Author Topic: A BUNCH OF AIRPORT CONFIGURATIONS (100+) IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL  (Read 410654 times)

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #210 on: November 16, 2018, 11:38:51 pm »
Thanks for your reply. At the moment I've no time to write a mail in detail, but maybe tomorrow. In short, I'd propose to release two versions of the ini-files. One with jetways, and another one without (so that you could use it with native sode jetways). Then everyone would be able to chose what he or she likes. But it's not a big problem, as we can edit the files ourselves already.

For Frankfurt you did the best you can, but I think the A380 jetways and the jetways at terminal 2 don't fit regarding there height. At least if you don't insert an additional stair bridge which isn't there in real life. I think you're doing the best you can, and I'm very thankful that you improve everything when new updates with new features are released.
that is possible.. definetively after finishing v3. (dec14th, if i run...)..
The other issue, let me show you an example of why I think that what you are saying is not that easy.. I will take the example of EGLL (and I should not use this one because it was a surprise, but what the hell), by the time that scenery was developed, not even a380 where that common, or probably did not existed.. so lets see one of those gates that are very common in that scenery, 301. If you look at google earth, it has 3 jetways.. as does the scenery... but if you look at the height at which they place the OUTER jetway that nowadays serves business and first in the a380, is not good for an upperdeck jetway.. what options we have? only 3.
1. not good at all, putting a normal jetway that you cant use, because in reaching door 4L will hit the wing.
2. An upper deck jetway (we have 1 that does not reach long dist), it will leave the small bridge of the scenery hanging on its own...
3. put an overthe wing that as of today, does not exist but will do the job (by the way, this overthewing jetways that a few dont like is the future, EHAM has ordered them for all the heavy positionsof a380.. is even good for a320, cutting boarding in half)
in other words, when you have many options, sometimes you have to take what the system offers... i am sure that in the future we will have more options... not now.

AirbusA330

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 85
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #211 on: November 17, 2018, 04:04:23 pm »
I would still prefer to use a normal jetway like in reality. The 747 on your screenshot is not a good example, because on the A380 the doors 1L and 2L (lower deck) and 1L on the upper deck are used for boarding. As the first door on the upper deck is positioned behind the lower deck 2L it can be reached without problems with the normal jetway on the google earth screenshot. The first two jetways will reach the lower deck doors 1L and 2L as usual. The third jetway will connect to the upperdeck's 1L and therefor be tiltet a bit upwards. I've never seen an A380 being boarded through 4L.

On this photo you can see how an A380 is boarded when all jetways have the same height like on you Google Earth screenshot:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UHPxU8AcxEs/VHeu1i41OxI/AAAAAAAAOlI/6uz5r16HlsQ/s1600/5D3_6235%2Bcopy.jpg

And I think the A380 problem is not so imminent as long as we don't have a good A380 simulation. 747 and other planes are boarded through 1L and 2L only on most of the airports today.

Thanks for the info that schiphol ordered those new jetways for the aft doors - I'm very curious why they removed the big jetways for the aft doors of the 747 they had until some years ago if they order the same concept now again.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2018, 04:10:33 pm by AirbusA330 »

Swordfish

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #212 on: November 17, 2018, 04:45:37 pm »
Thanks again for all your effort doing this for the FS community!

Just a small question: wasn't Justsim EDDH also planned for this week's release? Or did I miss something?

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #213 on: November 17, 2018, 06:17:25 pm »
I would still prefer to use a normal jetway like in reality. The 747 on your screenshot is not a good example, because on the A380 the doors 1L and 2L (lower deck) and 1L on the upper deck are used for boarding. As the first door on the upper deck is positioned behind the lower deck 2L it can be reached without problems with the normal jetway on the google earth screenshot. The first two jetways will reach the lower deck doors 1L and 2L as usual. The third jetway will connect to the upperdeck's 1L and therefor be tiltet a bit upwards. I've never seen an A380 being boarded through 4L.

On this photo you can see how an A380 is boarded when all jetways have the same height like on you Google Earth screenshot:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UHPxU8AcxEs/VHeu1i41OxI/AAAAAAAAOlI/6uz5r16HlsQ/s1600/5D3_6235%2Bcopy.jpg

And I think the A380 problem is not so imminent as long as we don't have a good A380 simulation. 747 and other planes are boarded through 1L and 2L only on most of the airports today.

Thanks for the info that schiphol ordered those new jetways for the aft doors - I'm very curious why they removed the big jetways for the aft doors of the 747 they had until some years ago if they order the same concept now again.
oh really? i did not know that our standard jetways (not the upperdecK) can reach a 2floor of an a380.. Did you try it? that would be good news, otherwise, having 3 normal jetways on a parking is quite usless.. I have never ever seen a a380 flying on Vatsim.. maybe because the ones on the market are very very bad. 
You have not seen it because is around the corner, it is the future.. if is great for an A320, imagine for a 747 with 4 times the passangers... I read that EHAM (in real life is going to place them for 747).. cant stop the future: https://www.denverpost.com/2006/09/07/united-debuts-new-jet-bridge/  .. But dont worry, when i release the new version in the future for EGLL i will consider to leave the third jetway a standard one, although, it will not be of any use...
Cheers

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #214 on: November 17, 2018, 06:20:11 pm »
Thanks again for all your effort doing this for the FS community!

