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Products Support => Las Vegas FSX/P3D => Topic started by: Captjf on May 31, 2017, 07:46:25 am
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I just updated KLAS and was wondering if a new AFCAD was going to be released since terminal 3 has no parking codes.
Also I can't seem to get sode to work, whenever I select operate jetway, I get a "SODE unavailable - Jetway will not animate" message.
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I just took a look at the AFCAD in ADE, and it's a hot mess. I'm going to try to rework it, but it's gonna take me a little time.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/thecohortsska/Capture_1.jpg (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/thecohortsska/Capture_1.jpg)
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Please don't do that, we'll fix it of course...there must be a corrupted file somewhere on the server.
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Please don't do that, we'll fix it of course...there must be a corrupted file somewhere on the server.
I will rework it for my own use of course. No worries though, I'm very well versed in the use of ADE ;) .
What it looks like happened is when the AFCAD was compiled, it corrupted the parking lines. The nodes are all off.
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What it looks like happened is when the AFCAD was compiled, it corrupted the parking lines. The nodes are all off.
The fixed file is already online now, so you can get it by running the Live Updater from the desktop shortcut. And it contains airline codes for Terminal 3, of course.
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Also I can't seem to get sode to work, whenever I select operate jetway, I get a "SODE unavailable - Jetway will not animate" message.
KLAS requires GSX to use both SODE jetways and docking systems, so you must install it, otherwise you'll see only static jetways and not docking systems.
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Also I can't seem to get sode to work, whenever I select operate jetway, I get a "SODE unavailable - Jetway will not animate" message.
KLAS requires GSX to use both SODE jetways and docking systems, so you must install it, otherwise you'll see only static jetways and not docking systems.
Hi Umberto
I've just run the updater but the new Afcad hasn't downloaded. Any ideas?
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I've just run the updater but the new Afcad hasn't downloaded. Any ideas?
Are you sure, you mean you still have the corrupted one ? Try to remove it, and run the Updater again.
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Also I can't seem to get sode to work, whenever I select operate jetway, I get a "SODE unavailable - Jetway will not animate" message.
KLAS requires GSX to use both SODE jetways and docking systems, so you must install it, otherwise you'll see only static jetways and not docking systems.
I have GSX installed and its still not working
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Are you sure, you mean you still have the corrupted one ? Try to remove it, and run the Updater again.
No Joy for the new AFCAD here either. I removed the old one, and the update shows it downloading the AFCAD, but it's still corrupted.
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No Joy for the new AFCAD here either. I removed the old one, and the update shows it downloading the AFCAD, but it's still corrupted.
I'm sorry, but I did exactly the same, and it's downloading the fixed file.
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I just downloaded the latest installer of GSX and reinstalled GSX and I am still getting the same message "SODE Unavailable" from gsx
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I just downloaded the latest installer of GSX and reinstalled GSX and I am still getting the same message "SODE Unavailable" from gsx
Have you registered SODE in the simulator, when its dialog asking to do so appeared during the installation ?
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I haven't seen a dialog about SODE, how do I go and register SODE?
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I haven't seen a dialog about SODE, how do I go and register SODE?
You are supposed to see the GSX installer pausing for a while, with the SODE platform manager asking to register. If if hasn't happened, then you must have some problem with SODE, which it's usually fixed by Uninstalling every version of it from the Windows Control Panel, then reinstalling GSX, which will install the latest one.
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I can't find any versions of SODE on my computer and I just did a couple fresh reinstalls and I see the SODE program open for a split second and then it closes
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After trying to reinstall GSX again, I found the installer file for SODEv1.5 while GSX was installing and while the GSX installer still couldn't open the SODE dialog, I was able to install SODE after GSX finished manually.
Everything works nows :)
Thanks!
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I am having the same problem. I installed the latest GSX and KLAS installer, but the gate will not operate and the message "SODE not available". I don't see SODE in my add on menu bar as well. I did delete SimObjects in my control panel and then installed the latest GSX. Is it possible I am missing a step? Should I reinstall SODE 1.4.2 from their website?
