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Products Support => Chicago O'Hare for FSX/P3D => Topic started by: Papagiorgio on November 27, 2011, 05:29:31 pm

Title: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on November 27, 2011, 05:29:31 pm
Installed the update yesterday and everything was fiine.  Today I fired t up and no buildings or terminals, just the jetways.  Checked my settings and nothing has changed.  I closed FSX and started it up again still, no terminals.

FSX, Vista Home Premium, 32bits.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 27, 2011, 07:01:07 pm
The usual question:

- Do you see the Addon Manager menu AND the Couatl powered products menu under the Addons menu ?
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on November 27, 2011, 08:19:28 pm
Couatl is not under the addon menu.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 27, 2011, 08:23:30 pm
It's likely you antivirus has mistakenly identified it as a threat, blocking it.

- Uninstall the scenery. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.

- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface, but turn off the real time protection. Actual wording changes between products, however, it's the option to scan every file that gets open in real time, without user intervention.

- Reinstall the sceneries with the Antivirus TURNED OFF. Don't launch FSX yet.

- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:

YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\couatl.exe

YourFSXFolder it's usually C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X, if you installed it in the default folder.

- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX.

- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND the "Couatl powered products" menu under the "Addons" menu
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on November 28, 2011, 02:46:15 am
That fixed it, THANKS:)
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: JerdooFlightX on November 28, 2011, 08:57:50 pm
It's likely you antivirus has mistakenly identified it as a threat, blocking it.

- Uninstall the scenery. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.

- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface, but turn off the real time protection. Actual wording changes between products, however, it's the option to scan every file that gets open in real time, without user intervention.

- Reinstall the sceneries with the Antivirus TURNED OFF. Don't launch FSX yet.

- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:

YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\couatl.exe

YourFSXFolder it's usually C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X, if you installed it in the default folder.

- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX.

- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND the "Couatl powered products" menu under the "Addons" menu


Hi,

I got everything installed and see both the add on manager and couatl ...
No buildings though when using fsrecorder in playback ...

What to do ...

Thanks in advance!

Regards
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2011, 08:59:52 pm
I got everything installed and see both the add on manager and couatl ...No buildings though when using fsrecorder in playback ...

That's an entirely different issue, which doesn't have anything to do with the "no buildings" problem.

All our sceneries never show any buildings during instant replay, it was like this since years. It's nothing we can fix, it's just that the instant replay doesn't show objects created with Simconnect commands.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: JerdooFlightX on November 28, 2011, 09:05:52 pm
uhm ... I have created a few video's using your product
... so I guess they do work using fsrecorder but when using chicago i only see the gates, no terminals
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: JerdooFlightX on November 28, 2011, 09:26:17 pm
it's something else, when the plane nears the airport the buildings appear ... lol ...
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2011, 09:56:38 pm
it's something else, when the plane nears the airport the buildings appear ... lol ...

It's possible you mistakenly activated the "XP compatibility mode" for FSX in Windows 7 ? If yes, turn it off, because it might create that problem.

Also, what zoom setting are you using ? Too wide, will make buildings disappear, because LOD levels are tied to the zoom setting.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 28, 2011, 09:58:11 pm
so I guess they do work using fsrecorder but when using chicago i only see the gates, no terminals

I was referring to the default FSX Instant Replay, that won't surely work.

It was common knowledge that FS Recorder didn't had this issue but, since it has been a while since I've tested it, and you said they didn't work in FS Recorder, I assumed something must have changed in the meantime.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: JerdooFlightX on November 29, 2011, 10:32:10 am
Thanks for the reply.

I got it working ... i noticed that when i near the aiport that the buildings appear again, this will not be a problem for me because i can create a video this way. I noticed that when going away from the airport using EZDok that indeed things dissapear, this happens with a lot of scenery's which i guess is a common thing ...
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on November 29, 2011, 11:28:40 am
I noticed that when going away from the airport using EZDok that indeed things dissapear, this happens with a lot of scenery's which i guess is a common thing

That's another entirely different thing, EZDok probably sets the eye position coordinates, instead of the airplane position coordinates, that the scenery compares against to set it's visibility ranges.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Drumcode on December 20, 2011, 02:42:05 am
I have the same problem, no buildings after activation, I see both items in the menu. Fresh OS, FSX install, ORD is the first scenery install since the PC reconfiguration.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on December 20, 2011, 01:51:27 pm
I have the same problem, no buildings after activation, I see both items in the menu. Fresh OS, FSX install, ORD is the first scenery install since the PC reconfiguration.

