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General Category => Unofficial F/A-18 Acceleration Pack board => Topic started by: Afterburn93 on March 31, 2010, 05:46:22 pm
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to know your opinions on the weekly session in regards to the VRS plane in a week. I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but it seems that the session is beginning to peter out. However, with the new plane, depending on it's framerate-eating possibilities may make the session alive and well. I was thinking that for the people who don't have the VRS bug, we could do two sessions at once, with both aircraft respectively. Let me know what you think.
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A/B...
Losing the people for the Saturday session is gonna happen the closer we get to summer. I mean, Paco has his family, I have golf, and Im sure others will want to get outdoors more as the weather gets better. Just a simple fact of life.
When I can play on saturday/sunday evenings, would be more than happy to setup two sessions for different jets. Or whatever you think would work in the multiplayer sessions. With the new SFCarrier mission coming out, I think FSX flying will be better for the times we can get together and fly in the multi's.
Also, think about how we can enable "radio specific" comms using the in-game radio comms instead of using Skype all the time. Im willing to start using the in-game radios to actually have to "push" to a freq. (118.0 - 137.0 mhz, except 121.5 Guard) for CATCC or to get Paddles, than using an open Skype chat for everything.
Would rather have Skype used outside FSX to setup the sessions and iron out the details. At FSX launching, put Skype on a low volume and use the in-game radios for comms in carrier ops.
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Sludge
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Why have two sessions? Unless we exceed the maximum of 15 people my mission can handle, I'm totally fine flying the default FA-18 alongside the new VRS one.
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Why have two sessions? Unless we exceed the maximum of 15 people my mission can handle, I'm totally fine flying the default FA-18 alongside the new VRS one.
Well, if the VRS lags up such a storm that it gets windy, only the brave can fly.
In english: In case the VRS is laggy, have a dedicated session for that and the default.
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A/B...
Losing the people for the Saturday session is gonna happen the closer we get to summer. I mean, Paco has his family, I have golf, and Im sure others will want to get outdoors more as the weather gets better. Just a simple fact of life.
When I can play on saturday/sunday evenings, would be more than happy to setup two sessions for different jets. Or whatever you think would work in the multiplayer sessions. With the new SFCarrier mission coming out, I think FSX flying will be better for the times we can get together and fly in the multi's.
Also, think about how we can enable "radio specific" comms using the in-game radio comms instead of using Skype all the time. Im willing to start using the in-game radios to actually have to "push" to a freq. (118.0 - 137.0 mhz, except 121.5 Guard) for CATCC or to get Paddles, than using an open Skype chat for everything.
Would rather have Skype used outside FSX to setup the sessions and iron out the details. At FSX launching, put Skype on a low volume and use the in-game radios for comms in carrier ops.
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Sludge
Sludge,
Yes, i do realize that we will loose people, I use the term, "peter out" lightly, and "not to jump to conclusions" heavily. It isn't like it matters greatly.
As for the radios, it all depends on the preferences of other players. Thanks for the consideration for the session.
A/B
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A/B...
Losing the people for the Saturday session is gonna happen the closer we get to summer. I mean, Paco has his family, I have golf, and Im sure others will want to get outdoors more as the weather gets better. Just a simple fact of life.
When I can play on saturday/sunday evenings, would be more than happy to setup two sessions for different jets. Or whatever you think would work in the multiplayer sessions. With the new SFCarrier mission coming out, I think FSX flying will be better for the times we can get together and fly in the multi's.
Also, think about how we can enable "radio specific" comms using the in-game radio comms instead of using Skype all the time. Im willing to start using the in-game radios to actually have to "push" to a freq. (118.0 - 137.0 mhz, except 121.5 Guard) for CATCC or to get Paddles, than using an open Skype chat for everything.
Would rather have Skype used outside FSX to setup the sessions and iron out the details. At FSX launching, put Skype on a low volume and use the in-game radios for comms in carrier ops.
Later
Sludge
Sludge,
Yes, i do realize that we will loose people, I use the term, "peter out" lightly, and "not to jump to conclusions" heavily. It isn't like it matters greatly.
As for the radios, it all depends on the preferences of other players. Thanks for the consideration for the session.
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I like the radio idea, but the comm quality is poor.
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A/B...
