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Title: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 03:30:35 AM
We are happy to announce one of the largest GSX updates ever, version 1.9, which add Deicing vehicles to the product. In addition to De-icers, there are many new features which has been added following all suggestion from our users.

IMPROVEMENTS LIST:

  • De-icers added, will be selectable before Pushback if OAT < 4°C
  • The Airplane configuration editor has support for Deicers path points, to allow precise following of the wing surface for any airplane
  • Added a Straight Pushback option
  • Boarding/Deboarding passenger voices improved, with much better sound variety.
  • 3 New Pushback trucks models: A/S 32A-31A, TLD TMX-400, TPX-200-S
  • All Pushback trucks now have multiple liveries
  • Custom Pushback Nodes added in the Airport Customization page
  • Airport range, to fix issues with very small airports (helipads, seaplane bases) inside larger ones
  • Wingwalkers shows their company logo on their jacket
  • New operators added: GAT, Acciona, 2Serve, Aerdorica, Oman Air. Some operator logos have been redesigned in better quality
  • Better support for Leonardo SH Maddog


How to get the Update

This is a Major Update, so you'll receive a notification from the Live Update service to download and install the latest  Stand-Alone Addon Manager for FSX (http://www.fsdreamteam.com/sa-addon-manager). However, it's not enough, because you'll still need to get all the new vehicles, textures and sounds. One of the GSX Vehicle Updates is needed. Which one, depends how old is your full GSX install. In most of the cases, the Update 4 or 5 should be enough. All Vehicle Updates can be found on the GSX product page (http://www.fsdreamteam.com/products.html) of the main site.

If you just download the current Full GSX Installer (http://www.fsdreamteam.com/gsx) it will contain everything needed with nothing else to do. If you downloaded the full GSX after today, November 28th, your installer will read at least 1.9.0.0, so you already have everything included in this update.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: N76055 on November 28, 2014, 04:15:19 AM
Beautiful! Thank you very much for the straight pushback option + nodes! (http://www.houstonspotters.net/smf/Smileys/default/thumbsup.gif)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: flaviossa on November 28, 2014, 04:32:04 AM
Quote from: virtuali link=topic=11072.msg85519#msg85519 date=141713823One of the [b
GSX Vehicle Updates[/b] is needed. Which one, depends how old is your full GSX install. In most of the cases, the Update 4 or 5 should be enough.

Hello! Thanks for the update! What updates are these? I can only see one topic about gsx vehicles texture update with only one .exe file to download. Is this the one you“re talking about?  What is update 4 or 5?
Thanks again.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 04:33:20 AM
What updates are these? I can only see one topic about gsx vehicles texture update with only one .exe file to download. Is this the one you“re talking about?  What is update 4 or 5?

The one you are referring to it's not just "textures", it contains ALL updates to vehicles released so far.

The one on the forum is the largest one, but you can find smaller downloads on the GSX page on the web site, which can be used too to save some download time (which one you get, depends how old is your GSX full install).

If you don't want to figure out how old is your GSX install, just download the Full GSX installer, and nothing else. Which of course, is what the above announcement post just said...


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Wegger on November 28, 2014, 04:33:20 AM
Amazing update!

Please video/shots!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: flaviossa on November 28, 2014, 04:37:25 AM
ah, thanks Umberto! Sorry about the silly question  ;D


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: theshack440 on November 28, 2014, 05:16:20 AM
Great update! So nice to hear, and thank you Umberto (and the team members).

One question: is there a way in the airport customization page to customize where the deice trucks deice? Or is there an option to deice wherever, as long as it's below that specific temperature? I only ask because I think in most airports airplanes are deiced on specific taxiways and not at the gates.

Still I'm just being nitpicky, thank you again for all the great work!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: NickATC on November 28, 2014, 05:28:45 AM
Nice update.  I'm not very keen on installation procedures so I made my own notes on installing this kind of important updates.

I hope someone finds this information useful.  Taken from previous posts.

***********************

DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS TO AVOID TYPICAL ERRORS IN GSX.


The most likely cause is the antivirus that corrupted it by mistakenly trying to "heal" a non-existent threat.

- Uninstall GSX. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.

- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface, but turn off the real time protection. Actual wording changes between products, however, it's the option to scan every file that gets open in real time, without user intervention.

- Reinstall GSX with the Antivirus TURNED OFF. Don't launch FSX yet.

- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:

YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\couatl.exe

YourFSXFolder it's usually C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X, if you installed it in the default folder.

- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX.

- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND the "Couatl powered products" menu under the "Addons" menu.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: DrumsArt on November 28, 2014, 05:38:46 AM
Thank you very much for the update

Best Regards,

Richard Portier


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: chrisjhan on November 28, 2014, 05:39:23 AM
Why isnt there a pushback option after deicing is finished


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: coolgovind180 on November 28, 2014, 05:49:40 AM
wow atlast de icers..thanks a lot..

Now my plan is to deactivate and uninstall the current version of GSX on my Pc and then install the new 1.9 version as a fresh install. Would this be sufficient?? should I install any vehicle updates after this??

Also if possible..can you please post a screenshot of deicing being done?? just curious.  ::)

Thanking you

Govind


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: tangjuice81 on November 28, 2014, 05:54:31 AM
Very nice.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Hnla on November 28, 2014, 05:57:21 AM
The de-ice cloud flickers, is this something that can be fixed?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jay19 on November 28, 2014, 07:26:50 AM
Hello I have installed this update, and now the panels on my Quality Wings 757 do not work, can someone please help. Thanks.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: skipy33 on November 28, 2014, 07:51:49 AM
Hi,

I'd like to do a complete reinstall of GSX with the latest release. Do I need to backup all the customisations before proceeding with uninstall (Airports gates, aircrafts) and restore them after the new install?

Thanks,

Skip. 


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Longhaul444 on November 28, 2014, 08:25:55 AM
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I just noticed a small bug or perhaps mistype. When de-icing at type IV 75% concentration, when they finish the message says Type III 75% concentration. But they say Type IV.

Yes, noted.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: robains on November 28, 2014, 08:41:17 AM
Nice feature ... much appreciated ... here is quick video of de-icer in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ie26Rg6gQ

However, one sorta important bug ... De-icer is triggered by requesting push back in GSX menu, but after the de-icer completes there is no longer any option to do the actual push-back via the GSX menu.  Only way to get a push-back is to reset position, and the request push-back and then say NO to de-icer.

Thanks for the update though.

Cheers Rob.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Longhaul444 on November 28, 2014, 08:51:55 AM
Maybe you have to reinstall the GSX. I did the full reinstall and had no issues of not having an option for pushback. I had both the left/right pushback as well as a straight pushback for 100m

By the way nice video :)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jgoggi on November 28, 2014, 09:19:56 AM
Hello,
I am not at home, so I can't test the update.

Is the marshaller still walking away of the airplane after parking? It would be nice if he could remain close to it at least for a couple of minutes, until the cockpit-to-ground communication is over, otherwise it is unrealistic that the pilot communicates with a marshaller that has gone away...


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Hnla on November 28, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
Hello I have installed this update, and now the panels on my Quality Wings 757 do not work, can someone please help. Thanks.

How does this have anything to do with GSX, this is the most ridiculous statement ever


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Hnla on November 28, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
I just noticed a small bug or perhaps mistype. When de-icing at type IV 75% concentration, when they finish the message says Type III 75% concentration. But they say Type IV.



