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Products Support => Los Angeles support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: pcubine on September 20, 2011, 03:31:25 pm
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Umberto
I have attached three screenshots from a 13 hour EDDF-KLAX flight in the PMDG-11 from yesterday. Simulation rate was normal so there is no time compression. On a shorter flight KLAS-KLAX and KLAX-KLAX everything appeared normal. Any ideas?
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Looks like video memory corrupted, probably because of the long flight with a complex airplane, there might be a memory leak somewhere. Do you have the HIGHMEMFIX tweak applied ?
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Umberto
Yes. HIGHMEMFIX is in the fsx cfg file. Plus the file was tweaked by the Jesus Bojote website. Sorry I don't have a link on this computer and I have a full windowed flight going on the computer that has the link. Sometimes I also have objects in the sky at KDFW like in image 1 and 2 when completeing a EDDF-KDFW.flight. I fly from either EHAM, EDDF, EDDM to KLAX, KSFO,and KSEA using either the MD-11 or MD-11F every other day. Flightbeam KSFO has never had objects likes this. What can you say about KSEA in ORBX PNW. You have to be ready for anything at KSEA like shrubs on the taxiways and tarmac.
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It's very difficult to say how this could be fixed, especially if it's happening only on long flights, the memory leak could be anywhere, I'm afraid we simply must accept the fact that video drivers might have bugs, FSX surely have unknown bugs, or the airplane and all the sceneries and addons together might just be too much for it.
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Umberto
To sum it up I could say "It Is What It Is".
Thanks
Michael Cubine
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To sum it up I could say "It Is What It Is".
I'm afraid to, to lessen the chance of these things happening, you can turn down a bit your settings. For example, on a long flight, you might turn down Scenery Complexity and Autogen, which surely are not needed during cruise, to give less chances to exhaust memory.
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Umberto
I have turned down Autogen and Complexity from Very Dense to Dense and maybe did something about memory leaks by contacting the guy that built this computer. He logedon to the computer and ran a program to deal with memory leaks. I will let you know how it turns out Thursday morning after a EHAM-KLAX flight.
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
No change from the previous flight from EDDF. As you can see I set the scenery complexity back to very dense. The next time I will try it at dense. Prior to EHAM-KLAX in the MD-11, I did a KORD-KLAX in the CS 752-200 and everything a KLAX appeared normal. I have attached an image of the Scenery Settings for your review. If you see any item that could be reduced or is incorrect let me know.
Thank you
Michael Cubine
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Prior to EHAM-KLAX in the MD-11, I did a KORD-KLAX in the CS 752-200 and everything a KLAX appeared normal.
That alone would be enough reason to discount a problem with the airport. A setting that would probably save lots of memory is the "Level of detail radius", try Medium.
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Umberto
Unfortunately I have done a lot of short flights into KLAX and was going to report on those but KLAX 1.1 update has pretty much made that useless. I am on a EDDM-KLAX flight right now with the three scenery setting changes you have mentioned in previous posts, I will let you know what happens.
In uninstalling KLAX 1.0, do any folders or files need to be deleted after uninstalling KLAX 1.0 by using the Control Panel>Programs and Features?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
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In uninstalling KLAX 1.0, do any folders or files need to be deleted after uninstalling KLAX 1.0 by using the Control Panel>Programs and Features?
Normally not, unless you added some files yourself to that folder, in that case the folder will not be removed.
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Umberto
EDDM-KLAX was completely a night flight. There were no approach lights to any of the runways on a westerly approach. The taxiways were nonexistent when I tried to go from E to C via S. I tried to get them to appear by doing what I have done at KDFW when I have had problems with the scenery. Press the Esc button and then click on continue flying in the dialogue box. This time the screen went black except for the 2D panel. I have attached a screenshot I made at KTPA about six months ago. This was what it looked like at KLAX. I have also attached a screenshot of the MD-11 on 01L at KTPA from the same flight. This shot is just for laughs.
I installed 1.1 and am doing at PANC-KLAX in the PMDG 737-800. The flight started in the afternoon and will end at night. If anything unusual occurs a KLAX I will let you know.
Thank you
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
PANC-KLAX resulted in g3d.dll CTD a little over half distance. Probably overtop of KSEA and ORBX PNW. So I did a KLAX-KLAX in the PMDG 737-800. Approach lights were okay but look at the taxiway color in the first screenshot and no terminals in the second screenshot. How about uninstall KLAX 1.1 and answer yes to remove Addon Manager and Couatl during the uninstall process (which I didnot do when uninstalling KLAX 1.0) then install Addon Manager and KLAX 1.1. Any ideas?
Michael Cubine
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PANC-KLAX resulted in g3d.dll CTD a little over half distance. Probably overtop of KSEA and ORBX PNW.
