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Author Topic: KLAX FPS bad  (Read 1125 times)
Hawaiianstyle78
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« on: August 09, 2019, 08:40:52 PM »

I have Prepar3d V4.5. Ive spent the last 2 days modifying KLAX using Addon manager and customizing airport. I have brought everything down to minimums. I have personal ai traffic and set to 30%. I had approx. 20 aircraft at the gates in KLAX like 777 AAL, A340 Air Tahiti nui, 777 Virgin and some 737's a320's and a bit of md-11/767 cargo. My rig is i7-87000K OC 5.2 ghz , GPU is 1080 ti 11GB overclock, I have ridiculous cooling and my cpu temps at KLAX is at 38C and my GPU temp at KLAX is 35C.....Im in the Raptor or PMDG 737 or aerosoft a320 and my FPS is horrible . Major stuttering . its so bad I cant fly. From a distance and when in get close up to the terminal, I want to say (opinion) is that its the Terminal and building textures. Its like its not optimized at all. I have Flightbeam KSFO and 100% NO PROBEMS. also have LatinVFR KMSY, Imaginesim KLGA and LatinVFR and NO Problems. Why is this happening with KLAX? I heard Imaginesim has KLAX in development. I am not upset but discouraged why this is happeing. Also , FSDT has to many options like Gate textures, Logos, Marshaller, Parking control , underground fuels, ..this COUATL thing is driving me nuts. Just make it standard like flightbeam. Flightbeam and Latinvfr have a small popup window with few check marks for optimization and that's it. They all run smooth....back to my original topic...if anyone has any imput on settings, would love to take them in. ALso in the addonmanger, it has all these settings like poolsize, fiberframe, etc. A lot of those settings are from FSX time. I don't have them in my P3d cfg. Here is my P3d confige if anyone wants to see. This is driving me nuts.

