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Title: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Kappa on April 21, 2011, 01:27:21 am
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Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: anappy on April 21, 2011, 01:31:52 am
You can see Sepulveda Blvd at the top right corner of the pic
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on April 21, 2011, 01:56:51 am
very cool shot, reminds me of KORD during the winter lol. Keep up the good work guys.

Regards
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: sjt375 on April 21, 2011, 02:41:41 am
Looks amazing! Can't wait to get this on my PC :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: anappy on April 21, 2011, 02:46:49 am
Does this still make Work in Progress / 05 relevant?
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: AA777-200ER on April 21, 2011, 03:25:46 am
Not sure what we’re looking at....still in a rough modeling form? I thought you were finishing up on this project as shown in posting 5.  ;)

Wasn’t this release going to be completed by the end of April?



Is it me or all fs developers slowing down on their releases...Darryl
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: aircanadajet on April 21, 2011, 03:55:28 am
soooo much detail! wow, guys! Keep the good work up!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: willultra99 on April 21, 2011, 05:19:54 am
Thanks for the update.  hopefully we will get a few more shots soon.

William C
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: VX4ever on April 21, 2011, 06:20:09 am
I see the future Tom Bradley! Heck Yeah ! ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: anappy on April 21, 2011, 06:43:03 am
It almost looks the same as Work in Progress 4 just a zoomed at view to see all the terminals
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on April 21, 2011, 07:19:41 am
That looks fantastic,amazing,realistic....etc. :o The work is progressing. :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Boeing787 on April 21, 2011, 08:05:33 am
Thanks for the shot Kappa!  You guys are taking your time and I LIKE that....this means we will be getting a product with detail up the wazoooo (like other FSDT airports). Although I'm feeling this airport is going to be a bench-marker for detail and will set a precedent. It's definitely going to be different than any other FSDT airport before it! If it takes till June until everything gets modeled right...then it takes till June (or later)  ;) My only request is that we can keep getting more preview shots to see how the project is moving along  :)

Joel
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: rvandiver1 on April 21, 2011, 03:22:28 pm
Do we have a time-line for a release date yet??  Getting anxious here ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: masondom on April 21, 2011, 04:32:21 pm

Hi every body  :)

KLAX was planned for spring. I thing we are not really far from it !
And this raw picture, isn't just a way to tell us : we have just finished 80-90 % of the work.

Dom Mason
Airdailyx
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on April 21, 2011, 05:07:30 pm

Hi every body  :)

KLAX was planned for spring. I thing we are not really far from it !
And this raw picture, isn't just a way to tell us : we have just finished 80-90 % of the work.

Dom Mason
Airdailyx


Hell it is spring right now!!!   :P
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: masondom on April 21, 2011, 05:14:25 pm
 :D  Hey Junior, as a matter of fact, you'r so right ;)  i don't know why, always thought that spring starts in early may, lol.

Dom Mason
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: bkircher on April 21, 2011, 08:32:17 pm
Is that first terminal building in the lower left, one of the new terminal buildings that they are currently building??
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: AA777-200ER on April 21, 2011, 10:12:13 pm
It's been 7 months...I thought they were doing 3 sceneries/airports a year?  >:(


Not sure what we’re looking at....still in a rough modeling form? I thought you were finishing up on this project as shown in posting 5.  ;)

Wasn’t this release going to be completed by the end of April?



Is it me or all fs developers slowing down on their releases...Darryl


Work-In-Progress 5 showed the souternh side of the airport; now they are working on the northern side.
And no, there was never a release date for the scenery. Let the team do their thing. Patience is golden.


Darryl
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Silverbird on April 21, 2011, 10:36:11 pm
I admit its been long but there are working on gsx and Hawaii plus probably things we don't know about, that they cant talk about yet. so there extremely busy and the construction at klax going on now doesn't help ether.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: altstiff on April 22, 2011, 02:55:02 am
I like and look forward....

Just did a bit of a spotting session in T1 at KLAX a few weeks back...

https://picasaweb.google.com/altstiff/KLAX?feat=directlink

Not the best images shooting through a window, but was cool seeing some stuff I do not see at home  ;D was thinking about FSDT while there.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: ESzczesniak on April 23, 2011, 03:03:51 am
It's been 7 months...I thought they were doing 3 sceneries/airports a year?  >:(

With two teams working on different projects, 3/year comes out to an average development of about 8 months.  So it doesn't really seem like we're terribly off pace here.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on April 23, 2011, 09:57:00 pm
I like and look forward....

