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Products Support => GSX Support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: DiBarkis on February 03, 2012, 06:58:14 am
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I am so frustrated here. I didn't want to post immediately because I wanted to do a proper research on the forum and see if anyone already has my problem and if a solution has been provided.
This is my problem:
I first bought the KDFW and KLAS sceneries and installed them, and they've been working without any flaws, then I bought the KLAX and that too has performed flawlessly. Everything was fine until I bought GSX and OhareX yesterday. I installed them both, OhareX first, then GSX. I started FSX with one of the aerosoft airports (ENGM), and tried the ctrl + F12, nothng, so I disabled AES for that airport, thinking it might be the reason, nothing! I tried KLAX, and to my surprise, all textures (including runways and buildings) were gone! Same with KDFW! I checked KLAS and the buildings were gone, but the runways were intact, same with KORD, although at KORD, some buildings were still present, but not all. After reading everything I could find on the forums relating to this issue, I uninstalled everything, and started installing them one by one. (I already turned off my AV which is Microsoft Security Essentials, and I already excluded my entire FSX folder from scanning, but I went ahead and excluded the bglmanx and the couatl files, just in case)
I noticed that when I install KORD and KLAS, they work fine without any issues, all buildings and runways present. Even when I install the KLAX and KDFW, the previous two still remain intact, but for the KLAX and KDFW, all buildings are present, but no runway textures on both. As soon as I install either GSX or the Stand alone Addon manager, All buildings from all 4 airports disappear, but I still have the runways/taxiways at KLAS and KORD, and at KORD, I think I have some of the buildings but not all. I still see the addon manager and Couatl powered products on the menu, but when I click the 3 options on couatl (key mapping, restart couatl and ... (I forget), nothing happens. On the addon manager, it shows all five (including GSX) as installed and active. Also, I get the message to run couatl and addon manager, and I run and 'trust' them.
I read where one of the posters here was instructed to create the couatl.ini file, and I did that. Here is what I have in my log:
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connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Addon ParkMe has been disabled by .ini file
Loading addon GSX
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I wonder why it doesn't say "Addon GSX loaded"
Any help is appreciated
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You can safely discount any possible problem with antivirus, etc. In that case, you would see nothing, no menu, let alone the ability to generate a log in the first place.
It would have been best if you posted the complete log file, without cutting anything, for example the first lines are surely missing, which lists date, time, the Couatl version number, etc.
Just as a shot, have you tried updating your AUDIO drivers ? GSX requires your audio drivers being OpenAL compliant, after loading all addons, it should have displayed informations about your audio card but, since you haven't posted the whole file, I'm not sure if there's something more or not.
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I have the exact same problem.
After installing GSXC andd the new add on manager, I know longer have any buildings at KJFK, KLAS or Flight Beams KSFO. I am missing the United satellite terminal at KORD. I also have the demo for KLAX and KDFW and they have know buildings.
I have "Coatle powered products" menu with the 3 options but nothing happens when I click on any of the options. Like the original poster here, I have followed every trouble shooting step in this post and every other post regarding lost buildings in this forum to no avail. I even tried to do a system restore to a point prior to installing GSX and that did not work.
Here is my complete log file. Nothing has been left out
couatl v2.0 (build 2290)
log started on Fri Feb 03 07:27:49 2012
connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK loaded
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Addon ParkMe has been disabled by .ini file
Loading addon GSX
Again, like the previous poster, it does not show GSX as loaded.
Prior to loading GSX, all my FS Dream and Flight Beam products were working perfectly.
Hopefully we can get this working. I miss my airports and I was so looking to forward to playing around with GSX.
I'm running Windows 7 with no anti-virus installed.
Kyle
kbutterfield@hotmail.com
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Sorry about the the cutting off of the beginning of the log. It was unintentional. Here is the complete log:
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couatl v2.0 (build 2290)
log started on Fri Feb 03 09:43:53 2012
connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Addon ParkMe has been disabled by .ini file
Loading addon GSX
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That's the entire log. I'll try the audio drivers.
