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Products Support => GSX Support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: Kosta on February 15, 2012, 07:45:17 am
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Even if uninstalled GSX, even when I reinstalled addon manager (my FSDT airports weren't working after GSX uninstall!!) I get now this?:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31158446/GSX%20Uninstall%20Problem.jpg
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Try to remove the fsdreamteam\GSX folder, if it's still there.
It's normal your other sceneries wouldn't work if you uninstall GSX, you need to either reinstall the sceneries OR the Stand-Alone Addon Manager.
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I have the same message about regenerating airport cache although my GSX is installed correctly I assume. I get this message everytime I launch FSX.
Is this supposed to be like that because I couldn't find anything in the manual about this.
Regards,
D'hertefelt Kevin
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I have the same message about regenerating airport cache although my GSX is installed correctly I assume. I get this message everytime I launch FSX.
Not normal, and shouldn't happen, it should happen only after you make a change to the Scenery Library.
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Found the culprit, just like you said, it's only when changes are applied to the Scenery Library. I was deselecting some airports of AES, so FSX has to regenerate the Scenery Library each time.
Thanks for the help!
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Try to remove the fsdreamteam\GSX folder, if it's still there.
It's normal your other sceneries wouldn't work if you uninstall GSX, you need to either reinstall the sceneries OR the Stand-Alone Addon Manager.
Did. Also the one in the couatl folder.
Now I opened my FSX, it said couatl update something, so I let it do it.
While it was doing, I noticed something with an GSX update, and now it's doing the same scenery cache thing...
And GSX is back to it's "working" state.
Why can't I remove the simple program I installed????
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Now I opened my FSX, it said couatl update something, so I let it do it.
You could have dismissed the update. The issue is, GSX has now replaced the ParkMe features that was integrated in the sceneries so, if you have the sceneries installed and do the Live update, it will restore GSX, since there's no reason why (being free) one could possibly want to keep the sceneries installed without GSX.
If the reason you uninstalled GSX was just because your sceneries stopped to work, that's not obviously a GSX problem but, something else in your system (antivirus, missing libraries, etc) that prevented the updated Addon Manager/Couatl to run so, removing GSX wouldn't fix that, because if you reinstall the sceneries, they will still download exactly the same version of the Addon Manager/Couatl programs that come with GSX so, the solution shouldn't be uninstalling GSX, but fixing your problem.
A solution to disable GSX and still be able to get updates, is:
- Open the file at %APPDATA%\VIRTUALI\Couatladdons.ini with Notepad
look the section [gsx], there should be several parameters related to timings like refueling time, etc. after the last one, add the following:
Disable=1
And save the modified file back.
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If the reason you uninstalled GSX was just because your sceneries stopped to work
You misunderstood:
1) installed GSX
2) unhappy (jetways)
3) uninstalled GSX from CP
4) KLAX not working (no buildings)
5) reinstalled standalone manager - buildings back
6) GSX updating although completely uninstalled
As I have AES, I hardly need ParkMe or something I think. I think GSX ParkMe is better, but I can't have it over AES if AES is activated on the scenery, right?
something else in your system (antivirus, missing libraries, etc) that prevented the updated Addon Manager/Couatl to run so, removing GSX wouldn't fix that, because if you reinstall the sceneries, they will still download exactly the same version of the Addon Manager/Couatl programs that come with GSX so,
So correct to understand - even without installing GSX, one would get GSX for ParkMe just through the update?
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I just want to have a situation I had BEFORE I installed GSX.
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As I have AES, I hardly need ParkMe or something I think. I think GSX ParkMe is better, but I can't have it over AES if AES is activated on the scenery, right?
That's not true, you can have different solution to use them together at the same airport (for example disable the GSX marshaller with the parking editor) or just disable just a single airport in GSX, without the need to remove it entirely.
So correct to understand - even without installing GSX, one would get GSX for ParkMe just through the update?
If you have the sceneries installed, or the GSX folder is still there, yes.
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I just want to have a situation I had BEFORE I installed GSX.
As I've said, dismiss the Live Update. OR, after uninstalling GSX, reinstall of the sceneries with the network disconnected, but then you might not get the most current version.
Note that GSX functions replacing the previous ParkMe will come automatically with every scenery, as it was for ParkMe before. The only way to really disable GSX and being able to use the most updated sceneries is as I've explained before with the .INI file.
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OK, I basically understand what you are telling me.
But just one simple question:
Why didn't I have any troubles before installation of GSX?