What do you mean with "same problem" ? The problem discussed here ended up with building missing when using a far away camera in the EZDok program, is this what you are referring to ?

If you have both Addon Manager+Couatl menus in FSX, and your scenery is the current version, it's just not possible you won't see its buildings. If you don't, it means something is not updated.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Drumcode on December 20, 2011, 04:40:41 pm
Bizarre, I couldn't get it to work yesterday, it works all good this morning.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: lizardmon on December 27, 2011, 08:02:22 pm
Hey there I have the same problem of buildings not showing up after the update. I flew into O'hare just before Christmas after installing the update when I bought LAX. When I landed there were no buildings only the jetways. The next day I flew out of there and and when FSX loaded it loaded the section of the terminal right in from of me and all of the jetways but not the rest of the terminal. I checked and I have both of the utilities you mentioned in previous posts. I have a screen shot of the problem but I can't figure out how to upload it. I was also running several add ons including AES, Flytampa Midway, VOX ATC and Integrated Sim Avionics.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on February 06, 2012, 08:38:19 pm
I just installed GFX and everything  was fine.  I have KORD and KLAS.  Today I fired it up and my buildings were missing again. The Couatl is missing from my menu.  When I had this trouble before, I fixed it following your advise.
When you say "uninstall the scenery", do you mean uninstall both KORD and KLAS from control panel and then reinstall them?
When I installed GSX yesterday, I had the Couatl engine in  my Addon menu.

Thanks
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on February 06, 2012, 08:56:20 pm
There shouldn't be any need to uninstall the scenery, just install GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager after the scenery, and if you have to reinstall the scenery for any reason, reinstall GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager after the scenery.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on February 07, 2012, 09:56:44 pm
I must of screwed up somewere.  I turned off my firewall and instructed it to allow Couatl.  Tried to install GSX again and kept getting error messages that it could not replace certain files.  Alut.dll is one of them, I don't remember the other ones.  I wound up uninstalling GSX, KORD and KLAS. Iwas asked if I wanted to uninstall Couatl and the Addon Manager and answered yes. I reinstalled them and fired up FSX, the new scenery files loaded but I got an error message that KLAS was outdated and I should install the stand alone Addon Manager.  I thought that Kord2.0 was updated with that.  Installed the Addon Manager and fired up FSX again.  Now I have the Couatl engine back in my Addon Manager and I have my buildings back.  But now I get the green text above my screen that it is loading GSX?  I had uninstalled it, how could it be loading?  Never the less I waited for it to do its thing and I pressed crtl+F12, pressed the gate I wanted an the I was presented with the option if I wanted a follow me truck or not.  No matter which option I pressed, the error message said GSX was shutting down and I should install the stand alone AddonManager.

Are you still with me?   Ireinstalled GSX but kept getting the error messages that it could not replace file so I chose to ignore.  Now I don't have Couatl nor my buildings.  I'm totaly lost now. What do you suggest I do?

Thanks,

Papagiorgio
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on February 07, 2012, 10:22:06 pm
I must of screwed up somewere.  I turned off my firewall and instructed it to allow Couatl.  Tried to install GSX again and kept getting error messages that it could not replace certain files.  Alut.dll is one of them

This because you launched the installer too quickly without allowing FSX to close properly. A Windows reboot followed by a reinstall of either GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager will fix this.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on February 08, 2012, 06:31:14 pm
I redid it last night and got everything working.  every step you mentioned.  I fired it up today and guess what?  No Couatl and no buildings.  I checked my Norton, and it is allowing Couatl. Now what?

George
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: virtuali on February 08, 2012, 06:52:27 pm
If the programs worked yesterday, and you haven't update them, it's fairly obvious it can't depend from them, they surely don't self-modify and they don't self-update if you don't launch the updater, and we surely haven't changed neither the Addon Manager.dll nor the Couatl.exe file, so even if you did launch the Live Update, it would have downloaded exactly the same version which was online yesterday.

So no, what you are describing can't happen, must be something external, most likely the antivirus, it wouldn't be the first time we heard of antivirus products so bugged, they even block programs that you explicitly allowed, without giving any notice.

I can only suggest to switch to a more reliable antivirus, like the free MS Security Essentials, which doesn't mistakenly detect our software as a threat to begin with, without requiring any configuration.
Title: Re: buuildings not showing after update
Post by: Papagiorgio on February 10, 2012, 03:49:57 am
today it all came back.  I just rebooted my machine.  Molto buono.

Papagiorgio