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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #390 on: December 08, 2011, 09:49:25 pm »
One thing I'm concerned with and I'm no real world F18 pilot or researcher so don't know what would happen in the real world, but when you approach overspeed the control effetiveness falls to zero.  Is that a built in feature in real world to keep from over G?  I find if I am yanking and banking that you may exceed structural limits for short periods, but with the controls not working it makes you a sitting duck.  And if you happen to nose dive you can't pull out where you should be able to pull out gently without breaking up.  This link is a screenshot with some of the Underway gauges positioned.  www.dahome.net/fsxpics.htm.   I also found a hidden pearl that you might be interested in.  When you have a popup window like that of the HUD control open say in VC and you switch to outside view for a second the control disappears and you have to reopen it.  I found a post that described using the type=special tag in the Window?? section of the panel.cfg and it makes it stick even when switching views.  I've yet to figure out how to open the window in VC on startup though.   

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #391 on: December 09, 2011, 12:15:18 am »
Hi Sludge,

First thanks for the Test Sludge, I flew just a few passes last night around the AC, looking at the plane performance from the AC tower.  I haven’t successfully landed on the AC yet, still trying to manage the modified behavior. My first impression is a noticeable decrease in agility (normal, due to the changes in scalar parameters) and I experienced the same problem as Lvflyer…at high speed and attempted sharp turns, the plane wouldn’t respond and continue without deviating from its trajectory, not matter what action I apply on the stick... I will keep working on it. Thanks again.

Johan

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #392 on: December 09, 2011, 07:34:39 am »
Johan...

The decrease in agility shouldnt be to the point where you cant maneuver in low/dirty, so I may have to Skype you this weekend and get some real time feedback while we are both flying the same jet. I wanted it to keep pitch and rudder authority while dirty/slow but lose alot of roll authority. But I didnt want to get it soo unresponsive that you cant land on the boat.

Guess I took too much off the higher side of the curve when I was modding the AIR file? I'll tinker with that more when I get a chance as it deals with the AIR file tables/effectiveness curves than it does with the scalars in the AIRCRAFT.CFG file.

LVFlyer...

What speed were you flying at? You know Vmax is around 800 knots right? I'll go fly and see if I can replicate and then mod from there and get a fix out ASAP

For both you guys, what stick do you have and what are your response curves?

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #393 on: December 09, 2011, 05:42:11 pm »
At 700 very little elevator response and sluggish roll response.  Impossible to do a level wing course correction with rudder for small target allignment adjustment.  I'm not sure if that is available on these in the real world, but I do know you should have enough rudder to perform a knife edge pass.  At 800 no control at all.  I use a Real Flight hand held controller like that used for RC Simulation.  The response is usually extremely snappy.  I fly helicopters in FSX with it flawlessly.  Regarding the rudder, being a real world pilot, private piston planes and helicopter, I know you can turn a plane by rudder alone gradually while keeping the wings level.  On long cross-countrys, at least in my Mooney I fly by my feet sometimes.  Anyway in FSX it seems they have too much of a boomerang effect and the more rudder you give it in a flat turn the more it swings in the opposite direction when you go to neutral on pedals.  I had a real problem in the B2 and B1B with that and fought hard to change the air file to correct it.  I couldn't quite get the proper effect without making the rudder extremely sensitive.  So if you find any good tutorials on air files let me know.  They contain a whole lot of aeronautical engineering jargon.  I'm thinking it has to do with the actual air friction and how the plane reacts to that.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #394 on: December 09, 2011, 06:20:56 pm »
LV...

I got a better AIR file done last night was just unable to upload it here as I got a "download files full" something-or-other message, so all you saw was my reply.

When I get back home today, I'll send the new airfile so you can mess around with it.

Oh yeah, in real world we can do alot of stuff we cant in FSX. Its in the AIR file where you can tweak the "weathervane" effect of the rudder, but thats a whole nothing animal that I'd just not mess with til I get this set of problems done. And remember, thats why I decided to NOT incorporate any changes to the AUTO-COORD RUDDER system as I'm leaving that to user preference. I know it would be good to have in the carrier pattern, but I dont think it decently simulates anything close to the FBW rudder control system in the full flight regime, so I just left it out. If you like it, its easily enabled and if you dont, just leave it un-enabled.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #395 on: December 09, 2011, 06:52:08 pm »
Yep I got that same error when I tried to post the screenshot a few posts back.  Thought I wasn't allowed permissions or something.  I messed with the weathervane effect in the past.  Very sensitive, but then throws off the responsiveness and becomes too unrealistic.  I know you have to be gentle with wings level turns for real, but it eventually comes around.  In fact it is the preferred method to make small corrections on approach for ILS.  Once you tip the wings you can easily start chasing the localizer.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #396 on: December 09, 2011, 07:24:26 pm »
Hey Sludge,

This tweaking stuff is addictive!  ;D I've continued to tweak since my last post, mainly the aircraft.cfg. What values are in the .air file and how do you tweak it?