I know a lot of people have had g3d.dll crashed over the ORBX PNW, me not included, but its been will documented. They said they are working on getting rid of all those calls that are looking for non-existing models and textures, but to be honest, I dont know if that would help and doesn't explain why I, who has a crappy rig by todays standards, never gets any crashes in the PNW. Personally I think it has more to do with people using too many HD 2048 or 4096 textures and putting their sliders to high and overloading their computers, even if they have new equipment.
So I did a KLAX-KLAX in the PMDG 737-800.
LAX to LAX? That's a short flight.
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Was just checking the forums before I hit the sack for the night and noticed your flight; PANC (Sim Wings) to KLAS (FSDT). I did this flight this morning and had no problems using the PMDG NGX.
Wish I could help but just wanted to say it went off without a hitch.
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Was just checking the forums before I hit the sack for the night and noticed your flight; PANC (Sim Wings) to KLAS (FSDT). I did this flight this morning and had no problems using the PMDG NGX.
Wish I could help but just wanted to say it went off without a hitch.
Stickman
PANC was Aerosoft and do you have ORBX PNW installed?
Thanks
Michael Cubine
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How about uninstall KLAX 1.1 and answer yes to remove Addon Manager and Couatl during the uninstall process (which I didnot do when uninstalling KLAX 1.0) then install Addon Manager and KLAX 1.1. Any ideas?
Why are you keep wasting time reinstalling/uninstalling KLAX, when your previous message finally proven that KLAX didn't have anything to do with this, and yours is a video card/driver issue, as your screenshot of messed up textures at KTPA clearly indicates ?
Just to be clear: KLAX, Couatl and the Addon Manager don't have ANY effect on other scenery, they don't change ANY of the default FSX files, the ONLY modification they do to the FSX.CFG, is enabling 4096x4096 textures in the installation, but you can revert it easily with the Addon Manager (of course KLAX will look blurred)
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Umberto
Seems to me I went thru issues about 13 months ago with KDFW and that was on a different computer with a NVIDIA 285 GTX card. See this thread http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=3403.0. A lot of setting changes in FSX and the NVIDIA Control Panel trying to get the green covering off of the runways. Nothing solved the issue until KDFW 2.0 was installed. I believe I read in several threads in the FSDT Forums that KDFW and KLAX employed a new method of building an airport. Maybe that method in combination with some addon or addons and NVIADA card don't work well together. I have had no issues with other FSDT airports such as KLAS, KFLL, KORD, and KJFK. Zurich I don't know about. I could care less if works or not. I will use it about as much as Imagine KCLT and KMCI - which is never.
The night screenshots are no big deal since I only use it during the daytime or early evening for flights from or to
Europe. All U.S. domestic flights either arrive or depart in the day.
I believe there were about 4 updates to KDFW before version 2.0. I will see what the future brings. In the meantime I will use KSFO.
Thanks
Michael Cubine
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Seems to me I went thru issues about 13 months ago with KDFW and that was on a different computer with a NVIDIA 285 GTX card. See this thread http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=3403.0. A lot of setting changes in FSX and the NVIDIA Control Panel trying to get the green covering off of the runways. Nothing solved the issue until KDFW 2.0 was installed
That thread is referring to an entirely different problem, which doesn't have anything to do with this one, in that thread, you had a problem of image quality because you didn't have the Anisotropic filtering on, and you said at the end that you fixed it by enabling it, even before KDFW 2.0 was released, this is your last message of that thread:
Success at last. I tried a lot of different things with no luck. But here is the solution that worked. nDivia Control Panel/3D Images set Anisotropic filtering set to 8x and application control not checked.
None of that was related or fixed with KDFW 2.0, it was a wrong setting on your video card panel, and it's an entirely different thing that was you are reporting now, which also it's surely a video card/driver problem, but a different one.
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Umberto
You actually read and quoted from the above thread which is more than I can say that I did. I tried to recount it from memory and was obviously wrong and I apologize for that. I am sorry.
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
An on update on what is happening. KLAX appears to be okay on all flights except long ones from Europe. A second PANC-KLAX in 737NGX, KORD-KLAX in CS 752, KJFK-KLAX in MD-11X, KLAS-KLAX in 737NGX and very short KLAX-KLAX in the 737NGX does not result in any strange objects or missing terminals. KLAX shows no issues when it is the origin airport no matter where the flight is going. The only flight that resulted in strange objects at KLAX was a 12 hour EDDF-KLAX and that was not as bad as previous flights. I am going to try a PMDG 744 EDDF-KLAX flight tonight and see what happens. Maybe the problem only occurs with the MD-11 on extremely long flights of 11-13 hours. I will see tonight.
