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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: FX777 on March 07, 2010, 01:04:46 pm
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Hello FSDream Team,
I request to make Anchorage International Airpot PANC. Anchorage ANC is not like KLGA just with A319, A320, B737, B757...
You guys know PANC is major cargo hub and main cargo hub between the United States and Asia. All day all night Anchorage PANC is full with international cargo planes B747F's, MD-11F's, DC-10F's, B767F's, B777F's, AN-124 etc. And passengers B737's, B747's, B757's, B767's, A340's, DC-10 military charter, MD-11 military charter, A330 military charter, always heavy planes in Anchorage PANC.
FedEx hub, UPS hub, Alaska Airlines hub, Southern Air hub, Atlas-Polar, International cargo hub... etc.
Who knows where is Anchorage PANC and what is in Anchorage PANC they absolutely want Anchorage PANC same like JFK, ORD, LAX, HNL, ZRH, GVA, LAS... etc.
Now we are in 2010 PANC has changed alot is not like PANC freeware V4 in 2008, on that time freeware V4 was incorrect so many things was missing and ramps were wrong, only terminal was little bit fine but forget about it freeware V4 is over.
I appreciate all FSDream Team, please let's due it for any question about PANC any help I can help you no problem.
Thanks
http://www.airliners.net/photo/FedEx-Express/Boeing-777-FS2/1654771/L/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/FedEx-Express/Boeing-777-FS2/1654771/L/)
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I agree, we need a PANC for FS! :)
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I agree, we need a PANC for FS! :)
There are already a number of sceneries out for PANC.
Also, virtuali mentioned recently that the next scenery FSDT will release will have a K in it. Whether that means in the ICAO code or the full name of the airport, we don't know, and he hasn't divulged anything else. But IIRC, there is no K in PANC or Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport..
BL.
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Also, virtuali mentioned recently that the next scenery FSDT will release will have a K in it. Whether that means in the ICAO code or the full name of the airport, we don't know, and he hasn't divulged anything else. But IIRC, there is no K in PANC or Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport..
Thank you for that enlightenment! (we would've never figured that out without your input) :-\ AnyWho, i'd like to throw my 2Cents in for PANC also. ;)
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I agree, we need a PANC for FS! :)
There are already a number of sceneries out for PANC.
Also, virtuali mentioned recently that the next scenery FSDT will release will have a K in it. Whether that means in the ICAO code or the full name of the airport, we don't know, and he hasn't divulged anything else. But IIRC, there is no K in PANC or Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport..
BL.
Hi BL
Regarding your response "saying there is already a number of sceneries out for PANC" Well they are freeware and are basically rubbish. This is why we need a descent PANC and you know it will sell because of people mentioning it. I for one would buy PANC so maybe you might consider it?
Rgds
Jason
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Hopefully KDEN KPHX KIAH KHOU or KSLC
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Hopefully KDEN KPHX KIAH KHOU or KSLC
Or ksan
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FSDream team It's very easy for you to view PANC and make it how you see what you see in PANC.
Just go to GoogleMap http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=vl (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=vl) search Anchorage Airport and click street view and look around it helps alot. If anything miss I can help you. I live close by PANC 15 minutes drive.
Thanks
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Hopefully KDEN KPHX KIAH KHOU or KSLC
Or ksan
FlyTampa.com It is older but still amazing and doesn't need much of an update. I would LOVE a KPHX though.
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Hopefully KDEN KPHX KIAH KHOU or KSLC
Or ksan
FlyTampa.com It is older but still amazing and doesn't need much of an update. I would LOVE a KPHX though.
yeah KSAN is ok the way it is. But KDEN needs a real overhaul/update, we could definately use a KPHX and KIAH. There is not a real KPHX scenery out there other than a pretty good bootleg version which could use some FSDreamteam or Fly Tampa assistance. :)
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Hopefully KDEN KPHX KIAH KHOU or KSLC
Or ksan
FlyTampa.com It is older but still amazing and doesn't need much of an update. I would LOVE a KPHX though.
yeah KSAN is ok the way it is. But KDEN needs a real overhaul/update, we could definately use a KPHX and KIAH. There is not a real KPHX scenery out there other than a pretty good bootleg version which could use some FSDreamteam or Fly Tampa assistance. :)
A bootleg version? ???
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I agree, we need a PANC for FS! :)
There are already a number of sceneries out for PANC.
Also, virtuali mentioned recently that the next scenery FSDT will release will have a K in it. Whether that means in the ICAO code or the full name of the airport, we don't know, and he hasn't divulged anything else. But IIRC, there is no K in PANC or Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport..
BL.
Hi BL
Regarding your response "saying there is already a number of sceneries out for PANC" Well they are freeware and are basically rubbish. This is why we need a descent PANC and you know it will sell because of people mentioning it. I for one would buy PANC so maybe you might consider it?
