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Title: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: DONKEYS on February 24, 2017, 12:10:03 am
For some reason when on approach into klax from another region, in this case KSFO, the papi lights for rwys 24l/r are not lighting up. The physical lights are there, but not working. Now, if I spawn into KLAX initially, the lights are visible and working. Tried testing in different times and weather conditions.

Using P3D V3.4, ORBX Global and SoCal, PMDG 737, AS2016, Envtex to name a few.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on February 26, 2017, 06:50:09 pm
Do they work if you select "Restart Couatl" from the Couatl Settings menu just before before landing ?
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: DONKEYS on February 27, 2017, 06:50:34 am
I will have to try that and report back.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: DONKEYS on March 03, 2017, 08:22:13 pm
Restarting Couatl does not fix the problem.

Here's a screenshot:



Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Ben0681 on March 23, 2017, 11:18:26 am
With me the papis also not correct.
06L / R 07L / R go the pap only when I restart couatl.
If I have done that, the lights but have disappeared on the other side, speak at the 24L / R completely crazy.
I guess it's a bug under P3D V3.
Have the latest version.
At other Addon airports I have no problems, just here in Los Angeles.
https://abload.de/img/2017-3-23_11-17-33-3xfu22.jpeg (https://abload.de/img/2017-3-23_11-17-33-3xfu22.jpeg)
https://abload.de/img/2017-3-23_11-18-6-63weuag.jpeg (https://abload.de/img/2017-3-23_11-18-6-63weuag.jpeg)
Is there perhaps a fix?
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on March 24, 2017, 04:35:10 pm
Please do not post twice on the forum, when you have already been replied to by email.  As I've said by email and here too, please confirm if the problem is fixed if you Restart Couatl before landing.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Ben0681 on March 24, 2017, 08:53:15 pm
Yes it is fixed.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Dave_YVR on March 25, 2017, 01:05:41 am
 Looking on airnav.com for LAX, it shows all runways as having PAPI's
https://www.airnav.com/airport/KLAX (https://www.airnav.com/airport/KLAX)
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Ben0681 on March 25, 2017, 08:05:16 pm
Yet the addon buggy is in P3D!
For the money I would have expected more.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on March 27, 2017, 10:09:11 pm
Yet the addon buggy is in P3D!

Are you saying the FSX version doesn't have this issue ?
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on March 27, 2017, 10:11:03 pm
Looking on airnav.com for LAX, it shows all runways as having PAPI's

And so the scenery. This is not the issue that has been reported. The issue is that, according to the report, the PAPI ARE present when starting at KLAX, but they don't when landing on it.

We'll surely have a look at it as soon as possible.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Ben0681 on April 03, 2017, 02:10:48 pm
Is a refund possible Sir?
Thank you
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on April 04, 2017, 09:41:48 am
Is a refund possible Sir?

All our products are of course available in Trial version, so no refunds are possible and, as I've said, we'll look at it as soon as possible. The issue is, we are in the middle of a very large update of all our support software AND the whole server too, that we can't just publish a small fix like this now, but it will appear together with all the other udpates.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: p3dx3 on April 23, 2017, 09:41:15 am
papis also missing in fsx steam not just p3d. looking forward to a fix when possible. thank you
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: G.Bosak on August 17, 2017, 08:32:47 pm
Hi,

sadly still no PAPI lights (P3Dv3 and P3Dv4) screenshot attached

RUNWAY: 25R and 25L

all the other PAPI lights seem to work as they should, at least via slew mode, i checked them all.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: divinglyc on September 18, 2017, 02:50:40 pm
Me neither...
Just bought KLAX and found no Papi for RWY 25L....
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on September 18, 2017, 03:48:15 pm
As I've said in several message in this same thread, please confirm if the problem is fixed if you Restart Couatl before landing.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: divinglyc on September 19, 2017, 11:29:26 am
As I've said in several message in this same thread, please confirm if the problem is fixed if you Restart Couatl before landing.

Thank you so much! I will try later.  :)
But should we restart Couatl every time before we land? And how far away from the airport should we do this?
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2017, 05:28:52 pm
But should we restart Couatl every time before we land?

The reason of the question wasn't to indicate how you are supposed to do (although you can do that, waiting for a better fix), but just to confirm this is indeed the issue, so we can investigate it.

But yes, as a temporary solution, if this fixes the problem, you can try restarting Couatl. Do as soon the airport scenery is loaded (you'll see some pause, so it's easy to notice)
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: divinglyc on September 21, 2017, 06:41:33 pm
But should we restart Couatl every time before we land?

The reason of the question wasn't to indicate how you are supposed to do (although you can do that, waiting for a better fix), but just to confirm this is indeed the issue, so we can investigate it.

But yes, as a temporary solution, if this fixes the problem, you can try restarting Couatl. Do as soon the airport scenery is loaded (you'll see some pause, so it's easy to notice)

Hi! Thanks for your reply. I tried... yet, still no PAPI.. This evening, I landed 25R, and I restarted Couatl. There was no PAPI as shown in my pic. Besides, it's too bright in the airport.
However, there is no light casting on my aircraft(as my pic.)  And the color of the ground looks a little strange?? Any solution? THanks!
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on September 23, 2017, 10:34:52 am
i! Thanks for your reply. I tried... yet, still no PAPI.. This evening, I landed 25R, and I restarted Couatl. There was no PAPI as shown in my pic

This thread title was about the PAPI supposedly missing on runways 24R/L, which doesn't happen here, it works just fine. You are now referring to the runway 25, but that's how the scenery is made, it's not a problem. The information we have is entirely clear, some charts depicts PAPIs only on the 24s, some in both 24 and 25, some just on the 25s.

We'll try to get better information and eventually release a fix but, if you see PAPIs on the 24s and not on the 25s, that's exactly how the scenery is supposed to look like.

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Besides, it's too bright in the airport.

Your screenshot doesn't look anything like the FSDT KLAX is supposed to look like. Have you installed other sceneries in the area ? Something from OrbX maybe ? Also, have you changed the sim default HDR settings ( Brightness, Bloom and Saturation, which should be 1.10, 1.00 and 0.80 )

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However, there is no light casting on my aircraft(as my pic.)  And the color of the ground looks a little strange??

As you can see from the attached screenshot, the scenery colors are correct, and the airplane cast light on it normally so, the problem is likely caused by another scenery in conflict and/or the HDR settings changed from default.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: divinglyc on September 23, 2017, 03:35:22 pm
Thanks for reply. I use PTA, and I have changed my PTA setting. The bluish and over-bright texture has become normal. But still, the light of the airport cannot cast on my planes at all. Is it normal??
I have set the HDR to default setting.

Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: Dave_YVR on September 23, 2017, 05:59:14 pm
 What sim are you using? Dynamic lighting wasn't introduced until V4.
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: divinglyc on September 24, 2017, 02:25:44 pm
What sim are you using? Dynamic lighting wasn't introduced until V4.

Thanks! I use P3D v4.
I am not talking about the light from the plane...
I mean there is no light casting on the fuselage of the airplane... It's totally black...
Title: Re: No PAPI lights KLAX 24L/R
Post by: virtuali on September 25, 2017, 08:59:47 am
. But still, the light of the airport cannot cast on my planes at all. Is it normal??I have set the HDR to default setting.

In order for a scenery object to cast light over other objects (like the user airplane), the scenery must be programmed to do this. The only scenery we made that supports this, is KCLT.

Can't see if/when older sceneries could be upgraded, since they were *designed* taking into account a sim with NO dynamic light so, it's likely all their night textures would have to be remade from scratch.