FSDreamTeam forum

Products Support => GSX Support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 01:31:36 pm

Title: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 01:31:36 pm
P3D v5.3 HF2 running Couatl v4.0 (build 4642)

At FSDT KORDv2 when positioned at several gates selecting the GSX Menu displays the "this parking is isolated" message. No facilities are available. Gates tested were C2, C31 and C3. All three had different parking position values. See attached document for details. Gate C2 info is attached.

Switching to FlightBeam KSFO and positioning at D53 and D55 shows the menu options. No problems. Again, gate details attached for D55.

I am also attaching the log as couatl.txt for info.

I appreciate I'm not on the latest version but if you can get the menu to display at this KORD gate using my supplied gate data I will update. This problem may be data in the ini file or in the program itself. Finding out which is key.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: FOD on September 06, 2022, 01:45:41 pm
Ray
First option - delete the KORD ini file in the app data virtuali folder. Restart and let the scenery config run again - you should now have all the gates. Worked for me but there are other options on the forum if necessary.
Cheers
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 01:52:12 pm
FOD, I will try that but first I wanted to post my results at all my other FSDT / Flightbeam airports.

No problems at any which include PHNL, KDFW, KIAH, KJFK, KLAS, KLAX, KSDF, LSGG and LSZH.

This leads me to believe the problem lies with the gate info in the KORD ini file I'm using.

Back shortly after renaming the KORD ini and seeing what happens.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 02:03:14 pm
I renamed the KORD ini in appdata\roaming\virtuali\GSX and restarted P3D. Looking at the GSX Custom aircraft positions I'm definitely picking up the default AFCAD - KORD_ADEX_FSDT.bgl.

Selecting the GSX menu still causes "parking is isolated" message to appear. Bizarre. Log attached.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 02:45:58 pm
I opened KORD_ADEX_FSDT.bgl with ADE and ran the Find Faults feature. It identified 4 Altitude problems but everything else was fine. I'm attaching it so Umberto or anyone else can test it and see if they get similar results to me.

I assume I'm running the latest version of the airport. Addon Manager doesn't show any version numbers.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 03:10:17 pm
I compared my custom ini for KORD with the default generated by GSX and stored in

AddonManager\FSDreamteam\KORDV2\scenery.

There is only one difference suggesting I am using the supplied KORD ini and not one from another source. There is an extra entry in the default named usercustomized=1 in each gate section.

Other than that they are identical. Hope you can work out what the problem is Umberto.  :)
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 03:13:36 pm
Looking at the exe installer I downloaded it's named kordv2_p3dv4_setup.exe dated 01./12/2019 version 1.2.0.0

Is that the latest version?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: srcooke on September 06, 2022, 04:48:45 pm
Looking at the exe installer I downloaded it's named kordv2_p3dv4_setup.exe dated 01./12/2019 version 1.2.0.0

Is that the latest version?

I totally reinstalled my FSDT addons this morning Ray.

kordv2_p3dv4_setup.exe is 1.5.1.0

Although as I posted previously I have not had an issue with isolated parking at KORD. This only occurs at LSGG & KMEM even with the clean install, the posted fix of 'parkingsystem =' corrects the problem.

Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 06, 2022, 04:52:47 pm
Please clarify, are you saying if you use the stock GSX .INI that comes with KORD, it all works, but if you use your custom one, it shows some parking as Isolated ?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 05:01:49 pm
Hi Stephen. Many thanks for that. I’m clearly running an older version. I shall download 1.5 tomorrow and install after uninstalling the existing one. If that solves the isolated parking problem at KORD that could be it for me. I haven’t encountered isolated parking issues at other airports but haven’t checked all..

I don’t have KMEM but if you give me a gate number at LSGG I’ll try that. What version of Couatl are you running? Later than mine I guess.

Umberto, just read your question. No, the problem still exists even with the default GSX one. But that is the same as my custom one so even though I have a “custom” one it’s one and the same.

I suspect I’m having this problem at KORD as I’m not running the latest version. See above.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 06, 2022, 05:09:15 pm
I suspect I’m having this problem at KORD as I’m not running the latest version. See above.

Regardless how old your installer was, running the Live Update should always get you the latest version.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 05:44:09 pm

Regardless how old your installer was, running the Live Update should always get you the latest version.

I appreciate that but I hope you can understand my concerns updating GSX with others still reporting issues when I have none bar KORD. Being the cautious type I’ll install KORD and report back tomorrow. Thanks Umberto in what must be a pretty dreadful time for you.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 06, 2022, 07:28:36 pm
Umberto, I last chose to update around 3-4 weeks ago. If you’re saying doing that updates all installed airports then that suggests my KORD is up to date.