Rgds
Jason
You do just realise you have insulted those people who have put a hell of a lot of time and work into putting the sceneries together, and giving them to you for free? Those include groups that put well detailed sceneries together, such as Mach-1 and FRF Studios. To be quite honest, if you believe that they are rubbish, can you develop sceneries for PANC any better? If so, the floor is yours.
Otherwise, let's be patient and wait until FSDT puts out a PANC, if they do so at all, and not knock anyone else's work while doing so. At least they have their scenery out. do you?
BL.
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Hi,
My intention isn't to insult anybody / developer who makes scenery,but just we could do with a good quality PANC.
I wonder if there is anybody else that is in agreement with me????
And my skills are not good at making scenery....I was just putting my point of view over in this thread liike others have. It is good of them to make them free I agree and am not disputing that as stated above we need a good quality one?? Or they could maybe change it / improve it and I'd gladly pay for it depending on what it looked like.
Maybe FSDT might do one but we'll just have to wait and see.
Jason
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I agree, we need a PANC for FS! :)
There are already a number of sceneries out for PANC.
Also, virtuali mentioned recently that the next scenery FSDT will release will have a K in it. Whether that means in the ICAO code or the full name of the airport, we don't know, and he hasn't divulged anything else. But IIRC, there is no K in PANC or Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport..
BL.
The statement about the next airport having a K in it was made by Flytampa and not FSDT.
As stated in "And the next scenery is" pinned thread I too would love to see a FSDT PANC but wouldn't mind a Vancouver (CYVR) Intl. as well. I also still have dwindling hopes of a FSDT Rome Fiumi. (LIRF).
@FSDT: In regards to Beijing (ZBAA) and the difficulty obtaining proper info to make the airport, have you guys tried contacting the Chinese airport authority or even the Chinese government? I know it's a little farfetched but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. They would probably love to promote their airport to the world as much as FSDT would love to make it and us simmers would love to fly in/out of it.
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Dre, I feel you bro on the Fiume. I just learned the LAGO Rome Fiume was really a Cloud 9 scenery. If only we could get that updated with AES. The scenery is actually a bit better than the ISD. As for CYVR, there is hope my friend, and hope says OH YEAH!! http://jgabbert.wordpress.com/
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I know about that freeware version newmanix ;). I was thinking of putting the link up for those who didn't know so I'm glad that you did :).
I remember when I use to come on this forum hoping/wishing/begging for a JFK and PHNL and right now they are sitting pretty in my sim, so until Virtuali says "NO" to Rome I will always have hope for a FSDT version.
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I know about that freeware version newmanix ;). I was thinking of putting the link up for those who didn't know so I'm glad that you did :).
I remember when I use to come on this forum hoping/wishing/begging for a JFK and PHNL and right now they are sitting pretty in my sim, so until Virtuali says "NO" to Rome I will always have hope for a FSDT version.
Actually, if I remember correctly, he did say no to any and all Italian airports. I'll see if I can find that post...
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IMO, we need KEWR, KLAX, KDCA, or PANC. I personally don't see what's so great about KPHX, but that's just me.
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Well KPHX is a great western airport. Even online there is a lot of the time someone running ABQ Center or Sky Harbor. PANC online is usually dead samething with KDC. KPHX is a huge hub for Southwest as well as KDEN. Also a US Air hub. :)
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IMO, we need KEWR, KLAX, KDCA, or PANC. I personally don't see what's so great about KPHX, but that's just me.
It is actually a very unique airport. There are three taxiway bridges, all the airside operations are a level above all the roads and terminal entrances. The only runways are three parallel runways. Hub to Southwest and US Airways. There are military operations on the field. It has a daily BA 747 arrival. The departure/arrival takes you right over the southern edge of downtown Phoenix (it is cool being inside chase field watching the planes climb above the city). There is unique terrain surrounding the entire Phoenix valley. Close proximity to ZLA gets Phoenix quite a bit of traffic.
That's all I could think of for now. :p :)
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CYVR is being done here: *FREEWARE*
http://jgabbert.wordpress.com/
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Hopefully FSDT can see the serious potential of PANC and CYVR and at least give them some strong consideration.
@Newmanix: If I'm not mistaken I think Virtuali said he wouldn't mind making a new Rome (LIRF) but probably wouldn't because of the poor sales of the old one. My counter point was that FSDT's status in the FS world is such that anything they make will sell and a popular place like Rome would sell well.
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Hopefully FSDT can see the serious potential of PANC and CYVR and at least give them some strong consideration.
@Newmanix: If I'm not mistaken I think Virtuali said he wouldn't mind making a new Rome (LIRF) but probably wouldn't because of the poor sales of the old one. My counter point was that FSDT's status in the FS world is such that anything they make will sell and a popular place like Rome would sell well.
