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Developer's Backdoor => Houston Backdoor => Topic started by: juniormafia27 on May 29, 2023, 08:50:37 pm
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So looking at KIAH, for MSFS 2020. There seems to be a lot missing. Starting off with the chain line fence parameter and the road vegetation and signage that goes through the airport. Greens road is missing the aviation park just in front of rnwy 27. As long as this took to come out it looks like an FSX product. In comparison to other sceneries. My question is are these items that maybe updated later on in whatever update that may come. Or you just missed these items all together?
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I stopped reading at your message since the title.
If you really think KIAH "looks like FSX", it's useless to continue here, because when somebody that is not even able to recognize the MASSIVE update with things native to MSFS that has been made completely from scratch and things like resolution and PBR addition that has been improved, won't ever be satisfied with anything we'll add to it.
Your expectation are completely off base, for a 9.99$ scenery that has never be advertised as a full blown made from scratch new product, as if it wasn't already obvious from the price.
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Look.....I have LITTERALLY bout everything you have put out......so you can stop it. What I asked was a yes or no question..... I LITTERALLY live next door to the airport so what I saying is valid. You can choose to read or not it makes no difference to me. I simply pointed out the obvious. I don't sit on here day in and day out. So obviously I missed it(whatever you are referring too). Then when I seen the price. I was like ok...."I guess I got what I paid for". However, you call it massive....sorry...."MASSIVE" update. I call it FSX....Acceleration. Not everyone is going to like your product(s). However this is the first and only one I was not too fond of. So I apologize for your feelings being hurt. But it is what it is.........maybe I am too used to Flightbeam quality. :)
I stopped reading at your message since the title.
If you really think KIAH "looks like FSX", it's useless to continue here, because when somebody that is not even able to recognize the MASSIVE update with things native to MSFS that has been made completely from scratch and things like resolution and PBR addition that has been improved, won't ever be satisfied with anything we'll add to it.
Your expectation are completely off base, for a 9.99$ scenery that has never be advertised as a full blown made from scratch new product, as if it wasn't already obvious from the price.
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Look.....I have LITTERALLY bout everything you have put out......so you can stop it. What I asked was a yes or no question.....
The question is not the issue, the issue is your statement about "looks like FSX" is factually wrong, and that's what I have an issue with.
I LITTERALLY live next door to the airport so what I saying is valid.
You can be wrong even if you lived inside the airport.
Let's see a video from somebody that used to WORK AT THE RAMP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr3ONLXZtBI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr3ONLXZtBI)
And this was streamed with the original version, before the MASSIVE texture update, so MASSIVE, that it compelled another very well regarded YouTuber to post another video, aptly named:
Looks COMPLETLY NEW! FSDT updated HOUSTON, any Houston fans MUST SEE THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPicRDBvGPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPicRDBvGPQ)
I simply pointed out the obvious.
The only thing obvious here, is your failure to recognize KIAH doesn't look AT ALL "like FSX"
However, you call it massive....sorry...."MASSIVE" update. I call it FSX....Acceleration.
You are entitled to have a wrong opinion, so I'm entitled to contest it.
Not everyone is going to like your product(s).
Of course, there are people who believe the Earth is flat as well, everybody is different. But that's besides the point. The point is you seem to be worried about the FENCES! What is this fixation for fences anyway (and yes, the one in the current version has been improved a bit ), which made you completely not notice the things that really matters, like:
- Performance ( that should be the first thing that matters )
- Navigational accuracy
- Parking spots made correctly, with proper codes, no errors and good AI assignment and AI flow.
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Bro you are preaching to the choir. Not only live by the airport but at the ramp damn near daily.......Pushbacks, cargo, etc, etc......Just move on.....This version is FSX to me....period.....Definitely a $9 airport....IF THAT. Definitely not worth that long ass wait. Hope someone else will do a better version.
