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Developer's Backdoor => GSX Backdoor => Topic started by: Aviationation on January 20, 2012, 07:49:23 pm

Title: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Aviationation on January 20, 2012, 07:49:23 pm
I mean its been a while, the videos said it would come out 2011 and its 2012 now :/
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: space_coast on January 20, 2012, 08:13:56 pm
It's in beta-testing since December I believe, so I hope that it will be released really really soon, it's already the third week in 2012 so I hope it will not take that long.....
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: ottoramsaig on January 20, 2012, 08:45:23 pm
For real.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Aviationation on January 20, 2012, 09:18:47 pm
at least release the beta
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: space_coast on January 20, 2012, 09:36:52 pm
Would be great when GSX would be released this weekend, but I don't think so..... :-(
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 21, 2012, 03:18:29 pm
at least release the beta

Beta copies are released by unscrupulous people who sign up to beta test with that intention, not developers.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: theshack440 on January 21, 2012, 04:30:55 pm
Hopefully it'll be out in the next couple of days, but it's really whatever it takes to be set for release. I think developers (especially FS devs) resent when people ask for release dates when there has never been one set.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: blk137 on January 22, 2012, 11:12:16 pm
they say its very close to finishing so im expecting it to be out by next or week or the week after.

Blake
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 23, 2012, 12:45:15 am
And exactly who is they?  It'll be released when it's finished, Umberto has not indicated it will be released next week or the week after.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: PUP4ORD on January 23, 2012, 04:31:24 am
Some people just don't know how to wait :P When GSX is finished then it will be out.......
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: ottoramsaig on January 23, 2012, 02:33:47 pm
 For the FSDream to announce a release date for 2011 and still have not released it yet (23 days late) is somewhat irresponsible.  I had some money earmarked for this product as part of my reward to myself for giving everyone else a decent Christmas.  GSX was going to be my Christmas gift I have patiently waited since YOUR announcement on release dates.  All I see are folks trying to get information and handed the same old lines from other “Customers”  .  Poor Business missing a deadline. 

Please: I don't need comments about betta testing or "it will be released when ready" (Really?)
Seems like it is nothing more than a publicity stunt. I would never give one of my customers a dilivery date and still have them wait 23 days.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: virtuali on January 23, 2012, 03:11:56 pm
For the FSDream to announce a release date for 2011

This date was announced in March 2011, 10 months ago , you can't except it being very precise it. Release dates more exact are being missed by companies much larger than we are, all the time.

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and still have not released it yet (23 days late) is somewhat irresponsible

On the contrary, we believe that having missed it by JUST 23 days (or even a month) to be very good, considering that in 10 months, many things change, users suggests new features, unexpected bugs comes out, new 3rd party product we need to interface with come out, etc.

An easy example: we added specific support for several 3rd party airplanes that use non-standard doors commands, which was something we realized it was needed only very recently, while testing.

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All I see are folks trying to get information and handed the same old lines from other “Customers”  .  Poor Business missing a deadline.

I find the usage of double quotes around "Customers" a bit offensive to other fellow customers, that are just as legit in their opinions as you are. Or, you are labeling them as somewhat fake or not proper customers, just because they don't agree with your view ?

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Please: I don't need comments about betta testing or "it will be released when ready" (Really?)

So, you'd rather prefer something like "We'll release it in its current state, to paying customers that will act as paying testers" ?

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I would never give one of my customers a dilivery date and still have them wait 23 days.

Which is why we never gave an exact deliver date, but a general time frame, which couldn't be as vague as it was.

Some usually say "4th quarter", and then usuall miss by a couple of months, "in 2011" it's even more generic than specifying a quarter, it was just wrong to read it as "absolutely before Dec. 31th 2011", which would have been really impossible to anticipate, in March 2011 when we released the first video.

I'll repeat it again, the product will be released when it's finished and properly tested, not before.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bakern on January 23, 2012, 04:26:09 pm
I had some money earmarked for this product as part of my reward to myself for giving everyone else a decent Christmas.  GSX was going to be my Christmas gift


Then you have 11 months of waiting in front of you......... ;)

Cheers
Stein-Ove
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: blk137 on January 23, 2012, 04:52:04 pm
And exactly who is they?  It'll be released when it's finished, Umberto has not indicated it will be released next week or the week after.
its common sense m8 were on the fsdt forum so its fsdt ?
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 23, 2012, 05:13:05 pm
its common sense m8 were on the fsdt forum so its fsdt ?

All you've been told officially is that GSX is in beta testing and will be released when it's ready, nothing was said about next week or the week after.  When it's ready!
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: blk137 on January 23, 2012, 05:47:42 pm
its common sense m8 were on the fsdt forum so its fsdt ?