And here is the typo:

[URL=http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/Longhaul444/media/deicing1_zps4aa276c0.png.html]

Only thing I have found so far. Great update guys  8)
 (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/Longhaul444/media/deicing_zps3c39fcb2.png.html)

Yep this also happens to me.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: streichholz on November 28, 2014, 10:09:35 AM
No bugs for me, just an amazing Update.

But one little question. Do the Trucks always come to the parking position, or are there options (ENGM for example) where the Trucks waiting on the De-Icing position?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: voodoo101 on November 28, 2014, 10:15:17 AM
I would love to have voice control added to GSX. Would be great to have the it wait for you to tell it that the brakes have been release before pushing and they wait to disconnect until told do.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: fly_edds on November 28, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
The pax boarding sounds on cargo planes have not been fixed so far? 
GSX is still not able to exclude these soundfiles when it detects a freighter? :'(


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 12:16:24 PM
One question: is there a way in the airport customization page to customize where the deice trucks deice? Or is there an option to deice wherever, as long as it's below that specific temperature? I only ask because I think in most airports airplanes are deiced on specific taxiways and not at the gates.

No, there isn't, GSX supports deicing at the gate right now, because it's part of the departure sequence. We might consider adding deicing areas, but it would of course require customization for each airport.

Deicing is done at the gate quite regularly, I recall having seen it many times, as a passengers, just before pushback. Yes, many airports have dedicated areas too, but that doesn't mean deicing at the gate is not used.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: galenogarbe on November 28, 2014, 12:30:50 PM
After the upgrade, the passagers boarding sounds is not working. All other sounds are fine.

BTW: this is the anti-icing service in action ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXRQ0hUw68


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
However, one sorta important bug ... De-icer is triggered by requesting push back in GSX menu, but after the de-icer completes there is no longer any option to do the actual push-back via the GSX menu.  Only way to get a push-back is to reset position, and the request push-back and then say NO to de-icer.

I think there's a problem with parking positions with only one choice ( only Left or only Right, or None ), because it works normally if there are two choices. We'll surely fix it, the best solution would be having the straight pushback option always available, even when the parking pushback is set to None.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 12:32:45 PM
The pax boarding sounds on cargo planes have not been fixed so far?  GSX is still not able to exclude these soundfiles when it detects a freighter? :'(

It will come ( with much more ) with the Cargo expansion product we are working on right now.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 12:38:44 PM
After the upgrade the passagers boarding sounds is not working. All other sounds are fine.

Try to use the full GSX installer.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Jedi928 on November 28, 2014, 01:11:27 PM
Hi,

Good news for this update but now with Majestic Dash P3d2.4 i have GSX service catering incomplete again!
With the old version 1.8.9.4 i could resolve the pb assigning right forward (the more forward) service door 1 to door with open/close checks as FSX Door#4 and right backward  (the more backward) service door 2 to no door at this position.
With the new version 1.9.0 it doesn't work! It is stopping to the message catering service is on their way again!
With the new version 1.9.0 with defaut gates settings for majestic Dash it is the same!

However i have fsx installed too and after deicing for example my PMDG 737 at Chambéry France VFR i don't have the pushback, i have to reset position to access pushback option! I have desinstalled the 1.8.9.4 version completely before to install 1.9 so it mustn't be a problem of update files! However at LSGG Fsdreamteam it works! So it seems not working on all airports.

Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
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With the old version 1.8.9.4 i could resolve the pb assigning right forward (the more forward) service door 1 to door with open/close checks as FSX Door#4 and right backward  (the more backward) service door 2 to no door at this position. With the new version 1.9.0 it doesn't work! It is stopping to the message catering service is on their way again!

I don't know what I did to the configuration file but, I just tried asking for catering with the Dash 8, using the default configuration that comes with GSX, and catering completed correctly. I had a truck on the aft door, and a minivan on the front door, which is correct. Try to Reset the configuration to default, and "Restart Couatl".

However i have fsx installed too and after deicing for example my PMDG 737 at Chambéry France VFR i don't have the pushback, i have to reset position to access pushback option! I have desinstalled the 1.8.9.4 version completely before to install 1.9 so it mustn't be a problem of update files! However at LSGG Fsdreamteam it works! So it seems not working on all airports.

There was a problem if the pushback preference was set to "None", but this is already fixed, so you should get it automatically if you reinstall or just check for updates with Live Update.

Instead, there's another problem we just found, that if you select the "Customize this parking position" option to change anything, the pushback will not work anymore after you Apply the changes, so the solution is to select "Restart Couatl" AFTER you made a change to the customization page.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: coolgovind180 on November 28, 2014, 03:01:33 PM
in the next version i would kindly request to add vehicles for jet airways as its the second major airline of India which travels foreign too...

Thanking you

govind


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: skipy33 on November 28, 2014, 04:21:17 PM
I'd like to do a complete reinstall of GSX with the latest release. Do I need to backup all the customisations before proceeding with uninstall (Airports gates, aircrafts) and restore them after the new install?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 04:44:26 PM
I'd like to do a complete reinstall of GSX with the latest release. Do I need to backup all the customisations before proceeding with uninstall (Airports gates, aircrafts) and restore them after the new install?

Uninstalling and Reinstalling GSX won't remove any of your customized settings so, if you are sure they are ok, you don't need to to anything special to save them.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: airernie on November 28, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
Wow!  GSX keeps getting better and better..  Definitely one of my better purchases for FSX.

Ernie


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: robains on November 28, 2014, 06:47:53 PM
Maybe you have to reinstall the GSX. I did the full reinstall and had no issues of not having an option for pushback. I had both the left/right pushback as well as a straight pushback for 100m

By the way nice video :)

I did do the full re-install of GSX (no Anti-virus enabled).  I get the new push-back option so long as I say NO to de-ice.  But if I select de-ice, once completed I don't have any option to do the push-back.  This issue has been reported by others on AVSIM.

Cheers, Rob.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Wegger on November 28, 2014, 07:14:05 PM
Nice feature ... much appreciated ... here is quick video of de-icer in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ie26Rg6gQ

However, one sorta important bug ... De-icer is triggered by requesting push back in GSX menu, but after the de-icer completes there is no longer any option to do the actual push-back via the GSX menu.  Only way to get a push-back is to reset position, and the request push-back and then say NO to de-icer.

Thanks for the update though.

Cheers Rob.

Thank you Rob!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: guswhite3 on November 28, 2014, 07:18:56 PM
Great product, and thanks for the update.

My first run this morning at KMSP in a QW757 worked great except that I could not see the de-icers ... all the sounds were there, I just could not see the trucks. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Gus White
UAL1063


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: havenman on November 28, 2014, 07:47:11 PM
I keep getting the message "De-Icing is not available for your aircraft  at this position". What am I missing? Thanks

Martin


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 07:49:35 PM
I keep getting the message "De-Icing is not available for your aircraft  at this position". What am I missing? Thanks

Already discussed and answered here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,11087.0.html


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Longhaul444 on November 28, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
Maybe you have to reinstall the GSX. I did the full reinstall and had no issues of not having an option for pushback. I had both the left/right pushback as well as a straight pushback for 100m

By the way nice video :)

I did do the full re-install of GSX (no Anti-virus enabled).  I get the new push-back option so long as I say NO to de-ice.  But if I select de-ice, once completed I don't have any option to do the push-back.  This issue has been reported by others on AVSIM.