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Okay, let's do this. Here's the area by gate C8 and C9, as depicted on the chart and the FSDreamteam screenshot. You'll notice that this area doesn't exist in P3D.
https://i.imgur.com/hQwUB4x.jpg
And I guess you think the concrete here looks the same?
https://i.imgur.com/e52PNdf.png
https://i.imgur.com/7si6sHq.png
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Okay, let's do this. Here's the area by gate C8 and C9, as depicted on the chart and the FSDreamteam screenshot. You'll notice that this area doesn't exist in P3D.
That was just the most obvious improvement but, I really can't see how anybody couldn't possibly notice the huge and unmistakable and impossible to miss VISUAL changes. The only possible explanations would be:
- They don't even remember how it really looked like in FSX
- Something must be very wrong in their MSFS settings.
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Bro you are preaching to the choir. Not only live by the airport but at the ramp damn near daily.......Pushbacks, cargo, etc, etc......
And again, what being/working/living at the airport has anything to do with having said something factually wrong, saying "it looks like FSX", when it clearly isn't ?
Just move on.....This version is FSX to me....period.....
No, it's not, and anybody can see that.
Definitely a $9 airport....IF THAT.
I don't know what you are trying to say here. That an airport that cost 9$ IS WORTH 9$ ? Go figure... Or maybe it isn't ?
Definitely not worth that long ass wait.
You mean, instead of doing our duty to users that paid 29$ for GSX, and release weekly updates for it to improve it in every conceivable ways, we should have instead forgot those that already spent money, and move on the next product to bring new cash in ?
Hope someone else will do a better version.
No, they won't, because this airport is so big, that anybody trying to attempt that, would bankrupt himself in the process by working for years (the only way they could to a "better" fps-killing version ) when we would had been on the market for a long time with that bargain price.
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That was just the most obvious improvement but, I really can't see how anybody couldn't possibly notice the huge and unmistakable and impossible to miss VISUAL changes.
Yes, that's why I posted the last two screenshots for comparison.
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I do not think that it looks like FSX, as there are some nice parts of this scenery, but I also dont feel that this release of Houston lives up to the quality we have come to expect from FSDT.
Just like the person that started this post, I have a lot of your sceneries dating back to Pre-FSDT (Cloud9) days, and this one feels like a step back.
I really do not like the hotel rooms (day or night), and the interior of the terminal E at night. I can see some sort of Asian signs, and wierd looking faces on what I assume are some type of billboard.
I dont want to sound overly negative, because overall I am happy to have something better than default, and it is a lot better than default Scenery.
I hope that your team can find a way to make this scenery to the standards that we have to expect from FSDT.
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but I also dont feel that this release of Houston lives up to the quality we have come to expect from FSDT.
It surely does, because "quality" is NOT just "textures" or "number of polygons". Quality is a overall COMBINATION of ALL these things, some that for me matters even more, assuming we are discussing about a flight simulator:
- Performance. We are better of ANY big airport here, and it's not the scenery is "sparse", it's just very well optimized so it's not just performance, it's the combination of performance/detail/airport size.
- Accuracy of all the navigation data.
- Proper "AFCAD", with proper airline codes, correct parking positions, and no errors. Too many sceneries out there, even the one that cost way more than KIAH, are distributed with lots of errors in the airport layout, which you might not notice normally, but they become obvious when you use GSX, and the usual response is if GSX is behaving bad, it's GSX's fault, when in fact the real issue they are selling faulty product that would cause problems to both airplane AI and ground services AI but since nobody really cares about default ground vehicles and it's easy to blame weird airplane AI behaviours to the MSFS AI engine, those issues are never fixed. KIAH is basically flawless from this point of view.
- The GSX profile is extensive, and took about the same time some developers can do a small airport. Like more than 1500 individual Customized pushback routes, 150+ VGDS, 50 custom passenger walking lanes for both interiors and boarding passengers. There IS an obvious value in having a default GSX profile that is installed with the airport which has been made together with it and kept updated with it.
- The animated panels that interact with GSX on Terminals B and C are something never seen before, because they use brand new feature that has been added to the MSFS SDK very recently but, according to the SDK docs, is not even supported (but it is).
