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Products Support => GSX Support MSFS => Topic started by: hwmertens on October 11, 2024, 04:18:23 pm

Title: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on October 11, 2024, 04:18:23 pm
Hi,
yesterday 10/10 we received the freighter version of the ATR 72-600 from Asobo/Microsoft for the MSFS 2020.
Will this a/c be fully supported by GSX Pro like the pax version is?
Regards
Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: simchanneldeluxe on October 15, 2024, 01:39:15 pm
There's a GSX profile available on flightsim .to by now. But we have to use the belt loader with the ATR Freighter unfortunately :(

FSDT/virtuali should consider developing a low-profile cargo pellet loader. The one we have available right now is too tall to reach the low cargo deck. It breaks the immersion to use a belt loader.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: pks1414 on October 16, 2024, 01:02:05 pm
How do you actually get this to work? I've downloaded both of the versions from flightsim.to but what do I use from the GSX menu to call the cargo?

Thanks

Paul
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: Captain Kevin on October 16, 2024, 09:34:48 pm
Paul, should just be the standard boarding and deboarding.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on October 26, 2024, 01:56:59 pm
On 10/24 we got another update for the Microsoft ATR in MSFS 2020 mainly affecting the freighter 72-600F.

Again, will this variant be supported by GSX Pro like the 72-600 pax is?

Regards
Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: Lorenzo.D on October 29, 2024, 09:24:30 am
I am also interested in the profile of this cargo variant, among other things it seems to me that the hotel mode does not allow pushback
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 05, 2024, 02:21:41 pm
Thanks to the FSDTeam for supporting the ATR 72 freighter! I appreciate that.

There are still some things to optimize
on boarding/loading the low profile cargo loader is approching the a/c from the right side but the cargo door is on left
and the containers are not centered inside the fuselage on loading/de-loading.

Customizing the a/c and saving it to a gsx.cfg brings back a cargo train instead of the cargo loader and on unloading there is a sound output "crew deboarding ..." without showing anyone.

Regards
Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: virtuali on November 09, 2024, 02:39:29 am
You just can't use the normal cargo loader, there's a reason why we used Belt loaders, and it's because we don't have a loader that can go that low. No, using the A320-specific one would be wrong, because it's not made for the type of pallets loaded on main cargo so, until we'll add a better cargo loader, it's best to use Belt loaders as we set them up.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 09, 2024, 06:18:18 pm
Sorry, but in my sim there is a low profile cargo loader comming to load/unload two container. Made a small video which i can send to you. Thought FSDT made this already possible. But it seems i am the only one having that animation.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: pks1414 on November 09, 2024, 06:54:25 pm
I get that one too, problem is the containers are too big. I only got this working once I removed the third part .ini for the ATR-F
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: virtuali on November 11, 2024, 12:06:26 am
Sorry, but in my sim there is a low profile cargo loader comming to load/unload two container

That's because you are not using the default profile in the GSX internal database. Either remove your custom file ( the RESET button in the airplane configuration page ) or set the loader type for the cargo door to be BELT and disable the AUTO checkmark in the same page.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 11, 2024, 01:06:16 pm
That's because you are not using the default profile in the GSX internal database.

GSX Pro is telling different.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 11, 2024, 01:10:42 pm
..., problem is the containers are too big.

Paul,

the two container are not too big they are poor centered in the fuselage.

Regards
Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 20, 2024, 02:02:29 pm
Update to GSX Pro 3.2.7 makes it all worse again.

Instead of having a cargo loader as before, now the belt loader with a baggage(packets) train arrives again although I choose AKE to load in the aircraft profile and a cargo loader at the parking position.

Pls. clarify how to load/unload the ATR 72-600F with (AKE?) Container.

Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: virtuali on November 21, 2024, 05:59:04 pm
Update to GSX Pro 3.2.7 makes it all worse again.

Update 3.2.7 fixed it.

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Instead of having a cargo loader as before

You should not have an A320 cargo loader before.

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Pls. clarify how to load/unload the ATR 72-600F with (AKE?) Container.

You can't use a Cargo loader, because the CCL (A320) is not correct for freighters, and the FMC Commander can't reach the ATR cargo door, so we updated the profile (and if you have a custom profile you should do the same), to use a BELT loader, so you'll see packages instead of luggage because it's a Cargo airplane, and that is the only correct way to load the ATR Freighter, until we'll add a new PROPER loader for these airplanes.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 22, 2024, 12:45:04 pm
Umberto
thank you for clarification.

What I really can't understand is why it has worked before update to 3.2.7.
[link to my video deleted].

Regards
Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: virtuali on November 24, 2024, 12:38:14 am
What I really can't understand is why it has worked before update to 3.2.7

Was your video an indication of a working case ? Because, as I've said my previous reply, having A320 specific loaders using A320 dedicated AKH containers on the ATR is wrong, the proper solution is to have a proper loader loading cargo pallets, but we don't have it so, in the meantime, best to use Belt loader with packages instead of luggage.
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: hwmertens on November 24, 2024, 03:21:01 pm
I didn't realize that this is/was a A320 Cargo Loader with two AKH Containers on it.

So I hope we once will get the right one for loading the ATR 72 Freighter.

Hans
Title: Re: ATR 72-600F
Post by: Rampart on June 23, 2025, 08:39:21 pm
Hi @virtuali
I was wondering if and when there will be the correct loader available for the ATR 72-600F? Is there something in the Pipeline? Would be very nice to not have to use the Belt loader.
cheers
Ramp