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Title: Understanding the radar
Post by: ryanbatcund on October 29, 2007, 03:26:58 am
Very neat addition...  the radar is probably overlooked by a lot of people, but it is very detailed, for an FS addon hehe

I have a few questions about the buttons.  I labeled them on this image.  I already know what 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10 do.

I sorta figured out what 6 and 7 do, but not exactly how they do it... 

what does button 3 do?

I need some help with the radar symbolgy...  What do the numbers when I ID a target mean?  0.4 and 9?  does that mean 4000ft and 90 kts?  what about the numbers on the side of the radar mfd?  30.1?

I like how you can change the azimuth of the radar sweep, that is sooooo awesome!

Thanks for any tips! (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/tagup.jpg)
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: ILove2Fly on October 29, 2007, 05:57:31 am
Ryan, for those of us, like me, could you put up that screen shot again but with a detailed description of all the buttons that you labeled that you know what they do?  It would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks.  Paul
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: ryanbatcund on October 29, 2007, 03:20:32 pm
Sure!

1 = menu, access to the other screens
2 = radar sweep azimuth (angle in degrees, watch the vertical bar sweep left and right when you change it)
3 = I dont know yet
4 = increase radar range
5 = decrease ""
6 = not sure, but somehow it locks the nearest target
7 = same but in the opposite order I think
8 = contrast, drag it with the mouse button (hold it down)
9 = brightness ""
10 = day/auto/night mode, quick change for brightness levels, click and drag
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: ILove2Fly on October 29, 2007, 06:29:38 pm
Excellent!  Thanks a bunch Ryan.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: virtuali on October 29, 2007, 08:13:32 pm
I sorta figured out what 6 and 7 do, but not exactly how they do it...

They lock to the next visible target, in up or down direction.


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what does button 3 do?

In the real radar, it changes the vertical sweep pattern of the antenna. Here's it's just for cosmetic purposes...


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I need some help with the radar symbolgy...  What do the numbers when I ID a target mean?  0.4 and 9?  does that mean 4000ft and 90 kts?

Nope. Left number is Mach N. of the target, right number is absolute target altitude in thousands of feet. In this case, it was flying at Mach 0.4, at 9000 feets.


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what about the numbers on the side of the radar mfd?  30.1?

That was reading -30.1. It's the altitude *differential* from the target, in thousands of feets. Since you were flying at 39000 feets and the target was at 9000, the differential was -30100, negative numbers indicates the target is below you.

Also, note the caret range symbol > on the right side of the screen, It's a visual representation of the target range, relative to the current scale. So, in this example, since you had the range set a 40, and the range symbol was slightly more than half screen, it was indicatin the target was at about 22 nm from you.

Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: ryanbatcund on October 30, 2007, 04:24:23 am
AWESOME!  8)

Thanks, I love that radar!
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: nxconvict on November 24, 2007, 07:32:13 am
yes thanks for the Q&A's
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: BlakTiger47 on November 29, 2007, 03:39:51 pm
Yeah really thanks i never would have even seen there was a radar if u guys hadnt talked about it. this forum has shown me alot of stuff i wouldnt have noticed. i have another question though. what does the RWS button and the button with (^in that picture^) M 1.1 above it mean?
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: chupaflier on January 01, 2008, 01:19:31 am
Help on the button you labeled #3

It is similar to the azimuth control but vertically: in other words, it increases the area scanned by the radar antenna in the vertical direction. It reads 1B because that is the default setting(1 Bar) but you can go up to 6 Bars, which you may have to do if you are tracking a target that is too high or too low from you aircraft's nose.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: virtuali on January 01, 2008, 02:16:41 am
what does the RWS button and the button with (^in that picture^) M 1.1 above it mean?

The RWS it's just an indication of the radar mode (Range While Scan), it's the only mode we simulated so, it's not a button (it it was, it would have been a vertical label in that position), just a static text label.

The M 1.1 on the lower left, it's the Mach you are flying at.