- The latest update that replaced those two (admittedly ugly) United airplanes in the two maintenance hangars, and use the GSX engine to automatically place some United airplanes taken from your existing collection of AI, it's a novel approach to Static airplanes that, again, is completely new. Traditionally, Static planes would steal a regular parking spot and they would be...static. Here, we don't steal a parking spot, and they change every time.
- The price. You just can't ignore the fact KIAH is sold for less than half price of any other large airport out there. The ones that also include the "hidden tax", which would require you to upgrade your video card because in addition to be more expensive, because they just went to far with modeling (or simply failed to optimize it correctly).
I can't post this in public, but if you are interested, I could explain to you in private how some recently released sceneries I'm sure you might say are up to some "high quality standards", are in fact showing an obvious lack of understanding how to optimize a scenery, and they could be much improved, if only the developer took a bit of extra care to that.
I really do not like the hotel rooms (day or night), and the interior of the terminal E at night. I can see some sort of Asian signs, and weird looking faces on what I assume are some type of billboard.
This is course highly subjective. Since this scenery is honestly presented ( obvious for anybody that knows our existing products, if wasn't already obvious from the price ), as a port from the previous version ( it's even called "V2" on the Home Page!!! ), we could have handled the terminals which were not remade from scratch in two ways:
- Just convert the existing textures as they were, so it would REALLY "look like FSX". Zero effort.
- Do some ACTUAL WORK to create the Parallax textures, which is the most effective way to give you the feeling of depth with almost zero cost on performance.
I hope that your team can find a way to make this scenery to the standards that we have to expect from FSDT.
This scenery is completely up to "our standards", because it looks massively better than default, it performs massively better than any other big airport out there, and it's priced extremely attractively.
I don't see many differences to our current best selling scenery (Zurich), other than Zurich is converted from a way older FSX product (it came out in 2007, KIAH is from 2014), it's way smaller, has a free alternative in the sim, and the price is the same as KIAH.
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Stop explaining this an that. I wasn't speaking for no one else. I was speaking from my observation. This airport was just not worth the wait. All the non-responses to our questions....as far as the status of this airport. If I would have known it was going to look like this. I would have never asked my damn self...... I thought I was going to see something different. Now I said what I said and that is that. At least the GSX has been improved....although it would be nice to see some of characters walk along the side of the aircraft during push back. But then again we "BEEN" asking for that.....or at least been on the wishlist.
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Stop explaining this an that.
It's not your call saying when I should stop.
I wasn't speaking for no one else. I was speaking from my observation.
You are entitled to voice your own opinion, even if it's wrong. I'm entitled to reply, but the difference is, I post for you (which seem to have failed to look at the airport carefully enough), but to offer an opposing view that might be useful for others as well.
This airport was just not worth the wait.
Again, your are surely entitled to have an opinion, but the moment you post it, you should be prepared to have it contested with facts.
All the non-responses to our questions....as far as the status of this airport
I don't know what you are trying to say here. It has always been clear this was going to be a port. An exceptional good one, with massive improvements, not a plain port, as everybody can see.
If I would have known it was going to look like this.
I don't think we ever said anywhere this would have been a completely remade from scratch airport. If that wasn't already obvious from the price.
I thought I was going to see something different.
What's really shocking here, is you don't see HOW MUCH KIAH IS different. Makes me wonder what was the point spending countless of hours improving models, textures, adding tons of stuff that WAS NOT THERE in the FSX version, adding many features never seen before in any scenery, and doing it without compromising fps, at a steal price to begin with.
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"It's not your call saying when I should stop."
It was a retorical statement.
"You are entitled to voice your own opinion, even if it's wrong. I'm entitled to reply, but the difference is, I post for you (which seem to have failed to look at the airport carefully enough), but to offer an opposing view that might be useful for others as well."
I looked at it close enough to call it trash. Apparently I am not the only one that feels the same way
"Again, your are surely entitled to have an opinion, but the moment you post it, you should be prepared to have it contested with facts."