Cheers, Rob.

OK, maybe I just haven't run across this yet, as I just installed it last night. So far no issues with push back and the PMDG 777. Wonder if it's just waiting for me to hit the sweet spot and rear its ugly head?  :-\


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 08:13:21 PM
OK, maybe I just haven't run across this yet, as I just installed it last night. So far no issues with push back and the PMDG 777. Wonder if it's just waiting for me to hit the sweet spot and rear its ugly head?  :-\

There was surely a problem when the parking pushback preference is set to "None", the Straight pushback option didn't appear, but other than that, it's working.

And, even that bug is already fixed in the current Live Update so, if you ran the installer after we fixed it, you already got it, because it downloaded it on the fly while you were installing it, and if you haven't, you can get it through Live Update anyway without reinstalling.

There's another smaller issue left (which will fix too soon), that if you customize the parking position with the GSX editor, you must always select "Restart Couatl" after you made any changes, otherwise pushback won't start in that session.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Longhaul444 on November 28, 2014, 08:22:37 PM
Outstanding!! I have been impressed with the level of CS from FSDT. I am glad I became a customer. Now just one more request if possible.... could you guys get the yellow lights to flash on the deicing trucks if possible?  ;D


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Jedi928 on November 28, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
Hi,

For the Majestic P3d2.4, With the old version 1.8.9.4 i could resolve the pb assigning right forward (the more forward) service door 1 to door with open/close checks as FSX Door#4 and right backward  (the more backward) service door 2 to no door at this position. With the new version 1.9.0 it doesn't work! It is stopping to the message catering service is on their way again!

I have tried like you tell me to reset the configuration to default, and "Restart Couatl" but the result is exactly the same! Always the message catering service is on their way again!

For FSX everything seems to be ok if you choose a heavy gate with PMDG 737.

Rgds





Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: galenogarbe on November 28, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
After the upgrade the passagers boarding sounds is not working. All other sounds are fine.

Try to use the full GSX installer.

That's how I did. No lucky. I think I need some help/support.  :-\


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2014, 09:02:51 PM
That's how I did. No lucky. I think I need some help/support.

I confirm the passengers sounds are working. Of course, check you haven't mistakenly put a too short time for boarding/deboarding in the GSX Setting, so it's not happening to quick that no sound get a chance to play.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: DoubleG01 on November 28, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
except that I could not see the de-icers ... all the sounds were there, I just could not see the trucks

+1 same here


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2014, 12:16:14 AM
except that I could not see the de-icers ... all the sounds were there, I just could not see the trucks

+1 same here

Again, I can only repeat and confirm that, if you install either the vehicle updates or the GSX full installer, it's not possible you would hear the sound but not see the vehicles.

Invisible objects might be caused, instead, by wrong video tweaks/settings. Try all the following:

- Update your video driver

- Reset your video driver settings to default

- Reset the FSX settings to default, by removing the following file:

%APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG

This will force FSX to rebuild a new config with all default settings. After doing this, be sure you apply the HIGHMEMFIX tweak in the Addon Manager, save the settings and restart FSX.

If this still doesn't fix it, be sure you don't run FSX into any of the "Compatibility" modes. Every checkmark in the Compatibility tab of the Properties for FSX.EXE should be off.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: ianj844 on November 29, 2014, 12:37:34 AM
Hi love the update! Just a few bugs that i have found that have not been addressed (or at least from what i could find)

1. On the deicing trucks on the door it has an eaglejet logo even for the delta trucks. Could it show the airline logo on the door?
2. It says the the wing walkers vest will now show the airline logo. For me where everything else was delta it still showed marshal on the back of the vest.
3. When you do a strait pushback when you select to stop the push back the truck lets go of the airplane and the airplane starts to roll backwards not like on the left or right where the airplane slows down then asks you to set the parking break.

4. (I did already see this one reported) After the de-icing is complete there is no option for pushback you have to reset the position then when its asks again if you want de-icing you have to select no.

It would be great if these issues could be fixed!

Thanks,
Ian


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jmnc747 on November 29, 2014, 12:57:00 AM
Sorry but everytime I try to use the de-icers i get a message that says:"de-icers not available on this parking position and with this aircraft" I tried several airports and default aircrafts with no luck. Thanks

Joćo


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2014, 01:37:23 AM
1. On the deicing trucks on the door it has an eaglejet logo even for the delta trucks. Could it show the airline logo on the door?

Well, that's not really a bug, we left those logos because the livery looked a bit empty with just the proper operator logo. Maybe we could replace it with something like the brand of the vehicle itself...

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2. It says the the wing walkers vest will now show the airline logo. For me where everything else was delta it still showed marshal on the back of the vest.

Nobody said the "marshaller" sign on the back was replaced (he's still a marshaller...). The ground operator logo that has been added in this version is on the front of the jacket, and it's not very large, so you might have to get close to notice it.

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3. When you do a strait pushback when you select to stop the push back the truck lets go of the airplane and the airplane starts to roll backwards not like on the left or right where the airplane slows down then asks you to set the parking break.

That's how it's has been intentionally made, is not a bug.

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4. (I did already see this one reported) After the de-icing is complete there is no option for pushback you have to reset the position then when its asks again if you want de-icing you have to select no.

This has been already fixed, you might have it or not, depending when you installed it, but you can get it anyway if you check for Live Updates. This happened only if the pushback parking preference in the AFCAD was set to "None".

There's still a minor issue that if you go into the parking customization screen and press Apply without restarting Couatl, no pushback menu will appear, this will be fixed too, but in the meantime you can just restart after entering the customization screen.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2014, 01:41:06 AM
Sorry but everytime I try to use the de-icers i get a message that says:"de-icers not available on this parking position and with this aircraft" I tried several airports and default aircrafts with no luck. Thanks

This has been discussed and answered several times already on this same thread, and it's because you have installed only the Addon Manager, but not the vehicles, so you are missing the actual deicer objects.

Download and install one of the vehicles updates, as explained in the first post of this thread OR download and install the full GSX installer.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: ianj844 on November 29, 2014, 01:53:20 AM
Can you consider putting the logo on the back under the marshal text as i think this would be more realistic. (See pictures below)

(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/450543354-an-american-airlines-group-inc-aircraft-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7Qb%2FYVHmKz9vVe7rJHUL%2FKKn%2ByT2LIXiARPrSjRwlwiXn)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FWlOxrKAkZE/Sy_S1GGac1I/AAAAAAAAAy0/088NrwplfRs/s400/alaska+mickey+marshaller.jpg)(Not Mine)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jakklasek on November 29, 2014, 02:20:22 AM
Awesome guys! :))

Have a few questions regarding De-Ice.. I didn't see the GSX since update, so sorry If I ask for suggestion what already exist.