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I can only repeat what I've already wrote before:
You can safely discount any possible problem with antivirus, etc. In that case, you would see nothing, no menu, let alone the ability to generate a log in the first place.
Have you tried updating your AUDIO drivers ? GSX requires your audio drivers being OpenAL compliant, after loading all addons, it should have displayed informations about your audio card. It's possible that a missing/wrong driver has created a problem to it.
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I can only repeat what I've already wrote before:
You can safely discount any possible problem with antivirus, etc. In that case, you would see nothing, no menu, let alone the ability to generate a log in the first place.
Have you tried updating your AUDIO drivers ? GSX requires your audio drivers being OpenAL compliant, after loading all addons, it should have displayed informations about your audio card. It's possible that a missing/wrong driver has created a problem to it.
I just checked my audio drivers and they're up to date and working well. I have an onboard sound card and my Motherboard is Asus P6T Deluxe V2, and I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64. I believe it's OpenAL compliant. Moreover, I don't think the log is displaying everything. It doesn't say if GSX is loaded or failed to load, or skipped. Could someone with a working GSX please post their log, so we can compare?
Thanks in advance
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Moreover, I don't think the log is displaying everything. It doesn't say if GSX is loaded or failed to load, or skipped. Could someone with a working GSX please post their log, so we can compare?
I said the audio could be a problem for the very reason I obviously KNOW what a correct starting log should look like, after the "Loading addon GSX", the next line should be all the informations about your audio card and, immediately after the audio card informations, there should be a line saying "GSX addon loaded".
So, you are missing exactly that, as if your audio driver crashed or caused any other problem that made GSX waiting for it without going further.
Fact that your sound card "seems" to work well, doesn't mean everything it's ok, if your audio drivers don't support OpenAL, or their support for it is bugged, GSX will not work.
Try this file from Creative Labs, sometimes it's able to fix OpenAL problems:
http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip
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Moreover, I don't think the log is displaying everything. It doesn't say if GSX is loaded or failed to load, or skipped. Could someone with a working GSX please post their log, so we can compare?
I said the audio could be a problem for the very reason I obviously KNOW what a correct starting log should look like, after the "Loading addon GSX", the next line should be all the informations about your audio card and, immediately after the audio card informations, there should be a line saying "GSX addon loaded".
So, you are missing exactly that, as if your audio driver crashed or caused any other problem that made GSX waiting for it without going further.
Fact that your sound card "seems" to work well, doesn't mean everything it's ok, if your audio drivers don't support OpenAL, or their support for it is bugged, GSX will not work.
Try this file from Creative Labs, sometimes it's able to fix OpenAL problems:
http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip
I downloaded the file, reinstalled the standalone addon manager, and in each case I always did a reboot (even though I don't think that's necessary), and I still have the same problem:
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couatl v2.0 (build 2290)
log started on Fri Feb 03 12:25:55 2012
connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Addon ParkMe has been disabled by .ini file
Loading addon GSX
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Same results here. I've been working on this for 2 days now.I'm using a Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium,latest driver version 2.17.8. I've been searching all over the internet for possible solutions to the OpenAL issue to know avail. I tried the above OpenAl fix file, but it didn't work. I'm ready to give up on GSX. I just want my airport buildings back. I've tried everything from a uninstalling GSX and addon manager, reinstalling addon manager, system restore to a previous time. Nothing works to restore the buildings.
What else can I do to get the buildings back for KJKF, KORD, KLAS and KSFO?
Do I need to uninstall and reinstall all of them?
Kyle
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You just need to wait while we try to be sure it's *really* the sound card, for that we might need additional diagnostic. I'll get back to you.
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Update on trouble shooting the above problem.
I uninstalled GSX - still no buildings.
I re-installed ORD 2.0 and now I have buildings, but it loaded back the old add on manager menu with key mappings as the only option in the menu. Key mapping now works.
Re-installed GSX exactly has posted. Buildings disappeared but I now have the new add on manager with the 3 options(none work) but no buildings. Same log file results as above.
Installed the stand alone add on manager. No buildings with the same log file results above.