So I doubt installing from the 1.5 download is going to change anything. I supplied the logs earlier today. Did those show where the problem lies at KORD? If they didn’t what is the point of the log?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 07, 2022, 11:34:22 am
I bit the bullet and ran Live Update this morning. Located to KORD and I'm pleased to report the "isolated parking" issue is resolved. Checking a few other FSDT airports was fine.

However, I see others have reported problems at FB's KDEN and I have that too. Just one parking position available. I have reported this on the KDEN topic. Log attached.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 07, 2022, 09:57:45 pm
We found the problem, and it's fixed with the current Live Update.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 07, 2022, 10:33:31 pm
We found the problem, and it's fixed with the current Live Update.
Umberto, then what about a fix for FSX and P3Dv5 regarding on the GSX "Customize Airport Positions"? Invoked such, the Bird spins at 360 degrees and jetway's bridge drops down.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 07, 2022, 11:19:08 pm
Umberto, then what about a fix for FSX and P3Dv5 regarding on the GSX "Customize Airport Positions"? Invoked such, the Bird spins at 360 degrees and jetway's bridge drops down.

In order to work on a fix, it must be replicated first, and this one I couldn't yet. Reproduction steps might be useful, like which airport is used, which airplane is used.

I tried just now with at Flightbeam KDEN and FSDT KORD, using the default A321 imported from FSX, the editor works fine.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 08, 2022, 03:55:26 am
Umberto, then what about a fix for FSX and P3Dv5 regarding on the GSX "Customize Airport Positions"? Invoked such, the Bird spins at 360 degrees and jetway's bridge drops down.

In order to work on a fix, it must be replicated first, and this one I couldn't yet. Reproduction steps might be useful, like which airport is used, which airplane is used.

I tried just now with at Flightbeam KDEN and FSDT KORD, using the default A321 imported from FSX, the editor works fine.
Umberto, I did a test with KDEN Gate A28 with Airbus A321 default in FSX and KORD Gate B18 with iFly 737 in P3Dv5. Both sims appear the plane spinning, I can't edit. LOGs here and one picture from P3Dv5 the FSX is the same.
Every day I am doing several times update until I see if it is fixed but not successful. The P3Dv4 appears to be OK.
What do you recommend me to do next as a try?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 08, 2022, 06:07:54 pm
I ran Live Update again and FSX still spinning the plane. Reported new LOG and picture to see where is positioned the plane after spined.
Any other try with FSDT KDEN Gate A28 with FSX to get it fixed?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 09, 2022, 09:17:04 pm
Every day after GSX updates, still the same problem and no changes at all. New day, new dancing plane spinning round 360 degrees. I can't edit with GSX yet.
How to fix it?
LOG and picture reporting here.
HELP!
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: yurirodin on September 10, 2022, 12:49:18 am
I use P3Dv5.3 and if I have Enable Controller(s) box checked in settings it spins the plane in GSX editor mode. I'm not sure where this setting is in FSX, but in P3D it's in Settings - Other controls in the Controllers section at the bottom. Also, to test it you can unplug all your USB controllers and go into GSX editor mode and see if it still spins the plane. Good luck!
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 10, 2022, 02:58:48 am
I use P3Dv5.3 and if I have Enable Controller(s) box checked in settings it spins the plane in GSX editor mode. I'm not sure where this setting is in FSX, but in P3D it's in Settings - Other controls in the Controllers section at the bottom. Also, to test it you can unplug all your USB controllers and go into GSX editor mode and see if it still spins the plane. Good luck!
Nope..... disabling Controllers we cannot do panning views.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: srcooke on September 10, 2022, 09:04:58 am

Nope..... disabling Controllers we cannot do panning views.

If you disable the controllers then of course no functions will be available.

Disable ANY axis assigned to SLEW, this will leave hat and button functions available.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 10, 2022, 11:36:03 am

Nope..... disabling Controllers we cannot do panning views.

If you disable the controllers then of course no functions will be available.