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OK, I basically understand what you are telling me
Sorry disregard my latest message, but I've double checked the Couatl updater and no, it updates GSX ONLY if it's already installed. Basically, if there's already a fsdreamteam\Couatl\GSX folder, and it's not empty.
Why didn't I have any troubles before installation of GSX?
As I've said, and I'll repeat it again, GSX is not the cause, the cause is that something in your system (antivirus, system libraries, etc) prevented the updated versions of the Addon Manager or Couatl files to run so, you would have encountered exactly the same problem even without installing GSX, but just reinstalling any scenery.
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OK, let's play this card:
There is no AV on my system active.
All updates are install, including all .NET and latest updates, and all other usual libraries.
Running this machine as Administrator.
So what can be wrong?
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And I tried running COUATL UPDATER from the FSDT folder, with GSX folder deleted, and the first thing it starts download is couatl_GSX.zip.
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So what can be wrong?
Reinstall GSX, better if you use the current installer, then enable the Simconnect diagnostic:
Open Notepad, and copy the following text:
[SimConnect]
level=normal
console=1
RedirectStdOutToConsole=1
OutputDebugString=1
; file=c:\simconnect%03u.log
; file_next_index=0
; file_max_index=9
Save the file as SIMCONNECT.INI in this folder:
Documents And Settings\YOUR LOGIN NAME\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator X Files
At the next FSX launch, you should see a text window with diagnostic messages: the FIRST 10 lines or so are important: you should try to note what they are saying. If the text scrolls too fast, use the Pause key on the keyboard.
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And I tried running COUATL UPDATER from the FSDT folder, with GSX folder deleted, and the first thing it starts download is couatl_GSX.zip.
Why don't you simply trust what I've said ? Fact that it *downloads* that file, doesn't necessarily mean it will INSTALL into the fsdreamteam\Couatl folder.
Check if you have the GSX folder. If you have, remove it. Then run the Couatl_Updater program, and see if you have a GSX folder after it runs.
Of course, all of this is valid assuming you have the *current* version of the Couatl_Updater, which is downloaded when you install GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager.
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So what can be wrong?
Reinstall GSX, better if you use the current installer, then enable the Simconnect diagnostic:
Done. I guess you are looking for this?
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It doesn't show any errors, does both menus appeared now ?
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And I tried running COUATL UPDATER from the FSDT folder, with GSX folder deleted, and the first thing it starts download is couatl_GSX.zip.
Why don't you simply trust what I've said ? Fact that it *downloads* that file, doesn't necessarily mean it will INSTALL into the fsdreamteam\Couatl folder.
Check if you have the GSX folder. If you have, remove it. Then run the Couatl_Updater program, and see if you have a GSX folder after it runs.
Of course, all of this is valid assuming you have the *current* version of the Couatl_Updater, which is downloaded when you install GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager.
I trust you, that's not the problem.
Yes, I removed the GSX folder, then I run the update, and after updater finished, GSX folder was back there.
I assume I have the latest version of the updater, since I already uninstalled and installed the one from your website.
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It doesn't show any errors, does both menus appeared now ?
My sim crashes just after that window. I can't get up to the menu. If I restore my simconnect file then all is back OK.
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My sim crashes just after that window. I can't get up to the menu. If I restore my simconnect file then all is back OK.
You mean it's enough for you to enable the Simconnect diagnostics, that FSX crashes ?
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My sim crashes just after that window. I can't get up to the menu. If I restore my simconnect file then all is back OK.
You mean it's enough for you to enable the Simconnect diagnostics, that FSX crashes ?
Yes, I don't know why it does that.
It also happens with FSX, if I switch to another window while FSX is booting up, it's going to crash. If I just don't push anything, all is OK. Since diagnostics is automatically pulling a window to a front, it causes the crash.
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Oh btw. something else I noticed:
Even if I uninstall GSX from CP, and I enter addon manager from inside FSX, I click on GSX and it says "Product installed, in trial mode".
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It also happens with FSX, if I switch to another window while FSX is booting up, it's going to crash. If I just don't push anything, all is OK. Since diagnostics is automatically pulling a window to a front, it causes the crash.
I hope you would understand that this doesn't have anything to do with any of our products, the Simconnect diganostic it's a basic FSX function that should always work.
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Yes, I do understand that - I didn't blame you once for that.
Let's come back to the problem of GSX not uninstalling correctly. See my prev post.
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Even if I uninstall GSX from CP, and I enter addon manager from inside FSX, I click on GSX and it says "Product installed, in trial mode".
That's entirely irrelevant, it will say Trial mode for any product that doesn't have a Serial number in the registry, and will say installed, because it's only something related to the sceneries.