I wanted my buildings so I re-installed ORD 2.0 with GSX still installed. Buildings are back, old add on manager menu with key mappings only but GSX does not work. See log file below.
I guess the new add on manager is not compatible with mine and others systems. I'm disapointed. I was looking forward to GSX.
Hopefully we can find a solution so I can enjoy GSX as others are.
couatl v2.0 (build 2290)
log started on Fri Feb 03 13:29:28 2012
connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK loaded
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Addon ParkMe has been disabled by .ini file
Loading addon GSX
Error: while loading addon GSX, traceback follows
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 53, in loadAddons
File "couatl\GSX\__init__.py", line 5, in <module>
File "couatl\GSX\airportCustomization.py", line 6, in <module>
File "couatl\GSX\parkingServices\__init__.py", line 1, in <module>
File "couatl\GSX\parkingServices\followMe.py", line 10, in <module>
File "couatl\common\engineNoiseEmitter.py", line 2, in <module>
File "couatl\common\audioManager.py", line 65, in <module>
TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable
Loading addon ENBR
Addon ENBR not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KSFO
Addon KSFO loaded
Starting system monitors
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\dhc8-q400_x
SharedMemInterface connected
Kyle B
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Your error log show what's to be expected if you install a scenery after GSX. Until we update all the scenery installers, GSX or the Addon Manager must be installed last.
Reinstall GSX, and after it has been installed, try this:
Download the following file:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works. If it doesn't, try with this one:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/bglmanx.dll
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Tried both files. No luck.
Kyle
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Tried both files. No luck.
Please, clarify this:
After reinstalling GSX AND trying replacing the files with the one I've linked, you have the Addon Manager menu, the Couatl menu, only one of them (which one ?) or none at all ?
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I have both menu's. The add on manager which let's me see the products installed. It works. I also have the other menu with the 3 choices, check for update, key mappings and restart, but none of those options work when you click on them. The most important thing is that the buildings at the airports are gone.
Kyle
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I have both menu's. The add on manager which let's me see the products installed. It works. I also have the other menu with the 3 choices, check for update, key mappings and restart, but none of those options work when you click on them. The most important thing is that the buildings at the airports are gone.
Ok, this is entirely strange, and never seen before. If you have both menus, it means everything is running, but nobody ever reported the Couatl menu being there, but not doing anything.
Check this file:
%APPDATA%\Virtuali\Couatl.err
If you have it, post its content.
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I did mention in my original post that I had the Coautl Powered products menu but clicking on the 3 choices did not work.
I found the file in question. Here are the contents. I watched the file as it was loading up a FSDT airport and it did not change. It shows a file date of 12/29/2011.]
couatl v2.0 (build 2255)
panic log started on Fri Dec 23 17:54:27 2011
Bglmanx disconnected prematurely
couatl v2.0 (build 2255)
panic log started on Thu Dec 29 07:17:25 2011
Bglmanx disconnected prematurely
couatl v2.0 (build 2255)
panic log started on Thu Dec 29 07:52:27 2011
Bglmanx disconnected prematurely
Kyle
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That file doesn't relate to this, since it show only problems happened in December, well before GSX was released.
Contact me via PM, I'll let you test a special diagnostic version that will hopefully produce more information.
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PM sent.
I'll be back on tomorrow to hopefully figure this out.
Thanks again
Kyle
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Hi Umberto,
Still trying to get this to work. I believe it has something to do with the new addon manager freezing when trying to load GSX. According to the couatl.log file, it stops when trying to load GSX. With the old one, it either says GSX not installed or if GSX is installed, gives the loading error messages in the log file I posted above. I installed the KLAX v2.0 demo and it works. It must be using the old addon manager file.
I just noticed that during the installation of GSX when it comes to the Microsoft visuals files, it goes fast, like it is not installing them. Do I need to delete the existing ones and let it install fresh versions?
Still waiting for your special test version.
I feel comfortable about purchasing KLAX since I can get it to work, but still hoping I can purhase GSX.
Thanks
Kyle.