1) De-Ice of elevator and tail?
2) Modify direction how De-Ice Units are working - I mean they arrive from the front of the A/C, after wings overtake them and get done elevator, tail?
3) Options such as what I want to De-Ice - Whole control surfaces (Wings, Elevator, Tail), or just wings or spot De-Ice for example?
4) Options what ratio of liquids use? 50/50, 75/25, 100/0, One-Step/Two-Step De-Ice?
5) De-Icing on different stand? Option I can choose De-Ice on current stand or where I want to get it done (different one)

Thanks in advance for responses, guys..  ::)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jakklasek on November 29, 2014, 02:24:17 AM
Can you consider putting the logo on the back under the marshal text as i think this would be more realistic. (See pictures below)

(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/450543354-an-american-airlines-group-inc-aircraft-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7Qb%2FYVHmKz9vVe7rJHUL%2FKKn%2ByT2LIXiARPrSjRwlwiXn)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FWlOxrKAkZE/Sy_S1GGac1I/AAAAAAAAAy0/088NrwplfRs/s400/alaska+mickey+marshaller.jpg)(Not Mine)

I think thats irrelevant. For example here where I live and work (as Handling Agent), in Prague (Czech Republic), the Follow-Me Car is provided by ŘLP ČR a.s. (Air Traffic Control of Czech republic - Joint Stock Company). Not by us - Menzies Aviation Czech.

Additionally, pilots mostly don't see marshaller's back..  ;D


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2014, 02:28:26 AM
1) De-Ice of elevator and tail?
2) Modify direction how De-Ice Units are working - I mean they arrive from the front of the A/C, after wings overtake them and get done elevator, tail?

Both of these are affected by the limited space in a parking, which cannot be anticipated on any random scenery. We had de-icers coming from the front during development, but reverted to having them coming from the back, because it solves a lot of potential problems.

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4) Options what ratio of liquids use? 50/50, 75/25, 100/0, One-Step/Two-Step De-Ice?

According to the ICAO deicing documents I have, you don't choose the ratio, they depend mainly on the outside temperature, which is how GSX does it now. Yes, you might prefer a type or the other, depending on your estimated holdover time, but that's not something you can rely too much on with FSX, so the temperature is the only sure thing we have.

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5) De-Icing on different stand? Option I can choose De-Ice on current stand or where I want to get it done (different one)

This is more interesting and will probably added (not sure in the current GSX version though), but it will require individual scenery customization, so it's both a GSX feature, but also a scenery feature.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: RossG on November 29, 2014, 06:06:54 AM
I LOVE GSX! Bought it as soon as it came out. Unfortunately I am not bright enough to know how to program it for my add on planes. Does anyone know if there is a video out there with step by step instructions?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Rafal on November 29, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
Does anyone know if there is a video out there with step by step instructions?

I don't know about videos (you may always search for them on YouTube).
But there is a great 41-page manual that came with your GSX install.
Everything is described there in details. Give it a try!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: mroschk on November 29, 2014, 12:44:27 PM
is it possible to Change the Temperatur for deicing and to
have colored deicing fluid?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: omera60 on November 29, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
Nice feature ... much appreciated ... here is quick video of de-icer in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ie26Rg6gQ

However, one sorta important bug ... De-icer is triggered by requesting push back in GSX menu, but after the de-icer completes there is no longer any option to do the actual push-back via the GSX menu.  Only way to get a push-back is to reset position, and the request push-back and then say NO to de-icer.

Thanks for the update though.

Cheers Rob.

I have the same problem even though I have set all the parking positions to both. When de-icing finishes the left wing de-ice truck leaves but right wing truck only backs up to right side and stays there and I don't have the pushback option then. I have to reset GSX.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jakklasek on November 29, 2014, 06:04:19 PM
1) De-Ice of elevator and tail?
2) Modify direction how De-Ice Units are working - I mean they arrive from the front of the A/C, after wings overtake them and get done elevator, tail?

Both of these are affected by the limited space in a parking, which cannot be anticipated on any random scenery. We had de-icers coming from the front during development, but reverted to having them coming from the back, because it solves a lot of potential problems.

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4) Options what ratio of liquids use? 50/50, 75/25, 100/0, One-Step/Two-Step De-Ice?

According to the ICAO deicing documents I have, you don't choose the ratio, they depend mainly on the outside temperature, which is how GSX does it now. Yes, you might prefer a type or the other, depending on your estimated holdover time, but that's not something you can rely too much on with FSX, so the temperature is the only sure thing we have.

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5) De-Icing on different stand? Option I can choose De-Ice on current stand or where I want to get it done (different one)

This is more interesting and will probably added (not sure in the current GSX version though), but it will require individual scenery customization, so it's both a GSX feature, but also a scenery feature.

For first and second - okay, limitation on stand is acceptable. In case the fifth suggestion will added - the limitations would be broken out, wouldn't they?

Fourth suggestion - Well, in fact the ratio is chosen according to discussion between Handling Agent and pilots regarding actual weather condition and temperature. So before De-Ice will start, you would have choose what ratio used. Of course FSX is limited to simulate it, that's just for the feeling of reality. For example regarding AEA Guidlines for holdover time - 0°C and more using 0/100 (only hot wateris enough), -3 and above 75/25 or 50/50 can be used, -3 to -14 can be used 75/25, -14 to -25 is two-step required with second ratio of 100/0. Holdover times are different by weather conditions, but for FSX it would be chooseble just regarding temperature - manually or automatically.

EDIT: Aaaah, sorry.. I just see it's already included - automatic selection regarding outside temperature.. But still, for that feeling. Personally I  would appreciate it. Or maybe I'm just degenerated by work... :-D

Fifth - Uf, just hope it still be working on all sceneries without modifying them (because it would take some more time, when developers release updates If ever)... :)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
is it possible to Change the Temperatur for deicing

There's no need to change the temperature, because the one used are already confirming to official ICAO standard.

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and to have colored deicing fluid?

It's already colored, we have green for type 4 and pale orange for everything else, and there's no official standard for type 3 but yes, I guess we could add yellow too.

The colors are very muted, because you don't really much color when the liquid is coming out from the nozzle at high pressure. You see it mainly when it goes on the airplane surfaces, but that's not simulated, and it's not going to be happening (we obviously thought about it, but it's very complex because it would require having a copy of the 3d model of the wing for every supported airplane), so don't ask...


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: crauds on November 30, 2014, 12:27:21 AM
I just uninstalled a previous version of GSX and installed with full install this new version 1.9.  I was using NGX parked at UHHH Gate G6 which is configured for small planes and "both" for pushback.  Temperature was -5C so I had de-icers available when I selected "pushback" and I answered "yes" and selected a type of fluid.  De-icers only de-iced main wings (I assume that is all that is simulated at this point) and when finished the trucks backed away and I saw and heard the message that they had disconnected.  I pulled up the GSX menu again so I could get pushback but could no longer find the pushback option.  In its place was "De-icing completed".  Pushing that option gave me nothing!  I have not altered the aircraft nor the parking place (default FSX airport) since the install.  I went into coatl menu to verify that my pushback for that gate was set for "both" and it was.  As several previous users have experienced, I had to restart GSX in order to get the pushback option again.  And this time it did not give me the "deice" option.  Maybe that is a clue as to what is happening.

Anyway I am very pleased with the new features and anticipate that this little issue will be quickly resolved for those of us experiencing it.  Thank you fsdreamteam for a product that has become indispensable to me.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 30, 2014, 12:29:52 AM
I was using NGX parked at UHHH Gate G6 which is configured for small planes and "both" for pushback.

Default scenery ? If not, clearly identify the scenery or, if possible, indicate where it happens on either a default scenery or an FSDT. Not because de-icers works only with default sceneries and FSDT sceneries, but because I can TEST IT!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: crauds on November 30, 2014, 12:47:28 AM
Hi Umberto!