Just did a bit of a spotting session in T1 at KLAX a few weeks back...

https://picasaweb.google.com/altstiff/KLAX?feat=directlink

Not the best images shooting through a window, but was cool seeing some stuff I do not see at home  ;D was thinking about FSDT while there.

Ah you're getting me in the mood for KLAX. Stop teasing me! lol. Nice shots, thanks Al

Regards
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: newmanix on April 28, 2011, 06:26:52 pm
http://www.airliners.net/photo//1909592/L/
Umberto, Kappa this should be helpful.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: newmanix on April 30, 2011, 04:35:32 am
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01967644&size=large

(Origionally posted by Didier Chabanne) should be in this topic. The most updated arial version to date! Thanks Dider! Note the paved alley now, and the temp bus shuttle building on the north wing of TBIT.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: EDDK on May 01, 2011, 03:07:07 pm
also not bad

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1036983
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: newmanix on May 01, 2011, 04:40:54 pm
also not bad

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1036983

 :o NICE FIND!

Close up of remote gates and construction zone at the west end of the airport. Also note the taxi bridges.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Virgin-America/Airbus-A320-214/1887447/L/&sid=471fbd5bb4ad152e6ca6db99742fd9de
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-757-33N/1847447/L/&sid=471fbd5bb4ad152e6ca6db99742fd9de

Umberto, do you indend to create the 135 FT hill of Surfrige at the west end of the airport? Its the part where you see all the roads leading to nowhere that seperate the airport from the ocean. The default LAX and C9 LAX got this area wrong. It is impossible to see the Ocean from the airport due to the hill but in FS the ocean is very visable from the airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palisades_del_Rey,_California

Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Boeing787 on May 02, 2011, 09:31:57 am
That's something that I didnt think about!!! Yes, Umberto that would be a nice addition. It might put on a few more days on the project but it would be worth it :)

Joel
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: AA777-200ER on May 12, 2011, 06:51:18 pm
Any news on LAX's development...it been so quiet lately!  ???

Darryl
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: virtuali on May 12, 2011, 07:20:44 pm
It's progressing, the reason why we haven't posted much screenshots, has been explained here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=4288.msg38822#msg38822
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Dimon on May 12, 2011, 07:40:04 pm
I hope FS2004 development won't be affected.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: virtuali on May 12, 2011, 11:07:30 pm
I hope FS2004 development won't be affected.

We still don't have any idea how it will look like in FS9, we'll know once the FSX it's finished.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 14, 2011, 02:54:22 pm
It's progressing, the reason why we haven't posted much screenshots, has been explained here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=4288.msg38822#msg38822

Hey no worries....It is not like you are telling us you plan to release it this year and then 4 years later still no scenery like PMDG   ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 14, 2011, 03:24:58 pm
Didn't know PMDG made scenery.   :D  Jokes aside, what was delayed by 4 years?
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 14, 2011, 04:53:07 pm
Didn't know PMDG made scenery.   :D  Jokes aside, what was delayed by 4 years?
  ;D I was talking about the 737 NGX.  Most of us been waiting forever and a day   :D


Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Anders Bermann on May 14, 2011, 05:01:13 pm
LOL :D

Was PMDG 737NGX really delayed for 4 years?? (haven't been up to date on this...)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 14, 2011, 05:05:26 pm
 ;D PMDG is VERY late... I wonder who will come first, Ifly737X or PMDG?
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 14, 2011, 05:40:08 pm
LOL :D

Was PMDG 737NGX really delayed for 4 years?? (haven't been up to date on this...)

yep yep
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 14, 2011, 06:50:55 pm
haha it's been a long time coming with the NGX. We're getting there though. The PMDG forums are generally a LOT more hostile than these though... That's why I like these forums more (even though at times they can both get slow).

It is very fun though to see people from different forums in different places. Like I see cmpbllsjc there (and here) all the time; there is a true sense of community.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 14, 2011, 07:17:33 pm
haha it's been a long time coming with the NGX. We're getting there though. The PMDG forums are generally a LOT more hostile than these though... That's why I like these forums more (even though at times they can both get slow).

It is very fun though to see people from different forums in different places. Like I see cmpbllsjc there (and here) all the time; there is a true sense of community.

