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Title: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 08, 2019, 07:02:11 pm
Hello,

Is there any update that will make this new Airplane work with GSX?

I get no matter if i configurate a new airplane, nor open all the doors, the message Open Exit2...

luggage does not load either.

Cheers.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Pirateinparadise on November 08, 2019, 07:42:02 pm
Until Umberto gets back....

This works for the Southwest variant. There are probably some minor errors as I coped these values from using "Customize aircraft" on the NGX and then manually inputting them into customize aircraft for the NGXu, but it'll do until they are added to GSX's internal database. I have NOT tested the staircase position. I have them disabled at the airport where I tested this. Just adjust it in the customize aircraft editor if it's wrong. It should be close.


[aircraft]
nosegear = 12.39
refueling = 0
battery = 0
pushbackraise = 0
pushbackdummyevent = 0
iscargo = 0
trafficcones = 1
preferredexit =  0
wingrootpos = 3.88 -1.46 0.46
wingtippos = 15.19 -6.70 1.35
fuelpos = 13.28 -5.77 0.99
waterpos = 0.00 0.00 -0.00
lavatorypos = 0.00 0.00 -0.00
engine1pos = -4.95 1.05 -0.79
engine2pos = 4.95 1.05 -0.78
engine3pos = 0.00 0.00 0.00
engine4pos = 0.00 0.00 0.00

[exit1]
pos = -1.67 11.51 0.44 7.80
code = (L:NGXFwdLeftCabinDoor,number)
name = L Entry FWD
embeddedStair = 0

[exit2]
remove = 1

[exit3]
remove = 1

[exit4]
pos = -1.47 -15.54 0.46 -12.00
code = (L:NGXAftLeftCabinDoor, bool)
name = L Entry AFT
embeddedStair = 0

[service1]
pos = 1.61 11.89 0.46 -8.60
code = (L:NGXFwdRightCabinDoor, bool)
name = R Entry FWD
embeddedStair = 0

[service2]
pos = 1.46 -15.54 0.44 11.00
code = (L:NGXAftRightCabinDoor, bool)
name = R Entry AFT
embeddedStair = 0

[cargo1]
pos = 0.77 8.02 -0.98 0.00
code = (L:NGXFwdCargoDoor, bool)
name = Cargo FWD
embeddedStair = 0
uldcode = AUTO

[cargo2]
pos = 0.85 -11.59 -0.86 10.00
code = (L:NGXAftCargoDoor, bool)
name = Cargo AFT
embeddedStair = 0
uldcode = AUTO

[cargomain]
remove = 1
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 08, 2019, 07:55:19 pm
My man!!
thanks a lot!

I am actually testing it on a Turkish and it seems to be working..
apreciate it!!
cheers
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 08, 2019, 07:59:21 pm
Until Umberto gets back....

This works for the Southwest variant. There are probably some minor errors as I coped these values from using "Customize aircraft" on the NGX and then manually inputting them into customize aircraft for the NGXu, but it'll do until they are added to GSX's internal database. I have NOT tested the staircase position. I have them disabled at the airport where I tested this. Just adjust it in the customize aircraft editor if it's wrong. It should be close.

  • Create a folder called "PMDG 737-800NGXu SSW" in your C:\Users\<your_username>\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\Airplanes\ folder.
  • Create a new text document called "gsx.cfg" in your newly created folder.
  • Paste the red text below into the gsx.cfg file and save it.
  • Enjoy!