    Thanks for the timely response.  It is UHHH default but I have corrected most of the AFCADS over the years to bring them up to current charts.   I have included my edited AFCAD that includes any corrections I may have made.  Everything else in GSX works perfectly so I doubt ther is any anomaly in the gate.  On my AFCAD it is gate G6 and I was using a PMDG NGX (800 w/ winglets) model.  I don't think I have any major airports that I haven't updated so my "default" may not be the same as your "default".  Hope my AFCAD file will suffice.  Both of these files were in my "add-on scenery" folder so don't know if both are necessary, but I have included both.

 As an after thought, I also attached my GSX file for that airport showing my current gate settings.


  Cheers!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: BBBE on November 30, 2014, 12:56:22 PM
Dear all,

i have the same Problem in CYZF (default)

I had to restart GSX in order to get the pushback option again after De Ice

Kind regards


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on November 30, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
An actual restart, or just hitting the hotkey again?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 30, 2014, 02:24:41 PM
As an after thought, I also attached my GSX file for that airport showing my current gate settings.

Tried your file, and the interesting thing I noted, is that I can replicate the problem, with your file, but NOT with the default one. It's not the GSX customization, because it happens regardless if the .INI is used or not, so it must be something related to the distance between the exit nodes.

It's not a bug of your scenery, though, we must have to tune better the thresholds used to decide to use or not an exit node, but since I CAN replicate it, the bug it's on its way to be fixed.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: crauds on November 30, 2014, 06:17:35 PM
Hi Umberto!

   I have always admired your dauntless tenacity and your exemplary dedication toward resolving issues for your customers.  I did not really expect you to take your weekend to handle this issue, however, I, for one, am truly grateful.

   In regards to your initial observation, the pushback works perfectly if the "de-icing" option is declined.  If it were the nodes issue, would it also not show up during normal pushback?

   I did find that if I "restart" GXS instead of just "resetting" it, the vehicles still remain in position visually and the option to pushback is then present when I press CTL-F12.  By selecting "NO" to the anti-ice this second time through, the normal pushback sequence can then be selected.  It is an acceptable workaround that doesn't seem to disturb the visual immersion, if no other remedy can be found.  BTW, I do like the new option to push straight back.  This has been needed.

   Thank your great work with this program.  As I mentioned earlier, it has become an indispensable addition to all my flights.

 Cheers!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 30, 2014, 06:22:13 PM
   In regards to your initial observation, the pushback works perfectly if the "de-icing" option is declined.  If it were the nodes issue, would it also not show up during normal pushback?

The problem are the deicers, because they do not go away (one remains on the parking), and that causes the pushback not to start. It is a problem of the nodes, for sure, but not really a "problem", because the scenery is fine, it something doesn't work in all situations in the algorithm that calculates the return path for deicers.


Title: Voice Sound Video
Post by: Bob G. on November 30, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
Can someone make a sound video of the voices that GSX has when Boarding/Deboarding passengers?

Bob G.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: jgoggi on November 30, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Sorry Umberto, I did not inderstand if the tail deicing is implemented only in some parkings or it's not implemented at all.
Thanks.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on November 30, 2014, 11:08:12 PM
it's not implemented at all.

This.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: pikalaxalt on December 01, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
I haven't installed the new vehicles yet.  However, a sample video on YouTube shows the deicers working on the PMDG 737-800 NGX, and they only spray the front of the wing.  In the future, do you plan to implement a wing surface detection algorithm that will tell the deicers how to spray the whole wing?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 01, 2014, 10:14:26 PM
they only spray the front of the wing

They spray the TOP of the wing, and they surely cover it all.

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In the future, do you plan to implement a wing surface detection algorithm that will tell the deicers how to spray the whole wing?

I'm not sure what do you mean with "wing surface detection algorithm", GSX already contains data for the start and end points of the wing for all supported airplanes and it also allows you to specify them for unsupported ones, and we had to do this BECAUSE the data in the aircraft.cfg is usually wrong, and that's enough to cover the whole wing top, which is more than enough, considering that FSX doesn't make any difference: there's just a "body" to deice, it doesn't make any distinction between different parts, the airplane is either deiced or it's not.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: vivalasvegas on December 02, 2014, 05:15:10 AM
I would like to do an uninstall and then reinstall of GSX.  I would uninstall from Add/Remove programs and then use the latest GSX installer.  Should I also remove Addon Manager and Couatl Engine also?  I am concerned about this because I have other FSDT products installed and don't want to mess this up.

Thanks for your help!
Vivalasvegas


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: omera60 on December 02, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
I would like to do an uninstall and then reinstall of GSX.  I would uninstall from Add/Remove programs and then use the latest GSX installer.  Should I also remove Addon Manager and Couatl Engine also?  I am concerned about this because I have other FSDT products installed and don't want to mess this up.

Thanks for your help!
Vivalasvegas

I uninstalled GSX and then reinstalled it for the update 1.9. I removed both of them and nothing happened. I have FSDT, FlightBeam airports on my system. You can go ahead and do it, nothing gets messy don't worry ;)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 02, 2014, 12:06:54 PM
   In regards to your initial observation, the pushback works perfectly if the "de-icing" option is declined.  If it were the nodes issue, would it also not show up during normal pushback?

Check the latest Live Update: the problem of a "stuck deicer" should be fixed now.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: crauds on December 02, 2014, 01:12:29 PM
Thanks, Umberto!

    I just installed update and ran through with NGX at gates that had problem before and now everything works perfectly!  Trucks back up and go on their way as they should and then the menu display automatically comes back up with pushback options.  Great job as always!  Thank you.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Griff on December 02, 2014, 05:46:26 PM
I installed the latest update by downloading the entire package and completed a re-install along with the latest live update.  I'm still having problems with the push-back option.  After finishing their services, I select "prepare for push back and departure."  The ground services do not respond and I have to reset the program in order for it to work.  I'm also experiencing sound "cutouts" while the services are being performed.  I had not experienced that before.  It seems to be positional and at times, I can't hear the ground units and then if I look straight ahead, the sound returns and is steady.  Anyway, still a great product and hopefully these small issues will be resolved. 


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on December 02, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
Hi,

sometimes there are situations that de-icing area on airport is on different stand (I fly on VATSIM). In this case, aircrafts normally start the engines and taxi to that special stand with de-ice maintenance. Jet aircrafts mostly don't stop the engines when they arrive to de-icing area. But... with running engines we don't have possibility to run GSX' de-icers.
Is it possible to change it?

Lucas


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Artur on December 03, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
Umberto please, put some hat on the head of poor de-icer man, because they're freezing on that truck's with bellow zero temp.  :D


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 03, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
Umberto please, put some hat on the head of poor de-icer man, because they're freezing on that truck's with bellow zero temp.  :D

Yes, this occurred to me, I think everybody that is working in the open should have alternate clothing for bad weather.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Cool on December 03, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
Hello Umberto
I really do appreciate GSX in general and the de-icers are the cheeries on the cake  ;D

Just one question regarding parking area without push back need. How to handle the request for de-icing?

Pascal


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 03, 2014, 03:42:54 PM
Just one question regarding parking area without push back need. How to handle the request for de-icing?

