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Products Support => Los Angeles support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: 72westy on December 28, 2012, 12:15:28 am

Title: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on December 28, 2012, 12:15:28 am
I was wondering if this can be resolved. The A380's seemed to be parked at the wrong gates. AI traffic is at 20% as is GA traffic. No road traffic. Running FSX w/ Acceleration, (UTX complete series), (GEX comp. series)

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
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Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 01:18:05 am
First, be sure you use the KLAX-supplied AFCAD, meaning you should remove any AFCAD that might have been eventually installed by the Traffic program.

Other then that, the parkings in any scenery (this is not really related to KLAX) are assigned by FSX checking the airplane size in the MDL file of the AI airplane, it might be worth checking if is set correctly in those A380, THEN we might check it against the radius in the scenery AFCAD.

But before doing anything, be sure you use the AFCAD that comes with KLAX.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on December 28, 2012, 01:32:50 am
First, be sure you use the KLAX-supplied AFCAD, meaning you should remove any AFCAD that might have been eventually installed by the Traffic program.

Other then that, the parkings in any scenery (this is not really related to KLAX) are assigned by FSX checking the airplane size in the MDL file of the AI airplane, it might be worth checking if is set correctly in those A380, THEN we might check it against the radius in the scenery AFCAD.

But before doing anything, be sure you use the AFCAD that comes with KLAX.


How do I check the AFCAD file/s?

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 01:44:11 am
How do I check the AFCAD file/s?

A way could be using GSX parking customization editor, it will indicate what AFCAD is in use.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on December 28, 2012, 01:56:19 am
How do I check the AFCAD file/s?

A way could be using GSX parking customization editor, it will indicate what AFCAD is in use.

Sorry, I do not have GSX.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 10:27:05 am
Sorry, I do not have GSX.

GSX is entirely free to use at FSDT airports so, there's are no reasons not to install it.

GSX includes all the features that we previously included in the scenery as ParkMe, but it does much more and, in fact, you should consider it as an additional piece of the scenery that must be installed, with the advantage that, instead of enlarging the size of *every* scenery installer to include the GSX features, we have a separate download that will be downloaded only once, keeping the scenery installers smaller.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 01, 2013, 07:00:41 pm
The AFCAD in use according to GSX is as follows: FsDreamTeam/KLAX_V2/scenery/KLAX_AP.BGL

What next?
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on January 02, 2013, 02:09:10 pm
The AFCAD in use according to GSX is as follows: FsDreamTeam/KLAX_V2/scenery/KLAX_AP.BGL

That's the correct one. Now, you should do the other step which I've already indicated in my previous message:

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it might be worth checking if is set correctly in those A380, THEN we might check it against the radius in the scenery AFCAD.

So, try an example of a parking at KLAX that accepts an A380 when it shouldn't, and we can check the radius in the AFCAD.

Note that, sometimes the radius in the AFCAD has to be specified on a certain size, otherwise the jetway will not move so, first we need to check this specific case, and then we can decide if it would be possible to make it smaller, assuming the problem IS the AFCAD radius, and not the A380 .MDL file which is too smaller instead.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: Dave_YVR on January 02, 2013, 07:14:48 pm
 AI parking in FSX is based on the entry wing_span in each models aircraft.cfg. He can simply check his aircraft.cfg from the A380 to see if it says something very similar to wing_span=261.0 .
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 02, 2013, 09:29:52 pm
AI parking in FSX is based on the entry wing_span in each models aircraft.cfg. He can simply check his aircraft.cfg from the A380 to see if it says something very similar to wing_span=261.0 .


Any tutorials/steps on how to do this? I've read over the manual but it's vague to me.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: Dave_YVR on January 02, 2013, 09:46:09 pm
 I opened the KLAX_AP.bgl file with AFX and it needs some bigger parking. The TBIT has 36m parking and therefore A380's will not use it. The A380 needs 40m.

 Additionally, there is still many gates coded COA, and also USA. To stay up to date, these should be changed to their correct codes.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on January 02, 2013, 10:10:36 pm
I opened the KLAX_AP.bgl file with AFX and it needs some bigger parking. The TBIT has 36m parking and therefore A380's will not use it. The A380 needs 40m.

But the OP reported the OPPOSITE problem, that A380 were parking when they shouldn't, in parking that seemed to be too small for them.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 03, 2013, 02:35:51 am
I opened the KLAX_AP.bgl file with AFX and it needs some bigger parking. The TBIT has 36m parking and therefore A380's will not use it. The A380 needs 40m.

But the OP reported the OPPOSITE problem, that A380 were parking when they shouldn't, in parking that seemed to be too small for them.

The screen shot above on the left shows the A380 parked in between 2 others. This was just after starting my flight in the helo (loading of FSX). It did not pull in there it was already there from the get go.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: Dave_YVR on January 03, 2013, 04:29:48 am
 Opps, sorry my bad.. Wow, looking again the 380 in your screen it's parked in a 24m spot.. it should be using no smaller than 40m.

 So that being said you should have a look at your aircraft.cfg for your AI A380 (your job to find and edit). Find the entry "wing_span="   and it should read 261.10 or something very similar, if not edit it to say 261.10
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 03, 2013, 09:49:12 am
Opps, sorry my bad.. Wow, looking again the 380 in your screen it's parked in a 24m spot.. it should be using no smaller than 40m.

 So that being said you should have a look at your aircraft.cfg for your AI A380 (your job to find and edit). Find the entry "wing_span="   and it should read 261.10 or something very similar, if not edit it to say 261.10



Looking in my Traffic 360 AI folder within FSX for the A380 (4) of them I have the following for the wing span within the aircraft.cfg folders for each: wing_span=94.75

The (4) folders are within the folder FSX/SimOjects/JFTraffic360/

JFAI_A380_Cargo_g1
JFAI_A380_Cargo_g2
JFAI_A380_g1
JFAI_A380_g2

As for the actual wingspan I've seen 261.8, 261.10, 261.6 etc...
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: virtuali on January 03, 2013, 12:25:16 pm
Looking in my Traffic 360 AI folder within FSX for the A380 (4) of them I have the following for the wing span within the aircraft.cfg folders for each: wing_span=94.75

That seems to be the problem and as expected, it was an error in the Traffic 360 program, not KLAX. A Wingspan of 94.75 ft ( 28.8 mt ) will allow that AI to be parked in spots as small as 15 mt of radius, which is clearly wrong.

Remember that FSX always gives preference to the smallest parking spot that can take any given plane which means, if a 30 mt spot and 20 mt spot are both available, an airplane with a wingspan of 28.8 mt will go into the 20 mt spot.
Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 03, 2013, 01:18:43 pm
I notified Just Flight as well and they are going to include the fix in an upcoming service pack for Traffic 360. The following is their reply:


Thanks for the link. I’ll send these details over to the developers for inclusion in the upcoming service pack.

 

Martyn Northall

Just Flight & Just Trains

 

http://www.justflight.com

http://www.justtrains.net

Title: Re: Traffic 360 & KLAX
Post by: 72westy on January 08, 2013, 01:29:39 pm
Same issue at Haneda airport Japan using the following add ons for FSX: http://fsx.o.oo7.jp/index.htm

Screenshots of Haneda/Traffic360 parking issues: