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Title: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on April 26, 2020, 04:53:03 am
The jetway model which is wrote on the topic is not capable with Airbus 321.The jetway is not enough length to connect with the door of 321 but there is no capable size even if I select another jetway model.Therefore, I hope GSX can provide more jetway size to select and fix the problem.Thanks.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on April 27, 2020, 11:46:59 am
The Upper Deck jetway model, as the name says, should be used only as a 2nd or 3rd jetway on parking spots that can accept the A380 so, it's not supposed to work on an airplane without an upper deck.

Of course, there are so many other jetways of the same brand to choose from, and basically all of them will work with an A321.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on April 28, 2020, 04:52:09 am
I have tried to use other jetway model but they are incapable.They are too low be connected with the D-Gates in Taxi2Gate VHHH ver. 2,so they cannot be connected.And for sure, there is A321 parking at D-gates in real world operation
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on April 28, 2020, 08:50:28 am
As I've said, almost all other jetways, except ( obviously ) the A380 model you cited, will work with an A321.

If the gate you want to connect them to is too high, you are supposed to use a connecting bridge of the "S" ( Slanted ) kind and there are so many, that it's basically impossible not being able to find a combination of bridge+jetway that wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 01:44:09 pm
.............do you understand me?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jc_Sn_OuHZfHLMaR20QzU3m92WDtIG50
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ecu9ujfrNcKN8id74HS79GRECvbCxk8o
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LuBtSIZX739MLr-dYSOwvlQe6t1WCSE1
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 01, 2020, 01:51:19 pm
.............do you understand me?

I obviously do but, looking at your screenshot, it seems it's you who hasn't understood what I've said. As I've said:

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If the gate you want to connect them to is too high, you are supposed to use a connecting bridge of the "S" ( Slanted ) kind

But your screenshot shows you haven't use any bridge. The connecting bridges are there for a reason and, the Slanted ones ( those with an S in their name ) are there PRECISELY to allow you to connect jetways with terminals that are higher than the jetway.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:01:17 pm
which one?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Yd2Kux6o-jDHMmDUVipMEwwTyTlF2GAy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vB-sk_Z_kZUOPN8qtugER7Sp5gMUnANl
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MIoLEAMTjiOwHLef4Fh_q0hqcgcGWiWM
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 01, 2020, 02:11:39 pm
which one?

The BRIDGE, not the Jetway!!
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:18:04 pm
This one?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CnlIsFBwALjQfO2YgG6zTCpiKeS1CTgG
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: Captain Kevin on May 01, 2020, 02:19:35 pm
This one?
Looks like it.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:22:34 pm
I will try, please wait
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:30:24 pm
Still not high enough ..
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Vvd9rVyMZqeq3n12cH54SqVOZ_PzTVK
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 01, 2020, 02:32:39 pm
Still not high enough ..

That's why there are many to choose from. Of course, the longer the Slanted bridge it is, the more height can gain along its length. And, with a longer bridge, you might want to use a shorter jetway model.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:36:49 pm
This is the longest ... still not high enough ...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-81--AYcb7Kk96xsArRDm7IKKQy00QNq
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 01, 2020, 02:43:25 pm
Try to use the "Higher" version of the JBT model, which are a bit higher than the Thyssen model, if you still cannot find a combination of jetway+slanted bridge that match the terminal, I would wonder how accurate that terminal really is. Which airport is that ?
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 02:45:08 pm
Hong Kong
https://secure.simmarket.com/taxi2gate-vhhh-v2-hong-kong-international-airport-vhhh-p3d-v4-v5.phtml
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10sohHOOoJZ7FhdIUgzjYHTIH27eOm95u
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 01, 2020, 03:06:40 pm
this one?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=14u1xX9A036p722f8p8YFLKmlAdTb3iig
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 01, 2020, 03:40:55 pm
Yes, but there are crystal models of the JBT "higher" version as well.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: b0968307302 on May 02, 2020, 03:47:41 am
The model height of the title is the best, but the A321 cannot be used. I am worried about how to solve it for a long time. I look forward to asking you to design a new one.


I found that the length of the inclined "bridge" does not affect the height, the height is the same, the short "bridge" is more inclined, and the longer "bridge" is not so inclined.

In addition, my English is not good, if you do not understand or strange, please let me know if you have trouble.
Title: Re: Related Thyssenkrupp Apron drive Two-tunnel Crystal upper deck 36/21 categories
Post by: virtuali on May 02, 2020, 11:36:43 am
The model height of the title is the best, but the A321 cannot be used. I am worried about how to solve it for a long time. I look forward to asking you to design a new one.

Sorry, no. That upper deck jetway is clearly made for the A380 so, if that's the only one that can connected to the terminal on THAT airport, the only possible explanation is the terminal must have been modeled wrong.

All our jetways have their real world dimentions, precise to the centimeter. Yes, in real life their height can be adjusted a bit to fit different buildings, but that's only to a point, because a bridge too slanted would be uncomfortable to use. When there's a significant height difference, sometimes two slanted bridges in opposite directions are used, but it doesn't seem the case at VHHH so, the likely explanation is the terminal is not modeled correctly.

I see neither Google Earth or Bing maps have 3d representation of the airport, which makes way more difficult for a scenery developer to assess buildings heights.

In fact, it seems it was a known problem for that scenery, see this post from several years ago:

https://forum.iflysimx.com/topic/1064-jetway-problem/

This is way before GSX L2, it seems the scenery had issues even with its own jetways.