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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Johnathan Pata on June 05, 2015, 01:11:02 am
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Hey FSDT,
I do not know if someone asked this but I was wondering if their is any updates on the progress of the sceneries?
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You mean new sceneries ? KMEM will be the next one to be released, and it shouldn't take very long. Most likely sometime during the summer.
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Sorry about that, I did mean new sceneries. Thank you for the reply, cannot wait to see the backdoor screenshots
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Very nice!! :)
I think the question was more about those "7 unannounced projects" you mentioned at the beginning of the year (was it 7??). As it's in the middle of the year now the one or the other person could be curious because almost nothing was heard about anything else but KMEM so far... exept a few hints that Baltimore and Charlotte Douglas could be 2 of them..
However, I think it's still better to announce something if there is something to announce and to show something if there is something to show - unlike some German publisher who tends to announce projects that have not even begun and that would never become reality in a few cases^^. Take the time you need to keep up that quality. However, I'm still curious what the other projects are.
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except a few hints that Baltimore and Charlotte Douglas could be 2 of them...
Yes, CLT is the one with has progressed faster right now, but there are others too, and yes, BWI is under development too. Since we are also working on a Cargo product, you can expect another very important airport from another large operator, to make a good pair with KMEM.
We don't have precise release dates (we don't usually have them for airports that are almost done...) yet, because we each airport is made by different (new) people, which are learning the trick of the trade of scenery design under our supervision, which means each one has its own different schedule.
We would be fairly happy if we could release at least 3-4 new airports this year, which is 3-4 times more than what we always did...
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Yes, CLT is the one with has progressed faster right now, but there are others too, and yes, BWI is under development too. Since we are also working on a Cargo product, you can expect another very important airport from another large operator, to make a good pair with KMEM.
So, it's KSDF?
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Yes, CLT is the one with has progressed faster right now, but there are others too, and yes, BWI is under development too. Since we are also working on a Cargo product, you can expect another very important airport from another large operator, to make a good pair with KMEM.
So, it's KSDF?
Same thing came to mind
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I really want to know the airport outside the US?!
Is it europa?
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I really want to know the airport outside the US?!
Is it europa?
Umberto has written many times that only U.S. airports will be developed.
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I really want to know the airport outside the US?!
Is it europa?
Umberto has written many times that only U.S. airports will be developed.
One of the unannounced airports was confirmed to be outside North America IIRC
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Yes you remember correctly. One airport is not in the USA and hopefully the aiport is in europa. :)
Read here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.1425.html
Page 96.
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They should give a timeline or a scheduled programme.
Flightbeam and Taxi2gate did so.
Furthermore FSDT should create more interactivity with customers.
The Facebook page has been updated since begin April.
You should pay attention to your image. You're not the number 1 anymore...
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They should give a timeline or a scheduled programme.
We'll post dates/timelines when we'll have them. For the ONE scenery we are reasonably sure of a possible timeframe, which is only KMEM right now, we HAVE discussed a timeline, in my last message.
Discussing timelines and schedules will ONLY result in more complains when we'll not meet them. It's not enough for you, that we already basically confirmed here KMEM, KBWI and KCLT, and gave enough hints that it should have been pretty *obvious* KSDF is coming too ?
Furthermore FSDT should create more interactivity with customers.
You mean, my 18.000+ post count is not enough ?
The Facebook page has been updated since begin April.
Some customers, instead, said we should not pay too much attention to social networks, because they are only for kids and not for "serious" simmers. We'll try to post something when we have something meaningful to post.
Would you rather prefer we spent all time interacting INSTEAD of making stuff ?
You should pay attention to your image. You're not the number 1 anymore...
Thank you, I didn't knew we ever *were* at "number 1", and now we even fell back from that spot too. You should have alerted me back then, so we could have taken more attention to the ones in the rear screen...now it's too late, it seems.
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Thanks for the amazing update! This year will be awesome with so many releases from you!
People don't be rude, obviously FSDT is still in the game and you heard how much they are planning to release, so why not cut the insults?
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The update for KORD would be VERY MUCH welcomed anyway :-)
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The update for KORD would be VERY MUCH welcomed anyway :-)
The one for KLAS, too. But I remember this was also talked about, after KMEM if I remember correctly. A really good year at FSDT!!
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Enough with updates. I want new scenery!
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Enough with updates. I want new scenery!
As already replied in my previous post, we are doing BOTH updates AND new sceneries.
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So KATL isn't in the works? Bummer :'(
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You could add KCVG to go along with KMEM and KSDF - it's now the #8 biggest US cargo airport and a huge hub for DHL/Polar/Atlas and still officially a Delta "hub"
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So KATL isn't in the works? Bummer :'(
I was pretty convinced that KATL was the "secret" airport project that was mentioned some time ago. What ever happened to that "secret" project? Is it still being worked on?
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As I told you, your forum doesn't give any informations about the futur seneries.
People are confused by your "secret" or "pretty obvious" scenery.
It's not the best way to attract customers. Or you publish a clear timeline with your ongoing project or you don't publish anything.