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Okay.
So what about GSX folder being recreated through the updater even if I don't have GSX installed any more?
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Let's come back to the problem of GSX not uninstalling correctly. See my prev post.
That's not such thing as a "GSX not uninstalling correctly", because it obviously does.
The problem might be the Live Update that restores it, but that doesn't have anything to do with the GSX uninstall process, which is correct.
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So what about GSX folder being recreated through the updater even if I don't have GSX installed any more?
It shouldn't do that, perhaps there's a problem with the Live Updater that is online now.
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Okay, so why does the Live Update restore the GSX?
And now we are coming back to the option of disabling it...
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Have you actually *read* my last reply ?
It shouldn't do that, perhaps there's a problem with the Live Updater that is online now.
We have two mirrors to get the updater (installing GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager), which one to use is randomly selected when you start the installer, it's possible that *one* of the two mirrors was outdated, and when you ran the GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, you always got the wrong one, try it again, they are surely both updated now.
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Well, I lost patience, and I deleted everything I could find on VIRTUALI or FSDT.
Reinstalled my sceneries, things are back where they were.
Also the updater isn't creating GSX folder any more, which I guess was the broken file on your side.
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Also the updater isn't creating GSX folder any more, which I guess was the broken file on your side.
That's what I've said, one of the two mirrors was outdated, you were just unlucky to always get the same one (there's 50% chance to get one or the other)
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Reinstalled my sceneries, things are back where they were.
Which means the *current* version of the Couatl and Addon Manager files WORKS on your system now, since if you ran all the scenery installers now, they downloaded exactly the same version from exactly the same place.
Which means, GSX was never a problem to begin with, and it will surely work now.
Of course, the fact you can't even enable Simconnect diagnostics makes your FSX crashing, is probably a symptom something else is wrong with your FSX install.
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Also the updater isn't creating GSX folder any more, which I guess was the broken file on your side.
That's what I've said, one of the two mirrors was outdated, you were just unlucky to always get the same one (there's 50% chance to get one or the other)
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks for your help.
Thanks to your report too, because without it, I might never noticed having an outdated file on one of the servers
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Quite. But I installed by sceneries offline - I have no patience to wait for each scenery to download... and installed latest addon manager which I downloaded just minutes ago.
That worked well.
I now understand that GSX wasn't a culprit, but rather the addon manager. But still, not an error on my side.
About Simconnect - I know, I have been looking for the error for the long long time, even reinstalled FSX couple of times with all my oh about 100 sceneries and aircraft, and still can't find what's causing it. As said, it happens when I click on the 2nd window while FSX is booting. Living with it.
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I now understand that GSX wasn't a culprit, but rather the addon manager. But still, not an error on my side.
Nobody said you ever made an error, but I can't see how this could be an Addon Manager problem, since your last log showed that both the latest Addon Manager and the latest Couatl were being loaded without errors. Yes FSX crashed then, but that's because of the diagnostic window.
And, installing the Addon Manager at the end didn't cause any problems.
The Addon Manager hasn't been updated for several weeks, the current version dates before GSX was released, and it's still the same.
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I'm gonna go to bed now, the fact stands that the updated addon manager/couatl, whatever it was, fixed the reappearing of GSX with the couatl updater. That's all I was after.
Reappearing of that caused the ctrl + f12 to work in FSX again, and if I would then choose a gate, an error would pop up since GSX has been uninstalled in CP.
But I don't have any more patience to play around with this - my sceneries are working again, gsx doesn't start up with ctrl + f12, and maybe some of these days, I might install GSX again to test it with AES. I had a problem of disappearing vehicles coming to my aircraft when AES was enabled for the airport.
All I ever wanted is nice animations of vehicles and gate control of AES.
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I might install GSX again to test it with AES. I had a problem of disappearing vehicles coming to my aircraft when AES was enabled for the airport.
That's not a GSX problem, it's something made by a later version of FSUIPC, which removes all vehicles (including GSX ones) from a parking, to help AES.
FSUIPC is being updated (hopefully soon) to recognize GSX vehicles and not remove them, but in the meantime there's an alternate solution, see this post on Avsim from Pete Dowson:
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/361500-aerosoft-aes-vs-fsdreamteam-gsx/page__st__25__p__2247142#entry2247142
All I ever wanted is nice animations of vehicles and gate control of AES.
You surely can, with some juggling, there are several users in this forum that use them together, even at the same airport, just ask around, I'm sure they'll help.
Bruce Hamilton, for example, posted here seveal suggestions how to use both products together.