AGAIN......This was DEFINATELY not worth the wait!
Port or no Port.....this was a terrible one.....Go look at KHOU(Houston Hobby Airport) just releast by Texan Simulations. That runs circles around your "PORT" with all the "UP GRADES". If this is what we can expect from your next ports......or you trying to recycle your past airports. I will be the first not buying.
I hope to god that someone else redoes KIAH cause this one, to me, is UNEXCEPTALBE......even for a $10 port
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- Performance. We are better of ANY big airport here, and it's not the scenery is "sparse", it's just very well optimized so it's not just performance, it's the combination of performance/detail/airport size.
Not with KIAH you are not better than any other big airport. Flighbeams Denver is a far superior scenery compared to KIAH (If you want to compare big airports). Better texturing, detail, performance..... Same with Drzewiecki Designs Newark airport and I can name a few other large airports that are better.
- Proper "AFCAD", with proper airline codes, correct parking positions, and no errors. Too many sceneries out there, even the one that cost way more than KIAH, are distributed with lots of errors in the airport layout, which you might not notice normally, but they become obvious when you use GSX, and the usual response is if GSX is behaving bad, it's GSX's fault, when in fact the real issue they are selling faulty product that would cause problems to both airplane AI and ground services AI but since nobody really cares about default ground vehicles and it's easy to blame weird airplane AI behaviors to the MSFS AI engine, those issues are never fixed. KIAH is basically flawless from this point of view.
Proper airline codes and parking....Really? Is that why I have Air France, Turkish Airlines, Lion and AeroMexico parking at Terminal A. Then I get Southwest and American at Terminal D.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968281099_e450d9334b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGChzR)Term A wrong Airline (https://flic.kr/p/2oGChzR)
- The price. You just can't ignore the fact KIAH is sold for less than half price of any other large airport out there. The ones that also include the "hidden tax", which would require you to upgrade your video card because in addition to be more expensive, because they just went to far with modeling (or simply failed to optimize it correctly).
You are right, I can not argue about the price. I just wish you would have told us that we were going to pay less and get less with KIAH ahead of time. This way we would not have our normal expectation of an FSDT airport. As for the "Hidden Tax", I have never had that issue. I am still running a GTX270 Super and have no issues with FPS or the texture quality... and that is with most features maxed out.
I can't post this in public, but if you are interested, I could explain to you in private how some recently released sceneries I'm sure you might say are up to some "high quality standards", are in fact showing an obvious lack of understanding how to optimize a scenery, and they could be much improved, if only the developer took a bit of extra care to that.
Yes please either message me or Email me. I would love to hear about this and just have a chat with you.
I really do not like the hotel rooms (day or night), and the interior of the terminal E at night. I can see some sort of Asian signs, and weird looking faces on what I assume are some type of billboard.
This is course highly subjective. Since this scenery is honestly presented ( obvious for anybody that knows our existing products, if wasn't already obvious from the price ), as a port from the previous version ( it's even called "V2" on the Home Page!!! ), we could have handled the terminals which were not remade from scratch in two ways:
- Just convert the existing textures as they were, so it would REALLY "look like FSX". Zero effort.
- Do some ACTUAL WORK to create the Parallax textures, which is the most effective way to give you the feeling of depth with almost zero cost on performance.
I understand what you are trying to do with the hotel and terminals, but it (in my opinion) didnt work. Is there a way to dim the brightness of the hotel rooms at night? and the inside of Terminal E look like they are from another airport, not Houston. Here are a few screenshots of what I am talking about....