Cfoley
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Similar issue to the above. I installed the update and the jetways worked fine, but after running the live update due to missing vehicles my jetways at KLAS only broke. KCLT, KMEM, and KIAH all work fine.
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Should I reinstall SODE 1.4.2 from their website?
I'll repeat it again: the last version of SODE is 1.5.0, and it's INCLUDED with GSX. There's no way you'll be ever able to use either GSX or KLAX with any version older than that.
Which is why, the GSX installer will force you to Uninstall any 1.4.x version before continuing
So, again, do what the installer says, and Uninstall any and every SODE version older than 1.5.0, and let GSX install the 1.5.0 which is included in the Installer.
I can see the SODE website has been updated with the 1.5.0 download so, hopefully, this would ease the confusion...
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Similar issue to the above. I installed the update and the jetways worked fine, but after running the live update due to missing vehicles my jetways at KLAS only broke. KCLT, KMEM, and KIAH all work fine.
After a bit of additional detective work, it seems that this has to do with where aircraft spawn when I select a gate. If I slew forward all the gates I've tested seem to work fine.
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After a bit of additional detective work, it seems that this has to do with where aircraft spawn when I select a gate. If I slew forward all the gates I've tested seem to work fine.
I'm not sure I understand you.
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After a bit of additional detective work, it seems that this has to do with where aircraft spawn when I select a gate. If I slew forward all the gates I've tested seem to work fine.
I'm not sure I understand you.
If I select a parking spot at KLAS through the go to airport menu, the planes I've tested end up spawning too far back to activate the jetway, so GSX just throws a "no jetway available at this parking" warning. If I slew my plane forward, however, the jetway will dock. A lot of parking at the D/C concourses seem to have this problem.
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Despite having the lastest GSX full installer downloaded and any old SODE files deleted from my programs, SODE will still not animate at KLAS gates.
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If I slew my plane forward, however, the jetway will dock. A lot of parking at the D/C concourses seem to have this problem.
Which is why, the latest GSX has a new feature that allows you to adjust the parking position and the stopping position, without having to touch the scenery AFCAD.
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Umberto -
I've also had this "SODE unavailable, jetways will not animate" problem wtih KLAS after the scenery update to v2.
(I'm running Win7/P3Dv3.4, and have it installed over Orbx FTX NA SCA, with Holger's latest SCA compatibility patch. I have FB KSFO HD installed also, and the SODE gates work fine there). The new v2 KLAS looks great, and I have no elevation issues or floating gates. But when I try to activate jetways in GSX, I get the message. Have tried several different gates with same result. I confirmed via control panel that SODE is installed, have rerun the GSX v2.00.2 installer, confirmed that SODE is registered in all my products, then run Live Update, which apparently downloaded a new AFCAD (on relaunch of P3Dv3 got scenery rebuild message and GSX cache rebuild message). Other GSX functions appear normal. Since SODE gates work at KSFO HD, assume problem is specific to KLAS. Suggestions on what to try ?
Chuck
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Since SODE gates work at KSFO HD, assume problem is specific to KLAS. Suggestions on what to try ?
I'm sorry, but it's not possible that you would get a message about SODE being unavailable at KLAS, but would work on KSFO HD. Unless, for some reason, SODE worked on the first launch at KSFO, then quit for some reason, then you went to KLAS with no SODE loaded anymore. But this doesn't have anything to do with the scenery.
Try to start the sim, go to KLAS first, and see if you have the SODE menu there and if it works.
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Tried launching P3Dv3.4 twice. First launch set up at KLAS. SODE gates inop, as reported above.
Then quit P3Dv3.4 entirely and re-launched the sim. Set up same airplane, this time at a KSFO HD gate. Here the SODE gates work as expected.
Is it possible there is something different my KLAS scenery install that is making SODE unresponsive ?
Should mention that my P3Dv3.4 showe no Add-ons\SODE submenu when at either airport. Should there be one showing ? Is that a clue ? I think I recall seeing a SODE menu in my FSX airports.
