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FS9 support => Chicago O'Hare for FS9 => Topic started by: IndyFlyer on May 15, 2008, 02:09:37 am

Title: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 15, 2008, 02:09:37 am
Looks great and ver well done...bad thing is..my god it killed my frames. I can run tampa and pmdg..ect..great for some reason this is killing me..I went from 17-22 to 2-8

Humm


Matthew
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: thepilot on May 15, 2008, 03:01:22 am
Specs?
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 15, 2008, 03:03:17 am
WinXP

Pen 4 2.4 ghz
2gb RAM
FS04
Nvidia 7600
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: thepilot on May 15, 2008, 03:10:11 am
Mh,

it indeed needs more system resources than certain other sceneries.
As far as I remember my old PC (similar to your one) couldn't run cloud9 sceneries (same kind) comfortably either.
Maybe try to turn down settings if possible.
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: Razgriz on May 15, 2008, 03:19:53 am
Well, Tampa is rather small.  O'Hare is gigantic!
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: thepilot on May 15, 2008, 03:23:35 am
Well, generally.
I can run Seattle, SFO, PDX etc. at 35fps while I aim for a constant 25 fps in O'Hare.
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 15, 2008, 03:26:42 am
I can run flytampa sfo, kmdw pretty much all of those i have kpdx (fszone) EGLL..great frames 17-25 easy...for some reason I get poop for frames with this.

Matt
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: thepilot on May 15, 2008, 03:31:24 am
It seems logical to me...
E6850 2x 3,0GHz
8800gts 320mb
2GB DDR2-800

pretty good I think, still my framerate drops from time to time.
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 15, 2008, 03:36:40 am
dont get..huh...o well..looks like i gotta uninstall and Im out 34$...wonder what I can do
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: Razgriz on May 15, 2008, 03:39:34 am
dont get..huh...o well..looks like i gotta uninstall and Im out 34$...wonder what I can do

You can give it to me.  :)
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: _Dre_ on May 15, 2008, 05:45:48 am
WinXP

Pen 4 2.4 ghz
2gb RAM
FS04
Nvidia 7600

There's something not right in your setup for FS9. My specs are:

Win XP
Pen 4 3.4 ghz
1GB ram
FS9
Nvidia 6600
AI:90%

My frames are very good for ORD and the only time I get any slow down is when I'm exiting a runway and all the ai and terminals comes into view very quickly and all at once. The slowdown is only momentarily though, until all the ai textures are finished loading, then it's back to smooth performance. As for my sliders, most are maxed out with a couple of exceptions. Draw distance: 80 miles, Scenery objects cast shadows: off, Cloud density: half way, Autogen: Dense.

You have more memory and a better graphics card so at the very least you should be getting the same performance. Download the latest drivers for your Graphics Card and make sure your XP has all the latest updates. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: virtuali on May 15, 2008, 12:05:16 pm
Pen 4 2.4 ghz
2gb RAM
FS04
Nvidia 7600

You forgot an important spec, how much video ram you have. It's possible to verify if your problem is the video ram if, by lowering one notch the Global Texture Size slider, you notice an improvement.

O'Hare, being the one of the busiest airport in the world, is able to attract an huge amount of AI traffic, way larger than *anything* else, not to mention there's KMDW nearby so, using a real world AI traffic schedule, can result in more than 300 models in that area.

In that case, you are NOT evaluating the scenery performances: you are just seeing how much the AI could bring your system down to its knees.

Please, check at different AI settings, and see the results.
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: Axel H on May 15, 2008, 09:34:55 pm
Hi,

this drop of frame rates I have observed especially at large airports. Same with the new LEMD. I think we can compare these two airports in size. They are maybe designed a bit differently, I mean the techniques (sorry, don't know anything about it, but you realize different styles of designing, ground, buildings, texturing).

At Frankfurt e.g. I have max. 25 fps, locked at 25. Here and at LEMD I get the same, maybe slightly less, but after a time, when the traffic is fully loaded the fps drop down to 10 or 13. OK, maybe it is a strange observation, but this is in my large sceneries the case, at Frankfurt it stays at 25, this is a large airport but very compact. Maybe someone can explain it better here.

On another forum someone has written about something with the cache. Any idea why a cache cannot correctly emptied after a while?

Thanks, regards,

Axel
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 16, 2008, 12:13:56 am
My vid card is 512 and I dont even have my slides all the way up?...hummm

Matt
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: virtuali on May 16, 2008, 01:09:21 am
With your system specs, under FS9, your fps is not normal, at all. I have much better fps in FSX, see the Screenshots here (this is all FSX,btw, FS9 would have been even faster of course)

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=585.0

As I've said, have you checked with different AI settings ? Have you checked with any kind of AI-viewing utility how many airplanes are in the area ?

If you don't make such tests before, you are ending up thinking to express a judgement on the scenery, when in fact you are just evaluating the fps-friendliness (or unfriendliness) of your AI models, under extreme stress. Which traffic package you use ?

AI settings are not directly comparable from scenery to scenery. The only thing that matters is the actual number of models, that is a function of the size of the airport, number of parking stands, and AI schedule (and of course, fps friendliness of the models)

100% AI at O'Hare with a busy schedule might generate double amount the traffic of the same 100% in another place. Hence, fps might be very different with a settings that only *appears* to be the same, and without this being a scenery's fault.

Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: IndyFlyer on May 16, 2008, 05:17:20 am
sir call me dumb..but AI..I have none...everything is set to zero...at least i think so...No traffic at all. no stac. aircrft at all...No please dont think im down grading the sen..casuse its GREAT! very well done..I just wish I could get better frames.

Matt
Title: Re: Nice but....
Post by: virtuali on May 16, 2008, 01:22:01 pm
Sorry, but with 0 AI, something must be very wrong with your system.

Nobody complained about bad fps, if you read other's opinion and a couple of review we got, the first thing everyone usually notice about this scenery, it's the low impact on fps, considering its size/quality.

Also, I've read in a previous message you wrote, that you found this problem after you spent money on it.

Haven't you realized the scenery comes as a Trial ? As indicated on the FAQ Page:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/faq.html

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The Demo doesn't have an expiration date. It's possible to use it for an unlimited number of times, just not more than a few minutes each time. This way, it's possible to evaluate the product by making tweaks on the system, upgrades, at everyone's pace.

There was plenty of time to evaluate your purchase: if the fps were too low for your system, why you purchased it in the first place ?