This is the comic book faces and Asian characters inside Terminal E. By the way, the public area of this terminal is not 3 seperate floors. It is large open areas.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968159406_9bb8dfafeb_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBEpG)TermE Inside Night3 (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBEpG)
Closer look...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968517115_f1814c5d99_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGDuK6)TermE Inside Night2 (https://flic.kr/p/2oGDuK6)
Here is the windows at the end of Terminal E
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968141726_31ac0de83b_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBz9S)TermE End Windows2 (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBz9S)
Daytime Look...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968141876_7e643a69af_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBzcs)TermE End Windows (https://flic.kr/p/2oGBzcs)
Here is the hotel at night..... The building itself is done very nicely, but the room lighting does not add a sense of depth.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968621983_b8a9affb79_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGE2Va)Term B Hotel (https://flic.kr/p/2oGE2Va)
Lastly, could you please make the ramp areas brighter at night. Here is in sim....
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52968281069_fba6d18dd1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGChzk)Term C Dark (https://flic.kr/p/2oGChzk)
Real Life....
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52967541202_b6cc2ff646_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGyuD1)Term C Real Life (https://flic.kr/p/2oGyuD1)
I hope that your team can find a way to make this scenery to the standards that we have to expect from FSDT.
This scenery is completely up to "our standards", because it looks massively better than default, it performs massively better than any other big airport out there, and it's priced extremely attractively.
I don't see many differences to our current best selling scenery (Zurich), other than Zurich is converted from a way older FSX product (it came out in 2007, KIAH is from 2014), it's way smaller, has a free alternative in the sim, and the price is the same as KIAH.
I understand that creating a scenery and making everyone happy impossible. I guess I just had higher expectations since it was FSDT that was making KIAH and not some newby that doesnt know what they are doing. I guess I have learned my lesson to not expect consistent high-quality products from FSDT. I would have preferred a better-quality airport at a higher price. I think everyone would have.
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Not with KIAH you are not better than any other big airport
Yes we are, if you test it correctly, that is without fps locked and with same AI settings.
Proper airline codes and parking....Really? Is that why I have Air France, Turkish Airlines, Lion and AeroMexico parking at Terminal A. Then I get Southwest and American at Terminal D.
You seems to confuse here if the scenery has correct parking codes ( it surely has them ), with how the AI will make use of that information. We haven't obviously set those airlines that are not supposed to be there.
Here's the parking codes we set for all Gates at Terminal A:
FFT,SWA,NKS,ACA,DAL,ASA,WJA,AAL,JBU
And here's the ones for the Gates at Terminal D:
AMX,BAW,KLM,AFR,THY,VIV,ANA,VOI,AVA,SIA,SCX,QTR,DLH,UAE,EVA,ETH,UAL
You can see the parking codes in the scenery ARE correct, but they are only an hint to the AI parking system, which will use other criteria as well, like parking usage, availability of parking of the same size/type, distance from the active runway, etc. We can only do our part correctly, but saying the scenery doesn't have correct parking codes just because you saw Air France and Turkish on A or SWA at D, means not taking into account the issues with the AI system, which are in fact very well known.
You are right, I can not argue about the price. I just wish you would have told us that we were going to pay less and get less with KIAH ahead of time. This way we would not have our normal expectation of an FSDT airport.
You are not getting "less", you are getting "more", but the work has been focused on things more important that blind useless "detail" made only for showing off.
But that's not the point. This strategy proved to work multiple times, since our Zurich scenery is the absolute N.1 in sales, and it also an FSX conversion, from even an OLDER product than KIAH ( Zurich for FSX came in 2007, and we never updated ever since, KIAH is from 2014 ), it doesn't even have a completely NEW Terminal made from scratch, and Zurich even needs to face completion from a very good free alternative in the sim.
Yet user appreciated the good performance and the price so we just saw sales, and acted accordingly. Sure KORD is better looking than Zurich, but it's higher price makes it an harder sell so, the choice what to do was clear.
As for the "Hidden Tax", I have never had that issue. I am still running a GTX270 Super and have no issues with FPS or the texture quality... and that is with most features maxed out.
Then you must know something I don't, because my 3090 and my 4090 are struggling to keep fps I consider acceptable on any of the big airport released recently, if used with a complex airplane like the Fenix A320, with lots of AI traffic. KIAH is visibly faster, both from the fps counter but, most importantly, from the feel of way better smoothness.
