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Products Support => GSX Support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: airnz515 on July 21, 2019, 03:18:00 am

Title: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: airnz515 on July 21, 2019, 03:18:00 am
Hi,

Is it possible to get the option to disable crew boarding in a future update? Doing many short sectors, it is often unrealistic that the crew disembark and board again after every sector. It also consumes so much time when a turn around is <30 minutes.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Eisbahn on July 21, 2019, 11:03:50 am
Hi,

Is it possible to get the option to disable crew boarding in a future update? Doing many short sectors, it is often unrealistic that the crew disembark and board again after every sector. It also consumes so much time when a turn around is <30 minutes.

Thanks.

Have you tried reading the manual (Page 65). It is now possible in GSX 2.

Eisbahn

Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: thomasfa on July 21, 2019, 02:04:39 pm
Very useful answer! But where can I find the file?
Manual page 65 is useful to developers (Pg. 64). Most of us are not developers.
I also want to disable boarding and deboarding pilot and crew because it does not fit with FS2Crew. The pilots (ie me) are already sitting in the cockpit when i start boarding after T+18 (FS2Crew and Airbus A320/321)

Thomas
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Eisbahn on July 21, 2019, 02:08:50 pm
Very useful answer! But where can I find the file?
Manual page 65 is useful to developers (Pg. 64). Most of us are not developers.
I also want to disable boarding and deboarding pilot and crew because it does not fit with FS2Crew. The pilots (ie me) are already sitting in the cockpit when i start boarding after T+18 (FS2Crew and Airbus A320/321)

Thomas

You must write your own file. Judging by your arrogant reply it is probably far too complicated for you to understand.

Eisbahn
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: DMdoc on July 21, 2019, 08:47:02 pm
Eisbahn: Instead of your reply that it's over someone's head, it would have been much more helpful to hyperlink to an example of what such an XML file looks like, so intermediate users such as myself could use that as a template to create our file the way we want.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Eisbahn on July 22, 2019, 10:59:13 am
Eisbahn: Instead of your reply that it's over someone's head, it would have been much more helpful to hyperlink to an example of what such an XML file looks like, so intermediate users such as myself could use that as a template to create our file the way we want.

Google is your friend and I am not your researcher!

Eisbahn
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: F737NG on July 22, 2019, 12:06:40 pm
Very useful answer! But where can I find the file?
Manual page 65 is useful to developers (Pg. 64). Most of us are not developers.
I also want to disable boarding and deboarding pilot and crew because it does not fit with FS2Crew. The pilots (ie me) are already sitting in the cockpit when i start boarding after T+18 (FS2Crew and Airbus A320/321)

Thomas

You must write your own file. Judging by your arrogant reply it is probably far too complicated for you to understand.

Eisbahn


Oh good, another 'god' of flight sim. 'I know how to do something, but I won't tell you how to do it'.

Why not help your fellow simmer by linking an example file?
Google does not readily show any possible .xml to copy from to create a file that disables crew boarding per the instructions on p.65 of the manual.

Tbh, since this has been a long-standing request, can you provide us with the necessary file or the location of an appropriate .xml to copy from please, Umberto?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: bjratchf on July 22, 2019, 04:46:21 pm
Do we just create an xml file and drop it into the aircraft folder? Not quite sure how we disable crew boarding.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: airnz515 on July 23, 2019, 10:30:11 am
Hi,

Is it possible to get the option to disable crew boarding in a future update? Doing many short sectors, it is often unrealistic that the crew disembark and board again after every sector. It also consumes so much time when a turn around is <30 minutes.

Thanks.

Have you tried reading the manual (Page 65). It is now possible in GSX 2.

Eisbahn



Yes I have, thank you very much, it's very vague. Your arrogance on the other hand...
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: ggerolamo on July 23, 2019, 11:52:18 am
Arrogance is always a sign of awkwardness !
Pretty sure this man himself has no idea how to do it ...  ;)

Nevertheless, I would like to know for myself how to deactivate the crew !
Maybe someone has a tip ?
(Please no answer from you, Eisbahn)
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Beat578 on July 24, 2019, 12:24:35 pm
It is not possible at the moment. Only developers can do it if they include the code into their product.
Umberto told that possibly it will be implemented to add the feature yourself for other aircraft as well, but at the moment you can not do that if you don't have a program to change the variables. 
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: ggerolamo on July 24, 2019, 12:56:16 pm
Okay, too bad you can't change that yourself!
I really don't need any additional pilots if I'm already in the plane ;-)
nevertheless many thanks for the info !!
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Eisbahn on July 24, 2019, 01:46:46 pm
It is not possible at the moment. Only developers can do it if they include the code into their product.
Umberto told that possibly it will be implemented to add the feature yourself for other aircraft as well, but at the moment you can not do that if you don't have a program to change the variables.  

This is not entirely correct. You do not have to be a developer. Anyone can do it themselves if they have a basic knowledge of xml code. You also do not need any special program to write the code.
Notepad is quiet sufficient. I was prepared to share my own code using the GSX L vars until I started being insulted by members on this forum.
Anyone interested in attempting xml code, I suggest they visit the following sites: www.fs2x.com/tutorials.htm, Avsim.net (Textinfo Gauge 4.0 and XML Tutorial).
The FS Developer site also has hundreds of examples to help getting started.
This is my final word on the subject and await further abuse from non-believers.

Eisbahn
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: airnz515 on July 25, 2019, 10:03:05 am
It is not possible at the moment. Only developers can do it if they include the code into their product.
Umberto told that possibly it will be implemented to add the feature yourself for other aircraft as well, but at the moment you can not do that if you don't have a program to change the variables.  

I was prepared to share my own code using the GSX L vars until I started being insulted by members on this forum.