thank you

[GRAPHICS]
SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10
VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=720
VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=480
VIDEO_CAPTURE_FPS=30
VIDEO_CAPTURE_BIT_RATE=3200000
VIDEO_CAPTURE_IS_THREADED=True
VIDEO_CAPTURE_INFO_SEND_RATE=20
VIDEO_CAPTURE_MAX_FRAME_SIZE=500000
VIDEO_CAPTURE_TTL=255
HDR_BRIGHTNESS=0.970000
HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.050000
HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000
TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000
TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.150000
HDR_SATURATION=0.850000
MAX_POINT_LIGHTS=250
MAX_SPOT_LIGHTS=250
RS_MIN_OBJECT_PIXEL_RADIUS=2.000000
ViewGroup_Number=-1
MAP_DRAW_THREADED=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096
NUM_LIGHTS=4
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DYNAMIC_LIGHTING=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=0
HDR=1
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=0
SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=0
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=0
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=0
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=0
PARTICLES_SHADOWS_CAST=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
OPAQUE_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=4096
TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512
OPAQUE_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
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EFFECTS_QUALITY=1
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
TESSELLATION=1
MAX_TEXTURE_REQUEST_DISTANCE=1000.000000
MOON_PHASE_LIGHTING=True
DYNAMIC_INTERIOR_CAPTURE=False
CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=6
TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=5
OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=4
CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=256
ForceFullScreenVSync=0
REFLECTION_PROBE_DELAY=20
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
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MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=7
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
VolumetricFog=0
DetailedPrecipitation=1
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
[DISPLAY]
TEXTUREMAXLOAD=36
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
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InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
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InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True
InfoCountermeasureEnable=True
InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=200
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=False
FullScreenBackground=False
FullScreenAutoFill=True
Fullscreen=True
TEXTURE_FILTERING=16
MSAA=4
SSAA=0
VSYNC=0
FXAA=0
TRIPLE_BUFFER=0
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AUTOGEN_DRAW_DISTANCE=12000.000000
AUTOGEN_TREE_DRAW_DISTANCE_PERCENT=0.900000
AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000
MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=1
POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1
AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_TYPE=0
SCENERY_DRAW_DISTANCE=32000.000000
[MAIN]
AlwaysFullLoad=1
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar
LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter
ShowInfoText=1
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
Location=-201,0,3239,1440,\\.\DISPLAY1
LocationFullScreen=0,0,3440,1440,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0
MAX_VC_TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=4096
PANEL_OPACITY=100
QUICKTIPS=0
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
PANELS_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
EnableDirectInput=False
JOYSTICKS=1
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
HealthPoints=1,5
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Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
HealthPoints=2,5
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Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[SlewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
HealthPoints=1,3
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Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
HealthPoints=2,3
[Avatar]
DefaultAvatar=Civilian Male White Shirt Blue Jeans
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LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[USERINTERFACE]
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=1
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1
RestoreTimeOnMove=1
ScreenshotImageFormat=2
Map_Orientation=2
BroadcastGPSData=0
MUTE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
ShowMessageText=True
UIHardwareAcceleration=True
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[SOUND]
Time_Constant=0
PrimaryPlaybackDevice={2652F902-7F47-4E5B-8ABE-3752D4855F3D}
VoicePlaybackDevice={2652F902-7F47-4E5B-8ABE-3752D4855F3D}
VoiceCaptureDevice={33173D92-478D-45FE-91AC-88A0A9D65986}
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
SOUND_FADER1=0.400000
SOUND_FADER2=0.500000
SOUND_FADER3=0.300000
SOUND_FADER4=1.000000
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=10
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=5
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=10
LeisureBoatsDensity=5
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=2
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=1
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=1
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
EnableRibbonVisuals=0
ShowRibbonUserObject=0
ShowRibbonUserAvatar=0
ShowRibbonAircraft=0
ShowRibbonGroundVehicles=0
ShowRibbonBoats=0
ShowRibbonAvatars=0
ShowRibbonWeapons=0
ShowRibbonCountermeasures=0
UserObjectRibbonColor=0,FFFF0000
UserAvatarRibbonColor=0,FFFF8000
AircraftRibbonColor=0,FF0000FF
GroundVehicleRibbonColor=0,FF00FF00
BoatRibbonColor=0,FF00FFFF
AvatarRibbonColor=0,FFFFFF00
WeaponRibbonColor=0,FF800000
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RibbonFidelity=5.000000
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RibbonThicknessSettingIndex=0
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RibbonThicknessMedium=5.000000
RibbonThicknessLarge=10.000000
RibbonFadeTime=-1.000000
RibbonDoNotExceedTime=-1.000000
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TESSELLATION_FACTOR=60
MESH_RESOLUTION=24
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=3
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=0
UseGlobalTerrainView=True
[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
UsePilotVoice=1
ShowATCText=1
PilotVoice=196608
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A
COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000
[INTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=0.000000
Torque=0.000000
GyroEffect=0.000000
CrashTolerance=0.000000
General=0.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=True
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=False
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=True
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=False
CrashDetection=False
AvatarNoCollision=True
OnCrashAction=0
MomentumEffect=True
[ATTACHMENTS]
WeaponHighlight=False
HighlightDuration=1.000000
AutoWeaponSwitching=False
UnlimitedWeapons=False
UnlimitedCountermeasures=False
IgnoreAttachmentWeight=False
IgnoreAttachmentForces=False
[RECORDER]
RecordAITraffic=True
RecordAirportVehicles=True
RecordLeisureBoats=True
[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=0
OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1
[STARTUP]
DEMO=0
STARTUP_DEMO=
LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1
LoadCorePlugins=1
LoadVirtualReality=1
EnableVirtualRealityOnStartup=0
EnableVoiceControl=0
LoadWindow=1
EnableVoiceControlDebug=0
EnableViveProEyeTracking=0
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COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[MISC]
Com_Rate=7
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Mode=3440x1440x32
[FlightPlanMap]
LineWidth=2
[MULTIPLAYER]
VoiceVolume=2.000000
FrameSyncRate=0
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 10:43:31 PM »

KLAX doesn't have ANY fps problem, and this is very well know. Here's a video test I made a while ago:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJnFeWU32hk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJnFeWU32hk</a>

Instead, the LOS ANGELES are is very well known to be very problematic if you use 3rd party global sceneries, that's why all your comments about other developers being smooth and KLAX supposedly being hard on fps, are wrong, because none of those other developers sceneries are located in the Los Angeles area so, you cannot possibly say what is REALLY causing your fps loss. It could be:

- AI airplanes not optimized for P3D in that area.

- Autogen

- Vector data

- Other conflicting sceneries

What's sure, which is proven quite clearly in my previous video, is that KLAX, on itself, doesn't cause any fps loss and it's comparable/better than any other comparably detailed scenery.
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molleh
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2019, 05:10:57 AM »

