Beacon Off, Parking Brake set) the jetway and deboarding process will not be triggered automatically. (see picture)

https://i.imgur.com/6YNfSwB.png (https://i.imgur.com/6YNfSwB.png)

3. Sounds

The new sounds are a mess and simply annoying. Especially for FSL users which have a complete sound environment and immersion, it's completly messing up everything. Could you pleas enable to deactivate all Boarding related sounds and all of those "xxx is arriving"? Simply unnecessary.

However, implementing the remote de-icing function is a big win. Thank you for this option!
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: athreeforty on January 22, 2023, 07:08:17 pm
I can confirm these issues.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Mats der Bruchpilot on January 22, 2023, 09:21:30 pm
true... pretty annoying
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: virtuali on January 22, 2023, 10:55:48 pm
The new sounds are a mess and simply annoying. Especially for FSL users which have a complete sound environment and immersion, it's completly messing up everything. Could you pleas enable to deactivate all Boarding related sounds and all of those "xxx is arriving"? Simply unnecessary.

Quoting from the release notes, date November 11th:

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GSX (all versions) NEW: Added option to Disable Voice cues during various operations.

I'll take some time to verify all the other things you reported, I'm just replying to this one now, because it jumped at me. Please always check the release notes and updates and, of course, the updates on the manual too, because this is ALSO indicated on the manual, Page 33 of the current version:

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Audio Cues

This option is used to Enable or Disable the Voice cues during various operations, like starting Boarding/Deboarding or entering/exiting from the Editors.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: TheCaptain3618 on January 23, 2023, 03:17:56 am
I have the permanent fix for Audio Clues. Find them below.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: gregoryv on January 23, 2023, 06:49:16 am
Dear Umberto.
I can confirm I have the same issues posted here (1-3). Please look on them. Thanks.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on January 23, 2023, 09:15:47 am
Good Morning Umberto,

thank you for your feedback. I wasn't aware of any disable option, thus, none of my colleagues was. Maybe you should promote this in a different way?

The current version of GSX is frustrating all of our users. I think this is an absolute priority to be fixed as nearly no interaction with FSL is working anyhow properly anymore.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: StefanBravo on January 23, 2023, 09:41:28 am
The disable audio function does not work for me in P3D v5, but it does work in MSFS.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: TheCaptain3618 on January 23, 2023, 01:13:56 pm
We all have been waiting for the Pre GSX Pro 3 for MSFS Release update for FSX/P3D up to this day.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Eagle_For on January 24, 2023, 05:05:37 pm
Hello
I made a flight today. (P3D5.3 FSLabs A320)
From LFMN, apart from the hostesses arriving outside their transport, it worked.
When LICJ arrives, it is impossible to relaunch coualt.
One question, why do I have a "Start Coualt for GSX MSFS" icon on my desktop.
During my flight, this one appeared in the taskbar!!!!!
It's since this icon appeared that the problems arise in P3D5 for me.
What is its role for P3D. (I have MSFS but not GSX for MSFS)?
Can you delete this file because each time it is recreated.
Everything was fine before.
No way to get GSX to work as above and the patch is long overdue.
I hope to see him arrive very soon to regain confidence in FSDT.
Thank you for your reply.
Raymond
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: virtuali on January 24, 2023, 05:12:28 pm
I have the permanent fix for Audio Clues. Find them below.

Your fix is completely useless, since there's a proper option in the settings which, of course, is even more efficient a proper ( the code that plays the voice it's just skipped ), compared to the useless taking of a sound channel to play an empty wave.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: virtuali on January 24, 2023, 05:17:24 pm
The disable audio function does not work for me in P3D v5, but it does work in MSFS.

I can only confirm it works perfectly fine in P3D V5, tried it just now, it disables the messages like "Boarding requested", etc,. which were added with GSX Pro.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: StefanBravo on January 24, 2023, 08:17:44 pm
I can only confirm it works perfectly fine in P3D V5, tried it just now, it disables the messages like "Boarding requested", etc,. which were added with GSX Pro.
Interesting. I just tested it again: updated GSX to the latest version and verified 'Play audio cues' was unticked but I really got the audio cues again. In the log file I couldn't find anything about the sounds either (don't know if that's good or bad :-)).

Stefan
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: PavlinS on January 24, 2023, 08:40:27 pm
Sorry for that message. I realize that I keep the parking brake on nvm I need to turn it off to pushback. Seems that my P3D disconnected my messages on screen so I was sitting on the gate like idiot. Kha, darn, I am so silly........  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: srcooke on January 25, 2023, 06:30:54 pm

 verified 'Play audio cues' was unticked but I really got the audio cues again.

Stefan

The function does not work for me in P3Dv5 either, cues still play.