Yes Sir, we are ONE small "Sim" family  ;) I Love U all man.... (To much red wine for me maybe..) ;D 
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 14, 2011, 09:43:36 pm
Most of us been waiting forever and a day   :D

Having seen their quality first hand with the J41, I'm sure it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 14, 2011, 11:08:54 pm
I'm sure it will be. Judging by the videos/screenshots/preview information posts and the depth of all of them, I imagine I will feel like I am flying a real NG.

It's the fsdreamteam of airliners  ;) 
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on May 15, 2011, 12:21:01 am
PMDG'S NGX has been a looooooooooooooong time in the making :o. Robert Randazzo's recent post had the team pass "The cone of silence", In the same post two video previews one day and one night.
I liked both videos very well and by the look of things the home stretch is near for the NGX. :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 15, 2011, 07:06:56 am
PMDG'S NGX has been a looooooooooooooong time in the making :o. Robert Randazzo's recent post had the team pass "The cone of silence", In the same post two video previews one day and one night.
I liked both videos very well and by the look of things the home stretch is near for the NGX. :)

The home stretch was back in '09 :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 15, 2011, 01:47:45 pm
....Like I see cmpbllsjc there (and here) all the time; there is a true sense of community.

Yeah I visit the Avsim forum a lot but dont remember seeing you there unless you have a different handle over there.

Basically the only forums that I really frequent are Avsim and the FSDT forum, although I do pop into the FT and Aerosoft forum from time to time, although for some reason the Aerosoft forum is no longer working correctly on my computer and keeps freezing up when I try to access a topic.

Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 15, 2011, 04:08:44 pm
I just began posting frequently over at avsim about 2 weeks ago (although I have read those forums for years), so it would make sense that you don't really see me (but I have the same name). I used to spend most of my time here and at the CS forums when my 757 wasn't working properly, checking avsim every few days but then I bought the Level D 767 and QW 757; I found myself (and still do today) checking here and avsim like 10 times a day, waiting for KLAX and the NGX.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 15, 2011, 04:33:02 pm
.... I found myself (and still do today) checking here and avsim like 10 times a day, waiting for KLAX and the NGX.

Yeah me too, although I work at home and am on the computer all day long, so I probably check this site and the Avsim and Avsim PMDG page like 30 times a day to see if there are updates to LAX or the NGX.

Once LAX is out, then I will probably be here checking all the time to see what Umberto's next move is as far as the next airport or updates to existing airports. I guess you could say checking forums is almost like a hobby itself, haha.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Silverbird on May 15, 2011, 05:07:42 pm
.... I found myself (and still do today) checking here and avsim like 10 times a day, waiting for KLAX and the NGX.

Yeah me too, although I work at home and am on the computer all day long, so I probably check this site and the Avsim and Avsim PMDG page like 30 times a day to see if there are updates to LAX or the NGX.

Once LAX is out, then I will probably be here checking all the time to see what Umberto's next move is as far as the next airport or updates to existing airports. I guess you could say checking forums is almost like a hobby itself, haha.

lol I agree its is like its own hobby checking forums ;D it has become part of my life lol  :D I'm really keeping a close eye on what Umberto will do after klax since we also have ms flight being in development. good thing we have gsx which will greatly enhance scenery's and of course klax once it is released
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 16, 2011, 12:47:36 am
.... I found myself (and still do today) checking here and avsim like 10 times a day, waiting for KLAX and the NGX.

Yeah me too, although I work at home and am on the computer all day long, so I probably check this site and the Avsim and Avsim PMDG page like 30 times a day to see if there are updates to LAX or the NGX.

Once LAX is out, then I will probably be here checking all the time to see what Umberto's next move is as far as the next airport or updates to existing airports. I guess you could say checking forums is almost like a hobby itself, haha.

Agreed. I am very curious as to what they will begin work on (besides continuing on GSX). I still am not sure if they will begin to update their best selling airports (LSZH, KJFK, etc) or if they will just get them ready for Flight. Regardless, we probably won't know because of the NDA so we can only speculate unless Umberto tells us.  ;D

I also agree that checking forums is pretty much a hobby in itself as well... as ridiculous as that sounds to anyone who doesn't (like my family... lol). I spend just as much time checking forums as I do playing fsx, during the week at least -- probably more. It really brings a smile to my face to think how many people there are that are as passionate (and even much more) about flying, real and virtual, as I am.

Regards
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 16, 2011, 04:04:00 pm
..we can only speculate unless Umberto tells us.  ;D

And considering how secretive they were on revealing GSX, that ain't gonna happen.   ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: aircanadajet on May 20, 2011, 01:29:21 pm
hmmm I got tired of waiting so I bought ALL of the airports you guys sell. I thought LAX was going to be out in the Spring? No? Maybe the Summer?
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 20, 2011, 05:09:14 pm
;D PMDG is VERY late... I wonder who will come first, Ifly737X or PMDG?