I'll bet you have OrbX SoCal installed. That addon has horrible performance optimization. I don't even install it anymore because the performance is just so bad, both in terms of frame rate and frame pacing/stuttering. I just stick with OpenLC North America with Vector and it's 90% of the quality of the full SoCall region and none of the performance problems.
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Hawaiianstyle78
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 10:26:08 AM »

hey guys,

I don't have ORBX socal. Only have ORBX global and ORBX NA LC. When im flying im maintain 50-60fps...when I get into LA and FSDT KLAX pops up from the autogen, my FPS drops to 20-25FPS on approach. I just did 20 laps In the raptor above the terminal . When I got to 2000 ft, FPS went up to 35-45, when I looked away from KLAX terminal it got 50-60 fps, when I panned back toward KLAX terminal it went to 20-25 fps. When I did those 2 dozen laps (approximately) around KLAX in the raptor I noticed part of the buildings are flickering absurdly. Its that grey concrete color that's got a huge FPS impact according to my SHIFT+Z FPS monitor top left screen. when im panning at those grey concrete terminals , its horrendous and its stuttering like crazy. This is all helpful info to you. Keep in mind I have ai traffic at KLAX at 25%. All aircraft are P3d v4 type like FAIB , FSPX. I had approximately 7 boeing 777, about 7 cargo 767's, a dozen total A320/737 at klax when I was monitoring the FPS. Why does terminal 6, 5, 4, 3 have that terrible Grey, flickering concrete to the building? its making a huge impact. The united /Southwest terminal is not that texture type. If im getting the stuttering in the Raptor at those low level altitudes....definitely did not happen with aerosoft a320 and pmdg aircraft. Any ideas?....based on my factual evidence I just flew 2 dozen loops above KLAX a3 1000-2000 feet? Any help would be great...thank u
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2019, 03:43:52 PM »

My video was taken with a non-overcloked 4 years old i7-6700 CPU and a non-overclocked Asus 1080 ti.

Are you able to test your fps at the same gate as mine, using a default aircraft ? Is that different compared to mine ?
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Hawaiianstyle78
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2019, 08:15:19 AM »

Hi,

You have no AI traffic at all there at KLAX. Its the default aircraft. I have 30 planes at KLAX and I am either using PMDG, Aerosoft, TFDI.

Can u please paste copy your P3d cfg. ?

I want to compare mine to yours.

FYI also, I just gained a ton of FPS. I had TextureMaxLoad=60 before and TextureMaxLoad=36 and had terrible stutters.

I changed it to TextureMaxLoad=15 and added FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01.....OH wow!!! gained a ton of FPS! but still have some stutter . It doesn't pan around like your at all and I have a i7 8700K overclocked to 4.7 ghz and have a GTX FTW3 1080ti 11 Gb .

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2019, 08:51:02 AM »

 Try deleting your p3d.cfg and let it rebuild a new one without the various tweaks. At the same time, try it with AI set to 0%.
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Hawaiianstyle78
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2019, 09:08:19 PM »

Well Dave,

nothing worked.

Deleted P3d cfg to let build new one and was 100x worse wow!

I placed my orginal config back in. I even deleted shaders and still nothing.

I took 2 photos but didn't include them. Im reading them off my phone right now. The 2 photos were in the Aerosoft a320 pro @ FSDT KLAX 25R. staring down the runway with frame rate calculator on (Shift +Z) I was getting 28.8 FPS and when I turned my head around facing the rear of 25R (basically the head rest of the A320 looking at Downtown LA) I got 51.9 FPS.

it happens in PMDG or TFDI. I don't get this with Flightbeam KSFO, LativVFR KMIA or Imaginesim WSSS.

Here is my current P3d Cfg. (FYI without TML=15 TBM=200 and FFTF=0.01.....I get horrible FPS. Those 3 setting are huge!!! )

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SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10
VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=720
VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=480
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VIDEO_CAPTURE_IS_THREADED=True
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VIDEO_CAPTURE_TTL=255
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HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.050000
HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000
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TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.150000
HDR_SATURATION=0.850000
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MAX_SPOT_LIGHTS=250
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LENSFLARE=0
HDR=1
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=1
SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=0
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=0
PARTICLES_SHADOWS_CAST=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
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IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
TESSELLATION=1
MAX_TEXTURE_REQUEST_DISTANCE=1000.000000
MOON_PHASE_LIGHTING=True
DYNAMIC_INTERIOR_CAPTURE=False
CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=6
TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=5
OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=4
CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=256
ForceFullScreenVSync=0
REFLECTION_PROBE_DELAY=20
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
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WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=7
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
VolumetricFog=0
DetailedPrecipitation=1
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
[DISPLAY]
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TEXTUREMAXLOAD=15
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
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InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=False
InfoStallEnable=False
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2019, 10:16:45 PM »

You have no AI traffic at all there at KLAX. Its the default aircraft. I have 30 planes at KLAX and I am either using PMDG, Aerosoft, TFDI.

Then why you think it's the *airport* then ? How's the default KLAX on the same settings ? Do you expect an add-on airport to improve on that ?