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Hi Umberto,
Still trying to get this to work. I believe it has something to do with the new addon manager freezing when trying to load GSX. According to the couatl.log file, it stops when trying to load GSX. With the old one, it either says GSX not installed or if GSX is installed, gives the loading error messages in the log file I posted above. I installed the KLAX v2.0 demo and it works. It must be using the old addon manager file.
I just noticed that during the installation of GSX when it comes to the Microsoft visuals files, it goes fast, like it is not installing them. Do I need to delete the existing ones and let it install fresh versions?
Still waiting for your special test version.
I feel comfortable about purchasing KLAX since I can get it to work, but still hoping I can purhase GSX.
Thanks
Kyle.
The exact same is happening to me. I even noticed that my windows firewall was on, and thought to myself "I finally nailed it!" First I added 'couatl.exe' to the list of allowed files, no joy, then I disabled windows firewall entirely, still no luck. But when I remove both GSX and the New addon manager, and then remove and reinstall KLAX, KLAX becomes 100% ok, plus all others (I bought KLAX, KDFW, KORD and KLAS).
One other thing I noticed was that whenever I have GSX and/or the addon manager installed, Both the 'addon manager' and the 'couatl powered products' appear on the menu the first time I run fsx (but the submenu for the couatl... don't work, you click them and nothing happens), but when I run fsx again, the 'couatl powered products' is absent. Finally I found out that this was because even after closing FSX, couatl is still running under 'processes' in the task manager, it never gets closed by itself unless you you reboot or log off and back on You have to close it manually with 'end process'. If you do this, then the 'couatl powered...' menu reappears in FSX.
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I've done this but I still can't get the options in the menu to work or have any of my buildings show up with the new add on manager.
Have you got yours to work?
Kyle
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I've done this but I still can't get the options in the menu to work or have any of my buildings show up with the new add on manager.
Have you got yours to work?
Kyle
Not yet. The other airports only work if I uninstall the Addon Manager and GSX, and also uninstall KLAX and then when I reinstall KLAX, it restores the other airports I have, but I don't have GSX. Problem is, I already bought it because all other addons (airports) have always worked for me. I wish someone comes up with a solution because I was really looking forward this. I'm not giving up, though
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You can try the Simconnect diagnostic, to see if it starts or not:
Open Notepad, and copy the following text:
[SimConnect]
level=normal
console=1
RedirectStdOutToConsole=1
OutputDebugString=1
; file=c:\simconnect%03u.log
; file_next_index=0
; file_max_index=9
Save the file as SIMCONNECT.INI in this folder:
Documents And Settings\YOUR LOGIN NAME\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator X Files
At the next FSX launch, you should see a text window with diagnostic messages: the FIRST 10 lines or so are important: you should try to note what they are saying. If the text scrolls too fast, use the Pause key on the keyboard.
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You can try the Simconnect diagnostic, to see if it starts or not:
Open Notepad, and copy the following text:
[SimConnect]
level=normal
console=1
RedirectStdOutToConsole=1
OutputDebugString=1
; file=c:\simconnect%03u.log
; file_next_index=0
; file_max_index=9
Save the file as SIMCONNECT.INI in this folder:
Documents And Settings\YOUR LOGIN NAME\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator X Files
At the next FSX launch, you should see a text window with diagnostic messages: the FIRST 10 lines or so are important: you should try to note what they are saying. If the text scrolls too fast, use the Pause key on the keyboard.
This is what I get when I run the diagnostic, and then FSX gets a fatal error. But if I remove the SIMCONNECT.INI from the 'flight simulator X files' folder, FSX opens normally
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I'm gonna remove GSX, AddonManagerX and KLAX, then I'll reinstall KLAX to restore the Buildings, and finally I"ll reinstall AddonManagerX without GSX, just to check if the problem is with them both, or just GSX. I'll get back to you on that. I'll also try to run SIMCONNECT.INI immediately after installing KLAX, just to see if there is any difference before reinstalling the Addon Manager.
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This is what I get when I run the diagnostic, and then FSX gets a fatal error. But if I remove the SIMCONNECT.INI from the 'flight simulator X files' folder, FSX opens normally
This is interesting, and explains a lot of things. Your log doesn't show any loading problems with Couatl (it's the line that ends with 2.0.0.2090 in your screenshot), if there were an error, we should have seen something related to it.
