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Products Support => Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood FSX/P3D => Topic started by: alencp20 on February 23, 2018, 11:42:09 pm

Title: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 23, 2018, 11:42:09 pm
I have this strange problem with kfll only, if I start the flight there every thing is ok all texture load everything is perfect , but if I fly from some airports to kfll,almost before landing I'm taking about maybe 20 feet from the runway the textures start disappearing or mixing with the default one, before that I can see the texture of the airport just right. I say some airports because doesn't happen when I fly within some regions it only happen if I fly from the eastern Caribbean ( I far as know) TNCM, TJSJ etc, if I fly from any American airport  doesn't happen . It only happen on this airport if I fly from the eastern Caribbean to any other add on airport doesn't happen so its clearly an kfll problem, before start giving me suggestion let me say

fsdt kfll is the only kfll I had ever install

there is not duplicate afcadt I run world of ai and I make sure I install them manually , just the wowoffai bgl file which include the airplane and flight plan

I have no region install nor orbx , nor mesh nothing like that, just pay add on airports that set .

there is not OOm problem no running out of memory king of thing, how do I know , well I can make multiple leg flight without droping below 40 fps in any moment Im taking about maybe 6 airport straight in one flight KTPA flytampa, ImagiSim Katl , FSDT KORD, CYUL flytampa, back the other way (it just an example ) with the aerosoft airbus it just amazing the performance


not problem with the coult..., it cache  every airport right away,


I DO NOT MODIFY THE CFG FILE, but just in case i rebuild it once in a while to be sure, proper fsx maintenance I guess like clearing scenery indexes in program data

no problem in any other fsdt airport at the moment

I really think is kfll problem , may be the scenery mipmap not loading beyond their lowest , I don't know

any suggestions
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on February 24, 2018, 01:01:24 am
, but if I fly from some airports to kfll,almost before landing I'm taking about maybe 20 feet from the runway the textures start disappearing or mixing with the default one, before that I can see the texture of the airport just right.

Please make a screenshot, because it's difficult to say from this description what the issue is.
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 24, 2018, 02:12:29 pm
thanks for the replay, I making a flight right now from tjsj to kfll to take some pictures

by the way kfll work perfect on fs9 thats my go to simulator and always will be no problem there fs9 in install in my other gaming computer
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 24, 2018, 05:01:21 pm
1 picture every thing is normal all texture are ok

2 picture every thing start going south about 50 to 20 feet



I already know Im going to get this , when the aerosoft airbus doesn't start the landing checklist, so it got me thinking it has to be related to airport altitude or some kind

the airbus is not getting that information
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 25, 2018, 02:21:59 pm
Hey umberto did u looked at the pictures
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on February 26, 2018, 01:52:19 pm
Hey umberto did u looked at the pictures

You posted them on Saturday so yes, I did had a look today. You don't *always* work over the week-ends, do you ?

In any case, your screenshot clearly show you have a conflict caused by another scenery, most likely an elevation issue or an AFCAD conflict.

What other sceneries you have, something from Orbx maybe ?
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 26, 2018, 04:29:15 pm
no mesh install just the airport ,like i say in the begining of the post, no mesh , no orbx, it only happen at this airport
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 26, 2018, 04:37:20 pm
and yes I have other airport but the closes one to the area is flytampa Tampa no other airport close by ; Im planing in getting Orlando from taxi2gate soon  and Miami from latin vfr but no until resolve this situation for the same reason you ask

remember it only happen if I flight from the Eastern Caribbean like tncm or tjsj son far as i know
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on February 26, 2018, 09:29:57 pm
Please don't assume it's the scenery has a problem, just because "it's the only airport that does that". Conflicts don't affect all sceneries just the same, that doesn't mean the affected scenery has a problem, simply that you don't have other offending files that affect your other airports.

And, it's not assumed the conflicting scenery must be a mesh, or a nearby airport. It can be anything. What else you installed, not necessarily from OrbX ? Do you have an AI traffic product ?
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 27, 2018, 02:26:07 pm
I have world of Ai planes which I install manually just the airplane, and the bgl with the flight plan,
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on February 28, 2018, 08:16:37 am
I have world of Ai planes which I install manually just the airplane, and the bgl with the flight plan,

