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Title: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on May 25, 2021, 04:52:38 pm
Fsdreamteam is happy to announce the release of a new product, Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020.

It's an high quality mesh for the whole country of Switzerland, derived from an original 1m resolution elevation data from the Federal Office of Topography ( Swisstopo ), resampled in 10m and 20m meters for the best performances.  The mesh has been carefully made to not cover any airports, to prevent possible compatibility problems with default or 3rd party airports. A set of hundreds of Landmark POIs to mark Peaks, Valleys and Dams is included.

- Original resolution Lidar/Stereocorrelation at 1m

- Two installers provided, one at 10m resolution, another one at 20m, choose the best for your hardware.

- Special processing to exclude the mesh entirely around the airport perimeters, to prevent any possible conflicts.

- Data is blended with elevation data of nearby countries, to prevent spikes or holes at the borders.

- Terrain morphing is greatly reduced compared to default scenery.

Switzerland Mesh for MSFS can be bought on FSDT Website:

http://fsdreamteam.com/products_chmesh_msfs.html

It's also available on Simmarket, and will be available on the MS Markeplace soon.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Metall4You on May 25, 2021, 06:14:15 pm
Hello

Witch Cities are included in the Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020?

Kind Regards

Ramon
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: tajimak on May 25, 2021, 09:19:20 pm
Hello I just bought the Swiss Mesh from SimMarket and excited. Somehow, after installing, Couatle Live Update keeps indicating an error, saying "...\Addon Manager\Couati\Switzerland Mesh 1.0.lw.xml not found, license cannot be verified". Well, let us know how this can be fixed. Thanks.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on May 25, 2021, 10:23:55 pm
Hello I just bought the Swiss Mesh from SimMarket and excited. Somehow, after installing, Couatle Live Update keeps indicating an error, saying "...\Addon Manager\Couati\Switzerland Mesh 1.0.lw.xml not found, license cannot be verified". Well, let us know how this can be fixed. Thanks.

Already fixed, just run the installer again.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on May 25, 2021, 10:27:03 pm
Witch Cities are included in the Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020?

Mesh sceneries don't included cities, they are a set of elevation data at a more precise resolution than the default scenery, which makes rough terrain, mountains and valleys more easily recognizable, which for Switzerland is very relevant.

However, since the mesh covers the whole country, cities included, except airports ( the mesh is made so that airports won't be affected ), if a city in real life has some visible elevation, it might show up better with a more detailed mesh.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: tajimak on May 26, 2021, 02:05:09 pm
Thanks for your quick attention. It is fixed now.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: johann724 on May 26, 2021, 11:27:23 pm
Hi

I am very happy with the Swiss Mesh. Well done!!
However I miss the Monte Rosa alpine hut as well as the tower and the structures on the summit of Säntis. I hope for a future update that will incorporate these buildings.!
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: rick66 on May 27, 2021, 07:46:14 am
Umberto, I found a spike using the 10mtr mesh, Not sure of the coordinates but it's just near Zurich heading into the Alps.

https://imgur.com/wTK2Wf9 (https://imgur.com/wTK2Wf9)
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on May 27, 2021, 09:40:01 am
Umberto, I found a spike using the 10mtr mesh, Not sure of the coordinates but it's just near Zurich heading into the Alps.

Well check that. Have you tried if it happens with the 20m version too ?
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: rick66 on May 27, 2021, 11:27:35 am
Umberto, I found a spike using the 10mtr mesh, Not sure of the coordinates but it's just near Zurich heading into the Alps.

Well check that. Have you tried if it happens with the 20m version too ?
Not yet, just installed it now so i''l have a look.
Edit: 20m is fine no spikes, But i did find LSZC(Home of Pilatus) has the foothills behind sliced, Maybe you can't fix it because of the location of the airport and your tile method. All good though, I've flown most of the Alps today and these were the only anomalies i found with 10m.
Nice Job.
LSZC https://i.imgur.com/nGWGfyc.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/nGWGfyc.jpg)
No spikes 20mt https://i.imgur.com/gU34a2J.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/gU34a2J.jpg)
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: SK10 on May 28, 2021, 12:19:43 pm
As good as it looks, it is unusable for me unfortunately as it creates massive stutters, which in VR is a buzzkill. Once I have uninstalled it, all back to smooth sailing. Its sad as it really looks amazing flying over the alps.
Maybe I have to high settings for this product, but I'm not willing to dial it down...so it was a try at least.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gregorlakis11 on June 21, 2021, 02:52:17 pm