Instead, if I understand correctly, the VERY act of trying to diagnose Simconnect, will make it FSX crashing ? The Simconnect diagnostic is a basic feature of it, if FSX crashes simply be enabling its diagnostic, it seems that Simconnect itself has been corrupted somehow.
In any case, I don't see the Addon Manager (bglmanx.dll) line, it's all of the diagnostic, of there's something more ?
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This is what I get when I run the diagnostic, and then FSX gets a fatal error. But if I remove the SIMCONNECT.INI from the 'flight simulator X files' folder, FSX opens normally
This is interesting, and explains a lot of things. Your log doesn't show any loading problems with Couatl (it's the line that ends with 2.0.0.2090 in your screenshot), if there were an error, we should have seen something related to it.
Instead, if I understand correctly, the VERY act of trying to diagnose Simconnect, will make it FSX crashing ? The Simconnect diagnostic is a basic feature of it, if FSX crashes simply be enabling its diagnostic, it seems that Simconnect itself has been corrupted somehow.
In any case, I don't see the Addon Manager (bglmanx.dll) line, it's all of the diagnostic, of there's something more ?
Now, this is what I get when I remove GSX and AddonManagerX (I reinstalled KLAX). Also, FSX crashes too:
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Now, this is what I get when I remove GSX and AddonManagerX (I reinstalled KLAX). Also, FSX crashes too:
But you haven't really removed them, KLAX has reinstalled them and, since it gets the files online, they are the same that GSX installs. It's possible something happened while downloading.
Try this, reinstall GSX, and after it has been installed, download the following file:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works. If it doesn't, try with this one instead:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll
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Here is a copy of mine with the lastest addon manager and GSX installed. It does show that bglmanx.dll has loaded.
I've also tried the 2 additional files with no luck.
Side question, I know longer use UT traffic. How can I delete that from trying to load?
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I'll reply to both of you with PM now, so you can test the diagnostic version of the Addon Manager, that generates logs too long to be posted here.
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I think we have narrowd it down to the audio device.
Steps I have taken.
Copied the file to the common folder.
Added
[common]
audioDevice = software
to the Couatladdons.ini file.
Ran FSX. Still no luck but as you notice from the log that it now says under GSX - Initializing audio...
couatl v2.0 (build 2290)
log started on Sun Feb 05 06:45:09 2012
connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 16 AddOn(s)
Loading addon ZurichX
Addon ZurichX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX loaded
Loading addon JFK
Addon JFK loaded
Loading addon XPOI
Addon XPOI not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Loading addon ParkMe
Addon ParkMe loaded
Loading addon GSX
Initializing audio...
Tried changing to audioDevice = none
Same result
Learned that I could disable GSX by changing disable=0 to disable=1 (a lot faster than re-installing an old scenery to get my buildings back). It worked the first time but will now work any other time.
Ran FSX
Everything loaded fine (except GSX obiviously). Buildings back and all functions in the Couatl powered products menu now work.
I uninstalled everything pertaining to the SoundBlaster.. drivers, software..etc. Ran Driver Cleaner to remove any old, unused drivers. Re-installed current SoundBlster drivers – 2.17.08
Still No GSX
I’m currently using Win 7 64bit Creative Labs SoundBlaster x-fi titanium with drivers 2.17.08 (latest on their web site dated 7/2010)
Disabled the SoundBlaster card and re-enable my onboard audio (Realtek HD audio on an ASUS P8P67 deluxe motherboard )and downloaded updated audio drivers from ASUS and Realtek. Still the same result.
Loading addon GSX
Initializing audio...
Hope that helps in trying to find a solution.
Thanks for the great support and lets get this solved.
Kyle
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Did you installed the OpenAL fix from Creative I posted earlier ?
http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip
Also, try changing audioDevice to
audioDevice = hardware
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I did before I removed and re-installed all sound drivers. Let me do it again now and I'll get back with the results.
Kyle
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It did not work.