[aircraft]
nosegear = 12.39
refueling = 0
battery = 0
pushbackraise = 0
pushbackdummyevent = 0
iscargo = 0
trafficcones = 1
preferredexit =  0
wingrootpos = 3.88 -1.46 0.46
wingtippos = 15.19 -6.70 1.35
fuelpos = 13.28 -5.77 0.99
waterpos = 0.00 0.00 -0.00
lavatorypos = 0.00 0.00 -0.00
engine1pos = -4.95 1.05 -0.79
engine2pos = 4.95 1.05 -0.78
engine3pos = 0.00 0.00 0.00
engine4pos = 0.00 0.00 0.00

[exit1]
pos = -1.67 11.51 0.44 7.80
code = (L:NGXFwdLeftCabinDoor,number)
name = L Entry FWD
embeddedStair = 0

[exit2]
remove = 1

[exit3]
remove = 1

[exit4]
pos = -1.47 -15.54 0.46 -12.00
code = (L:NGXAftLeftCabinDoor, bool)
name = L Entry AFT
embeddedStair = 0

[service1]
pos = 1.61 11.89 0.46 -8.60
code = (L:NGXFwdRightCabinDoor, bool)
name = R Entry FWD
embeddedStair = 0

[service2]
pos = 1.46 -15.54 0.44 11.00
code = (L:NGXAftRightCabinDoor, bool)
name = R Entry AFT
embeddedStair = 0

[cargo1]
pos = 0.77 8.02 -0.98 0.00
code = (L:NGXFwdCargoDoor, bool)
name = Cargo FWD
embeddedStair = 0
uldcode = AUTO

[cargo2]
pos = 0.85 -11.59 -0.86 10.00
code = (L:NGXAftCargoDoor, bool)
name = Cargo AFT
embeddedStair = 0
uldcode = AUTO

[cargomain]
remove = 1

Can i thank u in my Facebook page?
cheers
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Pirateinparadise on November 08, 2019, 09:19:37 pm
Fire away. I'm not on the book of face, so I'll never see it... Take credit and everything. LOL ;D

And the aft staircase position looks good. I just landed at an airport with them enabled. 
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: vrouleau on November 08, 2019, 09:24:07 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 08, 2019, 09:26:25 pm
Thanks!
LOL nope, no need to take what is not mine.. works... smooth!
cheers mate
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: airbadger on November 09, 2019, 11:42:31 pm
Speaking of NGXU, is there a reason baggage unloading is completed so quickly? It's done it like 2 minutes.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 09, 2019, 11:45:35 pm
Speaking of NGXU, is there a reason baggage unloading is completed so quickly? It's done it like 2 minutes.
is that faster than the rest? could not say.. 2 min sounds like all of them.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Captain Kevin on November 10, 2019, 01:24:23 am
What are your payload weights.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 02:44:29 pm
Native support for the PMDG 737 Update is online now on Live Update.

Please remove *every* customization file you made/downloaded before the update, otherwise the native support won't be used.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: rcoultas62 on November 10, 2019, 03:34:32 pm
Thanks Umberto!
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 04:42:02 pm
Thanks alot.

But could You please fix the re-fueling gue from hovering high above the aircraft wing as if he is using a jetpack ?

This is where the fuel is drawn from a well on the appron  beside the aircraft - think it´s called fuel hydrant.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 04:51:31 pm
But could You please fix the re-fueling gue from hovering high above the aircraft wing as if he is using a jetpack ?

Nothing of that is happening.

The 737 wing is not high enough to have a refueling guy ( either Tanker or Hydrant ) because, such vehicles will appear ONLY if the refueling point under the wing is higher than 3.40 meters, and the configuration we made for the 737 is surely lower than that so, you are supposed to see the smaller vehicle with no guy.

If you are seeing the guy, it's because you are not using the GSX internal configuration, you are probably using one you made/downloaded which has the refueling point wrong or not set at all.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 05:27:40 pm
Sorry to say, but GSX Aircarft editor tells:

Aircraft data available from these sources: Internal Database
Aircraft data used by GSX: Internal Database

I have removed all 737 profiles from: C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\Airplanes\
Only profiles present are those for the, Maddog X, Majestic Dash 8 Q-400, PMDG 747-8's and PMDG-400's

There are no GSX.cfg files in the PMDG 747 NGXu aircraft folders (under Simobjects).