Both airports are installed on top of an Orbx FTX region. KSFO HD is on FTX NA NCA and KLAS is on FTX NA SCA.
One difference is that KLAS has Holger's CVX_FTX-SCA_FSDT-KLAS_compatability.BGL installed, while KSFO HD has no such mod.
Chuck
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Should mention that my P3Dv3.4 showe no Add-ons\SODE submenu when at either airport. Should there be one showing ? Is that a clue ? I think I recall seeing a SODE menu in my FSX airports.
That's not normal. You are supposed to have a SODE menu under the "Addons" menu, with options to check if it's working, restart it, etc.
One difference is that KLAS has Holger's CVX_FTX-SCA_FSDT-KLAS_compatability.BGL installed, while KSFO HD has no such mod.
Are you sure GSX is reading the proper KLAS AFCAD, which is the one the comes in its folder ? You can check which AFCAD GSX is using in the parking customization page.
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Umberto - My GSX Customization page says it is pointed to this AFCAD:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\FsDreamTeam\KLAS\scenery\AP_KLAS2.BGL
Does anything look amiss ?
I've attached a .jpg screenshot snip showing the rest of my KLAS scenery folder contents.
Not understanding why I'm not seeing the SODE menu in P3Dv3.4. Is that worrisome ?
I do have a C:\Program Files (x86)\12bPilot\SODE\P3Dv3 folder.
How and where does P3Dv3 normally call SODE ? Does a .dll or .exe create the SODE add-ons menu ?
Could there be missing entry in one of my .xml files ?
Chuck
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Not understanding why I'm not seeing the SODE menu in P3Dv3.4. Is that worrisome ?
Yes, that seems to indicate SODE hasn't been loaded in the sim, which is why you don't have jetways working at KLAS. I don't understand how it's possible you said that SODE jetways works at KSFO HD because, if there's no SODE menu, it means SODE is not loaded, so it won't work anywhere.
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Not understanding why I'm not seeing the SODE menu in P3Dv3.4. Is that worrisome ?
Yes, that seems to indicate SODE hasn't been loaded in the sim, which is why you don't have jetways working at KLAS. I don't understand how it's possible you said that SODE jetways works at KSFO HD because, if there's no SODE menu, it means SODE is not loaded, so it won't work anywhere.
Umberto - Just tried uninstalling SODE from the windows control panel, then reinstalling the latest GSX (full installer) and registered SODE in FSX, P3Dv3, and P3Dv4. To be sure I had most recent changes, then also ran LiveUpdater. I see a SODE add-on menu item in FSX and P3Dv4, but still don't see one in P3Dv3. (In P3Dv3, SODE gates work nonetheless at FB KSFO HD, but not at FSDT KLASv2).
So what might be preventing the SODE menu from appearing in P3Dv3 ? I expected that the complete GSX/SODE reinstall would fixed it.
Can I verify how SODE should be getting launched in P3Dv3 ? (My FSX SODE works, and the AppData dll.xml has lines calling SODE, as I expected. My P3Dv4 SODE also works, but I don't see the corresponding lines in either AppData or Program Data dll.xmls, so I assume you must have GSX launch it some other way.) Where should I be checking in P3Dv3 ?
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I see a SODE add-on menu item in FSX and P3Dv4, but still don't see one in P3Dv3. (In P3Dv3, SODE gates work nonetheless at FB KSFO HD, but not at FSDT KLASv2).
I'm sorry but, this simply CANNOT happen. If you don't have the SODE menu on the sim, it won't just work. It's not possible it would work only at some airports.
Unless, what is really happening, is the SODE menu is working at the first start, when you try it at KSFO HD. Then it crashes, so the menu disappears, you then go to KLAS, notice it doesn't work, so you believe is not working at KLAS only.
So what might be preventing the SODE menu from appearing in P3Dv3 ? I expected that the complete GSX/SODE reinstall would fixed it.
Do you use the LATEST Hotfix in P3D V3, which is 3.4.23 ? There were some bugs in the previous 3.x versions, where addons loaded using the new add-on.xml method didn't work, but they are fixed in the latest hotfix.