I understand what you are trying to do with the hotel and terminals, but it (in my opinion) didnt work. Is there a way to dim the brightness of the hotel rooms at night? and the inside of Terminal E look like they are from another airport, not Houston. Here are a few screenshots of what I am talking about....
Please edit your ULRs to be clickable, by using the URL tab, I find it difficult to open them.
I understand that creating a scenery and making everyone happy impossible. I guess I just had higher expectations since it was FSDT that was making KIAH and not some newby that doesnt know what they are doing. I guess I have learned my lesson to not expect consistent high-quality products from FSDT. I would have preferred a better-quality airport at a higher price. I think everyone would have.
Again, you are lacking something we have, and you don't. Actual sales. If what you were saying were true or, at least, shared by the majority of users, we should have sold more KORD than LSZH, which is not the case.
Price matters way more than you think. For airports, most of the sales come from the Marketplace. Marketplace users are VERY different than hard-core users that "wanted to pay more". When there's a sale on the Marketplace, our sales go up like 5x there. We never had that effect when we do a Sale on OUR site, sales increase a bit for a few days, then they go back to normal. The Marketplace is a completely different place, but there's is where most of sales are made, and that drives development choices.
A very optimized and lightweight scenery, considering its size, like KIAH, is also very good for Xbox users. My son it's an Xbox user, and he doesn't want to use MSFS on Xbox anymore, because he said he cannot complete a flight that last more than 2 hours without a CTD, so we need to take into account that.
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- Performance. We are better of ANY big airport here, and it's not the scenery is "sparse", it's just very well optimized so it's not just performance, it's the combination of performance/detail/airport size.
Not with KIAH you are not better than any other big airport. Flighbeams Denver is a far superior scenery compared to KIAH (If you want to compare big airports). Better texturing, detail, performance..... Same with Drzewiecki Designs Newark airport and I can name a few other large airports that are better.
Yep Flightbeam is a FAR SUPERIOR. Maybe we need to advocate to them to make a version. KDEN was ABSOLUTELY ON POINT!!!! I mean to the T! FSDT dropped the ball on this one.
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Yep Flightbeam is a FAR SUPERIOR. Maybe we need to advocate to them to make a version. KDEN was ABSOLUTELY ON POINT!!!! I mean to the T! FSDT dropped the ball on this one.
I'm not sure if you just missed the quote, quoting somebody else, or these are your words.
Anyway, since we are at the quoting phase, let's quote some reviews from Simmarket:
https://secure.simmarket.com/fsdreamteam-kiah-houston-intercontinental-airport-msfs.phtml
No need to quote them there, they are for everybody to see and, funny thing is, the ONLY negative review there's, is from the ONLY user that is not a verified product owner.
Let's see something else, CptCanada, very popular YouTuber, this is the part where he gives his opinion about KIAH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jky71WVGPM&t=285s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jky71WVGPM&t=285s)
No need to adds anything more, he clearly understood what was our design goal : the AIRPORT SIZE/PERFOMANCE/PRICE ratio. And yes, he got a free copy from us (like he does for many other sceneries he use), but are do you honestly believe a YouTuber with 70K+ subscribers would risk his reputation (which is everything), just to save 9.99$ ? Really ?
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You seems to have run short of arguments, so you reverted to using memes ?
The facts are all there for everybody to see. You are free to continue to maintain a wrong opinion, doesn't change the obvious actual qualities of KIAH and the obvious improvements it got in just a week, clearly proving how much and how fast we DO listen to suggestions and take criticism seriously, when it make sense.
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You are the only one on here arguing. You are attempting to defend the trash scenery you put out. I believe it to be trash.....I am not the only one......I never said everyone. If Flightbeam or some of the other heavy hitters put out their version of KIAH. I would have never bought yours. I am willing to bet many others would have also, and your sales would have reflected that. If you don't believe me.....put up a poll and see what your results would be.
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You are the only one on here arguing.
You are arguing as well. In fact, you are the one that started arguing. The difference I'm posting actual factual arguments, you reverted to memes so yes, in a way, you stopped arguing, because you ran out of arguments.