PANC maybe but not CYVR. On the account that someone else is making it and it looks good.
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Hopefully FSDT can see the serious potential of PANC and CYVR and at least give them some strong consideration.
@Newmanix: If I'm not mistaken I think Virtuali said he wouldn't mind making a new Rome (LIRF) but probably wouldn't because of the poor sales of the old one. My counter point was that FSDT's status in the FS world is such that anything they make will sell and a popular place like Rome would sell well.
PANC maybe but not CYVR. On the account that someone else is making it and it looks good.
Dude, freeware hardly factors on high quality payware sceneries. There was a very good freeware Zurich already out when FSDT released theirs and Virtuali has stated that it is one of FSDT's bestsellers. There was also a very good freeware Geneva on the market when the FSDT version was released. 9Dragons was hot s#!t right up until Flytampa shook up the FS world with their version. There's a magnificent FT KBOS V2 (freeware) that's been out for a while and that hasn't stopped people from buying the remake.
Point is even when there's good freeware stuff available a high quality payware version will hardly be affected by it. We don't even know just how good that freeware CYVR will be. While the visuals look good, FPS impact is unknown, as well as collision issues, or other scenery killers. So if payware developers were letting freeware stuff dictate what they make then we would be without a lot of fantastic airports that make our sim as addictive as it is.
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You sound like some of the people I've pulled over on a traffic stop. Just going on and on. :) it is just my opinion. I would just rather see an airprort that is at least occupied on a regular bases when flying on Vatsim. PANC. Is unfortunately not one of them. Occasionally Vancover is on occasunally. But again my opinion.
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I honestly can't see myself getting onboard with PANC myself. It's just too isolated... If FSDT weren't making more Hawaiian airports, I would have never purchased PHNL...
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You sound like some of the people I've pulled over on a traffic stop. Just going on and on. :) it is just my opinion. I would just rather see an airprort that is at least occupied on a regular bases when flying on Vatsim. PANC. Is unfortunately not one of them. Occasionally Vancover is on occasunally. But again my opinion.
What am I going on and on about? I respond to the comments that you quote my comments in, which I interpret as you addressing me directly. You continually bring up Vatsim numbers, but here's a newsflash, the majority of simmers don't fly on Vatsim (What's your estimate of Flightsimmers out there, now how many total people are on Vatsim...work that out). Scenery developers don't focus on "If it's not popular on Vatsim I won't make it" so you need to stop going on and on about Vatsim numbers. Some developers make what they like, some make it for what is most profitable, and a whole bunch of other reasons, I doubt Vatsim impact is one of them.
Vatsim controlled airports get popular as more high quality sceneries are created for them. So as these two are lacking top payware quality then no one really wants to fly online in/out a default international airport.
@newmanix: I take it you are a GA simmer as Anchorage is only 2.5 hrs from Seattle and Vancouver, 2.75 hrs from PDX, a little over 3hrs from SFO, a little more than 4 hrs from LAX and Vegas, Tokyo is 6 hrs the other direction (about the same as JFK to Heathrow or Paris). As for the area , it's not just one airport then absolute "nothingness". If anyone tried the default FS9 missions when the sim was new then you know the area has alot for GA/bush pilots. If you factor in stuff that's basic for nowadays simmers like REX, Activesky, Ult. Terr., GE Pro, etc. then this area is GA heaven. It's basically a heavy iron airport sitting in GA nirvana IMHO.
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You sound like some of the people I've pulled over on a traffic stop. Just going on and on. :) it is just my opinion. I would just rather see an airprort that is at least occupied on a regular bases when flying on Vatsim. PANC. Is unfortunately not one of them. Occasionally Vancover is on occasunally. But again my opinion.
What am I going on and on about? I respond to the comments that you quote my comments in, which I interpret as you addressing me directly. You continually bring up Vatsim numbers, but here's a newsflash, the majority of simmers don't fly on Vatsim (What's your estimate of Flightsimmers out there, now how many total people are on Vatsim...work that out). Scenery developers don't focus on "If it's not popular on Vatsim I won't make it" so you need to stop going on and on about Vatsim numbers. Some developers make what they like, some make it for what is most profitable, and a whole bunch of other reasons, I doubt Vatsim impact is one of them.
Vatsim controlled airports get popular as more high quality sceneries are created for them. So as these two are lacking top payware quality then no one really wants to fly online in/out a default international airport.