I agree, we need to get Mike's input on the legacy sim and the test Sludge hornet. The super hornet sim required lots of small inputs for the precise flying around the boat. The stick was constantly being moved in a small radius, the size of half dollar when in the groove. That is the flight regime I focused on for my unstable tweaks, I understand you are looking for proper response in other phases of flight. When I made the Sludge hornet more unstable, it kind of kept me on my toes requiring constant small inputs in the groove. I've continued to tweak the .cfg, and have leaned more towards stable values since i last posted. Also I fly using the warthog hotas, and our controller sensitivities and null zones might be different.

I am in Florida this weekend but let me know if you want to Skype next week.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #397 on: December 10, 2011, 12:23:38 am »
CAPT...

Yeah, its too addictive. Oh once you open the AIR file genie outta the bottle, get ready for 3am. Its great and it sucks all in the same breath.

Thats cool... we can talk next weekend, by then I should have my computer fully upgraded (video card, extra RAM) and migrated over to win7pro 64-bit.  Yes, yes... I know, I FINALLY am making the jump.

Anyway, have a great time time Florida and I'll yap at ya when you get back.

Later
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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #398 on: December 10, 2011, 12:34:37 am »
CAPT...
Thats cool... we can talk next weekend, by then I should have my computer fully upgraded (video card, extra RAM) and migrated over to win7pro 64-bit.  Yes, yes... I know, I FINALLY am making the jump.

Sludge,
 
Which video card are you getting? I was thinking of upgrading mine (an NVIDIA GTX 285) to a NVIDIA GTX 560 TI...I know that speed is essential for FSX, I have already a dual core 3.07 GHz.
I will look at responses for your earlier questions. I am using the Saitek X52 PRO.

Thanks,

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #399 on: December 10, 2011, 01:01:13 am »
Johan...

Got the nvidia gtx 550 2gb on the way. And I also use an x52, so at least we are similar. I'll put the new AIR file on SH.com, and just get you the link so you can try it out.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #400 on: December 10, 2011, 06:17:00 am »
Hello!
Why is your plane not turning in high speed? I have no problem, of course it's not a turn on a dime. I'm using Saitek X52 Joystick and Rudder Pedals Calibrated with FSUIPC... FSX axis are Not in use, they are disabled. Herb

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #401 on: December 10, 2011, 06:21:37 am »
Johan...

Got the nvidia gtx 550 2gb on the way. And I also use an x52, so at least we are similar. I'll put the new AIR file on SH.com, and just get you the link so you can try it out.

Later
Sludge

Thanks Sludge! Have a great weekend.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #402 on: December 10, 2011, 05:44:14 pm »
Fellas...

Here's the new AIR file that will let you turn at HIGH SPEED. Should also get some easier low/dirty PA handling in the pattern. Let me know if you have more problems.

http://www.sludgehornet.com/downloads/FA-18_AIR.zip

Simply UNZIP, copy/paste over the FA-18.AIR file in SLUDGEFA18_FX aircraft folder. Overwrite? yes.

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #403 on: December 11, 2011, 12:10:42 am »
Great thanks Sludge.  At least I can pull out of a dive now.  I also posted some new screenshots of testing the launch of and following alongside an AGM-84D in Underway connected to Naval Engagement if interested.  www.dahome.net/fsxpics.htm

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Re: Sludge/Combat Hornet Integrator - Released
« Reply #404 on: December 11, 2011, 12:22:03 am »
Great thanks Sludge.  At least I can pull out of a dive now.  I also posted some new screenshots of testing the launch of and following alongside an AGM-84D in Underway connected to Naval Engagement if interested.  www.dahome.net/fsxpics.htm

Hi Lvflyer,

Which weapon software are you using? It looks pretty good.

Johan