.ini entry = gsx_aural_cues = 0
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on January 26, 2023, 10:41:24 pm
Servus,

any news regarding this consistent issues which spread across all functions?
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Captain Kevin on January 28, 2023, 04:12:20 am
Your fix is completely useless, since there's a proper option in the settings which, of course, is even more efficient a proper ( the code that plays the voice it's just skipped ), compared to the useless taking of a sound channel to play an empty wave.
I know this isn't really relevant to the person you were responding to, but the setting only enables or disables it completely. You can't select which individual ones you want. For me, the only calls that would be relevant would be the fuel truck on its way and the one that tells me to load the fuel with the aircraft's refueling system. If I want to make sure that those are the only calls that play, the only way to do it would be to make the other ones empty wave files.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on January 28, 2023, 12:07:35 pm
Your fix is completely useless, since there's a proper option in the settings which, of course, is even more efficient a proper ( the code that plays the voice it's just skipped ), compared to the useless taking of a sound channel to play an empty wave.
I know this isn't really relevant to the person you were responding to, but the setting only enables or disables it completely. You can't select which individual ones you want. For me, the only calls that would be relevant would be the fuel truck on its way and the one that tells me to load the fuel with the aircraft's refueling system. If I want to make sure that those are the only calls that play, the only way to do it would be to make the other ones empty wave files.

For me this option simply does not work at all. Whethter I check or uncheck it, sounds are persistent.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on January 31, 2023, 01:58:32 pm
Hello, any feedback?
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: virtuali on February 01, 2023, 11:42:59 am
For me this option simply does not work at all. Whethter I check or uncheck it, sounds are persistent.

Here's a video showing the option to disable aural cues works:

https://youtu.be/oJYg4pzhhPA (https://youtu.be/oJYg4pzhhPA)
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on February 02, 2023, 04:46:28 pm
That's really nice to see, but for me and several other users, it does not...
What about the other issues, like misplaced sound files for pushback, pushback itself where the aircraft is thrown into the air for a second etc.?
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Ticostar on February 04, 2023, 05:05:37 pm
I can confirm the issue with the pushback "drop" after disconnecting the pushback truck, also this doesn't matter which airport. I have this issue with every pushback.
For the Air-Start issue:
I know that an option was implemented for starting an engine before pushback (that was mainly implemented for aircraft without APU) but even with configuring the FSLabs with this feature, requesting a pushback leaded to undefined waiting times (GSX Menu only suggested to complete p/b here or abort p/b). No Ramp Agent walking at all, Tow Truck not doing anything etc. Coutal restarts etc. didn't do anything
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on February 04, 2023, 07:00:51 pm
Because videos can obviously only show the problems:

Video:


00:46 Ready to Push and Tug in Position -> Tug not in position
01:16 Direction can be choosen
01:50 Release Parking Brake
01:56 Aircraft rumbles while the tug starts pushback
03:52 Aircraft rumbles while the tug is removed
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Michael Moe on February 05, 2023, 01:30:18 pm
Has the boarding integration with FSLabs changed? When i use the GSX from the MCDU the boarding started sounds makes a loop and after 15 or so loops the Couatl crashed and offcourse interrupted the loading.
FSL A321SL
Michael Moe
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on February 05, 2023, 04:05:51 pm
Has the boarding integration with FSLabs changed? When i use the GSX from the MCDU the boarding started sounds makes a loop and after 15 or so loops the Couatl crashed and offcourse interrupted the loading.
FSL A321SL
Michael Moe

Those are the horrible GSX boarding sounds. Same issue here. Just delete every "Boarding" sound in GSX. The only solution so far which was working.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: okupton on February 07, 2023, 08:06:22 pm
Same here regarding items 1-3 that started this thread. 
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: Alpolex on February 14, 2023, 02:26:32 pm
Good  support. Helped me to get rid of P3D and finally give up this hobby. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: virtuali on February 14, 2023, 03:47:44 pm
Good  support. Helped me to get rid of P3D and finally give up this hobby. Thanks :)

You REALLY "gave up this hobby" now, because you didn't like the GSX boarding sounds that has been there for years and you said yourself you know how to delete them ? Was that supposed to be a joke ?

Of course, the option to suppress them surely works. But now, given your reference to the sounds named "Boarding", it seems you are confusing two very different sound types, and the option only deals with the NEW ones ( called "audio cues" ) that give a feedback of the operation chosen.

NOTHING to do with the boarding sounds made by passengers, they have been there for years, and nowhere we ever said that option is supposed to remove those.
Title: Re: Several GSX issues with v5.3 and FSLA320FAM
Post by: yurirodin on February 14, 2023, 08:56:42 pm
Here's a video that illustrates the pushback "jumping" that was referred to in this thread. This effect happens at the beginning and end of the pushback process when the nosewheel is raised and lowered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZ1BsdqbBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZ1BsdqbBM)