Author Topic: KCLT Runway 5/23  (Read 461 times)

DNICE

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KCLT Runway 5/23
« on: October 01, 2022, 08:45:16 pm »
Hello,

I have a question about KCLT runways 5/23. Is it a way to disable the runways? I notice when I use atc without filing a flight plan atc always defaults to runway 23. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: KCLT Runway 5/23
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2022, 03:06:17 pm »
I don't think it would be a very good idea to disable a runway that has a proper ILS procedures on both ends, meaning it surely used in real life, at least for landings.

Normally, unless the headwind component is too high for a certain direction, the default ATC should assign the longest runway with an ILS, and 5/23 are the shortest ones, and all the others have an ILS, so there shouldn't be any reason for choosing 23 over the others.

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Re: KCLT Runway 5/23
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2022, 04:24:24 pm »
I don't think it would be a very good idea to disable a runway that proper ILS procedures on both ends, meaning it surely used in real life, at least for landings.

Normally, unless the headwind component is too high for a certain direction, the default ATC should assign the longest runway with an ILS, and 5/23 are the shortest ones, and all the others have an ILS, so there shouldn't be any reason for choosing 23 over the others.



Thank you for your reply. The runway is not nearly used as it was back in the day. In fact, it has been buzz that the runway will be decommissioned in the near future for a fourth parallel runway. The only problem that I have when using the default atc with no weather, winds, etc... atc always defaults to runway 23 for takeoffs. Let's say once I get airborne and I make a request to land via ATC then I have an option to land at any of the parallel runways given the weather conditions. This is only the case if I'm just jumping in the sim for a free flight, doing touch and go's, etc...  If I file a flight plan I do not have this problem. Thanks for your time.

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Re: KCLT Runway 5/23
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2022, 08:30:15 am »
Hey Umberto,

I was wondering the same thing.  How would one deactivate 23 if a user accepted responsibility they’d lose out on 23?

Both AIG and FTL aircraft flock, almost exclusively, to 23.  It destroys the realism of this wonderful airport.

The real runway 23 is typically closed on ATIS for so long I can’t remember when it was open.

From my experience as a passenger, of late, it’s mostly used as a taxiway to get American aircraft to 36C for takeoff during departure waves.

It is slated to be permanently closed when KCLT terminal B and C concourses are expanded.  See link below.

The new terminal/ramp expansion will cross over 23.  The future capacity will be met with the planned fourth parallel runway and taxiway config that allows more simultaneous parallel operations and avoids the possibility of runway incursions (but provides a wonderfully long taxi to the gate a la 17L at KDFW). 

It also, unfortunately, gives you with another mega airport whose layout is fluid.

https://cltairport.mediaroom.com/destination-clt

Respectfully,

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Re: KCLT Runway 5/23
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2022, 04:51:02 pm »
We'll might disabling landing/takeoff there but, the AI system in MSFS is weird.

If you look a the Basel forum, there's a small grass runway there, which we defined (because it *is* an official runway), but it's completely closed for everything, takeoffs and landings, on both sides, yet in some cases AI use it, even when there are other proper runways, open and with ILSs, and in that case it's even more absurd, since the grass runway is parallel to the main one, so wind is not even a factor there.