Flightbeam has given a clear timeline with KSFO, KMSP and EDDF. People know what's going to happen. Even if one scenery is delayed they have a clear idea of what's going to happen.
Look once at all your posts.People are wondering, you create uncertainty and that's not good for your business.
Thrust me, and maybe I'm not a "real simmer" as you told me but I'm a good commercial
So give us a scheduled or a timeline PLEASE
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As I told you, your forum doesn't give any informations about the futur seneries.
As I've told you, this very thread (and others too) gave LOTS of information about future scenery. I'll repeat them again:
KMEM is very likely to arrive before the end of the summer. This has been discussed ALREADY in the forum.
KCLT is progressing well, so is very likely to arrive before the end of the year. This has been discussed ALREADY in the forum.
KBWI is in development, but we don't have any idea of the timeline RIGHT NOW.
KSDF is in development too, but we don't have any idea of the timeline RIGHT NOW.
People are confused by your "secret" or "pretty obvious" scenery.
I don't see too many "confused" people here. If something hasn't been announced, it's because we have decided it this way. If we decided it this way, it's because we have our reasons to decide to discuss some project, but not others. Do you really believe that a company (any company) always disclose EVERYTHING they are working on ? Or have to explain whey they do ?
Or you publish a clear timeline with your ongoing project or you don't publish anything.
We have a basic idea of what we'll release in the next months/years, but we DO NOT have a "clear timeline". I don't even know precisely when KMEM (which is the project that has advanced the most) will be released, let alone the others.
Which is why, the best option is doing exactly what we are doing now, which is the opposite of the "either a clear timeline or nothing" you are suggesting, which is discuss informally what we are working on.
Flightbeam has given a clear timeline with KSFO, KMSP and EDDF.
Good for them they have one. And good for us too, since we are business partners.
People know what's going to happen. Even if one scenery is delayed they have a clear idea of what's going to happen.
Maybe you don't know what's going to happen. "People" in this very thread have guessed most of the project with the hints that has been given.
Look once at all your posts.People are wondering, you create uncertainty and that's not good for your business.
Our business is doing just fine, thank you. It keeps increasing, like it has been for the past 8 years.
Thrust me, and maybe I'm not a "real simmer" as you told me but I'm a good commercial
FSX addon development, and more generally gaming development is unlike any other commercial activity. You just cannot have precise timelines.
I'm still waiting to play my copy of the next Zelda game, which was SUPPOSED to be released last year...and companies like Nintendo have PLANNING resources (AND money) FAR mode advanced than any Flightsim developer could ever dream. Yet THEY cannot meet timelines for they most important releases.
So give us a scheduled or a timeline PLEASE
We'll discuss a timeline for the OTHER projects we haven't discussed it already, when they will progressed up to a point where we'll be comfortable discussing it.
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As I told you, your forum doesn't give any informations about the futur seneries.
People are confused by your "secret" or "pretty obvious" scenery.
It's not the best way to attract customers. Or you publish a clear timeline with your ongoing project or you don't publish anything.
Flightbeam has given a clear timeline with KSFO, KMSP and EDDF. People know what's going to happen. Even if one scenery is delayed they have a clear idea of what's going to happen.
Look once at all your posts.People are wondering, you create uncertainty and that's not good for your business.
Thrust me, and maybe I'm not a "real simmer" as you told me but I'm a good commercial
So give us a scheduled or a timeline PLEASE
Give you a timeline so you and others can complain if it isn't met? Doubt it.
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So give us a scheduled or a timeline PLEASE
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sounds like neither KORD nor KLAS update in CY2015 :(
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Actually, I have been really confused with a decision to chase KMEM as it's an airport for the very specific and narrow niche of customers (cargo lovers). Pretty much the same non-standard approach PMDG chose with their MD11 7-8 years ago. Technically, it was the plane people didn't need it at all. I bought it, flew it for a month and parked it forever.
Bottom line is that it's very sad to see when rare and valuable resources of the talented people (FSDT or PMDG - doesn't matter) are invested into questionable products.
Just my opinion...no offense
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Maybe the outside US scenery will be Auckland?
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Maybe the outside US scenery will be Auckland?
Orbx/FTX is working on it. Due out sometime this year.
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Actually, I have been really confused with a decision to chase KMEM as it's an airport for the very specific and narrow niche of customers (cargo lovers).
The "confused" here doesn't really have anything to do with the usage of "confused" by the other user, that claimed our statements about timelines to be confusing for him and not as precise as he wanted them to be.
Here, instead, you are questioning our decision to choose a specific airport, which is of course an entirely different matter than doesn't have anything to do with the argued level of communication and disclosure about future plans.
Pretty much the same non-standard approach PMDG chose with their MD11 7-8 years ago. Technically, it was the plane people didn't need it at all. I bought it, flew it for a month and parked it forever.
What does it mean "non-standard" ? Are you trying to say that, other than A320 and 737, real-world aviation doesn't exists ? I really hope this kind of reasoning is not shared by the community at large, because it's a self-defeating attitude that might eventually lead to the failure of the entire flight sim business as we know it.