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it happens in PMDG or TFDI. I don't get this with Flightbeam KSFO, LativVFR KMIA or Imaginesim WSSS.

If there was a Flightbeam or LativVFR or Imaginesim KLAX, and you had a great fps there, then you MIGHT have had a point. Don't you understand the issue the Los Angeles area is very well known to be an fps pit, especially when stuffed with other scenery ?

In any case, here's the screenshot with PMDG and AI traffic, purposely taken in a place were you could see almost all airport buildings at once. No overclock of any kind, and no strange tweaks.


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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2019, 09:28:50 AM »

Well, have some good news but a lot of work had to be done...WOW! took me 3 hours to complete.

Using DXTbmp app, First I went into the KLAX_V2 texture folder and anything that had a 4096 texture, I had to convert that and its alpha channel down to 2048 resolution.

After that , I went into GSX2 and found the SODE_Static_Jetway Texture folder. Since I only use the Cool Gray texture, I had to go into that folder and convert the jetway textures with the alphas from 4096 down to 2048.

Lastly and which took the longest , I went into the SODE_Static Jetway Texture folder and located the "Texture" only folder. I assume it is the default because it had green and blue bump texture files and the fallback cfg file for the cool gray , brown etc jetway textures were all falling back to that "Texture " folder. Anyways , I had to convert all those textures and alphas from 4096 to 2048 using the DXTbmp app.

Once complete, I lined up at KLAX @ 25R in the aerosoft a320. I did that same lineup this morning and was getting 20-25 FPS.

Now Im getting 40-45FPS starting down the runway. Also when im on takeoff roll, I am in wing view looking at the terminal and no stutters as im lifting off. whereas earlier , major stutters.

GSX2 has to have the ability to let u bring down the texture files size from 4096 down to 1024 if u prefer. Also, I had clicked onto No HD textures in virtali and was still getting 4096 textures at KLAX.

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2019, 10:39:50 PM »

Yep, I have KSAN from ORBX, and KLAS from Flytampa, these two sceneries are pretty beautifull and heavy and are situated in the ORBX SOCAL area.
I get 30-35 fps.
When at KLAX, I get 15-20 fps and a lot of lag.

KLAX from FSDT is well know to have performance problems from the comunity, if you watch to twitch and follow the streamers you are gonna see it.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2019, 10:44:16 PM »

Yep, I have KSAN from ORBX, and KLAS from Flytampa, these two sceneries are pretty beautifull and heavy and are situated in the ORBX SOCAL area.I get 30-35 fps.

KLAS is located on a DESERT, and KSAN is nowhere near Los Angeles area, with its huge ( biggest in the whole world ) dense urban landclass, which attracts the most fps autogen there is.

As I've said already to the OP, he (or you) might have a point if there was a scenery for KLAX which looked as good as our own AND was faster, but there isn't.

KLAX from FSDT is well know to have performance problems from the comunity, if you watch to twitch and follow the streamers you are gonna see it.

KLAX doesn't have *ANY* performance problems, and I think I just proved, twice. The so called "community", and especially video streamers doesn't really have a clue *why* their performances are slow, since they use all kind of stuff that slow down their system, just to have their videos looking good, like AI made for FS9, unreasonable settings tweaked to the maximum.

The usual mistake, which some people keep doing here, is to compare different areas and saying "that scenery is slow", when they even realized their fps was already slow on default.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM »

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Once complete, I lined up at KLAX @ 25R in the aerosoft a320. I did that same lineup this morning and was getting 20-25 FPS. Now Im getting 40-45FPS starting down the runway. Also when im on takeoff roll, I am in wing view looking at the terminal and no stutters as im lifting off. whereas earlier

This clearly proves KLAX didn't had anything to do with your fps problem. Yes, I know it might sound weird but, you would have obtained exactly the same result if you resize all textures for your airplane, your AIs, the rest of the scenery. Anything you see consume texture memory, of course, not just the airport.

Your real issue is that, because of all the OTHER stuff you already installed, your Video ram was already CLOSE to getting full so, adding KLAX was just the tipping point from "all textures fits in VRAM = good fps" to "something doesn't fit = very bad fps", but you were already close, you simply cannot blame KLAX for adding A BIT to it, when most of your VRAM was already all used up.

And as explained so many times when KLAX came out, it doesn't "really" use 4K textures, in a way they are sharper. It use LESS 4K textures in PLACE of MANY 1K textures, which is how most sceneries are usually made, because using less bigger textures is faster than using many smaller ones, because each different texture it's a new material, which changes the state on the render pipeline, and breaks up material batching which the sim does internally to optimize speed.

