KJFK + GSX = installation sequence issue **SOLVED**

[G.Bosak]

Hi Umberto,

yesterday i took some time to service my FSDT installations, because i noticed something annoying which had happened severall times before, but was to lazy to mention earlier.  

Missing Airport at JFKv2!

Deinstalled GSX + KJFKv2 with Addonmanager and couatl, because i've seen newer versions here.

Downloaded the latest installer of kjfkv2 [v2.1] + install

startet FSX/jfk worked again.

then DL the latest GSX [1.8.1]

run fsx, missing airport like shown in the attached picture again

DL the standalone Addonmanager, didn't help to get the airport back.

deinstalled just KJFK again (also AM and couatl) und did another reinstall without reinstall of GSX on top

KJFKv2 workes as it should again.

So i assume there must be some issue between this 2 installers, which prevents KJFK from working proper, when GSX ist installed last.

There is no Antivirus software issue possible, because i don't run such crap.
AM is active in the FSX menu, also shows proper activation
Couatl is working fine too.

I have all of yours and flightbeams airports installed. OS = W764bit, FSX/Sp2,

Hope you have an idea to sort it out. I don't want to check my destination airport on every flight if it's still working.  

regards

[virtuali]

Couatl is working fine too.

This safely discounts ANY antivirus, installation, software not running and any other similar issue.

What you are describing, is basically impossible. There's no installation "sequence" to respect, especially if you use the latest installers which can't install anything other than the latest versions of all the files.

The only possible explanation I have, is that you have installed JFK using the 2.1 update, instead of the Full installer (which IS 2.1 too), but that's strange too, because I'm fairly sure the 2.1 update won't let you install the update if you don't install the Full installer first. Just to be sure, download the Full installer only, and don't use the 2.1 update, which should be used only by users having 2.0 installer and wanting to update it with a smaller download.

Order of installation with GSX shouldn't make any difference, but I'd say it's probably best to install GSX last.

[G.Bosak]

Couatl is working fine too.

This safely discounts ANY antivirus, installation, software not running and any other similar issue.

What you are describing, is basically impossible. There's no installation "sequence" to respect, especially if you use the latest installers which can't install anything other than the latest versions of all the files.

The only possible explanation I have, is that you have installed JFK using the 2.1 update, instead of the Full installer (which IS 2.1 too), but that's strange too, because I'm fairly sure the 2.1 update won't let you install the update if you don't install the Full installer first. Just to be sure, download the Full installer only, and don't use the 2.1 update, which should be used only by users having 2.0 installer and wanting to update it with a smaller download.

Order of installation with GSX shouldn't make any difference, but I'd say it's probably best to install GSX last.

Thank your for your fast response, Umberto.

I'm aware that there should be no installation order. But the problem is easily reproducable for me, at least at JFK.

Eventually  i did install the 2.1 update, i don't remember.

But in the meantime there were 2 full installations of KJFK v2.1 + deinstallations to proof what i had described before.

If there are any relicts which aren't covered by the 2.1 deinstallation routine and are able to cause this issue simultaneously, pls tell me. I'll try to delete them manually.

But i'm very sure i had this symptoms with KLAX and CYVR, too, if GSX is being installed last. If i have some time tomorrow, i'll check this out, too.

I had stable FSDT airports over years, no installation or activation issues but since GSX (and/or their live updates?) your airports aren't that stable i am used too.
I do nothing different in administration regarding my FSX. But I really don't like to see missing airports in final after 10h flight.

PS: I'd also appreciate if you start publishing all the latest airport installer versions in a sticky thread or on the download page.
I normally have to download every installer again and again on spec. Just to see, if i have the latest version of every airport.

[G.Bosak]

checked it once more also with KJFK, KLAX and CYVR

first deinstalled GSX v1.8.1.0 + addonmanager + couatl

followed by a new installation of GSX v1.8.0.1

results:

KJFK (v2.1.0.0) as shown before doesn't work ; Addonmanager + couatl are active.

started KLAX, everything is fine.

started CYVR no problems, too.

Did a reboot to proof if it would work as it should, but no chance.

If i want to have a working KJFK i must not install GSX last.

[virtuali]

first deinstalled GSX v1.8.1.0 + addonmanager + couatl

followed by a new installation of GSX v1.8.0.1

results:

KJFK (v2.1.0.0) as shown before doesn't work ; Addonmanager + couatl are active.

You haven't said if you reinstalled KJFK using the FULL 2.1 installer. Redo this again:

- Uninstall everything

- Install KJFK 2.1 using the Full installer FIRST. Don't install the upgrade. Don't use an old installer you might have, DOWNLOAD it from the site even if your installer already shows 2.1.

- Install GSX.

[G.Bosak]

You haven't said if you reinstalled KJFK using the FULL 2.1 installer. Redo this again:

- Uninstall everything

- Install KJFK 2.1 using the Full installer FIRST. Don't install the upgrade. Don't use an old installer you might have, DOWNLOAD it from the site even if your installer already shows 2.1.

- Install GSX.

You misinterpreted my posting. I just wanted to say that i used the upgrade installer once when it's been released.

Everything i mentioned here is based on the v2.1 full installer, so i did exactly what you asked me but without success.

If you like to, we could start a teamviewer remote session, to proof what i'm saying. 

[virtuali]

Everything i mentioned here is based on the v2.1 full installer, so i did exactly what you asked me but without success.

Before replying to you, I did EXACTLY what I've said to do here and, of course, no problems whatsoever.

If you like to, we could start a teamviewer remote session, to proof what i'm saying. 

It's not that I don't *believe* you, just that I'm 100% sure there are no problems in the installers and their sequence. So yes, feel free to contact me with PM to start a Teamviewer session.

[G.Bosak]

you've got PM 

[G.Bosak]

Umberto, thank you for your time, but we didn't caught the error.

Just deinstalled GSX and reinstalled it. Same as before.

KJFK doesn't work if i don't install it after GSX.

(send you new session data via PM if you like to connect once more.)

[virtuali]

Umberto, thank you for your time, but we didn't caught the error.

Yes, we have. The problem was AES. You had an AFCAD file for AES that you left in the JFK V1 folder. Our installer doesn't obviously remove anything that doesn't belong to it, and AES AFCAD are not supposed to be in the scenery folder, but in the AES own folder.

Just deinstalled GSX and reinstalled it. Same as before.

Not the same. You are probably have ANOTHER problem.

KJFK doesn't work if i don't install it after GSX.

Yes, it does. We'll see what OTHER problem your system have now.

[G.Bosak]

Everything's fine now.

FSDT = always great support!

thx Umberto