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Morten

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CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« on: February 21, 2012, 12:23:18 am »
Hi there

First of all, thanks indeed for this fantastic addon!!  :)

One thing, though, the CS 767-300 has been put into a wrong classification - which means that GSX only will work if you park at the Heavies parking/gates!
The CS 767-300 is classified as a Medium aircraft - not as Heavy!

I would appreciate very much if you please could correct this?? - as it is, it's pretty limited for us 767-pilots to find suitable gates all around!   :-\     

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Markoz

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 01:51:49 am »
Quote from: Morten on February 21, 2012, 12:23:18 am
Hi there

First of all, thanks indeed for this fantastic addon!!  :)

One thing, though, the CS 767-300 has been put into a wrong classification - which means that GSX only will work if you park at the Heavies parking/gates!
The CS 767-300 is classified as a Medium aircraft - not as Heavy!

I would appreciate very much if you please could correct this?? - as it is, it's pretty limited for us 767-pilots to find suitable gates all around!   :-\     


+1

I'm having this happen a lot at lot of the airports (because a lot of international airports don't have a Heavy Gate) when I fly the 767-300 to as well. :(

Mark
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marvic

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 04:35:22 am »
The airport parking use the AFCAD file to determine parking size, not GSX. The same thing happens with the B737-200 and small parking.
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=5941.0
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Morten

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 09:34:35 pm »
Yeah okay...

Just found out that the actual wingspan of the 767-300 is 0.78 m. too large in order to be accepted within the FSX/AFCAD standard limit of R23 m. for a Medium parking classification...  :'(  

I wonder what happens if I just simply reduce the wingspan a tiny bit inside the 767-300 aircraft.cfg..??  :-\
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 09:39:42 pm by Morten »
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marvic

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:22:13 am »
Quote from: Morten on February 21, 2012, 09:34:35 pm
Yeah okay...

Just found out that the actual wingspan of the 767-300 is 0.78 m. too large in order to be accepted within the FSX/AFCAD standard limit of R23 m. for a Medium parking classification...  :'(  

I wonder what happens if I just simply reduce the wingspan a tiny bit inside the 767-300 aircraft.cfg..??  :-\
Not sure about the wingspan thing, please keep up posted.
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Morten

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 02:05:52 am »
Ok, now I edited the cs767-300 aircraft.cfg - from wing_span=156.083333 to 150.80 feet and as expected, I'm now allowed to park at any Medium gate!   ;)

This gives me a parking radius of 22,98 m - max. is 23 m. for standard Medium Gates 
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Buggsy44

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 02:14:20 am »
I am also getting the same problem by parking my Level D 767 at FSDT KORD (United gates - medium, which United parks 767's in real life)
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Morten

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 02:25:01 am »
Quote from: Buggsy44 on February 23, 2012, 02:14:20 am
I am also getting the same problem by parking my Level D 767 at FSDT KORD (United gates - medium, which United parks 767's in real life)

Well, now you have a solution to the problem..!
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Buggsy44

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 02:41:43 am »
Quote from: Morten on February 23, 2012, 02:25:01 am
Quote from: Buggsy44 on February 23, 2012, 02:14:20 am
I am also getting the same problem by parking my Level D 767 at FSDT KORD (United gates - medium, which United parks 767's in real life)

Well, now you have a solution to the problem..!

Editing the .cfg won't affect any flight dynamics/airplane models etc.??
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Morten

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 03:05:00 am »
Possibly not....yet to be tested, so no guarantees here!!
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marvic

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 05:25:53 am »
Just a question, but 767-300 are heavy aircraft. Why are you suggesting they are classed wrong. 250,000 pounds or more makes it a heavy.
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Morten

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 07:25:53 am »
It is classified as Medium, period!
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mseiwald

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 08:31:39 am »
The B767-300 is for sure within wake turbulence category Heavy as the MTOW is around 350000lb. Every aircraft with a MTOW higher than 300000lb is classified Heavy with no exception. Only one is the A380 which is in category Super according to FAA. Even if the actual TOW for a flight is below this 300000lb the word Heavy has to be used on Voice communication when flying aircraft with a Certified MTOW higher than this 300000lb.

However the Category has nothing to do with the Aircraft dimensions but solely is refering to it's Maximum takeoff weight.

Edit: Of course this applies in Real World to the wake turbulences. Don't know how FS decides the parking category. But for the wake turbulence Aircraft category the 767-300 is Heavy.
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marvic

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 02:34:05 pm »
Quote from: Morten on February 23, 2012, 07:25:53 am
It is classified as Medium, period!
The weights put it in the heavy category.  Explain it.... Period!
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Gary

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Re: CS 767-300 - Wrong classification
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 02:43:07 am »
Quote from: marvic on February 23, 2012, 02:34:05 pm
Quote from: Morten on February 23, 2012, 07:25:53 am
It is classified as Medium, period!
The weights put it in the heavy category.  Explain it.... Period!
It looks like the battle of the newbies has begun! <VBG> I have trouble with the GSX fuel truck running into the left wing. I tried to apply the same logic as this thread and widened the wingspan of the Lear by 5 feet to see if the fuel truck would park 5 feet further from the wing tip. No joy.
Does anyone know what logic the fuel truck uses for parking next to GA turbin a/c?
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