No worries, whoever can show up will... and will just make the best of the sessions. Although, keeping that in mind, I will try to make some evenings on the weekend. I know I wont be able to fly with Simon and JR, which will suck cause they are alot of fun, but at least would be able to get some community multiplayer flight time in. And Im still with you on two sessions if the SuperBug is a frame rate killer, as Duncan pointed out.
Raz...
Yeah, I know the in-game comms can suck, but sometimes they are OK. Or if someone wants to try TeamSpeak w/different channels (ie, F7 is CATCC, F8 is Paddles), that would work too! Would just like to get a session thats a little more hardcore for those of us that want to try it. Again, I know that not everyone wants to, and thats no big deal, but I do want to try a session like that... and see how we do using different "pushes" for different phases of carrier ops. Im not limiting the discussion to only in-game comms, I was bringing it up simply to think about using something other than the open skype channel we use now that gets crowded in a hurry. Gets hard to talk over people and I would like separate comms, say for the tanker freq, CATCC, AirBoss (on carrier deck), Paddles, and an open "push" for those who are in the session but just want to mess around.
Just putting that out there, since we have talked about it, but nothing has come to pass as of yet...
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Sludge
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Well, I still have no idea how having two sessions will help in regards to having the VRS FA-18 and frame rates, but I do think having two sessions would help in a different way. For example, Sludge may want to try being more professional and accurate to real world carrier ops in one session, while Jivko and I could go about neutrino'ing people in another.
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Well, the two session would be split up people who have the SuperBug and those who do not, especially if the SuperBug is a frame rate HOG, itll be just like the Sludge FX gets when there are 4+ players in one session. Choppy and very unplayable.
The comms/realism session might be a moot point, as I will probly be at less SaturDAY sessions from here on out. I was only giving ideas that could be done, but if nobody else is up for it, no big deal.
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Sludge
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I'd probably join the session that was less procedural. What I mean is, I'd like to build up some skills before I fly with the professionals (you know who are!).
As for Sludge's idea of comms, we could use a Teamspeak server with multiple chat rooms. There could be one room for each session, and then a mutual one where pilots from both sessions can talk to each other. This way, there'd be fewer people talking simultaneously and ATC transmissions could be broadcast to people directly concerned. Another advantage of Teamspeak is its feature of holding down an assigned key to talk. This could mean that background noise could be better filtered, and we'd only hear what was broadcast while the key was depressed.
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Mada...
Didnt know bout the "push to talk" style of TeamSpeak. That would work very well, along with different "rooms" for different sessions. Im gonna download and install TeamSpeak tonite after work and see if that would be a better solution.
Thanks for the info. TeamSpeak 3, right?
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Sludge
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Mada...
Didnt know bout the "push to talk" style of TeamSpeak. That would work very well, along with different "rooms" for different sessions. Im gonna download and install TeamSpeak tonite after work and see if that would be a better solution.
Thanks for the info. TeamSpeak 3, right?
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Sludge
Yes, teamspeak 3. I have moderate knowledge about teamspeak, so I'm going to explore around and see if I find find a way to switch to channel X with a key press.
EDIT: Yes, its possible, and rather easy. Should I post a tutorial?
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Yeah, fire away with the tutorial. Would definately go with that, if it works better. How do you like the "push to talk" part of it?
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Sludge
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Yeah, fire away with the tutorial. Would definately go with that, if it works better. How do you like the "push to talk" part of it?
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Sludge
Its great for flying. The PTT feature is just like the red button on the back of the yoke on the C172. You cant just be talking to your copilot and then go TOWER 322 and expect him to hear.
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I like the radio idea, but I also like the Madadog's idea, since it is reasonable in that the only difference is that one would have to simply push to talk. The channel idea is nice, but I just think that it may be a bit much when flying the pattern for pilots of all desire to fly professionally, having to switch through different channels every time they want to talk. But hey, I'm all for it. I am trying to be as professional as possible, but I would still like it to be more player friendly.
As for the VRS F-18, I want people to stop worrying about the framerates. REGARDLESS of how bad it actually is, it is confirmed that it will be NOWHERE NEAR as bad as Aerosoft's Falcon. I've heard from Simon, people at VRS, and Youtube. I feel very confident about it 8)
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I definitely had fun the last time I flew with you guys during the saturday MP session, but unfortunately the same is true for me, saturdays are usually pretty busy and with the weather being nice it makes it even harder to be at the computer. I look forward to flying with you guys more, let me know if you are flying other times during the week or on Sunday.