Disable ANY axis assigned to SLEW, this will leave hat and button functions available.
No axis assigned to SLEW made no difference, the plane still spinning. I didn't have such issues with GSX before August 18th and never had problems with. The problem started with Live Update since then. I was able to replace some files days ago to fix but now it doesn't work due to recent several Live Update. GSX needs to be fixed and sim settings had nothing to do with. Also found the P3Dv4 and P3Dv5 has issues too. All sims need to change SLEW settings? That's not giving me solutions. It has to be the GSX new files trying to work with MSFS as well. GSX and GSX2 should be as they were before. GSX Pro for MSFS should be a different package stored in somewhere else.
Any other ideas?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 11, 2022, 06:03:50 pm
Today I ran Live Update and FSX still exactly the same problem with GSX editing. No changes at all.
When will be fixed since August 18th maybe another 3 months.
LOG reporting
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: Captain Kevin on September 14, 2022, 01:02:00 pm
Just to confirm you deleted all slew assignments for ALL of your controllers?
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 14, 2022, 01:32:52 pm
it doesn't work due to recent several Live Update. GSX needs to be fixed and sim settings had nothing to do with. Also found the P3Dv4 and P3Dv5 has issues too. All sims need to change SLEW settings?

Let's see all past threads from months or even *years* before the last update, where this very well known issue has been discussed:

January 2021
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,24757.msg163839.html#msg163839

March 2021
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,25014.msg165198.html#msg165198

Feb. 2020
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,23074.msg154963.html#msg154963

Nov. 2018
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,19676.0.html

Apr. 2020
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,23440.msg156727.html#msg156727

Oct. 2018
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,19498.msg135086.html#msg135086

Mar. 2019
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,20582.msg140734.html#msg140734

Apr. 2020
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,23492.msg156901.html#msg156901

Sep. 2019
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,21875.msg148661.html#msg148661

Apr. 2019
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,20732.msg141601.html#msg141601

Jan. 2019
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,20185.0.html

Oct. 2019
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,22195.msg150403.html#msg150403

Oct. 2012 !!
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,7396.0.html

Feb. 2017
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,15249.0.html

Nov. 2016
https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,14517.msg106625.html#msg106625
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 14, 2022, 07:20:31 pm
Just to confirm you deleted all slew assignments for ALL of your controllers?
Hello Dear Captain Kevin, long time no see and yes, I did a backup first and then deleted all SLEW assignments from FSX only for now. As you know, I do have a collection of sims.
FSX stopped with spinning planes after invoked GSX Editor, but it still issues with Jetway's Bridge and also the turning to left or right orientation it freezes. I can't complete the editing.
Based on this experience I returned the SLEW assignments back as I had before.
The removing of SLEW is not the correct procedure to fix GSX Editor. It has to be something with GSX Editor program not doing as it was supposed to do. Before August the Live Update worked as a gem. Later with recent updates simply the GSX Editor became bugged. I hope GSX Editor will work as it was supposed to like before August.
It is clear the addition of GSX Pro for MSFS sharing with GSX and GSX L2 folders created such mess.
Nice to meet you again my friend.
Patricio Valdes
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 15, 2022, 07:10:35 pm
The removing of SLEW is not the correct procedure to fix GSX Editor.

As my previous post indicates, the removing of SLEW has always be the correct procedure to fix GSX Editor since as early as 2012.
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: trisho0 on September 15, 2022, 07:29:05 pm
The removing of SLEW is not the correct procedure to fix GSX Editor.

As my previous post indicates, the removing of SLEW has always be the correct procedure to fix GSX Editor since as early as 2012.
Dear Umberto, I know that removing SLEW Axis as instructed it stops spinning the Bird after invoked GSX Editor. But it still issues with the Editor, and you can see here the Bridge dropped down. Also, turning the bridge or the jetway itself using the NUM pad from keyboard the item stays freezing trying to do the turn, but it shakes instead of.
Before these issues didn't happen before August updates. Do I need to change something?
Tried again editing the bridge and the jetway position; it tries to turn but it stays shaking itself only staying on the same position, not changing position at all.
LOG file posted...
Title: Re: GSX okay at Flightbeam KSFO but not at FSDT KORDV2
Post by: virtuali on September 16, 2022, 11:50:16 am
Dear Umberto, I know that removing SLEW Axis as instructed it stops spinning the Bird after invoked GSX Editor.

That's exactly what I said it would happened...


Quote
But it still issues with the Editor, and you can see here the Bridge dropped down. Also, turning the bridge or the jetway itself using the NUM pad from keyboard the item stays freezing trying to do the turn, but it shakes instead of. Before these issues didn't happen before August updates. Do I need to change something?

Nowhere we said the editor in FSX or P3D is 100% bug-free now, I was ONLY replying to the "airplane spinning" issue, the remaining problems will be surely looked after, one by one.