I un-installed GSX - removed it completely from my system.There is no reference to it in the Couatladdons.ini file. Re-installed the new addon manager and it still freezes on Loading addon GSX in the log file.
I don't understand why I can't get it to work using 2 different sound cards with updated drivers.
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FYI
When I re-install GSX, the first time I run it with it disabled in the Couatladdons.ini file, FSX starts with all the buildings and the Coautl powered products menu working. The log file shows that GSX was disabled in the .ini file.
If I exit FSX then restart after closing the Coautl process (doesn't close on its own), the Buildings and menu functions are gone. And the log file show that it froze in GSX initialze audio.
Kyle
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It really seems to be an audio problem. OpenAL stays on top of DirectSound though, try installing the most current DirectX runtime:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=35
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It says I already have the latest updated drivers and closes the install.
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Try this:
go into C:\Windows\System32 and remove the openal32.dll file manually (it will ask additional permission to do it), and then run again the OpenAL installer you downloaded from Creative.
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Didn't work.
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Until we get this issue figured out. I've uninstalled GSX and the new add on manager and re-installed KORD to get the old add on manager so I can at least have my buildings and markings back.
Please continue to trouble shoot with me. I've been reading so many posts about how nice GSX is and I am so frustrated that I can't get mine to work.
Thanks for all your help and don't forget about me.
Kyle
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Until we get this issue figured out. I've uninstalled GSX and the new add on manager and re-installed KORD to get the old add on manager so I can at least have my buildings and markings back.
There's no need to, the problem is not the Addon Manager, is the fact that GSX calls the sound card, you can simply disable GSX only by setting disable = 1 in its section of the %APPDATA%\Virtuali\Couatladdons.ini file, so you can use the current version of the Addon Manager.
Not that it makes any difference, if you install any scenery, it will download the exact same Addon Manager and Couatl files than GSX installer.
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I did set disable = 1 and it loaded the first time fine, but anytime after that it did not load. It stopped on Loading GSX. I uninstalled GSX and the add on manager, re-installed GSX, set to disable = 1 and again it loaded the first time fine by by-passing GSX. Any other time I started FSX and went to a FSDT airport, it stopped on Loading GSX even though it was disabled in the ini file.
The only way to fix it temporarily was to uninstall GSX and the new addon manager. Re-install KORD so with the old add on manager so there is no reference what so ever to GSX. All airports load fine after that.
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Maybe your problem is simply that the Couatl exe doesn't close with FSX, which is why it runs only once
Try to do all the sound card test again, but check that Couatl.exe process is closed when you close FSX and if it's not, terminate it manually with the Task manager.
It's possible another addon is preventing it to close it automatically, it happened to another users, the culprit was the GoFlight drivers, but with so many modules out there, it's possible something else might cause the same problem.
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Fiiiiinnnnnaallllly!!!!! I got it to work!!! ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D I didn't even have to use the .pye file. I couldn't do all that 'cos I was in church all day, and when I came back I flashed my bios, and decided to redo my overclock from scratch, so I couldn't reply any of the messages I got from you guys. I've been on the overclock all day, and finally came to the final stress test before hitting the bed, But I remembered that when I was searching for my latest bios (asus) update, I noticed a sound driver update. I couldn't resist the urge, so I downloaded it, and tried to install it, but I got the message that I already have a newer version. Usually that would be it for me, but I had a hunch, so I decided to uninstall the one I had already and install the one I just downloaded. I rebooted my pc, and downloaded the file Umberto sent us, but I also decided to just reinstall GSX and check first before modifying any files... And voila! I almost slapped the follow me truck driver for keeping me waiting for all this time. ;D I'm so happy! I think I'm gonna have to go to the ER tomorrow because my lips are already split all the way to my left and right ears from grinning! Sorry I'm scribbling away like an idiot, but I just feel like a little boy with a new toy! Now I'm off to fault finding (forgive me... couldn't resist).
Thanks Umberto for all your efforts. There are very few developers like you. Thanks for your patience too.
Sorry, but I have to get some sleep now. I'll reply whatever questions later in the evening. Kyle, why don't you just uninstall your sound driver (integrated motherboard audio) and reboot, then reinstall it, and reboot, then reinstall GSX? That's exactly what I did.