All you've been told officially is that GSX is in beta testing and will be released when it's ready, nothing was said about next week or the week after.  When it's ready!
thats my opinion, and i dont want anymore comments from you,ive seen posts in the past and your very grumpy! your forum picture shows it all.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Anders Bermann on January 23, 2012, 06:06:56 pm
I honestly don't think, he's grumpy! At least his picture doesn't show that...

I just think, he's tired of reading people asking the same questions on and on, regarding release dates etc, of upcoming products... knowing that they will receive the same answers...
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: blk137 on January 23, 2012, 06:22:17 pm
well why does he comment then? and yes he is grumpy if youve read some of his posts. people on this forum that are grumpy do not scare me, i just laugh along with all my mates
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: ottoramsaig on January 23, 2012, 07:23:07 pm
Too Funny:)
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Scoobe on January 23, 2012, 07:36:24 pm
I take this enthusasim as a good sign. If no one was asking "when will it be out?" that would be bad. The fact that people are waiting for it to come out, means there is a big demand for it. I check this site everyday now for any info and I usually never do that. I think this will be a very successfly product for FSDT and wish them the best.  I have most FSDT products and they are second to none! I cant wait for this one.  ;D

Rob
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: ottoramsaig on January 23, 2012, 10:06:05 pm
well why does he comment then? and yes he is grumpy if youve read some of his posts. people on this forum that are grumpy do not scare me, i just laugh along with all my mates

Agreed. There is no point on certain people trashing or bitching about a customer's request.  FSDreamTeam answered my questions and I am satisfied.
Its Ready when its Ready is something I would hear from my parents and I didn’t like it then either.
 :)
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: windshear on January 23, 2012, 10:07:49 pm
I Think People are just really eager to get their hands on the product! Everyone will want it when it's out! Be it in 1 or 6  months or whatever!
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: aircanadajet on January 23, 2012, 10:42:36 pm
Alright guys, I've been told GSX is being tested at the moment and its requiring some fine tuning before it can be release. At the moment the pre-release version is being tested by a selected number of beta testers. The test phase can be lenghty and frustrating for some, especially those waiting to get hands on GSX. I am also being told that this addition to FSX will in fact change the way you see or play the simulator completly. It is in fact an add-on that will make you want to stay grounded for longer periods of time. The exact day of the release is being discussed at the moment, as far as an exact date, that can not be disclose as it is a process that can only be managed by the rule of thumbs. More to come soon!
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 24, 2012, 03:10:29 pm
thats my opinion, and i dont want anymore comments from you,ive seen posts in the past and your very grumpy! your forum picture shows it all.

You want some cheese to go with your whine?
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: blk137 on January 24, 2012, 05:01:38 pm
thats my opinion, and i dont want anymore comments from you,ive seen posts in the past and your very grumpy! your forum picture shows it all.

You want some cheese to go with your whine?
yes please
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: PUP4ORD on January 25, 2012, 07:30:13 am
Tis tis, We all enjoy going around in circles........Better yet in holding pattern about GSX. :P It will be ready when everything has been made "bug" free......
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: D_mitris on January 27, 2012, 07:40:36 pm
So Bruce... What is it exactly that you do here?  

It seems lately your on some kind of personal rampage against people who are just eager to see GSX released.

Most of us have 100's of dollars or euros invested in FSDT products and are just anxious to take the feature out for a spin.   I personally never really liked AES and how that was implemented so I am ready for a new approach.

The "You want some cheese with that whine" was so juvenile.  
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 28, 2012, 02:51:43 pm
So Bruce... What is it exactly that you do here?

I irritate n00bs with nothing better to do than take pot shots at me.   ;D
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: D_mitris on January 28, 2012, 07:45:30 pm
I'm starting to think that isn't you in the picture.   Never heard anyone use "noobs" in their vocabulary that looked like you.
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on January 28, 2012, 08:22:07 pm
You can think what you want...
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Anders Bermann on January 28, 2012, 10:38:06 pm
LOL  ;D

You gotta love this place!!  8)
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: dsflyerds on January 28, 2012, 11:26:06 pm
I'm starting to think that isn't you in the picture.   Never heard anyone use "noobs" in their vocabulary that looked like you.
You should know by now Bruce is a very popular fellow in the FlightSim Community, he is active on every forum imaginable. And for someone who has talked with him over TeamSpeak I can confirm that its him. BTW this topic is way off track now. Bruce and GSX coming out have nothing to do with each other.  :P
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: theshack440 on January 28, 2012, 11:38:03 pm
LOL  ;D

You gotta love this place!!  8)

We're getting to avsim level...
Title: Re: Sooooo... when Gsx coming out?
Post by: Johan on January 28, 2012, 11:53:06 pm
So Bruce... What is it exactly that you do here?

I irritate n00bs with nothing better to do than take pot shots at me.   ;D

I like the way Bruce spells "n00bs" ... not with small "o" or capital "O", but with zeros "0"...very clever if it was done on purpose...