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ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« on: October 25, 2019, 01:00:32 pm »
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First of all, my hat is off for the great, long-anticipated job.

While the ILS freq. for a pair of 10R/28L and 10L/28R are correct, they're conflicting with identical frequencies of other near-by airports (don't know which one), as the above-mentioned runaways were not a part of default P3D airports' layout. Hence, when I turn a freq for 10L/28R, a plane's radio sees it, but it's some other airport, not KORD :-) The navdata bases are the most recent ones

It was the same case as with Imaginesim KATL when they added 10/28, which does not exist in the default sim.I guess FSDT would been to add some file that alter the frequencies of conflicting airports. I would have done it myself, I would have known the names of those airports.
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 01:15:17 pm »
Please clarify which airplane you are referring to. The ILS surely work with a default airplane radio, because they are all correct and included in the KORD AFCAD so, you can be sure the simulator will know of the  ILS.

However, if you are using a 3rd party airplane that doesn't really "tune" the frequency, but searches the ID using its own database, that database might be the problem.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 01:20:46 pm »
FSLabs Bus and all PMDG stuff.

Not only I let the planes to set the freq up automatically, I also tune it manually as per charts (I know what I'd doing after 19 years of flight simming), i.e both freq and ILS are recognized, but LOC course is way off that tells me precisely that there is another airport is present in the vicinity. Hence, this airport should be ''disabled" - the common technique other developers do by creating a separate ADE file for this airport with it's ILS freq altered. 
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 01:31:54 pm »
As far as the PMDG aircraft go, there is an option  (not sure if it's under equipment or simulation or somewhere else) which turns off the automatic setting of the course after the "APP" mode is armed.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 01:33:20 pm »
ILS are recognized, but LOC course is way off

LOC for 28R works just fine here, with the PMDG 747-400, see the attached file. I haven't tried the others, but I'm sure they work as well.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2019, 07:49:12 pm »
Okey.

With NGX sitting on rnwy 28C with freq 108.95 set correctly I'm getting ID IRVG, not IVEZE. LOC is off, no glideslope

For 28R with freq 110.75 I have ID IIDN instead of IVQX. LOC is off, glideslope is present

Something is really weird....
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2019, 08:05:04 pm »
Okey - found the answer: somehow PMDG and FSL radios recognize old pair of 14/32 runways instead of new pair of 10/28 and id them first instead of new ones.

Any ideas how to fix it?
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2019, 12:23:23 am »
Are you using the current AIRAC or an older one.
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2019, 12:24:21 am »
Are you using the current AIRAC or an older one.

The latest one


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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2019, 06:31:21 pm »
Surely there aren't any runway 14/32 anywhere in our AFCAD, and I doubt they are still there in the current AIRAC so, something must still be outdated in the airplane own database.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2019, 10:55:01 pm »
Surely there aren't any runway 14/32 anywhere in our AFCAD, and I doubt they are still there in the current AIRAC so, something must still be outdated in the airplane own database.

With both FSLabs and NGX? Doubt it.
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2019, 03:25:16 pm »
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With both FSLabs and NGX? Doubt it.

If you use Navigraph, and don't run the FMC Data Manager, they will all be outdated to the last time you ran it so yes, it's very likely they will all show the same thing.

With both FSLabs and NGX? Doubt it.

As I've said, nowhere in our sceneries are any 14/32 runways. So, if they are not coming from the airplane FMC database, they are coming from a conflicting AFCAD of another scenery that covers KORD, like something that comes with an AI Traffic product, if not another KORD scenery.

The only thing sure, they are NOT coming from our O'Hare. If you don't believe it, just open our AFCAD ( KORD_ADEX_FSDT.bgl ) with ADE and check all the runways there.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2020, 01:56:03 pm »
Ok,

Still no solutions for my problem. Runways 10R/28L and 10C/28C still pose a problem with ILS ID as both PMDG and FSLabs tune for OTHER Freq with OTHER course (probably old default 14/32 rnwys). My AIRCAC is 2020, I have checked KORD for double AFCADS (no duplicates). All other runways are fine.

Please Umberto and other folks, check the problem runways' frequencies and let me know.

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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2020, 01:57:41 pm »
ILS are recognized, but LOC course is way off

LOC for 28R

10L/28R should work anyway (and it truly does) as the frequency and the course were both inherited from the default P3D. Check the other pair of 10/28's
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Re: ILS Frequencies for a pair of 10/28 outer runways
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2020, 03:07:47 pm »
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Please Umberto and other folks, check the problem runways' frequencies and let me know.

We already checked, of course, and as you can see, the scenery is perfectly fine, all ILS are correct. I gave you all the instructions to verify the scenery is correct, by opening it with ADE.