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Ok, I tried the above. I removed my sound blaster card and all it's drivers. Removed the on board sound card drivers (Realtek). Went into safe mode and removed any last trace of any sound card drivers. Went to the ASUS website and downloaded the latest sound card drivers for the P8P67 delux motherboard. Re-enable my sound card in the bios and re-installed the new drivers. After re-boot, I re-installed GSX and loaded up FSX. To my astonishment, I had buildings and GSX was working except for sound. I thought I was home free. I looked at the log file (which I forgot to save) and it showed that there were problems trying to enumerate the audio device. I then exited out of FSX to try and launch it again, but it would stop at Initializing audio again. I then rebooted my computer and loaded up FSX and it launched GSX with the attached log file. Again, no sound but at least GSX was working. I did that twice.. had to reboot in order for it to come up. I also noticed that it added this line to the Couatladdons.ini file "[common] audioenumerate = failed. After the 3 re-boot, it stopped on Loading GSX again and would not go any further.
I tried to redo all the steps above so I can see if I can re-produce the original log file, but it will not work. It's back to the way it was before. Stopping on the audio initialization.
I did notice that there was a newer BIOS available for my mother board. Would upgrading to that help?
I had a small taste of GSX and I want more.
Would there be another audio source (AES..etc.) taking control of the audio device before GSX does?
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. I was almost there.
Thanks
Kyle
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I did notice that there was a newer BIOS available for my mother board. Would upgrading to that help?
You might try.
Would there be another audio source (AES..etc.) taking control of the audio device before GSX does?
It shouldn't, users are using them together normally. Do you have other audio applications that runs in the background, like audio capture programs, voip or anything unusual that access the audio card ?
BTW, my audio card it's a Realtek too (it's embedded on the mainboard, and I use a Mac to boot, not the most standard config...), and it works without even installing any driver, just with the ones included with Windows 7.
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No other audio programs that I am aware of. It's a dedicated FSX machine. I try to keep clean of any unnecessary programs.
i will try to update the BIOS and get back with the results.
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Kyle, I would suggest you update your bios to the latest. I'm not saying that will help, but who knows? I updated my bios before installing the new sound driver, so I don't know if it would have (not) worked if I had installed the sound without the bios update. I think it's worth a try.
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SUCCESS!!!!!! The only problem is that my wife if banning me from the FSX computer for a few days, maybe longer.
This has been a project. I'm not sure if upgrading my BIOS did the trick because I also did multiple other steps.
Un-installed GSX
Un-installed all sound drivers (again).
Disable the sound card in BIOS.
Rebooted in safe mode and ran a driver cleaner to make sure all audio drivers were removed.
Went into the registry and deleted any reference to Creative Labs.
Re-enable audio in BIOS. (I would like to put my SoundBlaster X-Fi back in but I'm scared to).
When windows booted, I just let it find the Realtek drivers and install them. I did not install the ones I downloaded from ASUS.
I went into my FSX config file and deleted all old trusted items especially ones dealing with sound.
Re-installed GSX then re-booted computer.
Ran Smart Close to close any unnecessary programs and process.
I previously un-checked any add on scenery except a few in FSX just in case any one of those were conflicting with GSX. I will re-activate them one by one just in case.
Started FSX and prayed!!! (Most important part I think)
To my surprise.. SUCCESS!! I thought I was dreaming so I closed FSX and re-ran it. Success again. I think I peed my pants.
Currently in the process of buying it. To bad I can't play with it for a few days. Or can I.
Thanks for all your help Umberto and everyone else. Truly great product and customer service. KLAX is next on my list.
Kyle
Attached is the best looking Couatl.log file I have ever seen.
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I'm very happy to hear that, so it really looks like the ASUS drivers didn't supported OpenAL, or they supported it badly, while the Windows driver were Ok.
I don't believe you'll have issues with the X-Fi, I have a PC with an X-Fi (not the latest model, it's a PCI version), and it worked beautifully with the Creative 5.1 system, and GSX supported the surround sound perfectly so, for example, if you are in the cockpit, you'll hear the baggage loader sound coming from behind you!