Note that I'm used to navigate through the P3D folder structure.


Finn Jacobsen
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 05:54:09 pm
Aircraft data available from these sources: Internal Database
Aircraft data used by GSX: Internal Database

This means it's not possible you'll ever see either of the two vehicles ( Tanker or Hydrant ) that have a guy because, as I've said, the refuel point we configured for the PMDG 737-800/900u is set lower than the lowest ( 3.40 meters ) any of these two vehicles can reach, which means the smaller truck with no guy will appear.

I checked it now, and even with the airplane very light, with only 5% of Fuel, the refueling point height was set at 2.96 meters, which is lower than 3.40 and sure enough, I always get the smaller Fuel vehicle, the Isuzu 7296, which has no platform and no guy.

Be sure you restart Couatl before applying a new config. Switching airplane will do that automatically.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 07:18:34 pm
I fixed it by editing the Airport Gate positions - un-checking underground fuel.
They where setup for underground fueling, which I'm sure that this airport (EKBI) doesn´t have anyway.

Now a small tanker arrives with no persons animated.

Note though that if the underground fueling is checked, then the Hydrant pump vehicle will arrive and couple hoses both to the ground and the aircraft, both hoses connected correctly on the ground well and to the aircraft wing, but one of the guy will be raised as if he where on an elevator and will hover above the wing - maybe something to look into, since the re-fueling port of the airvraft seems correct.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 07:41:09 pm
Sorry to say, but GSX Aircarft editor tells:

Aircraft data available from these sources: Internal Database
Aircraft data used by GSX: Internal Database

I have removed all 737 profiles from: C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\Airplanes\
Only profiles present are those for the, Maddog X, Majestic Dash 8 Q-400, PMDG 747-8's and PMDG-400's

There are no GSX.cfg files in the PMDG 747 NGXu aircraft folders (under Simobjects).

Note that I'm used to navigate through the P3D folder structure.


Finn Jacobsen

nothing wrong on mine.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 08:00:18 pm
Sorry to say, but GSX Aircarft editor tells:

Aircraft data available from these sources: Internal Database
Aircraft data used by GSX: Internal Database

I have removed all 737 profiles from: C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\Airplanes\
Only profiles present are those for the, Maddog X, Majestic Dash 8 Q-400, PMDG 747-8's and PMDG-400's

There are no GSX.cfg files in the PMDG 747 NGXu aircraft folders (under Simobjects).

Note that I'm used to navigate through the P3D folder structure.


Finn Jacobsen

nothing wrong on mine.

Note that it is Airport dependent. If "Undergroud Fuel" is checked for a stand, this issue might happen.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 08:01:55 pm
Sorry to say, but GSX Aircarft editor tells:

Aircraft data available from these sources: Internal Database
Aircraft data used by GSX: Internal Database

I have removed all 737 profiles from: C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\Airplanes\
Only profiles present are those for the, Maddog X, Majestic Dash 8 Q-400, PMDG 747-8's and PMDG-400's

There are no GSX.cfg files in the PMDG 747 NGXu aircraft folders (under Simobjects).

Note that I'm used to navigate through the P3D folder structure.


Finn Jacobsen

nothing wrong on mine.

Note that it is Airport dependent. If "Undergroud Fuel" is checked for a stand, this issue might happen.
dependent on what. the picture i have sent you is in an airport with the underground fuel on each stand. works on all. I dont get it.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 08:47:13 pm
dependent on what. the picture i have sent you is in an airport with the underground fuel on each stand. works on all. I dont get it.

Right - with underground re-fueling enabled for the Gate, I also see that type of vehicle, which connects fine to the ground Fuel-Well and also connects the re-fueling hose to the wing at the right spot.
BUT for connection to the aircraft, they guy climbs up on the lift, the hose get's connected to the aircraft wing, but then he ascends and hovers above the wing as shown on my picture.