Well to answer you question Ify 737X has beat PMDG out the gate as far as release.  Bout to download now.  :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 20, 2011, 07:25:02 pm
Well to answer you question Ify 737X has beat PMDG out the gate as far as release.  Bout to download now.  :)

Yep, iFly is the first one.

I was thinking about trying it, but after seeing all the screen shots and videos of it, then comparing it the those of the PMDG version, I am just going to wait for the NGX. If it at least had the collimated HGS, the "Lotus" style landing lights like the PMDG does, and better VC lighting besides just on or off,  I would probably give it a shot. Plus I hear the click spots in the VC are a pain to use.

Granted it they do have the 30 day refund, but I have a feeling I would just end up returning it anyway. If it was the only good 737 available for FSX I would surely have purchased already.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 20, 2011, 08:07:03 pm
Yep, iFly is the first one.

I was thinking about trying it, but after seeing all the screen shots and videos of it, then comparing it the those of the PMDG version, I am just going to wait for the NGX. If it at least had the collimated HGS, the "Lotus" style landing lights like the PMDG does, and better VC lighting besides just on or off,  I would probably give it a shot. Plus I hear the click spots in the VC are a pain to use.

Granted it they do have the 30 day refund, but I have a feeling I would just end up returning it anyway. If it was the only good 737 available for FSX I would surely have purchased already.

+1. I completely feel the same way - the iFly looks good but I have been following PMDG with this for years and the NGX, in my mind, is well worth the wait.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 20, 2011, 08:19:10 pm
Ifly is HIGHLY recommended! 
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 20, 2011, 11:00:45 pm
Ifly is HIGHLY recommended! 

Your on FS9 if I remember correctly, which in that case, the iFly is the best version.

I dont think anyone who has followed the countless posts on the PMDG Avsim forum or on their Facebook page and compared screen shots and videos of both products, as well as features and accuracy, can dispute the PMDG version will be a much richer product.

I'm not saying that the iFly is bad or bashing them, but there is no doubt that if your interest in a true "study sim" for lack of a better expression, as well as one with better cosmetic features and modeling accuracy then the PMDG is the way to go.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 20, 2011, 11:05:26 pm
But the sales price for the pmdg version will probably be about $100  ::)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on May 21, 2011, 12:11:24 am
But the sales price for the pmdg version will probably be about $100  ::)
Price has'nt been decided yet, At least the last time I checked. ;) Besides PMDG NGX is not that far off from being released..... :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 21, 2011, 05:26:13 am
But the sales price for the pmdg version will probably be about $100  ::)
Price has'nt been decided yet, At least the last time I checked. ;) Besides PMDG NGX is not that far off from being released..... :)

That's what they said in 2009   ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 21, 2011, 05:27:56 am
Well to answer you question Ify 737X has beat PMDG out the gate as far as release.  Bout to download now.  :)

Yep, iFly is the first one.

I was thinking about trying it, but after seeing all the screen shots and videos of it, then comparing it the those of the PMDG version, I am just going to wait for the NGX. If it at least had the collimated HGS, the "Lotus" style landing lights like the PMDG does, and better VC lighting besides just on or off,  I would probably give it a shot. Plus I hear the click spots in the VC are a pain to use.

Granted it they do have the 30 day refund, but I have a feeling I would just end up returning it anyway. If it was the only good 737 available for FSX I would surely have purchased already.

While you are waiting I am enjoying my flight  :)  Still will get NGX but for now ifly is the way to.......well...fly!!   :D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Anders Bermann on May 21, 2011, 12:00:47 pm
Hehe! Yearh! I wanna see it, before I actually believe it... The PMDG NGX, has been listed as "Coming Soon" for half a year (if not longer) - I would actually be suprised, if the release is "just around the corner"... (<-- which in my world, means within 4-6 weeks)...

But we'll see, I guess... In the meantime, I must join the crowd of 'supporters' for the iFly! :D - it's really an amazing plane...
And as someone on the iFly forum said - how can you compare iFly, with an aircraft, which hasn't been released yet...? ;)


Anyway - just my 2c! :)
Have a great weekend, folks!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 21, 2011, 03:26:41 pm
..how can you compare iFly, with an aircraft, which hasn't been released yet...?