The button labeled with "3" that shows 1B it's the beam vertical pattern selection. It can change, but we don't simulate the effect internally, so it's there just for completeness sake.

Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: chupaflier on January 23, 2008, 09:16:14 am
Virtualy:

Any word on implementing TWS(track while scan) radar mode? That is really useful when "meeting" friends in the air as it would allow the pilot to track the  leader pf the pack you intend to join while still scanning the rest airplanes in the flight group.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: virtuali on January 23, 2008, 12:54:36 pm
I would like to remind to everyone, that any possible patch or improvement to any part of Acceleration, has to be decided and approved by Microsoft, as they see fit.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: chupaflier on January 23, 2008, 11:31:16 pm
Referring to the picture posted above of the radar MFD I have some questions.
There are two carets( a "<" and a ">" ) on either side of the big square that encompasses the radar.

Here is how I understand the one on the right: I think I'm right but please read and correct me.
It indicates the range to target according to the selected radar range which is set with buttons 4 and 5. In this picture, range is set at 40, so since the caret is positioned slightly above the grid line that marks the half of the radar otter line, it would indicate the target to be at a bit more than 20 miles away.

Left side:
I'm lost here. The caret is positioned exactly next to the grid line indicating half of the radar range but it has a "30.1" number on it. What is that value?  ???
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: virtuali on January 23, 2008, 11:36:02 pm
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ìI'm lost here. The caret is positioned exactly next to the grid line indicating half of the radar range but it has a "30.1" number on it. What is that value?  ???

Already replied above:

That was reading -30.1. It's the altitude *differential* from the target, in thousands of feets. Since you were flying at 39000 feets and the target was at 9000, the differential was -30100, negative numbers indicates the target is below you.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: fael097 on March 10, 2008, 02:41:43 am
btw whats the '040' just below the 1b?
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: virtuali on March 10, 2008, 02:23:27 pm
btw whats the '040' just below the 1b?

Target Heading
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: Razgriz on March 13, 2008, 09:54:43 pm
Sure!

1 = menu, access to the other screens
2 = radar sweep azimuth (angle in degrees, watch the vertical bar sweep left and right when you change it)
3 = I dont know yet
4 = increase radar range
5 = decrease ""
6 = not sure, but somehow it locks the nearest target
7 = same but in the opposite order I think

8 = contrast, drag it with the mouse button (hold it down)
9 = brightness ""
10 = day/auto/night mode, quick change for brightness levels, click and drag

Those two mean Target UP and Target DOWN
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: Yahuu33 on March 15, 2008, 11:30:56 pm
what do i have to do to get the radar working....it shows nothing,no targets just some lines....thx
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: fael097 on March 16, 2008, 12:31:13 am
you have to find another plane maybe
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: BlakTiger47 on March 18, 2008, 10:04:41 pm
I would advise settin your traffic settings up. then just look for a plane in the sky and if u dont see it on radar try toggling the range higher if its farther away or lower if its closer.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: Razgriz on March 19, 2008, 02:36:46 am
Boats are easy prey..  :)
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: SUBS17 on March 24, 2008, 11:42:00 pm
Try it online but be aware ATC people don't like Hornets tracking civ aircraft on intercept courses ;D.
Title: Re: Understanding the radar
Post by: Bullseye on July 04, 2008, 08:52:16 pm
Sure!

1 = menu, access to the other screens
2 = radar sweep azimuth (angle in degrees, watch the vertical bar sweep left and right when you change it)
3 = I dont know yet
4 = increase radar range
5 = decrease ""
6 = not sure, but somehow it locks the nearest target
7 = same but in the opposite order I think

8 = contrast, drag it with the mouse button (hold it down)
9 = brightness ""
10 = day/auto/night mode, quick change for brightness levels, click and drag

I'm not sure..but when have selected a target(In real world, little shame not with FSX acc Hornet) You can sort of 'attatch' the target to the FLIR monitor :) Or is this possible with Acc Hornet?