You are attempting to defend the trash scenery you put out.
You are attempting to attach a perfectly fine scenery that is appreciated by lots of users, and I provided some evidence for it. By keep using this ridiculous terms like "trash" for a product that is clearly perfectly fine and everybody can see it doesn't look like FSX, at all, you are only embarrassing yourself.
I believe it to be trash.....I am not the only one......I never said everyone.
People believe what they want, they can believe in a Flat Earth, Chemtrails, fake Apollo landings, anything. For whatever crazy theory, I'm sure you can "I'm not the only one" believing that. Of course, you must be prepared for you theories to be dismissed with actual facts and opposing views.
If Flightbeam or some of the other heavy hitters put out their version of KIAH. I would have never bought yours. I am willing to bet many others would have also, and your sales would have reflected that. If you don't believe me.....put up a poll and see what your results would be.
It's always funny how some people think to know "everything", when they don't have data we obviously have that is...actual sales.
Any developer trying to do KIAH on a level of detail that would result immediately obvious it's "better", will have to put so much work (given how large KIAH is) modeling it first, and so much work optimizing if for performance, that he'll never recover the development cost, and he'll have to compete with an established version that works perfectly fine, is a very good performer, and it will cost half price.
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The min someone comes out with a better version of the mess you put out. I will be the 1st putting it on this forum. That day will come. Damn all the other BS you are trying to say. "This" scenery is PISS POOR. Just this one.....I can care less what you think beyond that.....So we will move on to see what the next scenery looks like.
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The min someone comes out with a better version of the mess you put out. I will be the 1st putting it on this forum. That day will come. Damn all the other BS you are trying to say. "This" scenery is PISS POOR. Just this one.....I can care less what you think beyond that.....So we will move on to see what the next scenery looks like.
The only "PISS POOR" thing here are you comments, which only demonstrated *again* how little you understood this product and its goal, which has been obviously full achieved. While it's surely possible that somebody else might do another version of KIAH, the problem is you are keep failing to understand what "better" really means, and that's the real issue.
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The min someone comes out with a better version of the mess you put out. I will be the 1st putting it on this forum. That day will come. Damn all the other BS you are trying to say. "This" scenery is PISS POOR. Just this one.....I can care less what you think beyond that.....So we will move on to see what the next scenery looks like.
The only "PISS POOR" thing here are you comments, which only demonstrated *again* how little you understood this product and its goal, which has been obviously full achieved. While it's surely possible that somebody else might do another version of KIAH, the problem is you are keep failing to understand what "better" really means, and that's the real issue.
I could care less about your "goal" or any goal.....PISS POOR simple as that. Stop trying to convince me otherwise. KIAH is a shitty airport, in my opinion. Expected much better than this. So stop trying to waste your time telling me this and that.....sales and a bunch of other bullshit that means nothing to me. I rather fly stock KIAH than this crap. So just chalk it up to the fact that you can't please everyone. Now I said what I said and it is what it is.
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I could care less about your "goal" or any goal.....PISS POOR simple as that. Stop trying to convince me otherwise. KIAH is a shitty airport, in my opinion. Expected much better than this. So stop trying to waste your time telling me this and that.....sales and a bunch of other bullshit that means nothing to me. I rather fly stock KIAH than this crap. So just chalk it up to the fact that you can't please everyone. Now I said what I said and it is what it is.
Your wrong comments only shows what can only be explained as:
- Your failure to understand the many ways a scenery quality should be judged
OR
- You are just trolling for the sake of it, because up to this point, you can't stand being proven wrong.
The scenery is not obviously "piss poor", and anybody can see that, and if you keep repeating it, you are only embarrassing more than you already have so, please, stop, for your own sake.
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Oh we still talking about this? Yeah...."PISS POOR" hot piss at that!
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Oh we still talking about this? Yeah...."PISS POOR" hot piss at that!