Very easily, if you don't own aircraft from Precision.  Once they release, a lot of iFlies are going to end up in the recycle bin.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: simon747 on May 21, 2011, 03:35:34 pm
I realize it takes 24 hours to post some screens with the new system....but hey I think its time to show some more besides a blank white set of buildings!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 21, 2011, 07:33:53 pm
I find it funny that we are talking about the NGX in the fsdt forums - in a KLAX preview thread. It's fun though.

ANYWAY, about KLAX...  :D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: simon747 on May 21, 2011, 10:38:20 pm
hats off to both...plan to use both together quite a bit!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 21, 2011, 10:46:20 pm
I find it funny that we are talking about the NGX in the fsdt forums - in a KLAX preview thread. It's fun though.

ANYWAY, about KLAX...  :D

Considering that will be the main Hub for a lot of others PMDG NGX.  This is the right subject.  I will be doing my maiden flight out of if not KDEN :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 22, 2011, 03:08:54 am
Considering that will be the main Hub for a lot of others PMDG NGX.  This is the right subject.  I will be doing my maiden flight out of if not KDEN :)

That is true. Although I primarily fly in and out of the north east (JFK mostly), I can't wait to fly across the country to KLAX, crisscrossing to KORD and KDFW, or maybe do some Southwest runs, or flying to KDEN myself in the UAL/COA merger livery.

Good times ahead!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 22, 2011, 03:53:28 am
Considering that will be the main Hub for a lot of others PMDG NGX.  This is the right subject.  I will be doing my maiden flight out of if not KDEN :)

That is true. Although I primarily fly in and out of the north east (JFK mostly), I can't wait to fly across the country to KLAX, crisscrossing to KORD and KDFW, or maybe do some Southwest runs, or flying to KDEN myself in the UAL/COA merger livery.

Good times ahead!

Sounds great!!!  However you know there are going to be "HEAVY" flights going in and out of KLAS to KLAX for a short hall test flights of the PMDG systems.  As well as a quick view of the KLAX scenery.....for those who can not wait that long in flight to see the new LA basin
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 22, 2011, 07:08:39 am
...short hall..

??? Something to do with the infamous pogo stick, or more like a short haul, haha?

KLAX will be nice for short hauls to KLAS.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: simon747 on May 22, 2011, 10:39:57 am
I am the one who is going to short and long hauls all in a 737 out of klax:)) :D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: ESzczesniak on May 22, 2011, 10:57:01 am
I am the one who is going to short and long hauls all in a 737 out of klax:)) :D

I don't know about that...Once KLAX is availabe, I suspect >90% of my flights will be between KLAX and KSFO or KLAS in either the iFly 737NG or the PMDG NGX.  As sad as it may be, I enjoy button pushing and the thrill/rush of the takeoff roll.  My flights averate <250 NM and KLAX will fill out the west coast nicely for short haul flights.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: simon747 on May 22, 2011, 03:02:47 pm
+1 I agree; those are my pref routes too.  I like the photo scenery as well in that area:) Plus landing in SFO is always a thrill and taking off west out of klax is good too...
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: windshear on May 22, 2011, 04:45:34 pm
Nice ground detail...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Turkish-Airlines/Boeing-777-3F2-ER/1923575/L/

Also this one! http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lufthansa/Boeing-747-430M/1924255/L/

Hope all is well in production!

Boaz.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Unfaced on May 23, 2011, 02:03:56 pm
Since my guess is that the NGX will come before KLAX, I start with Routes from LOWW to EDDM, LFPG or LCLK or something like that. Once KLAX is released, I will fly from KLAX to PHNL or KLAS, definitely  ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on May 23, 2011, 02:55:16 pm
Since my guess is that the NGX will come before KLAX, I start with Routes from LOWW to EDDM, LFPG or LCLK or something like that. Once KLAX is released, I will fly from KLAX to PHNL or KLAS, definitely  ;D
Have you visted the PMDG forum ??? I was in the forum yesterday. In RSR's recent post topic, he said the NGX will be handed over to the wider beta teams to check for "bugs" etc.....
So it may be while longer. :-\
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Unfaced on May 23, 2011, 03:09:24 pm
Yes I visit AVSIM every day - but my feeling here is that they tested very hard until now (at least that was what I was reading) so my guess will be that the wide Beta Team does not have much to test.