So what's on You picture is also what I saw with the underground fuel enabled, just with the twist that they guys starts to float high above.

Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 08:56:06 pm
dependent on what. the picture i have sent you is in an airport with the underground fuel on each stand. works on all. I dont get it.

Right - with underground re-fueling enabled for the Gate, I also see that type of vehicle, which connects fine to the ground Fuel-Well and also connects the re-fueling hose to the wing at the right spot.
BUT for connection to the aircraft, they guy climbs up on the lift, the hose get's connected to the aircraft wing, but then he ascends and hovers above the wing as shown on my picture.

So what's on You picture is also what I saw with the underground fuel enabled, just with the twist that they guys starts to float high above.
And that can be avoided moving the refueling intake position further out of the wing. and that is why it does not happen to me i guess.
That the intake of the wing is not exactly there... and so many other things are not real .. i guess in real life, vehicles also do not crash with each other and the plane..
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 09:34:00 pm
And that can be avoided moving the refueling intake position further out of the wing. and that is why it does not happen to me i guess.
That the intake of the wing is not exactly there... and so many other things are not real .. i guess in real life, vehicles also do not crash with each other and the plane..

I´m sure You are right, but still this is by using the native (internal database) Aircraft profile, so one of the developers would have to do this.

***Edit***
Using another guy's profile for the PMDG 737 NGXu and with underground fueling enabled, it works fine. All animations look correct.
As You suggested, it seems that he has set the refueling point on the wing a tad further out.
Maybe something the developers should look into for the native one.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 09:54:59 pm
The configuration file for the PMDG 737 is perfect, and the refuel point is on its correct location as in real life:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Ryanair_Boeing_737_refueling.jpg/640px-Ryanair_Boeing_737_refueling.jpg)

The problem was entirely different, and it was the configuration for the Fuel Hydrant which was set to minimum 3.0 meters instead of 3.40 as it should.

Since the PMDG 737 refuel point is 2.96 meters high, I guess a difference in weight ( I tried with 5% fuel to be as light as possible, but maybe you had a lighter payload as well ) resulted in the actual height from ground being higher than 3.0 meters, calling the Hydrant which really cannot work that low, and this explains why I couldn't reproduce the problem and you could.

The fixed file for the Hydrant is on Live Update now.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 09:55:55 pm
dont suffer so much. there is a pack in my facebook page that has the 8 profiles for NGXu that works fine an all of them.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 09:57:26 pm
dont suffer so much. there is a pack in my facebook page that has the 8 profiles for NGXu that works fine an all of them.

No need for that, since the internal configuration that comes with GSX is working perfect as it is.

As I already explained in my previous post, the problem was the configuration of the Hydrant itself, which was set to the wrong value, instead of the 3.40 meters it's supposed to be, so there's no need to move the fuel point to an unrealistic ( too outside ) position, just to "fix" that.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 10:04:42 pm
yes, you explained perfectly but as you can see we posted exactly at the same time, so i could not have read your post.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 10:07:29 pm
I will stil however use mine, since they are really working well, have adjusted stairs also that were not so good. Some were distant from the fwd door and too close or distant from the rear.  Also fine tuned the servce doors.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 10, 2019, 10:19:27 pm
I will stil however use mine, since they are really working well, have adjusted stairs also that were not so good. Some were distant from the fwd door and too close or distant from the rear.  Also fine tuned the servce doors.

The configuration files that comes with GSX for the new PMDG 737 have both stairs and service doors correct to the millimeter.

- Remove your files first and be sure GSX is using the internal data.

- Be sure you use the today's update, because one of the two PBR stairs also had its animation a bit off ( it's not entirely linear, as they usually are ), so you might have assumed the 737 config was wrong, but in fact it was one of the stairs that had the animation not precise enough in their initial frames, which nobody noticed so far, since during the last months after the PBR update, everybody was probably too busy flying with larger (with higher doors) airplanes, so nobody noticed one of the two PBR stairs didn't reach lower height doors so well as the other. Of course, before doing this update, I also updated the affected stairs, and they look absolutely fine for me now.

Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Wothan on November 10, 2019, 10:36:56 pm
Thanks for quick and friendly support  :)
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 10, 2019, 10:43:45 pm
oh i did notice, that is precisely why I did my own configurations of ..all 737 .
I will however test yours, although mine, as have said already fit to the milimiter.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: f.skywalker on November 18, 2019, 08:24:06 am
Thanks for your files.
They work very good for me.
All animations are running with the fuel truck on Ground. (2 People)

do you have a idea About:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,22413.0.html

Thanks
Frank from EDDM
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: cartayna on November 18, 2019, 01:05:37 pm
Thanks for your files.
They work very good for me.
All animations are running with the fuel truck on Ground. (2 People)

do you have a idea About:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,22413.0.html

Thanks
Frank from EDDM
nope, sorry mate. . sounds something more for them than for me.  I have a friend who has the same problem but I do not.
cheers.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Meatservo on November 19, 2019, 05:04:25 pm
A tiny avgas truck shows up instead of a jet-a truck or hydrant. Can I change the fuel type somehow? Using the gsx default profile for the NGXu.

Thanks.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 20, 2019, 11:28:39 pm
A tiny avgas truck shows up instead of a jet-a truck or hydrant. Can I change the fuel type somehow? Using the gsx default profile for the NGXu.

It's entirely normal you'll see a smaller truck, because the Fuel Hydrant with the elevated platform doesn't support airplanes with refueling points under the wing lower than 3.40 meters. It might come with a future update, since it will require a completely different animation.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Meatservo on November 21, 2019, 01:20:23 am
A tiny avgas truck shows up instead of a jet-a truck or hydrant. Can I change the fuel type somehow? Using the gsx default profile for the NGXu.

It's entirely normal you'll see a smaller truck, because the Fuel Hydrant with the elevated platform doesn't support airplanes with refueling points under the wing lower than 3.40 meters. It might come with a future update, since it will require a completely different animation.
Ok cool. Just weird to see avgas truck. Thought I saw Jet-A trucks for the old NGX.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Llondon on November 26, 2019, 01:34:16 am
If you change fuel height in the aircraft configuration menu to 3.41 the fuel hydrant truck will come to refuel.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: virtuali on November 26, 2019, 08:29:57 am
If you change fuel height in the aircraft configuration menu to 3.41 the fuel hydrant truck will come to refuel.

Yes but, in order to not seeing the fuel cable sticking out of the wing on the top side, the refueling position should have to be moved quite a bit towards the exterior too.

We decided to place it in its real position (even if it meant not having the Hydrant and we WILL eventually have a different animation for lower airplanes), but the whole point of being able to customize an airplane in GSX, is that users can always choose to bend realism a bit, if required.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: Llondon on December 24, 2019, 10:14:28 pm
I configured the refueling point to 13.03, -6.11 , 3.5 for the 737 NGXu. The fuel hydrant truck comes and fuels at any level. Workers are animated on the ground. hope this helps... Works when underground fuelling is checked.ftp:// See attached.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: dron960 on December 30, 2019, 10:26:19 am
I configured the refueling point to 13.03, -6.11 , 3.5 for the 737 NGXu. The fuel hydrant truck comes and fuels at any level. Workers are animated on the ground. hope this helps... Works when underground fuelling is checked.ftp:// See attached.

Thank you, these settings work great.
Title: Re: PMDG 737NGXU
Post by: SN737 on December 30, 2019, 09:54:02 pm
I configured the refueling point to 13.03, -6.11 , 3.5 for the 737 NGXu. The fuel hydrant truck comes and fuels at any level. Workers are animated on the ground. hope this helps... Works when underground fuelling is checked.ftp:// See attached.
Thanks a lot, works great