Hello, purchased Swiss Mesh from MS Marketplace. I experienced a dramatic drop of performance when flying in Switzerland due to the severe stutter of MSFS. My hardware: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Super, 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3000. Please advise how to change the resolution from 10 m to 20 m and if there is another way to solve this issue. Unfortunately in your sales description, nothing is mentioned about the minimum hardware requirements in order to run Swiss Mesh smoothly.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 21, 2021, 03:32:09 pm
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Hello, purchased Swiss Mesh from MS Marketplace. I experienced a dramatic drop of performance when flying in Switzerland due to the severe stutter of MSFS. My hardware: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Super, 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3000. Please advise how to change the resolution from 10 m to 20 m

The 10 m version is a bit heavier on performance, but surely nothing "dramatic" like you are describing.

When users purchase the scenery from our site, or on Simmarket, we provide two separate installers, one for the 10 m version and another one for the 20 m version.

We asked Microsoft if it was possible to do something like that for the MS Markeplace version, but unfortunately their system doesn't support two different versions of the same product available at the same time with a user-selected installation option, so we only supplied the 10 m version, which works just fine.

If you contact support by email, with some kind of proof of purchase you bought the product on the MS Marketplace, we can create a new license for you on our site, which is the only way to obtain the optional 20 m installer.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gregorlakis11 on June 21, 2021, 04:46:37 pm
Hello,
Thanks for your response.
The terms “ dramatic” and “severe” are not exaggerated! During the stuttering, which occurs every few seconds, the MSI Afterburner displays the following:
GPU usage: 0 %
Frame rate: 5 FPS

The MSFS is “GEFORCE Experience” optimized and runs outside Switzerlands perfectly with 30 FPS.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 21, 2021, 05:00:04 pm
The terms “ dramatic” and “severe” are not exaggerated! During the stuttering, which occurs every few seconds, the MSI Afterburner displays the following:

Nobody ever reported something that bad. However, as I already replied to you by email, we created a license for the FSDT version of the installer, so you can try the 20 m version.


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The MSFS is “GEFORCE Experience” optimized and runs outside Switzerlands perfectly with 30 FPS.

Don't use GeForce Experience to optimize MSFS, it use settings which are very bad. Try to use a preset in MSFS, and don't let GeForce experience touch it
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gregorlakis11 on June 21, 2021, 05:54:43 pm
As mentioned before my MSFS is running perfectly with the actual settings and I am hesitant to make any changes. It will very much appreciated if you could explain to me why the “GEFORCE Experience “ is bad and what is an MSFS preset.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 21, 2021, 11:50:52 pm
It will very much appreciated if you could explain to me why the “GEFORCE Experience “ is bad and

The GeForce Experience optimization for MSFS seems to be focused only on fps, so they in fact lower some graphical settings for no reason, resulting in bad image quality, while they completely ignore other that are not strictly related to the GPU.

While this might work on some games, a program as complex as MSFS is really more about finding balance between things that are hard on the GPU, things that are hard on the CPU and things that require some *balance* in the way the two work together.

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what is an MSFS preset.

the general preset setting, like "high end", "medium", "ultra", etc. They are reasonable starting point.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Alex911747 on June 22, 2021, 12:21:17 am
The terms “ dramatic” and “severe” are not exaggerated! During the stuttering, which occurs every few seconds, the MSI Afterburner displays the following:

Nobody ever reported something that bad. However, as I already replied to you by email, we created a license for the FSDT version of the installer, so you can try the 20 m version.


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The MSFS is “GEFORCE Experience” optimized and runs outside Switzerlands perfectly with 30 FPS.

Don't use GeForce Experience to optimize MSFS, it use settings which are very bad. Try to use a preset in MSFS, and don't let GeForce experience touch it

Hello,

I also have the same problems with Switzerland mesh.

I run MSFS in Ultra graphic preset, and usually get 30-35 fps.
With the mesh, it goes down to 5 fps every 15-20 seconds, and even freezes the game for 5-10 seconds every 30 seconds...
I had to uninstall it, and everything is back to normal with 30-35 fps...