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
I finished a 12.4 hr EDDF-KLAX in the PMDG 747-400X. No strange objects at KLAX. Nothing floating in the sky. No whatever the yellow objects were. Terminal buildings and jetways were there. So the only problem is the PMDG MD-11X on very lomg flights that land at KLAX. I believe the problem is with the MD-11 or video card. I lean towards the MD-11 because it has created issues accross two computers and three video cards. I think I will download a new installer from PMDG and if the isssue continues after the install I will then install Inspector for the GTX 480 and try different settings. Umberto, what do you think?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
I finished a 12.4 hr EDDF-KLAX in the PMDG 747-400X. No strange objects at KLAX. Nothing floating in the sky. No whatever the yellow objects were. Terminal buildings and jetways were there. So the only problem is the PMDG MD-11X on very lomg flights that land at KLAX. I believe the problem is with the MD-11 or video card. I lean towards the MD-11 because it has created issues accross two computers and three video cards. I think I will download a new installer from PMDG and if the isssue continues after the install I will then install Inspector for the GTX 480 and try different settings. Umberto, what do you think?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
Michael,
What nvidia driver version are you using, if it is 275.33, ditch it. It can cause graphic corruption, and even more pronounced in the MD11.
Change to the 270.61. If you are already using .61, then disregard this post.
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Umberto
I finished a 12.4 hr EDDF-KLAX in the PMDG 747-400X. No strange objects at KLAX. Nothing floating in the sky. No whatever the yellow objects were. Terminal buildings and jetways were there. So the only problem is the PMDG MD-11X on very lomg flights that land at KLAX. I believe the problem is with the MD-11 or video card. I lean towards the MD-11 because it has created issues accross two computers and three video cards. I think I will download a new installer from PMDG and if the isssue continues after the install I will then install Inspector for the GTX 480 and try different settings. Umberto, what do you think?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
Michael,
What nvidia driver version are you using, if it is 275.33, ditch it. It can cause graphic corruption, and even more pronounced in the MD11.
Change to the 270.61. If you are already using .61, then disregard this post.
I changed from 266.58 (January, 2011) to the 270.61 and if anything the corruption is worse. See attached screenshot. Once I had parked the MD-11 at KLAX I pressed Esc and clicked on Continue Flying and the objects disappeared. When I did that in the past the scenery went black and the only thing left on the screen was the 2D panel.
Michael Cubine
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Umberto
I finished a 12.4 hr EDDF-KLAX in the PMDG 747-400X. No strange objects at KLAX. Nothing floating in the sky. No whatever the yellow objects were. Terminal buildings and jetways were there. So the only problem is the PMDG MD-11X on very lomg flights that land at KLAX. I believe the problem is with the MD-11 or video card. I lean towards the MD-11 because it has created issues accross two computers and three video cards. I think I will download a new installer from PMDG and if the isssue continues after the install I will then install Inspector for the GTX 480 and try different settings. Umberto, what do you think?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
I would have thought your panel would have been distorted as well, but not in this case it seems. Have you posted this shot at PMDG ?
Michael,
What nvidia driver version are you using, if it is 275.33, ditch it. It can cause graphic corruption, and even more pronounced in the MD11.
Change to the 270.61. If you are already using .61, then disregard this post.
I changed from 266.58 (January, 2011) to the 270.61 and if anything the corruption is worse. See attached screenshot. Once I had parked the MD-11 at KLAX I pressed Esc and clicked on Continue Flying and the objects disappeared. When I did that in the past the scenery went black and the only thing left on the screen was the 2D panel.
Michael Cubine
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flapsup
Maybe you can answer a question for me which I have posted on several forums but have had no reply. I have installed Nvidia Inspector 1.9.5.5 but I see no way to save the changes that I make. The images of Inspector in the threads I am reading show an Apply changes in the upper right corner of the profile settings page. These are versions 1.9.4.4 and 1.9.3.2. Do you have any ideas on applying the changes?
Thank you
Michael Cubine
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I tried a lot of things to solve this problem - installing driver 270.61, installing NVIDIA inspector and trying different settings, trying various settings in the FSDT Addon Manager. Nothing worked. Uninstalling the MD-11, purchasing an extended download and installing that new installer has soo far solved the problem. Looks like it was not the video card but the MD-11 that was corrupt.
Michael Cubine
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Looks like it was not the video card but the MD-11 that was corrupt.
If *was* a video card problem, but it was *caused* by a problem on the MD-11, maybe it was just leaking video memory. The only thing sure, it *wasn't* the scenery...
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Umberto
No it was not KLAX. The airport was fine because I had no problem when flying the CS 752, PMDG's 737NGX, and 747-400X into KLAX. The problem was only with the PMDG MD-11X on long distance flights.
Thank you
Michael Cubine