The current version has also added to always get the "straight pushback" option available, even when the parking preference has been set to "none" so, after you got the deicers, you can cancel pushback if you don't need it.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: vivalasvegas on December 04, 2014, 03:01:00 AM
I just installed GSX 1.9 over my existing version and that fixed the missing deicer trucks.  Now, I not only hear them but see them also!!  Apparently there were some files that my previous update did not install properly. I plan to do a complete flight tomorrow using all the features of GSX.  What a great product!
   
Thanks Umberto and others for all your help and suggestions!

Vivalasvegas


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on December 04, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Umberto,

can you look at this question?

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sometimes there are situations that de-icing area on airport is on different stand (I fly on VATSIM). In this case, aircrafts normally start the engines and taxi to that special stand with de-ice maintenance. Jet aircrafts mostly don't stop the engines when they arrive to de-icing area. But... with running engines we don't have possibility to run GSX' de-icers.
Is it possible to change it?

Lucas

Thanks.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 05, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
can you look at this question?

This has been discussed and answered already: future GSX version might add support for remove deicing pads, but it's not there, and it won't be enough to just add support for it in GSX, it must also being supported by the scenery, otherwise how GSX can't possibly know WHERE you are supposed to deice ?

You can have some kind of a workaround, to simulate this:

1) You must edit the AFCAD to add a new parking spot in the remote deicing area

2) Start from your normal parking, select Pushback and say you don't want de-icers. Use pushback to get out of there and turn the engines on.

3) After pushback, taxi to the new parking and park there. Set parking brakes on, and turn engines off.

4) Call GSX and choose Pushback and departure again, this time say YES to de-icing, then proceed out of there.

That's more or less a remote deicing simulation...


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on December 05, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
...however, I must turn the engines off... anyway, thank you very much for reply.

With regards,
Lucas


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: fabianUU on December 07, 2014, 10:23:09 AM
I GSX 1.9 and I have this problem push back the truck or they are  black or they are not seeing


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 07, 2014, 11:11:39 AM
I GSX 1.9 and I have this problem push back the truck or they are  black or they are not seeing

This has been discussed many times on the forum already.

It's due to the fact that you updated just the Addon Manager, but forgot to update the vehicles, as instructed in the updated announcement thread and in the update release notes.

You can fix this by downloading one of the vehicle updates, or the full GSX installer.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Stefano BZ on December 13, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
Hi
I have added a custom PB in two airport, from one stand (not from all the stands), and now from all the stands of these airports i have only the straight head PB and the custom PB...normal left and right are not available.
Is "normal"??

Another question: is possible to deactivate the sound of the vehicles when the visual is from the cockpit?

Thanks


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 13, 2014, 06:14:04 PM
I have added a custom PB in two airport, from one stand (not from all the stands), and now from all the stands of these airports i have only the straight head PB and the custom PB...normal left and right are not available. Is "normal"??

You must have had all the parkings selected, or the "root" node of the left side of the page (the one that contains the ICAO code), so your preference was applied to all parkings. In this case, yes, it's normal, that's how GSX is supposed to work.

You can undo this by removing the .INI file for that airport in your %APPDATA%\Virtuali\GSX folder

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Another question: is possible to deactivate the sound of the vehicles when the visual is from the cockpit ?

No.

The whole point is that GSX supports surround sounds, and in the cockpit is where the effect can be heard the most. Since you are boarding/deboarding or doing catering, the airplane doors are open, so it's normal you hear them.

Of course, you can control the volume with the GSX sound volume slider.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Stefano BZ on December 13, 2014, 07:06:22 PM
Hi
When i have added the custom PB, i have selected only the stand from where i need the custom PB.
In any case now i have resolved...i have deleted from the file in the folder that you have said, all the line of the other stands, and maybe now is ok :)

For the sound, i want to deactivate only the sound of the PB truck, that is high, also with all the doors closed.
I have tried with the volumes slider, but not effect on this, and also on the other vehicles

Grazie Umberto


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Victoroos on December 16, 2014, 05:02:44 PM
Maybe I'm just stupid, but, after I select the de icer verhicle, they say they are on the way.. after a while they say they have arrived.. but I don't see them.
how is this possible?

vkr
victor


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on December 16, 2014, 10:50:07 PM
Maybe I'm just stupid, but, after I select the de icer verhicle, they say they are on the way.. after a while they say they have arrived.. but I don't see them. how is this possible?

Already asked and replied to in this same thread:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,11072.msg85634.html#msg85634


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: lucdesorel on December 17, 2014, 11:22:58 PM
hi!!!  i have install all update, but when i ask for de-icer truck, i dont see them.  i can eqar the voice of the guy for de-ice but dont see the truck, and i see all other vehicule service around my aircraft...  what can i do to see the de-ice truck???


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on December 17, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
lucdesorel, have you read previous post? Maybe you will find the answer to your question there...


Title: VERY COOL UPDATE
Post by: soenke96 on December 30, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
The 1.9 update is very good! Yesterday when I was at the airport I still thought: It would be very cool if there would exist  De-Icers in GSX  :D
But i have something to add for the next update too: Cleaning Services! If that would exist in GSX and the Vehicles wouldn“t go through other GSX Vehicles or other Airplanes GSX where PERFECT  ;D

*SRY FOR BAD ENGLISCH :D *


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on January 04, 2015, 12:07:51 AM
Hi friends,

anyone have observed flashing vapour on wings while de-ice procedure when moving angle view of external camera?
PMDG 777, GSX 1.9.0.5 (installed from full installer)

Lucas


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Hnla on January 04, 2015, 12:18:38 AM
Hi friends,

anyone have observed flashing vapour on wings while de-ice procedure when moving angle view of external camera?
PMDG 777, GSX 1.9.0.5 (installed from full installer)

Lucas

Yep, happens to me. It flickers


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on January 04, 2015, 06:54:53 PM
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flashing vapour
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It flickers

Anybody knows what is the reason of that?
Ps. I have DX10Fixer.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Hnla on January 04, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
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flashing vapour
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It flickers

Anybody knows what is the reason of that?
Ps. I have DX10Fixer.

I'm not using DX10.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 05, 2015, 12:37:46 AM
There's nothing we or you can do to prevent some flickering with FSX, it's just that FSX special effects are bugged and when they are displayed so close to a 3d object, like the airplane, there are sorting issue that are just FSX bugs.

Prepar3D has fixed this, you run the same deicers under it, and there's no flickering whatsoever. It's just something you must live with it in FSX.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: luko on January 05, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
Roger that. Thanks Umberto.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: tosco92 on January 06, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
hi, I have not seen anyone put for deicing


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 06, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
The message is not very clear, and deicers are working. Have you read how they are supposed to be activated ?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 10, 2015, 08:35:33 PM
HI I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS AFTER UPDATE LAST VERSION,MY GSX DISSAPEAR FROM  ADDON MANAGER WHEN I RUN FSX(FSX BAR)AND CTR+F12 NOT RESPOND ALSO ,I REINSTALLED EVERYTHING FEW TIMES AND STILL DONT KNOW  WHATS HAPPEND PLEASE EXPLAIN WHATS GOING ON.....I EVEN CANNOT DEACTIVATE FROM FSX MENY GSX BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ON FSX MENU BAR WHEN I RUN FSX SO,IF I UNINSTALL FSX I WILL LOOSE MY REG LIMIT .OR THERE IS ANY CHANCES TO RESET REGISTRATION LIMITS(6) ,I HAD FEW BAD POWER DIPS IN HOME SO MY HD WAS BROKEN AND I USED MY REG LIMIT.MY IVAP HAS ALSO CHANGED A HOT KEYS.SO DO NOT KNOW WHATS HAPPEND ,NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH GSX :-(


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 10, 2015, 08:37:23 PM
HI I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS AFTER UPDATE LAST VERSION

Please rewrite your message in a more understandable way which means: don't use all caps and don't write everything on the same line. Then you might have a better chance to be helped.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 10, 2015, 08:46:18 PM
ok,I fixed already uhhh.. ;).tell me is there is any chances to reset registration limit,just incase of hd damage or anything like that,i can post You a full details to Your email if You need it,thanks and regards Slawek.M.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 10, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
tell me is there is any chances to reset registration limit

Why you think to need a "reset" of your activations, when you clearly haven't see any "Too many activations messages" ?