Even though I already contacted support to get access to the 20m mesh version which I have not tested yet, I wanted to let you know that it seems that the performance drops and stutters reported above are not an isolated case...
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gregorlakis11 on June 22, 2021, 01:46:41 pm
Please bear in mind that my frame rate is limited to 30 FPS and this is the optimum frame rate for MSFS!
However, to make long short the 20 m version is running satisfactorily smoother. My suggestion is to adapt your sales description and point out the performance impact of the 10 m version or to define the minimum hardware requirements!!!
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 23, 2021, 10:42:14 am
My suggestion is to adapt your sales description and point out the performance impact of the 10 m version or to define the minimum hardware requirements!!!

There's no point doing that because, all customers buying from our site ( and on Simmarket too ), will get two download links, so they can simply use the installer more suited to their specs and preference.

Also, it's impossible to specify some hardware requirements, because we can't obviously know what the user settings are how many other add-ons are installed, that's precisely why we made two versions.

The problem is only the MS Marketplace that doesn't allow offering to *alternate* version of the same product.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: FerrevmVnion on June 23, 2021, 11:15:36 am
Hi,
i also got stuttering/freezing while Switzerland Mesh is active in the sim (and flying around the covered area)

PC Spec
i5-10600KF | 32 GB DDR4 RAM | GTX 1080 8GB

MSFS is running pretty smooth no FPS issues... and me main problem with the switzerland mesh is not getting low fps; its the freezing of the game for several seconds (sometimes CTD) ... freezing occurs most when "looking" around in the cockpit, but more often on external view & moving around -
I just checked the GPU Memory Load
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Ben79 on June 23, 2021, 03:27:53 pm
Hello
I bought the Switzerland Mesh from Simmarket
and everything works fine, except maybe the 10m mesh
which often makes micro cuts, but the 20m is going very well.
I also bought the mesh on the MSFS store and there it is the disaster
impossible to fly loading times before arriving on the track are very long and on the track very long stops
impossible to fly.
For your information I had the same problem with the scene
4 Season Pack - V5 Released - Multi Season Spring / Fall released on MarketPlace downloaded from MSFS store.
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Official Third Party Devs
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From Microsoft Support today regarding Spring N, Fall S .:

“New version without encryption will be released today to fix performance.”
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Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 23, 2021, 03:30:53 pm
i also got stuttering/freezing while Switzerland Mesh is active in the sim (and flying around the covered area)

Have you read the previous posts ? The 20 m version surely peform better but you don't say which version you tried or where you bought it from because:

- if you bought it from the FSDT or Simmarket, you can just uninstall and try the 20 version which was included in your download.

- if you bought it from the MS Marketplace, as already explained in previous posts in this thread, you must contact support BY EMAIL, with a proof of purchase, so we can issue a free license on the FSDT website, which will let you access the alternative 20 m version.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 23, 2021, 03:38:17 pm
and everything works fine, except maybe the 10m mesh
which often makes micro cuts, but the 20m is going very well.

Yes, of course the 20 m version works better, but the 10 m still works reasonably well and in fact, according to your report, it's doing only micro stutters, that's normal. That's why we have a 20 m version to choose from.

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I also bought the mesh on the MSFS store and there it is the disaster

Please clarify: you bought the same scenery twice, on Simmarket AND on the MS Store ? No wonder it's a "disaster": it's possible you know have TWO mesh installed at the same time, the one from the MS Marketplace and the one from Simmarket.

The issue is, all products bought from the MS Marketplace always install in the "Official" folder, while products bought elsewhere installs in the "Community" folder so, if you bought a product twice, it's possible to get two versions installed at the same time.

If this is the case, remove the MS Marketplace version using the Content Manager, and leave only the version in the community folder, which you can choose between 20 m and 10 m.

Of course, even when using the FSDT/Simmarket installer, be sure you don't install the 10 m and the 20 m versions at the same time. If you switch from a version to another, you MUST Uninstall the one you don't use. Don't worry about activation, you can uninstall/reinstall an unlimited number of times on the same system, the only time you need to reactivate, if if you change major hardware components or reinstall Windows.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Ben79 on June 24, 2021, 08:33:35 am
Hello
yes I bought the same set twice, on Simmarket AND on the MS Store.
I like having it all in one place.
Of course I delete one version each time before installing another.
To be sure I completely deleted MSFS from my computer (for info I have the Steam version) and even deleted Steam and then I redo the whole installation with the empty community folder, launched MSFS and installed the MS mesh Marketplace.
Still the same problem not possible to fly, just a few images every 30sec or so.
For me it's okay I have the version of Simmarket which works great.
I just wanted to let you know about the issue with the MS Marketplace version.