Just a small question: wasn't Justsim EDDH also planned for this week's release? Or did I miss something?
nop, you read in the previous configuration (that i removed from the bunch) folder of AS EDDH, that AS configuration will be removed and replaced by EDDH, although never said when. But yes, is for next fridays publication with another new scenery to celebrate 10,000 readers.
cheers

Swordfish

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #215 on: November 17, 2018, 06:28:30 pm »
Thanks again for all your effort doing this for the FS community!

Just a small question: wasn't Justsim EDDH also planned for this week's release? Or did I miss something?
nop, you read in the previous configuration (that i removed from the bunch) folder of AS EDDH, that AS configuration will be removed and replaced by EDDH, although never said when. But yes, is for next fridays publication with another new scenery to celebrate 10,000 readers.
cheers


You're the best!! Have a good weekend!

AirbusA330

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 85
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #216 on: November 17, 2018, 07:25:17 pm »

oh really? i did not know that our standard jetways (not the upperdecK) can reach a 2floor of an a380.. Did you try it?

No sorry I didn't I know that the real 3rd jetways in LHR can do it like you can see on the Foto, but I did not yet try it with the ones from GSX V2

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #217 on: November 17, 2018, 07:30:40 pm »

oh really? i did not know that our standard jetways (not the upperdecK) can reach a 2floor of an a380.. Did you try it?

No sorry I didn't I know that the real 3rd jetways in LHR can do it like you can see on the Foto, but I did not yet try it with the ones from GSX V2

look: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfvbib8bz7stfak/EGLL.mp4?dl=0
if we dont put this overthe wing, the 3rd regular jetway is totally useless

AirbusA330

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 85
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #218 on: November 17, 2018, 09:30:54 pm »
Yes, I understand that. I prefer the scenery to look as close to reality as possible, but there may be a lot of people who enjoy these jetways. Thanks, and keep working like you did :)

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #219 on: November 18, 2018, 01:17:29 am »
Hello guys,

I had a message from someone saying my configuration file for EKCH was giving him a very long error.. PLEASE remember to update the FSDT LIVE so you can get the latest liveries,logos,colors etc... otherwise if I place a logo that you dont have, for not having the latest additions, it will give you an error.


This is the example of error (as you can see, always mentions a logo... this is the Copenhaguen Airport Logo ('FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_2_5_LOGO_CPH') that was added in the last version, if you dont have it, it will give you an error:

couatl v3.2 (build 4059)
panic log started on Sat Nov 17 23:56:53 2018

problem raised by engine or unspecified addon
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
Error: exception CREATE_OBJECT_FAILED in call AICreateSimulatedObject param #1 'FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_2_5_LOGO_CPH'
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
Error: exception CREATE_OBJECT_FAILED in call AICreateSimulatedObject param #1 'FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_1_4_LOGO_CPH'
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
Error: exception CREATE_OBJECT_FAILED in call AICreateSimulatedObject param #1 'FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_2_5_LOGO_CPH'
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
Error: exception CREATE_OBJECT_FAILED in call AICreateSimulatedObject param #1 'FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_1_4_LOGO_CPH'
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
Error: exception CREATE_OBJECT_FAILED in call AICreateSimulatedObject param #1 'FSDT_SODE_JW_JBT_1_4_LOGO_CPH'
{'Airport': 'EKCH', 'User Pos': (55.62878888894637, 12.640661111110486, 8.09184 m, 2.91084 m, 11.199999999999996)}
....
....
....

Cheers.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 01:19:09 am by cartayna »

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #220 on: November 18, 2018, 10:09:58 am »
*************  VIP  UPDATE OF EDDF FILES ****************
Hello guys!

I found the hard way that if you change the name of an .ini file, GSX totall screws your configuration (there were plenty of jetways without numbers or adds). I also found that there were a few parkings on EDDF that had a docking when in fact i should not. 

So make sure that if you have downloaded v3 for EDDF before today, just check you have the ini file for EDDF that has todays date and time 09:32am.

Sorry about this, but this GSX2 is so new, that we are forced to learn by try and error.


Have a great sunday!

Koen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #221 on: November 18, 2018, 03:10:27 pm »
i have looked at two gsx level 2 configs for EHAM. while yours is available for the all open scenario and the other is just for the east scenario for runways. i have to add that Amsterdam only has steel jetways. therefore i find the other option more realistic at EHAM.

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #222 on: November 18, 2018, 03:12:54 pm »
i have looked at two gsx level 2 configs for EHAM. while yours is available for the all open scenario and the other is just for the east scenario for runways. i have to add that Amsterdam only has steel jetways. therefore i find the other option more realistic at EHAM.
Well as you have probably seen EHAM is a version that has not even the FULL (needles to say V3) category on it, so is a very undone version still... i will get there one day. But if you find a better version go for it!

ashun

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 72
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #223 on: November 19, 2018, 02:45:38 pm »
Any chance you are considering to do flytampa Dubai?

Thanks for your hard work and efforts.

Best wishes
Ash

cartayna

  • Beta tester
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 743
Re: A BUNCH OF CONFIGURATIONS AIRPORTS IN GSX2 & FULL VIDEO TUTORIAL
« Reply #224 on: November 19, 2018, 02:55:40 pm »
Any chance you are considering to do flytampa Dubai?

Thanks for your hard work and efforts.

Best wishes
Ash
not at this moment... will do in the future if FlyTampa wishes me to do it.. I dont buy sceneries of places I dont fly to for this project. Another different issue is if the develper wants me to do it.. this friday i will publish anohter develper that has joined the Cartayna Files project donating all his sceneries if I do his configurations... There is a long way to go, and takes huge amount of time to do each, large airports suchs as OMDB with perfect pushbacks included never less than 10h.
cheers