But I could be wrong of course  ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 23, 2011, 07:37:22 pm
Since my guess is that the NGX will come before KLAX, I start with Routes from LOWW to EDDM, LFPG or LCLK or something like that. Once KLAX is released, I will fly from KLAX to PHNL or KLAS, definitely  ;D

I don't see how you figure that.  LAX and FSDreamteam next scenery after that will be out before PMDG NGX!!!    :P
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 23, 2011, 10:16:35 pm
Since my guess is that the NGX will come before KLAX, I start with Routes from LOWW to EDDM, LFPG or LCLK or something like that. Once KLAX is released, I will fly from KLAX to PHNL or KLAS, definitely  ;D

I don't see how you figure that.  LAX and FSDreamteam is going to be out before PMDG NGX!!!    :P

What are the odds?   ;D
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 24, 2011, 05:27:28 pm
50/50   ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Anders Bermann on May 24, 2011, 07:41:38 pm
Really? Is the NGX that close to being released... (not that I know of the exact progress of KLAX), but in my mind, I would be amazed, if the NGX was released this side july e.g - but I haven't really been following the progress...

Would certainly buy it, when it arrives... (that goes both for KLAX AND the NGX from PMDG) ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on May 24, 2011, 10:34:33 pm
Really? Is the NGX that close to being released... (not that I know of the exact progress of KLAX), but in my mind, I would be amazed, if the NGX was released this side july e.g - but I haven't really been following the progress...

Would certainly buy it, when it arrives... (that goes both for KLAX AND the NGX from PMDG) ;)
I have been following the PMDG NGX progress and from the screenshots e.g. VC,Exterior. :) In the most recent post thread by Robert S. Randazzo (not an exact quote) but he said when they reach certain miles markers in the progress of the NGX and release to the wider beta teams to make sure there are no "bugs" or performance issues; PMDG will start talking about a release date(internal). :-*

P.S.
No matter what, Wherever the progress is for KLAX it is more likely that it will be released before PMDG NGX. 8)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 24, 2011, 10:53:40 pm
I think that PMDG is losing some money over this delay issue. I know plenty of people at http://www.swavirtual.com/?content=home (http://www.swavirtual.com/?content=home) that already have bought ifly instead.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: masondom on May 24, 2011, 11:11:50 pm
Hi

Now that iFLY's Boeing FSX is released, its of their own (PMDG) interest to wait a little bit.
They are producing the most formidable aircraft ever, anyway.

Will they loose money? Oh no.
Will they loose some credibility ? Maybe but you can buy some new credibility with money, can't you ?

(dammit i am wild tonight !)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 25, 2011, 12:39:15 am
Will they loose some credibility ?

They will only lose credibility to the handfull of folks who constantly complain that the plane wasn't released in a period of time that suited them and thus settled for another version. To all others who have a little patience and dont mind waiting for what will likely be the most advanced addon a/c ever produced for a dest top flight sim, their credibilty will remain unchanged. I think most serious simmers who have been in this hobby for some time know that PMDG is the best at what they do, which is to produce airliners that operate as close to the real world a/c given the confines of what FSX/FS9 is able to handle.

I think this abbreviated post by the PMDG boss best sums up their position on why they do what they do in relation to releasing the NGX.

Quote
At PMDG we aren't interested in quickly cranking out a product that loosely approximates an airplane based on a bunch of stolen flight manual pdf's that we jacked off an internet site...  because in doing so you invariably wind up giving customers an airplane that does some things well, looks nice, but doesn't fly like the airplane, doesn't act like the airplane in takeoff, climb, cruise descent and landing, and is partially functional in the PFD/ND and FMS....

I've seen some uninformed posts where folks have proclaimed that we are packing too much into this product and that it will be out of reach of some simmers...  PMDG got to where we are by knowing who our current customers are- knowing who are future customers are- and knowing how airplanes actually behave...   So we aren't doing anything NEW here- we are simply doing it better.

The whole reason we continue to hold the airplane and thoroughly test the entire product is that we FIRMLY believe we owe you a complete product that is as problem-free as we can possibly make it.  After all- the day a customer purchases this product- they are giving us their hard earned money in exchange for the opportunity to see what it is like to fly the 737NG- and that is exactly what they should get.  No hassles, no frustrations... no waiting for 200 patches while we try to fill in gaps between the pieces that work...

That just isn't how we operate.


As far as what will be first - KLAX or NGX?

I think the NGX will be first. We still have probably 3 to 4, or maybe more,  "Backdoor" previews to go based on the amount of previews we typically get for a new airport.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: ESzczesniak on May 25, 2011, 01:23:18 am
They will only lose credibility to the handfull of folks who constantly complain that the plane wasn't released in a period of time that suited them and thus settled for another version...