Good flight everyone

Sorry I don't speak English, google translation
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on June 28, 2021, 01:47:08 pm
For me it's okay I have the version of Simmarket which works great.
I just wanted to let you know about the issue with the MS Marketplace version.

It wasn't very clear from your first message, it seemed you had problem with the 20 m version too. It seems you don't so, the only issue your system simply cannot handle the 10 m version, which is the only one available on the MS Marketplace.

I would like to find a way to let MS Marketplace user easier access to the 20 m version but, the MS Marketplace simply doesn't support that, the only alternative would be releasing it as a separate product but even in that case, the MS Marketplace doesn't allow us to give it for free to users of the 10 m version ( which might have been a solution )

The solution we are using now, is to manually generate a new order on our site, for free, to everybody that contacts us with some proof of purchase of their order, so they can have access to both installers.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gdnross on July 08, 2021, 09:47:31 am
Hi
I just purchased this mesh on MSFS Marketplace and joined this forum to find out if others were experiencing the same unplayable stuttering.
It appears that it is a common problem
What is the plan ?
Are FSDT or MSFS going to rectify it ?
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 08, 2021, 01:37:40 pm
What is the plan ? Are FSDT or MSFS going to rectify it ?

Haven't even read my last post, the one just before yours ? I think it should be abundantly clear what "the plan" is, and what you are supposed to do. Re-read my last post again, especially this line:

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The solution we are using now, is to manually generate a new order on our site, for free, to everybody that contacts us with some proof of purchase of their order, so they can have access to both installers.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gdnross on July 10, 2021, 09:32:48 am
That solution too much hassle for me.
Should never have been released on MSFS Marketplace if it doesn’t work.
I’ll first try to get a refund before trying your “solution”.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gdnross on July 10, 2021, 09:45:28 am
Can’t get a refund and I have emailed receipt to you for your proposed version, thanks
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 10, 2021, 06:24:16 pm
That solution too much hassle for me.

I don't know what you are trying to say here. The only one having to do extra work are us, to manually create a new free order on our site, you are not supposed to do anything, other than asking for it.

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Should never have been released on MSFS Marketplace if it doesn’t work.

It works just fine but, of course, not every system is the same. Every product being sold on the MS Marketplace is TESTED by MS testers so, if a product has been approved, it means IT WORKS, at least on the tester's systems, which we might assume are well maintained, with not much extra add-ons, etc.

But we know users have different systems, using many add-ons together, which is why we released two versions but, again, it's not possible to release two versions of the same product without charging twice on the MS Marketplace, we even ASKED Microsoft if there was a possible solution to let MS Marketplace users have access to BOTH versions, just like every other user buying directly from us or from Simmarket, but they said it's not possible.

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I’ll first try to get a refund before trying your “solution”.

So, you are saying that asking by email for a free copy on the FSDT site, which will give you access to both versions of the scenery, is more of an "hassle" than:

- Asking MICROSOFT for a refund, hoping they'll grant it to you.

- Buy the product again on the FSDT website ?
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gdnross on July 10, 2021, 06:45:17 pm
Like millions of MSFS users, I just plug and play. I assume that what I buy will work and don’t know how to use third party installers.
I only read the first page of posts showing widespread issues when I sent my original post asking what was being planned - I admit I never read your post.

Now that I have I sent you my receipt as you offer. Is that now withdrawn ?
I am not asking for anything free - just something that works - I have already bought it.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 10, 2021, 06:58:22 pm
Like millions of MSFS users, I just plug and play. I assume that what I buy will work and don’t know how to use third party installers.

Of course it works. But again, PC systems are so varied, that even if something that works perfectly here, works perfectly on MS testing team systems and works perfectly for the vast majority of users, we still cannot be sure it will work  perfectly FOR EVERYBODY.

WHICH IS WHY, knowing this, we made two version which, as I've explained so many times already, it's something not allowed on the MS Marketplace, only you were prepared two pay again for a new different product.