So, for example, compared to the scenery we made before KLAX, which is KDFW, the overall texture memory used is about the same, but instead of using many 1K textures as in KDFW, KLAX uses less 4K textures, and this is faster.

So why KLAX is slower than KDFW ?

Because it's in the Los Angeles area!!, while Dallas is flat empty with not much features, no reliefs, nothing, and it's so easy on fps that doesn't require all the optimization we did for KLAX, which would be even slower, if we optimized it so much.

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GSX2 has to have the ability to let u bring down the texture files size from 4096 down to 1024 if u prefer.

The simulator itself has the ability to do that. If you set the max texture size to 2K, it won't use more than 2K textures, without any need to resize anything, which results in a loss of quality, because of decompressing and recompressing again, which is what you did.

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Also, I had clicked onto No HD textures in virtali and was still getting 4096 textures at KLAX.

I don't know what do you mean here. Haven't you said you use P3D ? The texture resolution option is not even *clickable* in P3D, because it's useless, since the simulator own graphic settings can go up to 4K. That option makes sense only in FSX, were you couldn't go to 4K texture without a tweak, so that option does exactly that, but in P3D the maximu resolution will be the one you choose in the simulator, so that option doesn't do anything and cannot even clicked.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 05:59:11 AM »

ok thanks virtuali and everyone else,

im officially UNINSTALLING fsdt KLAX, it is not optimized the way Flightbeams products are. I get KLAX is heavy region but if flightbeam can make a KSFO superb performance, than most likely someone (Hopefully imaginesim can with their in development KLAX) can.

BTW, I completely uninstalled all my AI aircraft , loaded up KLAX with the default Raptor and STILL getting micro stutters, screen tearing and general (I call it shaking from a distance with the textures...like they cant sit smooth, they are all jittery) stutters.

I just bought KPHX from Flightbeam hour ago and loaded up 99% traffic at KPHX and was on the runway with PMDG 777 and had 65 FPS. Went to Flightbeam KSFO with Aerosoft A321 99% traffic and had 60FPS (And KSFO is a known for being heavy FPS in the bay area with all the autogen and Oakland right next to it).

Anyways , thanks FSDT. I HAVE and Love your Hawaiian airports and PHNL but im uninstalling KLAX and GSX2 which his dragging very badly.

thank you
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2019, 04:55:51 PM »

im officially UNINSTALLING fsdt KLAX

What's the point, after you said that by reducing textures, you had good fps ? Of course, I already explained you could have obtained the same result by reducing other textures, you just chose to reduce the KLAX ones, but every texture contributes to your VRAM consumption.

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it is not optimized the way Flightbeams products are.

Yes, it obviously is, and I think I already proven, twice, even with a PMDG airplane and AI airplanes.

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I get KLAX is heavy region but if flightbeam can make a KSFO superb performance, than most likely someone (Hopefully imaginesim can with their in development KLAX) can.

No, you don't get it, apparently.

Los Angeles area is several times larger than the KSFO area, and it comes with a dense autogen area so large (have you even compared the metropolitan area of the LA city compare to SFO ? It's like 10x larger ), and dense urban autogen will slow down your fps even with a default scenery-

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BTW, I completely uninstalled all my AI aircraft , loaded up KLAX with the default Raptor and STILL getting micro stutters, screen tearing and general (I call it shaking from a distance with the textures...like they cant sit smooth, they are all jittery) stutters.

If you are still using the FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01 tweak, it's very well know that it improve fps, but it will cause A LOT of stuttering. Nothing that has anything to do with FSDT KLAX, of course.

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I just bought KPHX from Flightbeam hour ago and loaded up 99% traffic at KPHX and was on the runway with PMDG 777 and had 65 FPS. Went to Flightbeam KSFO with Aerosoft A321 99% traffic and had 60FPS (And KSFO is a known for being heavy FPS in the bay area with all the autogen and Oakland right next to it).

Already explained why it's wrong to compare two sceneries located in very different areas. And no, SFO is *way* lighter than L.A. In any case, you said you uninstalled FSDT KLAX.

- How's the frame rate now, on default, using the *same* settings ? Note that, this is not even a fair test, because the default KLAX has way less parking spots compared to our own, so it cannot show as many AI, so a proper comparison should be made with 0% AI in both cases.

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Anyways , thanks FSDT. I HAVE and Love your Hawaiian airports and PHNL but im uninstalling KLAX and GSX2 which his dragging very badly.

You have of course every right to make wrong decisions, but your problems didn't had anything to do with any of our products, and in addition to prove it, twice, with a video and a screenshot, I also tried to explain WHY, but you don't seem to be interested in learn something.
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