Why you express yourself like a 12-years old ? Maybe because you have been already proven wrong with actual facts ? Repeating something wrong many times, doesn't make it any more true: we already know your opinion but, if you keep pretending you have a right to vent it out, you must also be prepared to have it dismissed, over and over.
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PISS......POOR scenery and fix whatever Jetway issues being spoke about over in Mir's forum(Flightbeam).
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PISS......POOR scenery and fix
By continuing to repeat something that is obviously wrong (KIAH doesn't look AT ALL like FSX), and using such derogatory language, you automatically put yourself to be on the wrong side of the argument, because if you *think* your opinion has any merit, you should provide ACTUAL FACTS sustaining your thesis (and of course be prepared to have those questioned), which I have done, but you haven't. And you haven't done that, because you have no arguments to begin with.
whatever Jetway issues being spoke about over in Mir's forum(Flightbeam).
Since KIAH cannot obviously cause any "jetway issues" to other sceneries, I can only guess you must have switched now to some unwarranted GSX bashing, because you realized you didn't had any valid cases against KIAH, so you wanted to find a way to blame FSDT for anything, since there's just nothing you can factually say against KIAH.
So let's see if that is true or not, and let's start with the GSX Manual, Page 7:
IMPORTANT
The Configuration of 3rd Party Exclusion from Jetway replacement is done when doing any of the following:
• When you first Install or reinstall GSX
• When you perform a GSX Update
• If you Install/Reinstall/Unlink/Relink any FSDT airport
If you install a new 3rd party scenery, just installing it won’t result to automatically go here and reconfigure Jetway Exclusion, you should develop a habit to always check the GSX Config page after installing a new 3rd party scenery. Failing to do so, would result in Parking conflicts (visible as double Parking spots in the World Map), and Jetways malfunctions.
So no, GSX doesn't cause any "jetway issues" to any 3rd party scenery when it's installed, because those are automatically excluded during the GSX installation. Flightbeam sceneries do respect the standard package naming convention, so they ARE automatically excluded when installing GSX.
The only "issues" might happen when installing a 3rd party airport AFTER GSX. This is where having read the GSX Manual (which GSX users are supposed to do) would have helped, because it would have been obvious from the above explanation of the manual what GSX jetway replacement files are, and how the Config panel is supposed to be used.
And in a later update to the manual, we even added this suggestion, which will solve the problem completely without having any need to go back to the Config panel anymore:
If you never use default airports and you always have a 3rd party add-on for any airport you fly into, you might consider Disabling ALL GSX Jetway replacement files at once, by clicking the >>> button on the Enabled side, so they will all go on the Disabled side, and eventually Enable an airport, for that time you want to use the default scenery.
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I never said I personally had a problem with GSX.
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I never said I personally had a problem with GSX.
Which makes your comment on it even more out of place, because you reported something second-hand without even checking if those claims were true or their eventual reason (GSX users not reading the GSX manual), on something that doesn't even happen to you.
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I can't believe it went on like that. Like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Anyway...KDEN from Flightbeam is a mess. Terminals are all wacky, missing a ton of spots, all sized wrong, parking codes wrong, shit freezes on landing when there's weather (and yes, I have a buff system). The list goes on. Comparing Flightbeam's KDEN to FSDT's KIAH is like comparing a 2012 Ford Explorer to a 2023 Toyota Highlander that needs a car wash. Both are good cars, but if asked, I prefer the Highlander. I'll just wash it.
I never once got the feeling KIAH from FSDT felt like FSX. Maybe a little unpolished but the performance was great so who cares there's some grass and fences missing? If you're so concerned about what's going on INSIDE the terminals or hotels, I think you may have lost sight of the point of this hobby. If you want real world realism, you better haul ass to flight school, get your ATP, get hired at an airline and start flying the big irons. Then, when you pull up to the gate, you can stare all agape at the terminal in front of you while you exclaim, "IT'S SO REAL!"
Or, OR...maybe next time, you can let the developer know your disappointments with the product by not opening with an insult and comporting yourself with a better, more respectful attitude. Just a thought...