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I only read the first page of posts showing widespread issues when I sent my original post asking what was being planned - I admit I never read your post.

My post we just above yours. And "widespread" is an exaggeration, of course. Even if this thread has 3 pages, only 6 different users posted on it, including you. So no, it's not "widespread".

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Now that I have I sent you my receipt as you offer. Is that now withdrawn?

And where, exactly, you can read from anything I wrote the offer is "withdrawn" ?

If you cared to check your email, you would have seen that:

1) You have already been sent a new order confirmation with a first email. The email with the order confirmation has been sent 4 minutes BEFORE you posted this message accusing us to have "withdrawn" from the offer.

2) You have been already sent instructions how to install the mesh, with a second email. The email with instructions how to install it has been sent 3 minutes AFTER you wrote your post. I apologize for taking 7 minutes to write the 2nd email, next time I'll try to write faster...
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Gdnross on July 10, 2021, 07:46:57 pm
Your email came in 17 minutes after I replied to your post so obviously I hadn’t seen it.
Just forget it - I don’t care
I have blocked you in email and will sign out for good.
Goodbye.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 10, 2021, 08:25:16 pm
Your email came in 17 minutes after I replied to your post so obviously I hadn’t seen it.

First, as I've said, you have received TWO email, one with the order, which came 4 minutes BEFORE you wrote your post, and another one 7 minutes later, with instructions how to install it because, you know, it takes a bit of time to write the install instructions YOU asked for in your first email asking for a 2nd copy of the product.

So you read it later and what difference does it make, exactly ?

When sending an email to any kind of business, it's customary to wait AT LEAST 24 *working* hours before complaining about anything related to it.

Instead, after you wrote your first email asking for a new copy of the product so you could use our installer ( this morning ), you went here accusing me to have "withdrawn" for that offer, only because you haven't got a reply in a few *hours* without even considering I'm working for you on a weekend.


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Just forget it - I don’t careI have blocked you in email and will sign out for good.

You haven't blocked my email because, while you are posting here, you are continuing to reply to emails, even now, with unrelated comments, instead of doing what I asked, which is sending me a link to some shared space ( Google Drive, Dropbox, MS OneDrive, your choice... ), so I can send you the installers there, so you could get access to the FSDT version of the installers, which contains both the 10m and the 20m version, and I'm sure you'll find the 20m version working much better.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Ben79 on July 29, 2021, 04:16:52 pm
Hello
I come back to give you news,
for the version of the mesh purchased from Simmarket and
since the new update, the 10m version of the mesh works
great and of course the 20m version too. It’s smooth and very beautiful and I’m very happy.

For MSFS Store version even after updating to 20m
still not possible to fly with it.
It would be a shame if users of the store gave a bad rating.
It's not the mesh that's bad there is another problem.
Have a nice day and have a good flight
Ben
google translation i speak french
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 30, 2021, 04:29:43 pm
for the version of the mesh purchased from Simmarket and since the new update, the 10m version of the mesh works great and of course the 20m version too. It’s smooth and very beautiful and I’m very happy.

What do you mean with "since the new update" ? The Sim Update 5 ?

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For MSFS Store version even after updating to 20m still not possible to fly with it.

First, is not possible you could see any difference between the 10m version of the Mesh from FSDT or Simmarket and the 10m version of the Mesh from the MS Store. They should run exactly the same. If you see any difference, be sure you don't have both copies of the mesh installed, one on the Community folder and another one in the Official folder.

Also, I checked the MS Marketplace version, and it's still the 10m version, even if we asked them to replace it with the 20m version, but it hasn't been done yet.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Glenn Fitzpatrick on July 30, 2021, 08:09:16 pm


Also, I checked the MS Marketplace version, and it's still the 10m version, even if we asked them to replace it with the 20m version, but it hasn't been done yet.

Hi.

I just purchased the marketplace version for PC (basically because it was advertised as 30% off)

I am confused.  I was under the impression the marketplace version would be the 10 m mesh, which is the version I want.

Is the marketplace version going to be downgraded to 20m ? If so how can I get a copy of the 10m version.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on July 31, 2021, 09:18:05 am
I just purchased the marketplace version for PC (basically because it was advertised as 30% off)

I am confused.  I was under the impression the marketplace version would be the 10 m mesh, which is the version I want.