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Umberto - Appreciate your patience and help on this !
I'm running the P3D v3.422.19868 client - which is the current version on the P3D web site and forums say includes the latest hotfix. (I'm running v3.2 content and scenery from my original install - don't expect it makes any difference).
My P3D boots to the scenario setup manager. My default is the stock P3D Piper cub. Launched de-novo at N87, a stock P3D airport (outside my Orbx regions) and from the start I get a GSX menu, but not a SODE add-on menu. Yet if I repeat the experiment in FSX or P3Dv4, the SODE menu is there.
Is SODE supposed to be launched by P3Dv3 separately, or does GSX do it ? Would it make sense to launch SODE independently ? For example I notice that my FSX app data dll.xml file includes the lines
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>SODE Animation Module</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\12bPilot\SODE\SimObjectAnimationModule.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
Would this possibly work in P3D ?
Chuck
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Umberto - I compared my P3Dv4 installation where SODE menu appears and SODE works with my P3Dv3 installation where it doesn't.
- In the P3D v4 options\addons user menu, both FSDreamTeam Addon Manger and SODE appear and have check boxes.
- In my P3D v3 optons\addons menu, only FSDreamTeam Addon Manager appears and is checked. No SODE is registered as an add on apparently.
Looking at my P3Dv4 C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\ add-ons.cfg , the FSDreamTeam Addon Manager is Package.0, and SODE is Package.1.
In the corresponding P3Dv3 add-ons cfg, only the Package.0 FSDreamTeam Addon Manager appears. No Package.1 for SODE. Is this normal ?
Does it indicate that SODE is not being properly registered in my v3 sim by the GSX installer (even though I've done the uninstall and reinstall twice ?)
Chuck
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Does it indicate that SODE is not being properly registered in my v3 sim by the GSX installer (even though I've done the uninstall and reinstall twice ?)
The GSX installers is not supposed to register *anything*. The GSX installer just *starts* the SODE installer but then, when the "Platform Manager" window appears, you are supposed to register all the supported sim, exactly as if you would do if you just installed SODE manually.
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From control panel, I deleted GSX from all three of my simulators, leaving Addon Manage and Couatl. Launched each simulator, and confirmed in addons pulldown that GSX menu was absent, but couatl and live update remained. In FSX and P3Dv4 SODE v1.5.3 menu also appeared since they had been previously successfully registered and they tested ok. In P3Dv3 - the problem child - SODE v1.53 menu was not present, as expected.
So then ran GSX full installer v2.0.0.2 in all three sims. It did the basic install, the MS VC++ install, and then as you described passed control to SODE platform manager 1.5.3. As expected the tabs showed FSX and P3Dv4 SODE already registered and active, and as I expected the v3 tab showed P3Dv3 SODE as not registered. So I pushed the register button, and the Platform Manager reported SODE as now registered and active in P3Dv3. So I expected it might now appear as a P3Dv3 addon. However after finishing the GSX install, I launched P3Dv3, and discovered that SODE had not appeared in the options\addons list, and the SODE menu was still missing in the pull down addons menu, though GSX had now reappeared alongside couatl and couatl live update. Testing FSX and P3Dv4 simulators, SODE remained in the addons menu and the GSX menus had appeared, as expected.
So it is clear that in P3Dv3, even though the SODE platform manager registers SODE and shows it as active (does it somehow test it ?) the SODE activation isn't being picked up by my P3Dv3. I recall reading somewhere that addon package installation works differently in P3Dv3 and v4; that v4 addon packages can be "dropped in" and are recognized automatically, whereas in v3, the third party installer must have some specific code to do it. Could this difference be somehow related to my SODE package installation problem ?
Chuck
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So it is clear that in P3Dv3, even though the SODE platform manager registers SODE and shows it as active (does it somehow test it ?) the SODE activation isn't being picked up by my P3Dv3.
One explanation might be you have an outdated P3D V3. The add-on package method works reliably only with the latest 3.4.23 Hotfix.
