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Products Support => GSX Support MSFS => Topic started by: Seralia on July 28, 2024, 02:52:07 pm

Title: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: Seralia on July 28, 2024, 02:52:07 pm
Hey

Is there a way to increase the Ammount of Cargo Wagons from 3 to 5?

I only have 3 Wagons at 100% load Level (Pax+Cargo)

Greetings
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: Captain Kevin on July 28, 2024, 08:59:31 pm
If you're using a SimBrief flight plan, it appears as though three is the maximum that will ever appear.

https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,31842.0.html
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: Seralia on July 28, 2024, 10:30:03 pm
OK, Thanks for this Information..

So. The Developer needs to change the max Loadingweight for the 777. Thats what i read out of the Posts^^
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: Captain Kevin on July 28, 2024, 11:18:17 pm
No, FSDreamteam seems to limit it to three containers for some reason.
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: virtuali on July 28, 2024, 11:24:16 pm
On Passenger airplanes, the maximum number of cart in MSFS is capped to 3 per loader, for the following reasons:

- profile creators specifically asked not to change this, because thousands of individually placed loaders in hundreds of existing airport profile made under the assumption the length was capped at 3, would have to be changed.

- we need to do our best to stay in the maximum Simobject limit, and each extra cart adds 13 extra Simobjects per loader = +26 objects in the sim, which in some cases might be enough to cross the limit and have objects starting to disappear.

The maximum number of carts is instead 5 on Cargo airplanes, because cargo parking spots are usually much larger and easier to maneuver, and they only add 2 extra objects per loader.
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: Seralia on July 29, 2024, 10:57:25 pm
OKay, Thank u for the explanation  :)
Title: Re: PMDG 777-300 only 3 Cargo Wagons
Post by: w6kd on August 04, 2024, 04:34:51 pm
If I'm reading the mail here correctly, on freighters the number of cargo carts/pallets is being determined as a proportion of the max cargo weight...e.g. 40% load gets you two of five carts, 60% gets you three, 80% four etc...

I think a better methodology would be to determine the number of carts based on an average pallet weight--6500 lbs/3000 kg is a good round number for the big pallets, and half that for the small half-width ones--and then cap the number of carts at 5 to observe the aforementioned sim limitations.  Bringing out multiple trains (similar to the way multiple pax busses are dispatched for large pax loads) would be more realistic still.

An MD-11 or 777, even with a relatively modest load of 100,000 lbs of freight is going to need way more than the six carts (3x two cart trains) I'm seeing.

Alternatively, allowing the user to set a fixed number in the config would be a nice option.

edit: also, in freight operations, we almost always "cubed-out" before we "grossed-out" the cargo bay, meaning that we (usually) filled the available cargo bay volume long before maxxing out the gross weight.  So weighting things towards sending five cart trains as a matter of course would be a better (more realistic) option than singles or doubles, especially with large freighters like the MD-11/777/747.