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Products Support => Los Angeles support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: mwilk19 on September 17, 2011, 03:38:18 pm

Title: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: mwilk19 on September 17, 2011, 03:38:18 pm
Hello,
        All of the posts that I've seen so far say LAX gives good performance. I must have something going on with my install or my system. On runway 7L, the best I can do with the default Cessna is about 14.5 FPS. I've uninstalled and reinstalled a number of times with the same result. Any help would be appreciated as this is great looking scenery.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: joergalv on September 17, 2011, 03:42:53 pm
Hi fsdreamteam,

you guys did a great job. This scenery is awesome!

However, i do get terrible low framerates (12 fps) in the area of RWY 7L/R between taxiways U and T, while fps in the other parts of the scenery** are >20.
Rolling down the RWY towards east, while crossing taxiway T the plane makes a 'jump' (as if there is a cleft in the RWY) and fps are increasing all of a sudden >20fps.

Might this be a bug or FAROS / RWSL related?

**Tested with default Cessna and haven't checked other RWYS yet. Checked also for duplicate AFCADS. Non detected.
FSX SP2, No Acceleration

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Joerg
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: theshack440 on September 17, 2011, 03:47:19 pm
I have a similar problem (if it's actually a problem).

Everything looks and runs INCREDIBLY except when I look over at TBIT. I will be getting in the 20s and 30s fps but then that comes into view and the frames drop to 10 or below. It only sometimes happens as well. Maybe it is just my machine or TBIT is just very complex and therefore requires more memory?
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: joergalv on September 17, 2011, 03:47:24 pm
... On runway 7L, the best I can do with the default Cessna is about 14.5 FPS. ...

I noticed the same on RWY7L/R, while fps are much better east of taxiway T.

Seems i'm not the only one...

Joerg
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: Silverbird on September 17, 2011, 04:00:47 pm
Hello fsx can be difficult sometimes and you might have to tweak it to squeeze out all the performance  Mike have you checked nickn guide I also listed a few others to be safe make sure you make a backup of your fsx.cfg and even your dll xml file under windows 7 its under C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX also water higher then 2 low will destroy frame rates don't go higher. it also seems fsx likes anything that's around at least 4.0 ghz. the pic above was with sandy bridge I5 at around 4.7 but 4 should be good but I see you good with that at 4.6.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html make sure you check on hidden files folders under folder options.  my bottle neck right now is my video card so I keep settings low till I upgrade to something more powerful hope this helps and don't give up.

http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: mwilk19 on September 17, 2011, 04:04:08 pm
Thanks for the reply,
                             I've done all of those things. Are there static aircraft with this scenery? It seems that when the AI loads it really drops. Moresao than with any other scenery I own.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: virtuali on September 17, 2011, 04:09:50 pm
Does the fps improves if you turn off the Airplane cast shadows on ground option ? (I've merged the two similar topics here)
Title: Re: Performance Problem
Post by: Silverbird on September 17, 2011, 04:11:27 pm
Thanks for the reply,
                             I've done all of those things. Are there static aircraft with this scenery? It seems that when the AI loads it really drops. Moresao than with any other scenery I own.

Not that I have noticed  but that's very odd that you get that performance with a sandy bridge I7 it shouldn't be that low. Mike what do you get in other scenery do you have dfw? what fps do you get there. thats other option I also turn off like Umberto mentioned its worth a try but something is bringing fps down.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: mwilk19 on September 17, 2011, 04:25:17 pm
Umberto,
             The aircraft shadows was exactly the problem. Once I disabled the aircraft shadows, my FPS more than doubled. That was using the PMDG NGX. Shadows are certainly not a show stopper for me. Thanks for your help. Now I can start to enjoy this great scenery.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: Silverbird on September 17, 2011, 04:38:03 pm
Umberto,
             The aircraft shadows was exactly the problem. Once I disabled the aircraft shadows, my FPS more than doubled. That was using the PMDG NGX. Shadows are certainly not a show stopper for me. Thanks for your help. Now I can start to enjoy this great scenery.

That's great news Mike have fun having no shadows is also not a big deal for me.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: virtuali on September 17, 2011, 05:53:20 pm
Don't worry, you will not be forced to run with the Airplane shadows off, that was only a request to confirm a theory which, funnily enough, doesn't have anything to do with airplane shadows...however, thanks to that confirmation, we found the problem and fixed it.

Expect a patch in the next days, so we can also have a look at the flickering lights and some visual issues near the taxiway bridges.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: rsvette12 on September 17, 2011, 06:13:08 pm
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Expect a patch in the next days, so we can also have a look at the flickering lights and some visual issues near the taxiway bridges.

This is great news, thanks so much for this.  :)

Rich
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: mwilk19 on September 17, 2011, 06:59:10 pm
Umberto,
             Great news, great support. Is this something that could carry over to other scenery? I noticed that I got a pretty significant performance gain with shadows off at KDFW.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: Thralni on September 18, 2011, 10:29:58 am
That's awesome! Might also be the reason why my FPS were doubled when I turned off AI.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: joergalv on September 18, 2011, 12:38:05 pm
Just to let you know that i found the root cause for 'my' low fps in the western part of the airport.
I stepped into the "Transparency Antialiasing trap". I found this to be enabled in the video driver settings.
fps now doubled after disabling it. I get at least 23 fps with the deafult cessna with my 3840x1024 resolution (TH2GO).
In most areas, it's running at the limited 30fps.  :)

HAPPY sunday..
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: Silverbird on September 18, 2011, 05:59:27 pm
Just to let you know that i found the root cause for 'my' low fps in the western part of the airport.
I stepped into the "Transparency Antialiasing trap". I found this to be enabled in the video driver settings.
fps now doubled after disabling it. I get at least 23 fps with the deafult cessna with my 3840x1024 resolution (TH2GO).
In most areas, it's running at the limited 30fps.  :)

HAPPY sunday..

Yes! thank you Joerg I totally forgot about that issue it can have a great impact on frame rates so please guys double check your video card settings certain ones can push the sims frame rates very low.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: copilot767 on September 19, 2011, 11:58:58 am
Holding at runway...Turned off Aircraft shadow at ground...my fps raised from 10 to 25-30...
At Kjfk & KDFW about 3-5 increasing..

Will we be informed, when a patch should be ready ?

Chris from Denmark :)
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2011, 12:42:31 pm
Will we be informed, when a patch should be ready ?

It will of course announced on this forum and, as usual, those downloading the the full installer after the patch is released, will not need to patch it.

As I've said in a previous post, the fps drop with shadows fix on is already done, but we are fixing other issues that has been raised, like the taxiway bridges, flickering light poles, missing parking stands, etc.
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: copilot767 on September 19, 2011, 12:58:54 pm
Downloaded and installed KLAX yesterday, for me doesn´t look like the shadow on ground, have been fixed ???
Raised FPS from 10 to 30, when turned off ?? ... Or maybe I misunderstood.. That it has been done, but not yet been released ? :)
Title: Re: Very Low fps on RWY 7L/R west of taxiway T
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2011, 01:37:55 pm
That it has been done, but not yet been released ?

Exactly, I specifically mentioned the other fixes, to explain why the fix has been done, but not released yet. Since the issue is easily resolved by turning the Airplane Shadows off option in the meantime, it doesn't make much sense to release a patch just for that one, only to ask to download another patch a couple of days later.