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I wanted to add something I experienced.
I noticed that when I reset GSX at the gate at KDFW it resets and removes all of the buildings except for the gates. I was not sure if this issue has been reported or not.
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I noticed that when I reset GSX at the gate at KDFW it resets and removes all of the buildings except for the gates.
That's absolutely normal. Of course, after a couple of seconds everything is back on, I hope...
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I waited but none of the buildings came back. I also can't get the autodock feature to work.
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I waited but none of the buildings came back
Then it means some other addon module you have installed might prevent a proper restart, we heard a couple of reports of other modules (one was a joystick driver) that prevented couatl.exe properly closing if installed.
You might try rearranging the loading order of modules in the %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX\EXE.XML file, sometimes it helps when there are conflicting modules.
I also can't get the autodock feature to work.
What's the autodock ?
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I believe FSDT called it PARK ME but now with GSX I think its called AGS. Either way I don't have any guiding for parking in KDFW. I don't have a marshaller or a light to help me park. In fact it stated my parking wasn't very good when I wasn't even parked at the gate yet! This was Gate E-12
Any help would be appreciated
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I believe there's some confusion here:
ParkMe was a Couatl *feature* we used in scenery, which enabled several kind of docking aides, some electronic like the Safegate, APIS, some hybrid like the AGNIS-PAPA (which is half optical and half electronic ), and some entirely optical, like the AGN, used for example at KDFW Terminal B
ParkMe also had the parking evaluation, but no marshaller, and it was available only at selected parking on FSDT aiports.
GSX improved on that, by adding the marshaller on every parking on every airport, plus it supports exactly the same kind of docking systems as ParkMe, nothing has changed with GSX, KDFW Terminal B STILL has exactly the same AGN system it had in ParkMe, which is a static optical system that gives only lateral guidance by means of parallax effect.
This is how it's supposed to work, and it hasn't changed a bit with GSX. If you want a more advance docking system at KDFW, go to a gate with a SafeGate system.
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I tried a test flight yesterday and upon arrival with the follow me car the gate had no marshaller to guide me in. This is using the latest version of FSDT KDFW with no modifications to AFCAD. Is it possible that the E concourse does not have marshallers? This was Gate E 12.
I departed from the gate and the wing walker showed up. When I park all the vehicles are there including stairs, pushback, baggage but no marshaller for guidance.
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(2nd test flight)... I decided to ignore FSX ATC this time and selected gate D6 which was open. I decided to ask for a follow me car which arrived but while taxiing he decided to go through the grass and got stuck.
Upon arrival there was no marshaller which I am not sure if this is normal or not since it had the guidance docking system.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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I tried a test flight yesterday and upon arrival with the follow me car the gate had no marshaller to guide me in. This is using the latest version of FSDT KDFW with no modifications to AFCAD. Is it possible that the E concourse does not have marshallers? This was Gate E 12.
That's just confirms what I've said, and it's absolutely normal. As I've said, some terminals at KDFW has only the simple optical AGN system, which doesn't give any distance indication, only lateral by means of parallax optical effect.
GSX makes apparently clear which kind of assistance you have at any parking BEFORE you select it. In the parking selection menu, if the parking has a docking system of *any* kind, it will be labeled with its name so, Terminal E at KDFW will lists most of its gates having an AGN system. And, after you select a parking, it will also say which parking you activated and which docking method it has.
Only if there's NO docking of any kind (regardless how advanced or simple is), a Marshaller will be displayed. Parking spots with a Marshaller are those that don't have anything added to the parking name.
This means there aren't many marhsallers at KDFW, since most of the gates have a docking system. Terminals A, C and D have the Safedock, which is the electronic type and it's far easier to use than any marshaller, but Terminals B and E have the AGN system, which is far simpler, but still is considered to be a docking system, so no Marshaller there.
This is of course explained in the GSX manual, at Page 6
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Thank you for clarifying this for me. It would be nice if at some point GSX marshallers are added to concourse E since it does not have any docking assistance.
grazie mille!