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Umberto - Rechecked the P3D web site for hotfix updates; the last one for V3.4 - Hotfix 3- was in February:
(see announcement http://www.prepar3d.com/2017/02/)
"The Prepar3D team is excited to announce the third Hotfix update to Prepar3 v3.4 (3.4.22.19868). It can be downloaded immediately from the Purchased Downloads section of the website....For those that are interested in updating, only the Client installer is required for Prepar3D v3.4 Hotfix 3. The Content, Scenery, and SDK installers are optional".
And v3.4.22.19868 is the latest and only version of the P3Dv3 client available in the purchased downloads section.
I downloaded and installed it some weeks ago. The latest Microsooft .NE Framework v4.7 is also installed.
So my GSX SODE addin install problems are happening with v3.4 Hotfix 3 (aka 3.4.22.19868).
Does GSX install the SODE addin package in V3 via the V4 drop-in method, or is there an imbedded P3D SDK command line to do it ?
Chuck
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Noticed some other posts saying their GSX SODE works in FSX and P3Dv4, but not in v3.
My problem also.
So attaching a zip documenting my configuration (GSX 2.0.02 full install with P3Dv3.4 hotfix3)
Three .jpg screen shots showing:
- P3D addon GSX menu present, but no SODE in-game text menu.
- SODE Platform Manager tab shows SODE registered and active in P3Dv3
- P3Dv3.4 Add-ons menu shows FSDreamTeam Addon Manger and other scenery enabled, but SODE is missing.
Five SODE related addon files:
C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 add-ons.cfg, dll..xml and simobjects.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\12bPilot\SODE\P3Dv3\add-on.xml
C:\Users\coman\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Add-ons\FsDreamTeam Addon Manager\add-on.xml
Hoping your highly experienced eyes can find what is amiss.
Many thanks.
Chuck
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I'm also still trying to get the Jetways to work at KLAS. Works at other airports, and SODE is installed and working. SODE option is seen under Addons Menu, KMEM works perfectly.
Regards,
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Thanks Portnav. Good to know. I don't have KMEM on my system. Only my KLAS v2 has SODE gates.
BTW are you referring to a P3Dv3 or v4 installation ? If v3, have you also installed the latest GSX ? If yes, was your FSDT KMEM before or after the new GSX ?
Chuck
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Thanks Portnav. Good to know. I don't have KMEM on my system. Only my KLAS v2 has SODE gates.
BTW are you referring to a P3Dv3 or v4 installation ? If v3, have you also installed the latest GSX ? If yes, was your FSDT KMEM before or after the new GSX ?
Chuck
Sorry Chuck, I'm using FSX:SE, but only started having this problem after I upgraded with the new Addon Manager and upgraded airport scenery.
Regards,
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My problem with SODE main module not launching in P3D is solved. Jeffrey Stahli - the SODE developer - discovered the problem: At some point I'd edited ProgramData add-ons.cfg and not resaved it as a UTF-8 file.
(I'd known that P3Dv3&4 .cfg and .xml files need to be UTF-8, but assumed if I opened them with Notepad they'd be saved in same format. Not necessarily - important to do a save as and always check the file format in the Notepad pulldown.)
Opening my ProgramData add-ons.cfg and resaving it as UTF-8 fixed problem, so now SODE appears in P3Dv3 addons menu, the options\addons menu, and my SODE gates work.
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My problem with SODE main module not launching in P3D is solved. Jeffrey Stahli - the SODE developer - discovered the problem: At some point I'd edited ProgramData add-ons.cfg and not resaved it as a UTF-8 file.
That's good to know. Normally, there's no need to edit the add-on.cfg file, and a proper P3D product will not touch it but, instead, it will call Prepar3d.exe from the command line, to add/remove its own sections while installing or uninstalling.
If you look at the P3D SDK, in the "Add-on packages" documentation, it explains how to start Prepar3D.exe from the command line, and if you take time to read the documentation, you'll find it's even easier to add/remove addons this way, rather than edit the add-ons.cfg file directly, because you won't have to worry about encoding or numbering the sections in the correct order, etc.