Do you know you can Deactivate the product yourself, when you need to upgrade hardware ? Please read the sticky thread about Deactivation here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,4082.0.html


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 01:02:12 AM
Ok,I understand,Today i had problems again with GSX and do not know whats happend ,after my last post i reinstalled and i changed in Ivap hot key to ctr+y restarted pc and was ok.I had some flights yesterday with gsx and all worked fine today when i start my fsx again no addon folder when running fsx an buttons ctr+f12 not responds at all  ???,so i'm very confused whats going on.Before my oem crash my fsx and gsx worked very very well,no problems at all even worked cool with aes.Do You know whats the reason??
I reinstalled few times properly like its should be.Do You think maybe i should deactivated gsx uninstal once again and install demo and start activation proces again?  ???and 2nd thing why addon dissapear from fsx when gsx is already installed  :-\(all gsx  is in main fsx root folder,virtuali folder also in app data,and after install and start fsx i press yes butons to run gsx)
regards Slawek


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 15, 2015, 12:31:27 PM
Ok,I understand,Today i had problems again with GSX and do not know whats happend ,after my last post i reinstalled and i changed in Ivap hot key to ctr+y restarted pc and was ok.

So it's clear your problem was caused by the IVAP program that used the same key as GSX.

Quote
I had some flights yesterday with gsx and all worked fine today when i start my fsx again no addon folder when running fsx

This sentence is very confusing, please clarify what do you mean with "no addon folder when running fsx"

- Do you mean that after you run FSX, you don't have your "addon folder" in the FSX folder anymore ? This is odd...

OR

- Do you mean that when running FSX, you don't have your "Addons" MENU under the main FSX menu bar ?

OR

- Do you mean that when running FSX, you don't have the "Addon Manager" MENU under the "Addons" MENU, under the main FSX menu bar ?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 04:28:51 PM
When I run FSX (during flight) in menu bar I have Add-ons Folder but inside this Add-ons folder there is no more GSX  (press right button on mouse and there is hide menu bar). :-\


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 15, 2015, 06:23:03 PM
When I run FSX (during flight) in menu bar I have Add-ons Folder but inside this Add-ons folder there is no more GSX

Still not very clear:

- Are you missing JUST the GSX-related entries of the "Couatl powered products" menu ?

OR

- Are you missing the whole "Couatl powered products" menu ?

OR

- Are you missing BOTH the "Couatl powered products" menu AND the "Addon Manager" menu ?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
second one


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 09:48:03 PM
nothing in also 2mni ago uninstalled Ivap and gsx and removed all files from GSX and Ivap from folders,rebooted pc,reinstalled freshly downloaded GSX and Addon Manager,rebooted again ,Started Fsx with Administrator previlage,running fsx and still nothing in fsx addons bar  :'(


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
but there is fsdreamteam folder in main fsx root folder


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 15, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
second one

when the Couatl menu is missing, the most common cause is the antivirus blocking it.

- Go into Control Panel, Uninstall GSX and reply YES to the questions "Do you want to remove the Addon Manager ?" and reply YES to the question "Do you want to remove the Couatl script engine ?"

- TURN YOUR ANTIVIRUS OFF.

With the antivirus still disabled, reinstall GSX

- BEFORE launching FSX, configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:

YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\Couatl.exe

- Now you can turn your Antivirus on, and launch FSX

- Note if FSX asks permission to run the Addon Manager and the Couatl programs, reply YES to both

- When FSX loads, check if you have BOTH the "Addon Manager" and the "Couatl powered products" under the "Addons" menu.

If still doesn't work, be sure you are NOT running FSX into any of the "Compatibility" modes under Vista/Win7 ( right-click on FSX.EXE, select "Properties", select "Compatibility" and be sure NOTHING is enabled in that page)

If still doesn't work, maybe you also have inadvertently Un-trusted us as a Publisher, so nothing signed by us will run.

To fix this, go to the Control Panel, under "Internet Options", look for the "Content" tab, there should be a "Publishers" button, that will list the software publishers that you trusted, and another tab with untrusted publishers. If you see "Virtuali s.a.s", remove it from both tabs (especially if it's under untrusted)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 10:28:44 PM
ok Virtuali i just changed few things.First There was not Gsx when i uninstalled Ivap AndGsx also right?Rebooted pc,and i reinstalled newer version of gsx 5min ago...still nothing i mean no Coualt-powered products and Addon Manager(activation and deactivation folder) in fsx bar.So next step I uninstalled last product which i installed on my fsx Imean PMDG777 include Extension,also reinstalled gsx with full folders deleting from fsx and user...etc..,after reboot pc last time today I installed GSX Fresh version but not installed this time Virtuali Addon Manager rebooted PC started fsx and guess what???everything is ok i mean in fsx menu bar when U running fsx  ::) ,so my question is is there is maybe a conflict beetwen gsx and PMDG 777??? or problem with Virtualli Addon Manager??? In My case ???


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: seam77 on January 15, 2015, 10:35:30 PM
I now answear to your reply,because when i writed that reply to You i recived from U msg.So i do not have any antivirus programs because thay messing fsx.
answ.no.2
YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\Couatl.exe
Yes i had and have this folders
answ.no3.-Note if FSX asks permission to run the Addon Manager and the Couatl programs, reply YES to both-yes i do it and done it before
answ.no 4-
- When FSX loads, check if you have BOTH the "Addon Manager" and the "Couatl powered products" under the "Addons" menu.

and now i have both of them .
But before did not even uninstalled ivap and gsx,when i uninstalled also pmdg777 all back to normal!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Jackson5 on January 28, 2015, 01:08:02 AM
Hello Umberto,
Thanks for GSX Its'great!  :)

I have a question though: Is it correct that the Lear 45 cannot receive de-icers? The GSX Aircraft setting menu for the Lear 45 does have the inner and outer limit settings for the wings, but whatever I set, no de-icers! I made sure that the ambient temperature on the airport (ESSA) where I tested was below -4 degrees celsius, but I never see the option to call the de-icers, only pushback.
I also tried it with the default Boeing 737 and then all works fine, as for the CRJ 700, B747 and even the DC3.
But with the Lear (at the same parking spot) it doesn't. Does this have to do with the aircraft size, and is there anything I can try to get it working? It would be a great addition to our sim, since we often fly in the Nordic country's....