What other sceneries, not necessarily from OrbX, and not necessarily close to the airport you have ? Especially large global scenery. Also, check your Mesh Complexity and resolution setting. Complexity must be at 100%, and resolution should be at 5 meters, but no higher.
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 28, 2018, 02:40:43 pm
I have my mesh resolution at 10 m , and yes I try it with 5 and not more than 5 and still happen when flying from the eastern Caribbean,like I said before no mesh, no global scenery install just pay addon airports

this glitch doesn't happen all the time  , I hope you don't take this the wrong way but I'm feeling like I'm repeating my self here, that why at the begging of the post I clear specify what was happening

could be a problem with the AFCAD OF THIS AIRPORT "ALTITUDE" PROBLEM
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on February 28, 2018, 02:45:14 pm
the airports that I have in the eastern caribbean are Latinvfr TJSJ, FlyTampa Tncm the complete package which include 3 airports ,Taxi2gate TFFR , and Taxi2GAte TVSV
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 01, 2018, 01:00:35 am
I finish looking in the forum and there are many cases this happening no only on KFLL, but on one or more of your scenery, one is PHNL, and the other one was PHOG , both of those
scenery symptoms it related to what I m experiencing , and both of them required a fix by

simbio
Beta tester
Full Member
FSDreamTeam developer

with some blg files, which indeed fix the problem

then I find this post date back to 2011 related to KFLL (FSDreamTeam forum > Products Support > Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood FSX/P3D > Texture Bleed)
and I far as a know these isued hasn't be resolve

the same dude suggested some files to be applied, but the problems still persist, as you can see I'm not the only one with this issues


Maybe is time for you and your development team to take a close it look at kfll. bgl file to see what is going on in there ,
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 01, 2018, 08:07:10 pm
any suggestions since you move my post  from the general to here, I mean you took the time to move the post ,what no make a suggestion or update of the situation I'm having
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: Dave_YVR on March 01, 2018, 11:26:17 pm
At KFLL when you open GSX and select Customize Airport properties, what airport file does it show as being active?
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on March 02, 2018, 09:43:32 am
any suggestions since you move my post  from the general to here, I mean you took the time to move the post ,what no make a suggestion or update of the situation I'm having

Have you installed the files posted in thread you were referring to, which was the reason why I moved the thread in the first place ? That's the only possible solution we can think of, and should be required only when using some 3rd party mesh scenery.
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 02, 2018, 03:12:11 pm
At KFLL when you open GSX and select Customize Airport properties, what airport file does it show as being active?

I don't have GSX
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on March 03, 2018, 01:18:17 pm
I don't have GSX

Best if you install it. It's free to use at all our airports so, just consider it as an additional download.
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 04, 2018, 12:01:28 am
I will considered , I was thinking about it , but not yet, Im afraid is going to mess something up, and my sim is running very stable right now, I want to resolve this situation with kfll first

 I'm glad you decided that all your future projects will be for p3d v4 , Im planing in getting it in the near future , the time for 64bit  is here
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 05, 2018, 03:54:04 pm
those files are date back to 2011 is 2018 , I installed the latest KFLL file from your website, I since I don't have any 3d party mesh , and those file didn't resolved anything to any body on that post, and didn't see any conclusion on that post, but what did resolve back in PHNL was making an adjustment to the default airport altitude to mash exactly the altitude of the addon KFLL,

you even question this fix , because it wasn't suppose to work , but that this for some people
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 05, 2018, 03:55:34 pm
"PHNL"
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 05, 2018, 04:02:58 pm
it is the same problem that I'm having ,if you flight close by nothing happens ,  in phnl was trigger if you flight from the main land across the ocean long flights, in my case if I flight from the Caribbean which include ocean and time 2.5 hours flights .Something is up with these scenery's .
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: alencp20 on March 05, 2018, 04:16:21 pm
May be if all work together in trying to fix these problem you can prevent issues like these in the future , don't you want to know what is causing this texture bleeding in the first place in some of your scenery's ? I can only provide you with my analysis of the situation that I'm having , but the program is your to modify and check and test( but what I mean by test and recreate scenery ,I don't mean to fast forward through the flight, I mean complete the 2.5 hour flight, because if I fast forward too, the scenery loads just fine )

I'm intrigue about the whole situation, I want to find out what is causing it
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: Dave_YVR on March 06, 2018, 06:21:11 pm
 So you are saying that if you just load into FLL that it displays correctly?
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on March 07, 2018, 01:17:46 pm
those files are date back to 2011 is 2018

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Those files are optional, which is why they are not included in the installer. I cannot replicate the problem either without the files or with them, that's why they are optional in the first place.

I'm sorry, but the only explanation I have, you have some kind of unknown conflict that is not fixed by the optional files. And please, restrain yourself about useless comments which are not helping anyone.

The recent patch of KIAH, which fixes some issues with flickering when using non-standard cameras, which fixes the problem in the PROPER WAY (by making a native P3D ground scenery), clearly proves we always fix all problems, when they do exist and can be replicated.-
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: sticky1202 on March 14, 2018, 04:13:22 pm
I have something similar happening in P3Dv4. Could it have something to do with editing the AFCAD? I use ADE to edit, and I noticed the scenery file was made with AFX.  ???

I just started P3Dv4, starting at FLL, and everything appears fine. The previous display issues happened when I was arriving from another (different) airport.

Jim
Title: Re: kfll bleeding texture fsx steam edition
Post by: virtuali on March 16, 2018, 11:18:52 am
The previous display issues happened when I was arriving from another (different) airport.

Although not normally required, this should be fixed by the altitude correction file posted in the forum:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,3843.msg42913.html#msg42913