Don't lie. From the very onset you were being extremely arrogant and obviously had no intention of helping anybody out. No use trying the "good guy" act now.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: ggerolamo on July 25, 2019, 10:46:52 am
He's not arrogant, but obviously frustrated and incompetent.
please let us all just ignore this unnecessary guy and his meaningless comments...

Now to the actual topic:
Does anyone have a reasonable idea how to turn off the crew ?


Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: balu on July 25, 2019, 06:51:01 pm
A Workaround

- you open the MCDU2b.xml on \Prepar3D v4\Ecosystem\Aerosoft\Aerosoft A318-A319 Professional\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aerosoft A318-A319 Professional Base\Panel_Fallback\AB_MCDU2 in a editor
- you search this text: <!-- Enter Load Page Pax -->
- you copy this text
            1 (&gt; L:FSDT_GSX_PILOTS_NOT_BOARDING, number)
            1 (&gt; L:FSDT_GSX_CREW_NOT_BOARDING, number)
- you safe the file
- et voila
greatings
Stephan
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: balu on July 25, 2019, 06:53:28 pm
thats only for the aerosoft airbus professional
Sorry
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: ggerolamo on July 25, 2019, 08:01:06 pm
That's a good beginning  ;D
Thx a lot !
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: virtuali on July 26, 2019, 11:04:48 am
Does anyone have a reasonable idea how to turn off the crew ?

It was of course already clearly explained in this very topic. It must be done by the airplane developers. Yes, of course, if you know you can write a gauge, you can do it yourself, but a gauge programming tutorial is really out of the scope of this forum.

The reason why this should be controlled by the aircraft code, it's because many 3rd party airplanes already have an internal handling of the number of pilots so, it wouldn't make any sense to add a separate logic in GSX that you would have to control yourself (an annoying extra step, with no way to be sure it would agree with what the airplane is doing), so the proper approach is to let the airplane controlling it.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: ggerolamo on July 26, 2019, 12:05:24 pm
I think there's been a little misunderstanding:
I don't want to influence the number of pilots and/or crew !
I (and many others) find it disturbing at all that additional pilots get on board...
I am already sitting in the plane !
Please just give us a possibility to prevent the pilots from boarding!

I think even, in the normal case pilots should not get into the cockpit - but only on express wish.
I don't really see any sense behind it, if additional pilots want to crawl into my cockpit.

greetings
ggerolamo
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Beat578 on July 29, 2019, 07:47:51 am
As said by Umberto: Both things are possible.
You can say how many crew you have
AND
you can say if they stay on bord or bord at all.
But as said as well: At the moment only a developper can add that to the airplane. Hopefully at some time it will be possible to store those values inside the aircraft file of GSX as well, for all the planes where the dev's don't add the code, but until then, you have to live with the fact that they board.
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Eisbahn on July 29, 2019, 11:06:20 am
As said by Umberto: Both things are possible.
You can say how many crew you have
AND
you can say if they stay on bord or bord at all.
But as said as well: At the moment only a developper can add that to the airplane. Hopefully at some time it will be possible to store those values inside the aircraft file of GSX as well, for all the planes where the dev's don't add the code, but until then, you have to live with the fact that they board.


Once again you are stretching the truth. As Umberto said in his reply earlier (No. 18):

"Yes, of course, if you know you can write a gauge, you can do it yourself, but a gauge programming tutorial is really out of the scope of this forum."

To prove my point here is a sample of xml code to set the number of crew and passengers:

<Element>
   <Select>
     <Value> (L:Crew)</Value
   <Case Value="1">
   </Case>
   </Select>
</Element>
   

<Mouse>
   <Area Height="70" Width="70" Top="0" Left="0">
      <Click> 116 (>L:FSDT_GSX_NUMPASSENGERS)
             2 (>L:FSDT_GSX_NUMPILOTS)
                  3 (>L:FSDT_GSX_NUMCREW)
        1 (>L:CREW)</Click>
      <Cursor Type="Hand"/>
   </Area>
</Mouse>

This is only an excerpt. You will have to find out yourself how to use it.

Eisbahn
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: fabristunt on September 15, 2019, 02:00:11 am
Hi there, I just bought GSX Level 2 on Simmarket and the crew boarding is still there. Has this feature not been introduced yet or do I have to do something special to remove the crew? I cannot find any info, so I presume it has not been added yet, even thou there are posts from 2018 where it's said to come in an update.

Looking forward to it.

Regards
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Beat578 on September 16, 2019, 01:33:08 pm
At the Moment, I only know of the FSLabs Airbus that has implented the Crew boarding (or not) feature. Mathis Kok at Aerosoft stated in another topig, that more GSX features are not in their scope at the moment (I guess they are very busy finishing the A330 though) so the aerosoft Airbus has it not yet. I don't know about Majestic or Maddog, I don't own these. But there is no way to do it for yourself on planes that do not support it natively. (at least not if your not used in Gauge programming).
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: alpha117 on September 16, 2019, 04:47:13 pm
At the Moment, Only the FSLabs Airbus has implented the Crew boarding (or not) feature.



Incorrect statement, then you say you don't own other aircraft, therefore how can you make this statement....unbelievable
Title: Re: Disable crew boarding.
Post by: Beat578 on September 16, 2019, 05:27:39 pm
At the Moment, Only the FSLabs Airbus has implented the Crew boarding (or not) feature.
Incorrect statement, then you say you don't own other aircraft, therefore how can you make this statement....unbelievable
I staded quite clearly that I don't know about the other because I don't know them. But anyway, i edited my post again to make it clear to everyone what I meant. Feel free to add the planes that you know and that work to the list instead of ranting on people trying to help. That would be more valuable to the topic.