Thanks and Regards,
Jaap


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 28, 2015, 03:07:25 PM
I have a question though: Is it correct that the Lear 45 cannot receive de-icers? The GSX Aircraft setting menu for the Lear 45 does have the inner and outer limit settings for the wings, but whatever I set, no de-icers! I made sure that the ambient temperature on the airport (ESSA) where I tested was below -4 degrees celsius, but I never see the option to call the de-icers, only pushback.

Yes, this has been already discussed: the current supplied deicers supports airplane with a wingspan of at least 22 meters. We programmed the deicers points on all default airplanes anyway, so we already have them supported when we'll eventually add a different deicing vehicle, more suitable for smaller planes.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Lindsay on February 17, 2015, 12:30:17 PM
Hi Team,

I have a problem with the de-icers. I get the prompts to select de-icing and the type of deicing I need yet there are no deicing vehicles? After approx. a minute or so a green abr appears saying deicing complete? Is this right?

Can you let me know?

Thanks


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on February 17, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
I have a problem with the de-icers. I get the prompts to select de-icing and the type of deicing I need yet there are no deicing vehicles? After approx. a minute or so a green abr appears saying deicing complete? Is this right?

That's not normal, of course.

Vehicles might not appear for the following reasons:

1) You updated using Live Update, but haven't installed the vehicle update, which is needed according to the release notes. However, installing the latest GSX full install will install everything needed.

OR

2) There's a problem with your video settings, so the vehicles are there, but not visible due to a problem with your FSX video settings or video card settings. In this case, try all the following:

- Update your video driver

- Reset your video driver settings to default

- Reset the FSX settings to default, by removing the following file:

%APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG

This will force FSX to rebuild a new config with all default settings. After doing this, be sure you apply the HIGHMEMFIX tweak in the Addon Manager, save the settings and restart FSX.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: AUA9085 on July 20, 2015, 11:48:40 PM
Hi there,

updated yesterday but GSX crashed several times @ LOWG, LOWW and in ENGM there is no GSX Support?


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on July 21, 2015, 08:51:10 AM
updated yesterday but GSX crashed several times @ LOWG, LOWW and in ENGM there is no GSX Support?

Please clarify:

Is GSX crashing everywhere, and you are asking if there's support for it at LOWG, LOWW and in ENGM

OR

Is GSX crashing ONLY at those airport, so you have lost support for it only *there* ? (which is normal, if it has crashed )

In any case, have you seen this is a months old version ? We have just released a new version, which currently is in Public Beta test process, but I suggest to try it anyway:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,12182.0.html


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: AUA9085 on July 23, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
Hi there,

unfortunately it happend at different airports.

I now got this one:

Code:
couatl v3.0 (build 3142)
panic log started on Thu Jul 23 23:29:06 2015

problem raised by engine or unspecified addonAdded Menu SubItem "Restart Couatl" (parentId 67, id 71)
Added Menu SubItem "Key Mappings..." (parentId 67, id 72)
Added Menu SubItem "Show YouControl™ Menu        Ctrl+F12" (parentId 67, id 76)
Current locale is German_Austria.1252
Added Menu SubItem "Check Live Update" (parentId 69, id 79)
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'
Error: exception UNRECOGNIZED_ID in call AddClientEventToNotificationGroup param #3 '85981864'


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on July 24, 2015, 11:05:29 AM
unfortunately it happend at different airports.

Which airports ? You must try to be more precise when reporting, after an user reports a problem, we ALWAYS try to reproduce the same situation: how do you expect we can understand what's wrong with your system, if we cannot test the same situation ourselves ?

So, please, always indicate:

- The airport used. Clearly indicate if it's a default airport or a 3rd party one

- The airplane used

- The gate/position you were located when the error appeared

- If the error happened after selecting a GSX operation, which operation you selected

And, do not post your Log file, and/or edit it. We must read it *entirely* so, it's best if you ATTACH the file itself to the message, instead of posting it or post parts of it.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on July 24, 2015, 11:13:56 AM
unfortunately it happend at different airports.

I now got this one:

I start suspecting there must be some kind of issue caused by a conflict with some other product, and I would like to check it directly on your system with Teamviewer. I'll send you a PM to arrange this.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: omitchell on July 27, 2015, 07:11:04 AM
I can't even install this into FSX Steam Edition or P3D v2.5. It hangs "Copying Local Couatl Updater Executable" and will not go any further. 2 boxes flash up and vanish rapidly when it reaches this point and it won't progress.

Clean install and run as admin has no effect, same issue (And there is no anti-virus)


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Nabil on September 01, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
what about passengers !  ???


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on September 01, 2015, 04:13:25 PM
what about passengers !  ???

Already discussed and answered many times, for example here:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,11142.msg89927.html#msg89927


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Ricovandijk on January 23, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
Hi all,

After a long time, I finally have a new laptop and hence I have re-installed the latest version of GSX. I must say I am very impressed and very pleased with the development of this program!

The De-Icers are a very nice addition to the services. although I have a comment about them.

The De-Icers are treating my wings from the training edge side. That is prohibited, as the fluid would be able to penetrate the wings more easily. Also, just aft of the leading edge is the most important part to de-ice. It is also mandatory to start at the wing tip and work your way down in a S-spray movement. so Leading edge to trailing edge, tip to root. only exceptions are the Anhedral wing aeroplanes. for example, the 146 Jumbolino would have the spray from the root to the tip.

Here is a video of the spray methode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8kvLwM6ESI

There are two methodes, ramp de-icing which is already modelled, and remote de-icing. where the aeroplane taxies to a remote platform and get the treatment there with the engines running. This is the preffered method because of the short hold-over times of the type 1 fluid, (which is the cheapest!)

Back in 2008-2009 it was my job to supervise the de-icing at Schiphol. It's nice to see this important feature in FSX


Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on January 25, 2016, 02:33:44 PM
The De-Icers are treating my wings from the training edge side.

They are made like that to overcome possible issue with other conflicting vehicles, since GSX vehicles don't have any awareness of other vehicle or each other.

Quote
remote platform and get the treatment there with the engines running. This is the preffered method because of the short hold-over times of the type 1 fluid, (which is the cheapest!)

Remote deicing pad are a feature which has been discussed and answered so many times on the forum, and it's planned for inclusion in a future version.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Ricovandijk on February 05, 2016, 10:03:36 AM

They are made like that to overcome possible issue with other conflicting vehicles, since GSX vehicles don't have any awareness of other vehicle or each other

No other vehicles are allowed on the platform while de-icing so that shouldn't be a problem


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: virtuali on February 05, 2016, 11:41:23 PM
No other vehicles are allowed on the platform while de-icing so that shouldn't be a problem

When we'll have remote de-icing, this might be true but, since at this time we only have deicing at the gate, it IS a problem nonetheless, so that's explains why things are done in a certain way.


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Timm Rehberg on January 02, 2020, 09:26:05 PM
Hi Umberto,

I was thinking about the remote de-icing option.
Is there no way of adding a ("virtual") parking position to a afcad and restrict this position then with only the option for de-icing (with the modification that the engines are running etc.)?

Regards,
Timm


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: louisgr on January 14, 2020, 04:48:27 PM
Hi

or would it be possible to just have a simple option to de-ice. This way, we could taxi to the de-icing pad and then call the option from the menu ?

many thanks

cheers

Louis


Title: Re: GSX 1.9 Update - De-Icers!
Post by: Timm Rehberg on January 15, 2020, 09:10:50 PM
All actions are currently restricted to a afcad position.