What has drove us to keep doing this so far, was the idea that, with thousands of airports in the world, and so many different aspects of real-aviation, there are so many possible projects that will keep us busy for many years. The death of this (very small) industry, would be that very few developers would have to redo, forever and ever, a few "standard" products.
Which, for us, basically means redoing KJFK and KLAX forever. For PMDG redoing the 737 forever, for Aerosoft redoing Frankfurt forever, and so on...this business cannot be sustained very long, since nobody can't survive just with updates.
Note that, I don't pretend to be right. The market is always "right", even when it goes in the wrong direction. We are very aware that KMEM will surely not sell as much as KLAX or KJFK, but that's not all of it. We wouldn't made KMEM stand-alone, but we are also doing KSDF AND a GSX Cargo expansion too, so we hope the 3 together will make more sense.
But maybe it won't work, and it will be a great loss for the the whole flight sim community, because it would prove, once again, that even if users sometimes SAY things like "there are so many different airports that nobody wants to do, why you don't do XXXX", when they decide to spend *actual* cash, they "buy everything, as long it's a 737"...so to speak.
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sounds like neither KORD nor KLAS update in CY2015 :(
What do you mean with this ? As we said, many times already on the forum, work on these update will start as soon as KMEM will be released.
ALL the other announced projects, like KCLT, KBWI, KSDF, etc. don't have ANY effect on this, because each one is made by different people. Maybe you haven't see this post we made a while ago:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,10952.0.html
Someone HAS replied to it, so we have more designers available now, and each one is being assigned to a different airport.
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Umberto,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Memphis taking a little longer than other scenery's as you have a large cargo terminal and an airliner terminal to design?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Memphis taking a little longer than other scenery's as you have a large cargo terminal and an airliner terminal to design?
CYVR took about 15 months. KMEM is about half of that, and it's not very far from being done.
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Can we please see some screenshots? :)
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Further proof... You just can't please everyone!!!! Great Job FSDT! Keep up the good work, and
I, no, WE will patiently wait your release(s).
BTW, your STILL #1 in my book
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As I told you, your forum doesn't give any informations about the futur seneries.
People are confused by your "secret" or "pretty obvious" scenery.
It's not the best way to attract customers. Or you publish a clear timeline with your ongoing project or you don't publish anything.
Flightbeam has given a clear timeline with KSFO, KMSP and EDDF. People know what's going to happen. Even if one scenery is delayed they have a clear idea of what's going to happen.
Look once at all your posts.People are wondering, you create uncertainty and that's not good for your business.
Thrust me, and maybe I'm not a "real simmer" as you told me but I'm a good commercial
So give us a scheduled or a timeline PLEASE
The majority of FSDT's customers are those (like myself) that own ALL of their sceneries and aren't on here complaining about timelines because we're too busy enjoying the sceneries they've already published. There's no uncertainty here and their business is clearly doing well considering the recent expansion of their team.
Actually, I have been really confused with a decision to chase KMEM as it's an airport for the very specific and narrow niche of customers (cargo lovers). Pretty much the same non-standard approach PMDG chose with their MD11 7-8 years ago. Technically, it was the plane people didn't need it at all. I bought it, flew it for a month and parked it forever.
Bottom line is that it's very sad to see when rare and valuable resources of the talented people (FSDT or PMDG - doesn't matter) are invested into questionable products.
Just my opinion...no offense
How do you know cargo operations are a "narrow niche of customers"? Did you do marketing surveillance to determine this? I myself do not fly cargo ops, but no airport is a "cargo only" airport. I'll buy KMEM because my VA has flights going in and out of there, and I love FSDT's sceneries. Just because its the FedEx hub doesn't mean it only targets cargo flyers.
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Memphis and Louisville are also very well situated in my opinion: It finally connects the (Mid)west to the (South)east and the Caribbean. For example I have a lot of airports in the Western US as this is my favourite US region (KLAX, KLAS, KPHX, ORBX NorCal + PNW + NRM including airports, KDFW, KDEN, KLIT,...). But I also like to fly in Florida and the Caribbean. And so far there was always a big gap in between. As I don't like longer flights in the sim (and in reality I don't either), these are finally 2 locations that offer short haul flights into both directions. Atlanta also comes to mind, but that hasn't been made well enough so far.
So thumbs up again for the choice, and the GSX cargo expansion will come right in time for these airports. Very well planned!
And now we are patiently waiting. There are still more things to discover in the sim that we ever have time for. And actually there are more very good ready-to-buy addons than I could ever buy within my personal monthly limit.
So, happy flights and keep on the good work.
Cheers, Dominik
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The best thing about FSDT developing KMEM is that you can fly in and out of it and enjoy the airport without ever having to step foot in RL Tennessee.
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I actually think KMEM will do well. It's not only a cargo hub. Several airlines do serve the airport. That being said, given the fact almost every FedEx flight flies into Memphis, and given the number of payware FedEx destinations that are already available, and given the fact the 777 and 747 are 2 of the most popular heavy haulers, I think Memphis is set up well to sell a lot of copies. I'm looking forward to it.
Todd