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Developer's Backdoor => GSX Backdoor => Topic started by: mroschk on September 08, 2018, 01:31:25 pm

Title: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: mroschk on September 08, 2018, 01:31:25 pm
...i can configure the Water and Lavatory positions for my default B737, but how can i call this services ?

Matthias
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2018, 08:22:00 pm
You can't. They are planned for a future update.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: stef95 on January 05, 2019, 06:08:16 pm
You can't. They are planned for a future update.

Hello, do you have an idea when it s possible ?

I just update my V1 for V2, and I don't see many things that have changed for the same price ...and this discussion has already 4 months

Thx for your answer
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on January 05, 2019, 06:36:53 pm
I just update my V1 for V2, and I don't see many things that have changed for the same price ...

When GSX Level 2 has been announced, in June 2018, it was always clearly explained that it would have added:

- new SODE-based Replacement jetways worldwide, with an editor to customize them

- visible animated passengers, which was BY FAR the most asked feature we had in years.

So, clearly, GSX Level 2 has fully delivered the two main things it promised to do.

I can only repeat and confirm the water vehicles will arrive at some time, like everything else we promised so far, which *always* arrived, sooner or later. The release notes history speak for itself:

https://www.fsdreamteam.com/couatl_liveupdate_notes.html
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: gibson94 on October 25, 2021, 04:43:04 pm
Hello
We are in 2021 and i still have "coming soon" for water services ?
I'm with P3d V4.5
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: Captain Kevin on October 25, 2021, 06:14:30 pm
Hello
We are in 2021 and i still have "coming soon" for water services ?
I'm with P3d V4.5
Yes, they are working on trying to get GSX working for MSFS before they start adding new features as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on October 27, 2021, 12:58:35 pm
it is how the one and the other defines "soon"

For Virtuali means "soon" maybe 1 or 10 years
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on October 30, 2021, 01:58:50 am
for Virtuali means "soon" maybe 1 or 10 years

You forgot to say OF FREE GSX UPDATES, as the Live Update notes weren't clear enough how wrong you are:

https://www.fsdreamteam.com/couatl_liveupdate_notes.html

As the notes clearly says, we had 5 updates in September, some of them fairly large ( multiliveries in P3D V5 and hundreds of new jetway liveries ), and all of this WHILE:

- We are continuing working on the MSFS version, of course.

- We'll add a new major feature to passengers, that is Walk-in gates, which has been discussed during the past weeks.

AGAIN, AS A FREE UPDATE for P3D
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on October 31, 2021, 06:13:14 pm
I dont remember .. how long is Lavatory Service announced ???
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on December 05, 2021, 01:55:09 pm
I dont remember .. how long is Lavatory Service announced ???

Updates are done depending how important they are and how they affect users.

The most pressing update was, of course, restoring support for multiple-liveries in P3D V5, because that was a feature we lost due to the sim not supporting DX11 anymore so, that feature HAD to get priority, since it's obviously more important to first restore a feature we already had ( users might have bought GSX because of that ), rather than adding a new feature, which clearly nobody would have based its decision to purchase GSX or not.

There's no need to repeat again my last message, which indicates quite clearly:

- What we are working now, in relationship with the whole GSX ( MSFS version )

- What we are working now, in relationship with NEW FREE FEATURES ( walk-in gates without a bus, asked by so many users )
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on January 10, 2022, 11:34:28 pm
...and Towing as example is not requested very very often of soooooooo many users for a sooooooo long time ???
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on January 11, 2022, 11:02:45 am
...and Towing as example is not requested very very often of soooooooo many users for a sooooooo long time ???

I don't think my reply was so difficult to understand:

EVERY addition comes because users asked for it. However, they come in the order WE decide to bring them on, because it's OUR product, OUR design decision, OUR time, OUR risk if it doesn't sell, OUR workload allocation.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on January 12, 2022, 05:34:22 pm
Hello
We are in 2021 and i still have "coming soon" for water services ?
I'm with P3d V4.5

yep...
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: Captain Kevin on January 12, 2022, 06:09:17 pm
yep...
Yes, they are STILL working on trying to get GSX working for MSFS before they start adding new features as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on January 14, 2022, 06:45:18 pm
Towing especially was anounced a way before MSFS
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: Captain Kevin on January 14, 2022, 07:13:18 pm
Towing especially was anounced a way before MSFS
So were a lot of things, but from a development standpoint, it appears to be more effective doing it this way than having to do the same thing twice.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on January 15, 2022, 09:50:46 am
Towing especially was anounced a way before MSFS

And that's PRECISELY why it hasn't come yet. BECAUSE we announced it "way before" MSFS, we assumed we could just focus on GSX updates for the foreseeable future.

But as everybody should have figure it out (well, not "everybody", you seem to have an hard time grasping that concept), the MSFS announcement and the subsequent release threw our plans ( same as EVERY other developer plans) completely off, because almost at the same time MSFS was announced, sales for P3D products went down considerably so, in order to stay in business, we had to:

- Recreate a catalog of products for MSFS. We released 9 sceneries for MSFS in one year.

- Work on adapting GSX to MSFS, which means having the basics right before adding new features. AND redo all the modeling for the objects and animation, so they won't look out of place in MSFS, so this will take some time.

I'll try to make it simpler for you: if we didn't release so many products for MSFS, we would have bankrupted even before having any time to work on anything related to GSX.
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: torsten on March 31, 2022, 09:58:18 pm
nearly years ago...no news?

- no Lavatory
- no Water
- no towing
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on April 01, 2022, 10:16:41 am
nearly years ago...no news?

How convenient you are pointing out with your usual attitude what's missing, and at the same time you seem to forget how RECENTLY we had a major update with a major FREE NEW feature, celebrating 10 years of FREE GSX UPDATES.

Without even mentioning how wrong you are saying "nearly years ago...no news", when everybody can see my last post to you in this very thread was in January 2022 so no, it's not "one year" you don't have any news.

What makes you think anything changed in the last 2 months ? Have you see GSX for MSFS being released ? So, why keep asking, when my previous post you are replying to seemed to be QUITE CLEAR ?
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: alexvs on January 16, 2023, 07:39:00 pm
OK, it's 2023. GSX PRO for FS2020 is alive and kicking. The ultimate question, when are water and lavatory planned for GSX2?
Title: Re: Lavatory / Water service
Post by: virtuali on January 18, 2023, 09:57:46 am
OK, it's 2023. GSX PRO for FS2020 is alive and kicking. The ultimate question, when are water and lavatory planned for GSX2?

Updates are not made depending how long ago they were announced, but according to what users ask. According to a recent survey on GSX creators channel on Discord, the most requested feature right now is Remote Deicing, and that's what we are working on right now.