I also like the teamspeak idea with separate channels. I fly with USNVA http://www.usnva.org/index.html sometimes, and we use teamspeak with separate channels. When I fly with them in FSX I have the PTT button setup on my throttle which works nicely. To switch channels I have to select the new channel in the teamspeak GUI window but there might be a shortcut/key for it, I just haven't found it.
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A/B...
Well, one way we can do it is to give it a try and if it fails, it fails. We can see who liked having separate channels and who didnt and just go from there. Leave up to the players. And Im starting to think the TeamSpeak PTT is a good idea no matter what we end up with. As far as the SuperBug, Im just planning in case its a killer inside of a multi session, nothing more. If it works OK, we can scrap all the ideas we talked about for multiple sessions and fly all day. As I said, Im just throwing ideas out there to be prepared, thats all.
CAPT H...
Glad to hear from ya. Yeah, will check out that site when I get home. Ive heard that TeamSpeak can be "hot key'd" so you can use FUNC keys to switch channels in-game? Dont have any real knowledge of it, but will find out more when I get home.
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Sludge
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I thought a video would be easier.
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Well, the two session would be split up people who have the SuperBug and those who do not, especially if the SuperBug is a frame rate HOG, itll be just like the Sludge FX gets when there are 4+ players in one session. Choppy and very unplayable.
Well, I still don't get why we should segregate VRS Superbug users from default FA-18 users. The VRS Superbug will most likely just be substituted as the default FA-18 for people who don't have it, so I don't see a problem. Unless you're saying you should just keep the maximum people in a session to four if using either the VRS plane or the Sludge Effects Hornet.
Care to enlighten me?
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Yeah... the problem will be for the VRS users. IF the VRS SuperBug is a F/R HOG, default Hornet users wont notice a thing. However, those of us that are using the VRS will get LAG CITY, and I for one dont wanna fly in a slideshow session.
Enlightened?
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Sludge
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Raz...
Much thanks for the video. Im installing now and will get back to you by Saturday w/some ideas about the weekend flight.
Thanks again.
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Sludge
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Guys,
I use TS a lot for both Falcon and Arma, one minor problem. You need a dedicated server. It is good since there is a PTT feature which is lacking in skype. We could use the FSX comms, just designate freqs for whatever. As for this Saturday, we'll see...it's really nice and as Sludge said, I got a little boy who needs to be outside with his dad. I fixed the grill last weekend and cleaned out the garage today. Spring cleaning is in full swing. I might be up, might not.
Paco
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All,
BTW, I just ordered the new scenery by FTX, Pacific Northwest (fullterrain.com). Anybody got it? Hopefully it's all it's supposed to be.
Paco
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So you're saying 4 VRS planes per session?
All,
BTW, I just ordered the new scenery by FTX, Pacific Northwest (fullterrain.com). Anybody got it? Hopefully it's all it's supposed to be.
Paco
No comment. If I did, it would turn into a ENORMOUS rant, probably inappropriate for a public forum.
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A/B...
Well, one way we can do it is to give it a try and if it fails, it fails. We can see who liked having separate channels and who didnt and just go from there. Leave up to the players. And Im starting to think the TeamSpeak PTT is a good idea no matter what we end up with. As far as the SuperBug, Im just planning in case its a killer inside of a multi session, nothing more. If it works OK, we can scrap all the ideas we talked about for multiple sessions and fly all day. As I said, Im just throwing ideas out there to be prepared, thats all.
CAPT H...
Glad to hear from ya. Yeah, will check out that site when I get home. Ive heard that TeamSpeak can be "hot key'd" so you can use FUNC keys to switch channels in-game? Dont have any real knowledge of it, but will find out more when I get home.
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Sludge
When I used TS for Falcon, we had keybinds that allowed us to switch channels without leaving the game. Works really cool. We'd have different freqs for different strike packages and we'd switch from freq to freq as the tactical situation dictated. You're talking fairly highend for a bunch of gamers. I played on multiviper, stayed away from the formal squadrons....they got super anal.
Paco
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No comment. If I did, it would turn into a ENORMOUS rant, probably inappropriate for a public forum.
I could see that happening. Even Gordon Ramsey would be saying "Mind your language"!
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Yeah, Orion's been in Hells Kitchen for the past couple of weeks waiting to get his rig back from the shop. ;D