@newmanix: I take it you are a GA simmer as Anchorage is only 2.5 hrs from Seattle and Vancouver, 2.75 hrs from PDX, a little over 3hrs from SFO, a little more than 4 hrs from LAX and Vegas, Tokyo is 6 hrs the other direction (about the same as JFK to Heathrow or Paris). As for the area , it's not just one airport then absolute "nothingness". If anyone tried the default FS9 missions when the sim was new then you know the area has alot for GA/bush pilots. If you factor in stuff that's basic for nowadays simmers like REX, Activesky, Ult. Terr., GE Pro, etc. then this area is GA heaven. It's basically a heavy iron airport sitting in GA nirvana IMHO.
Sir, again on and on...not going to argue with you...pointless I am good on either scenery you expressed intreast in. Everyone is not going to agree with you nor me. So just relax. Do you live in the PANC area by the way? Also, PANC sounds like itt would be a great graphics benchmark tester, if that helps? :)
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Juniormafia I'm as relaxed as can be. I now live in Jamaica (moved from NYC a little over a year ago), so no I'm not from Anchorage nor have I ever been there. No one is arguing here, you are stating why you are not interested in PANC, I am stating why I am. There's nothing wrong with a little debate :) as long as it stays on topic and remains civilized.
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@newmanix: I take it you are a GA simmer as Anchorage is only 2.5 hrs from Seattle and Vancouver, 2.75 hrs from PDX, a little over 3hrs from SFO, a little more than 4 hrs from LAX and Vegas, Tokyo is 6 hrs the other direction (about the same as JFK to Heathrow or Paris). As for the area , it's not just one airport then absolute "nothingness". If anyone tried the default FS9 missions when the sim was new then you know the area has alot for GA/bush pilots. If you factor in stuff that's basic for nowadays simmers like REX, Activesky, Ult. Terr., GE Pro, etc. then this area is GA heaven. It's basically a heavy iron airport sitting in GA nirvana IMHO.
I do both VFR and IFR. PANC is too isolated for me on IFR flights. I only fly to AES enabled airports when flying IFR. 650 miles is all I have time for during the week. I do not believe in speeding up the time compression so I stick to airports that are closer together so I can do several short hops like JFK BOS roundtrip. Or even CDG to Madrid ETC. I am really looking forward to the Hwawiian island hops.
Don't get me wrong, I have done JFK to LHR under normal time compression but on those flights, I am not hanging out in front of the computer. In order for me to vouch for PANC, I need something closer in Canada with AES... or an Alaska airports package.... What else is good in Alaska for IFR flights?
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If by IFR you mean commercial flights then the next largest airport in Alaska is in Fairbanks (international airport with one of the runways almost 12,000 ft), there's also airports in Juneau (longest runway is about 8500 ft) and Kodiak (longest runway is about 7500 ft) that can handle commercial traffic. Obviously none of these have AES and to the best of my knowledge there are no payware offerings for the major airports of Alaska (FS9) which is a shame because it's one of the most beautifull places I've flown in the sim.
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
No I didn't know. So a million thanks for the info thepilot. Much appreciated. The best thing about it is it's being made by one of the "Big Three" (Flytampa, FSDT, Sim-Wings) so it's just about guaranteed to be awesome. **I have this big stupid grin on my face right now....so happy.**
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
No I didn't know. So a million thanks for the info thepilot. Much appreciated. The best thing about it is it's being made by one of the "Big Three" (Flytampa, FSDT, Sim-Wings) so it's just about guaranteed to be awesome. **I have this big stupid grin on my face right now....so happy.**
I am glad you are happy too.
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
No I didn't know. So a million thanks for the info thepilot. Much appreciated. The best thing about it is it's being made by one of the "Big Three" (Flytampa, FSDT, Sim-Wings) so it's just about guaranteed to be awesome. **I have this big stupid grin on my face right now....so happy.**
Yes... it's going to be a blast. Especially if they include the terrain like they did in Mallorca for instance.
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
No I didn't know. So a million thanks for the info thepilot. Much appreciated. The best thing about it is it's being made by one of the "Big Three" (Flytampa, FSDT, Sim-Wings) so it's just about guaranteed to be awesome. **I have this big stupid grin on my face right now....so happy.**
Yes... it's going to be a blast. Especially if they include the terrain like they did in Mallorca for instance.
That's awesome news! thanks for the link thepilot :D glade simwings are doing it its gonna be a interesting place to fly into gonna have to take out my FedEx dc-10 ;)
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Already known?
Simwings will do both Anchorage Ted Stevens Int'l followed by Fairbanks airport, according to this post on the aerosoft forum:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=32689&view=findpost&p=215480
So, no need to beg FSDT to do it anymore ;)
No I didn't know. So a million thanks for the info thepilot. Much appreciated. The best thing about it is it's being made by one of the "Big Three" (Flytampa, FSDT, Sim-Wings) so it's just about guaranteed to be awesome. **I have this big stupid grin on my face right now....so happy.**
Well thats great,at least someone is making PANC ::)