I don't think they will lose any credibility in any circles.  Regardless of how things have played out, PMDG does make the best aircraft around.  For me, they have lost respect though for their practices...broken promises and deadlines for new updates and veiled bashing of other producers efforts (this is what a REAL NGX looks like...).

They do make the best aicraft around though and for that I will definitely be buying the NGX.  For now though, I have another spectacular NG I get to flyin in FSX finally.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: pride545 on May 25, 2011, 08:23:13 am
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: simon747 on May 25, 2011, 11:00:05 am
cmm'on KLAX, some more screens............ :P
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on May 25, 2011, 06:18:38 pm
PMDG Needs to have a stellar model of the 737NG.  Because anything else would prove to be a major blow for future aircraft to come out of that company.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: virtuali on May 25, 2011, 06:26:31 pm
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: sjt375 on May 25, 2011, 09:36:10 pm
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...

it is a PMDG forum, within a work in progress forum, within a backdoor forum, WITHIN an FSDT forum... FORUMCEPTION
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: cmpbllsjc on May 25, 2011, 11:52:33 pm
Two products that we are eagerly awaiting!
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on May 26, 2011, 06:51:26 am
it is a PMDG forum, within a work in progress forum, within a backdoor forum, WITHIN an FSDT forum... FORUMCEPTION

hahaha well put.

Two products that we are eagerly awaiting!

+1. Both of them will be stellar, I can't wait to have my PMDG NGX at KLAX (and JFK, KORD, etc...)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on May 26, 2011, 04:18:18 pm
PMDG Needs to have a stellar model of the 737NG.  Because anything else would prove to be a major blow for future aircraft to come out of that company.

Precision Manuals has always made their aircraft with as much authenticity to the real thing as legally possible, I expect nothing less from the NGX.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: PUP4ORD on May 26, 2011, 04:47:11 pm
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...
Sorry Umberto,It just happens to be two companies that are at the top of the list in product development, (PMDG)[NGX],(FSDT)[KLAX];
The flight simulation community has been eagerly awaiting for a long time. :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: _Dre_ on May 27, 2011, 10:27:28 pm
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...

it is a PMDG forum, within a work in progress forum, within a backdoor forum, WITHIN an FSDT forum... FORUMCEPTION

LMAO.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 27, 2011, 11:04:09 pm
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...

it is a PMDG forum, within a work in progress forum, within a backdoor forum, WITHIN an FSDT forum... FORUMCEPTION

LMAO.

Huh??
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: newmanix on May 30, 2011, 12:44:30 am
Is this a pmdg OR fsdt FORUM?

I wonder...

it is a PMDG forum, within a work in progress forum, within a backdoor forum, WITHIN an FSDT forum... FORUMCEPTION

LMAO.

Huh??

Yes Lindbergh72. You see... FSDT creates the world of a Forum. PMDG brings the subjects into that forum and they fill it with their posts... You see, they thought this was a PMDG forum. Posting in the FSDT forum feels like the real PMDG forum while they were posting in it. It's only when they hit the post button, that they realized something was actually strange. Or at least they should have realised it anyway...

It doesn't really get much more off topic then this... ::)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Frank Lindberg on May 30, 2011, 06:43:46 am
yeah... maybe U are right...hehe  :D BTW, you can call me Frank.   ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: newmanix on May 30, 2011, 11:33:48 am
yeah... maybe U are right...hehe  :D BTW, you can call me Frank.   ;)

Okay monsieur Frank  ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: goodperson36 on June 07, 2011, 03:44:21 am
Man How long does it take to get KLAX done this is way to long. I hope they don't go out of business...
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Boeing787 on June 07, 2011, 05:08:12 am
Man How long does it take to get KLAX done this is way to long. I hope they don't go out of business...