Is the marketplace version going to be downgraded to 20m ? If so how can I get a copy of the 10m version.

The marketplace version is the 20m version, because several users asked for better performance and the difference visually is not noticeable, since the original source is 1m data.

The way the MS Marketplace works, doesn't make possible to offer the same product in two versions without buying it twice, something we can do on our site instead, since our customers will be sent two installers, which is not possible on the Marketplace, we had to choose, so the 10m version is going to be replaced soon, but we don't know exactly why.

If you want to have both, as clearly explained in this thread, you can contact support with a proof of purchase, so we can create an order on our site, which will give you access to both installers.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Ben79 on July 31, 2021, 04:46:33 pm
Yes after SU5

Of course I never install 2 identical mesh at the same time
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: StefanG on July 31, 2021, 07:59:06 pm
Hello, I was wondering about the marketplace version because the used space on my drive is about 593 MB size. But If I think right, the size of the download was about 2GB. And yes, it doesn't work.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on August 04, 2021, 03:34:49 pm
Hello, I was wondering about the marketplace version because the used space on my drive is about 593 MB size. But If I think right, the size of the download was about 2GB. And yes, it doesn't work.

We initially released the 10 m version ( which is 2GB ), but since some users reported stuttering with it, we decided to replace it with the 20 m on the Marketplace, which is 600MB.

Now, the way the MS Marketplace installation works, is if you install a scenery from scratch, it will first download the original version, then a patch, and it will combine the two in the final version. Usually you don't notice this, because upgrades are either larger or the same size of the original file, but in this case is evident because you are downloading 2.6 GB to keep only 600MB. We are not sure if THIS process might be the cause of why the MS Marketplace doesn't work, we still haven't heard from Microsoft yet, and it might even be possible they'll fix it on their side with nothing left to do.

However, as confirmed multiple times, while Microsoft sorts out this problem, you can contact support with a proof of purchase ( even a screenshot from MSFS saying you own the Swiss Mesh will do ), we'll send you a free copy of our version, which surely works and, will let you choose which version to install, 10 or 20 m.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Nalonsirhc on August 04, 2021, 03:40:18 pm
Hi Umberto, would this procedure (you sending a free copy of the 20m Version) also work for Xbox Users?? I have purchased the Mesh last week and - as it is the 10m Version, which apparently the Xbox Hardware can't handle - the game freezes for up to 30 seconds in places...
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on August 04, 2021, 04:44:12 pm
Hi Umberto, would this procedure (you sending a free copy of the 20m Version) also work for Xbox Users??

Unfortunately not, there's no way to install anything on the Xbox without passing through the Marketplace.

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I have purchased the Mesh last week and - as it is the 10m Version, which apparently the Xbox Hardware can't handle - the game freezes for up to 30 seconds in places...

Are you sure it's the 10 m version ?

There has been an update, and it has been replaced with the 20 m version on the Marketplace. Check the version, which should be 1.1.0.0 and the description, which should read "resampled to 20m for the best performances". The way the Marketplace works, the title must stay the same to be considered an upgrade for an existing product so, be sure you have the latest 1.1.0 version.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Tinu101 on August 04, 2021, 07:07:52 pm
Hello
I use the Steam-Version of MSFS. So i purchased the Switzerland Mesh on the Marketplace

The problem was after installing the Switzerland Mesh Scenery Pack.
The MSFS hangs (frozzen) after selecting "FLY".
After loading the next screen (before Ready to fly) the application hangs after loading approximately 60%.
When i delete the Switzerland Mesh Scenery Pack in the content manager everything works fine
After reinstalling the application hangs again.
Any ideas?
If i use the steam version of MSFS: Can i purchase the 10m and 20m here an install this version?
Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Martin
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: Glenn Fitzpatrick on August 07, 2021, 10:35:17 am
Thanks for your assistance much appreciated.

I followed your advice and installed the 20m version but it is good to have access to both in just in case.

Your helpful response has encouraged me to also buy the Quiberon and Zurich airports with the current 30% discount which I am about to download.
Title: Re: FSDT releases Switzerland Mesh for MSFS 2020
Post by: virtuali on August 09, 2021, 11:37:16 am
The problem was after installing the Switzerland Mesh Scenery Pack.
The MSFS hangs (frozzen) after selecting "FLY".

Please read here for a solution:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,25407.msg167091.html#msg167091