I know it can be hard to keep patient, especially with the beautiful sceneries FSDT puts out, but I truly believe that this waiting will pay off significantly once this scenery is released. Wouldn't you rather have a scenery full of the minute details and with no bugs than with one that would be the opposite? Also, they did say that they were using different techniques for LAX that they haven't used yet, so this will take some time also. So, no worries...it will be released when it's ready ;)

By the way Umberto, I was studying some satellite images and aerial views of KLAX and noticed that this airport has two different airport surveillance radars (ASR's). One I had mentioned for consideration of inclusion quite awhile back...this one being on the southern perimeter of the airport right next to the gate gourmet building and facing the Imperial Hwy. Compared to other Airport ASR's that I have seen, it is a little shorter....im sure you can find photos of it online.  But, there is another ASR on the northern side of the airport. This one is near the intersection of Westchester Pkwy and Lincoln Blvd (just east of it to be exact), and can be found between these roads. This one is quite tiny and almost doesn't have much of a tower that it sits on. Another interesting object around this same area (the northern side of the airport) is what I think is a type of surface movement radar that can be found immediately north of the said Westchester Pkwy/Lincoln Blvd intersection and is pretty much on a golf course. I was wondering if these objects could be included in the scenery, since periphery airport installments has always fascinated me and will only add to the minor details that I know will make this scenery into a class of its own. In fact, most developers would probably turn a blind eye to such detail. If these could be included that would be awesome, but if not then no worries, I know LAX will be what we all have hoped for  :)

Joel
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: AA777-200ER on June 07, 2011, 05:34:31 am
I wonder what's going on...at least they should communicate every two to three weeks so we know what’s going on or even to say there busy with family/business matters, etc.

Darryl
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: max767 on June 07, 2011, 05:49:46 am
FSDT, as you know you have lots of followers in result of quality payware that you produce.....FSDT, your fans are anxiously awaiting any kind of news. I too am on pins and needles to see this scenery come to life is FS. Any news is good for me regardless of delays or whatever the case maybe. I do understand that we all have lives outside of work and additional hobbies we wish to fulfill. Would you please be so kind to let us know anything. Thank you......till then, HAPPY FLYING EVERYONE  :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: virtuali on June 07, 2011, 10:04:13 am
Don't worry about KLAX, is progressing steadily, and we are working full time on it, it's just our most complex airport to date, especially the 3D modeling has been raised up in detail from KDFW, and we are using a even better method to create the ground, and a new method to create realistic shadows, which takes a lot of time, especially to create screenshots, that's why we are publishing less screenshots than usual, just to not take away any development time, but it's all fine, and it's guaranteed this will be our best looking airport to date.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Boeing787 on June 07, 2011, 10:51:35 am
Well, this is what I expected...can't wait to see the new benchmark this scenery sets in the Flightsim world :) Umberto, I also forget to mention, will this scenery have those flashing wig-wags at taxiway/runway crossings? Those would be another nice, added detail  :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Anders Bermann on June 07, 2011, 02:26:33 pm
Thanks, Umberto for explaining...
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on June 07, 2011, 04:26:02 pm
Thanks for the brief update Umberto. I cannot wait for this scenery; I can only hope we are near release!

Regards
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: aircanadajet on June 07, 2011, 06:05:21 pm
Don't worry about KLAX, is progressing steadily, and we are working full time on it, it's just our most complex airport to date, especially the 3D modeling has been raised up in detail from KDFW, and we are using a even better method to create the ground, and a new method to create realistic shadows, which takes a lot of time, especially to create screenshots, that's why we are publishing less screenshots than usual, just to not take away any development time, but it's all fine, and it's guaranteed this will be our best looking airport to date.

This is too sad!!! I leave to EU next week and I'll be gone for month! I don't think I am going to able to survive....
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Boeing787 on June 07, 2011, 07:39:07 pm
No worries guys, it's going to be well worth the wait! It's going to blow our minds for sure  ;D  Keep taking how much ever time you need Umberto to give us a truly out-of-this-world representation of a Flightsim favorite, and please keep us posted when you can with new screenshots whenever you feel they are worthy enough to show.
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Anders Bermann on June 08, 2011, 02:35:37 pm
Agreed!

Well said ;)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: juniormafia27 on June 11, 2011, 07:28:32 am
No worries guys, it's going to be well worth the wait! It's going to blow our minds for sure  ;D  Keep taking how much ever time you need Umberto to give us a truly out-of-this-world representation of a Flightsim favorite, and please keep us posted when you can with new screenshots whenever you feel they are worthy enough to show.

 ;D There is nothing like getting blowed!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on June 11, 2011, 03:42:29 pm
;D There is nothing like getting blowed!!!!! :)

:o :o :o
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: theshack440 on June 11, 2011, 05:25:26 pm
;D There is nothing like getting blowed!!!!! :)

:o :o :o

+1 LOL
Title: Re: Work in Progress / 06
Post by: sjt375 on June 11, 2011, 07:31:35 pm
;D There is nothing like getting blowed!!!!! :)

:o :o :o

+1 LOL

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